Hey Ken, Great to run across your video. will make sure to check out more. I'm currently building that large one. I'm adding lighting and lighted engines with engine effects. Thank you for your video.
Can't wait to see what you do with the bigger clipper, especially the interior. You may want to use your own clear material for the side windows also, so you can see the inside better there too. ( you probably we're already thinking that.)
Same here! I'm excited to see what direction Ken takes this project. I'm also going to put mine on ice for a while until some aftermarket kits etc. become available. For interior glass material, I was initially planning to use some thin, clear poly material I have. But the more I think about it, at this scale, it'll show some distortions through the windows. So I'm actually considering doing some experimentation using thin (very thin!) tempered glass used for cell phone and tablet screen protectors. If I can figure out a way to somewhat accurately cut panes out without shattering them, they would look absolutely fantastic and distortion free.
Nice coverage Ken! I am still holding out for a film scale version..... a couple of thoughts. I can see Paragrafix providing an after market ceiling part(s). Like, duh! Mobius? What a ridiculous amount of hand work is required to open all those light holes up. Also, in prepainting the inlets, and outlet holes, black, then white and grey on the outside. How to mask the holes, to keep the blackened interior, and maintain crisp definition lines. I ran into this issue on a couple of spots, with the Mobius Pod. Great job! 👍
Fantastic video bud!! TY! I feel like they missed out A LOT on the detail on the big kit.. seems too toy like.. Imagine if a Japanese company did these.
Great overview! I just got mine delivered this week but haven't opened yet. I'm looking forward to spending some quality time on the lighting and detailing. So glad to see the landing and beacon lights are accounted for; it will help to highlight the scale of the ship. I agree, looking forward to the aftermarket details. I've been waiting for this kit for 50-years :-) Cheers!
Definitely gong to get both of these! But some of the raised details on the 1/72 seem a bit exaggerated. Almost want to take those down a bit... or sand them off completely and replace with extremely thin styrene sheet. Just the square shapes on the top of the wings and some of the shapes around the passenger widows on the main fuselage. Thanks for the review!
Looks unbelievably crude to me. Panel lines that you could roll a golf ball into if they were enlarged to a full-sized vehicle, raised panels that would protrude 6 inches into the hypersonic airstream on reentry. The whole point of making models larger is to allow finer depiction of details, and this seems to go in exactly the opposite direction. I had this on my birthday wish list but I'm glad you posted the video because now I can replace it with something else.
For a kit bash, cut off the pointy ends. Glue three rocket engine nozzles and a raked fin-rudder to the butt end, and stick a DC-8 nose on the front end! Voìia! A Shuttle!
Hi Ken, thorough and informative review. Will the 1/350 scale go with possibly a space station kit? Can't wait to see what you will do with both these kits. Take care, Al
I am working with a 3D designer who made the Clavius files, he is working on the Space Station now. This is a little large for it, I may look into a larger printer to accommodate it.
The obvious scale comparison would be the SS 5, I don't recall seeing the Enterprise in 2001. LOL The book says seating for 20 but the model has 36? so what else is wrong in the book. My original Aurora 1:144 scale (1970's) had all the Pan Am decals, it came with all the engines bay you could put together, but once glued up you don't see it again.
It would be nice if Moebius would re-pop the Aries at 1/72nd scale so it could be displayed next to the Orion..... just MHO, but I know I'm not alone in this wish, because for me at least, the Aries in 1/48th is just too big.
Heh. A 1/72 scale U.S.S. Enterprise-refit would be a 13.89 foot long model. The actual filming miniature used in the original Star Trek films was only 8.33 feet long. So yeah, a little unwieldy. :) Bummer the decals don't have the Pan Am livery like in the movie.
Moebius hasn’t included Panam decals on any of the releases, it’s a separate license from 2001 and would increase the kit cost. There are aftermarket options for these including the 1/72. Check out this link: hdamodelworx.com/SPACE-CLIPPER-DECAL-SET-with-Hull-Markings-Interior-and-kit-replacements-for-the-large-scale-Moebius-Models-172-Scale-Plastic-Model-kit_p_1120.html
There are 3D files from Max Gruter on CGTrader made for the Aries. He had started working on ones for the Orion as well so I’m sure he’ll release them.
@@kenspriggs5687 Is there a good third party place to have files printed? A printer of my own would be a bit costly now. It is in my thoughts. Or maybe someone selling sets. Look forward to Uncle Lou doing his mask and build as well as yours. I have a 1/6 Lost is Space B9. The 1/350 Discovery has been quite tedious a build.
@@brentdrafts2290 Max also offers his figures printed by Shapeways. Here is a link for the Aries ones. www.shapeways.com/product/8PDTQ79NZ/1-48-aries-1b-crew-passenger-set?optionId=259997010&li=marketplace
You mention the "accurate look of the ship". The movie only shows the ship in just a few short shots. I've been looking for photos of the actual model used in the movie but have only come across two. Can anyone point me to some online sources of such photos? I'm doing a large scale (3' long) CAD design of the ship and would really like it to be based on the "real" ship . Each plastic model, even those by the same manufacturer, have very different details.
The best ones I’ve seen are from the book I viewed in my video, several nice images of the model from the film. www.cgpublishing.com/prime/bookpages/9781926837192.html
The original kit bought at the stores back in the 70's had an engine compartment. That was very cool.
HDA already has decals for this kit. No panel decals. Has cockpit and cabin decals as well.
Excellent review Ken. Really enjoyed looking at the scale comparisons.
Hey Ken, Great to run across your video. will make sure to check out more. I'm currently building that large one. I'm adding lighting and lighted engines with engine effects. Thank you for your video.
Can't wait to see what you do with these Ken.
Hey Ken, Looking forward to seeing you buildup the 1/72.
I'm dreaming of this 1/72 scale kit now!! 199.00 Canadian or about 3 tanks of gas!
Can't wait to see what you do with the bigger clipper, especially the interior. You may want to use your own clear material for the side windows also, so you can see the inside better there too. ( you probably we're already thinking that.)
Same here! I'm excited to see what direction Ken takes this project. I'm also going to put mine on ice for a while until some aftermarket kits etc. become available. For interior glass material, I was initially planning to use some thin, clear poly material I have. But the more I think about it, at this scale, it'll show some distortions through the windows. So I'm actually considering doing some experimentation using thin (very thin!) tempered glass used for cell phone and tablet screen protectors. If I can figure out a way to somewhat accurately cut panes out without shattering them, they would look absolutely fantastic and distortion free.
Nice to see this scale esp if you were one of those who pre-ordered the 42 inch CC resin version and lost their money
I don't know about his financial affairs, but Scott suffered a stroke in the middle of the Space Clipper project.
Nice coverage Ken! I am still holding out for a film scale version..... a couple of thoughts. I can see Paragrafix providing an after market ceiling part(s). Like, duh! Mobius? What a ridiculous amount of hand work is required to open all those light holes up.
Also, in prepainting the inlets, and outlet holes, black, then white and grey on the outside. How to mask the holes, to keep the blackened interior, and maintain crisp definition lines. I ran into this issue on a couple of spots, with the Mobius Pod. Great job! 👍
excwllwnt review of this kit.......great job Ken
Fantastic video bud!! TY! I feel like they missed out A LOT on the detail on the big kit.. seems too toy like.. Imagine if a Japanese company did these.
Great overview! I just got mine delivered this week but haven't opened yet. I'm looking forward to spending some quality time on the lighting and detailing. So glad to see the landing and beacon lights are accounted for; it will help to highlight the scale of the ship. I agree, looking forward to the aftermarket details. I've been waiting for this kit for 50-years :-) Cheers!
Definitely gong to get both of these! But some of the raised details on the 1/72 seem a bit exaggerated. Almost want to take those down a bit... or sand them off completely and replace with extremely thin styrene sheet. Just the square shapes on the top of the wings and some of the shapes around the passenger widows on the main fuselage. Thanks for the review!
The details seem more in scale than the 1/160 version. You can also sand them down a bit if needed.
Looks unbelievably crude to me. Panel lines that you could roll a golf ball into if they were enlarged to a full-sized vehicle, raised panels that would protrude 6 inches into the hypersonic airstream on reentry. The whole point of making models larger is to allow finer depiction of details, and this seems to go in exactly the opposite direction. I had this on my birthday wish list but I'm glad you posted the video because now I can replace it with something else.
Nice Review of the Space Clipper! Looks like the middle seam is going to have to be puttied to get rid of it- not fun!
For a kit bash, cut off the pointy ends. Glue three rocket engine nozzles and a raked fin-rudder to the butt end, and stick a DC-8 nose on the front end! Voìia! A Shuttle!
Hi Ken, thorough and informative review. Will the 1/350 scale go with possibly a space station kit? Can't wait to see what you will do with both these kits. Take care, Al
I am working with a 3D designer who made the Clavius files, he is working on the Space Station now. This is a little large for it, I may look into a larger printer to accommodate it.
@@kenspriggs5687 That's fantastic, Ken. It's going to be a grail build. You're definitely raising the bar with this one. Best wishes!!
The 1/350 one will be part of the fleet with the 1/350 1701 “Enterprise”
The 1/72 one will pose majestically near the 1/72 STS “Enterprise”
Damn... that thing is huge.
Just got the kit.
What type of white paint is best to use?
Gloss, flat, pearl?
It would be nice if a crew and passengers were included.
The obvious scale comparison would be the SS 5, I don't recall seeing the Enterprise in 2001. LOL
The book says seating for 20 but the model has 36? so what else is wrong in the book.
My original Aurora 1:144 scale (1970's) had all the Pan Am decals, it came with all the engines bay you could put together, but once glued up you don't see it again.
It would be nice if Moebius would re-pop the Aries at 1/72nd scale so it could be displayed next to the Orion..... just MHO, but I know I'm not alone in this wish, because for me at least, the Aries in 1/48th is just too big.
There is someone bringing out a 3D print ceiling opened for lighting...
Hopefully Paragrafix comes out with some photoetch for this kit which would make this kit pop on the exterior of the ship.
I believe they will.
I wonder if sanding and polishing the clear cabin windows flat might offset distortion issues?
I am using the clear plastic bakery boxes.
Airfix did a great version
Be honest Ken, if they made a 1/72 Enterprise, you'd buy it. I know I would...😎👍
Its disappointing they are not supplying retailers outside the USA you cant buy these anywhere but the USA .
Where's the PanAm stickers??
I am having trouble with the interior. The windows only line up level on one side!
I tested mine and they fit correctly for my. Try reversing them as they are reversed parts. The slanted edge goes towards the front.
1/160th ? I can hang it over My N Scale Layout !!! Could Decal it for My Denver &Rio Grande Railroad .
Heh. A 1/72 scale U.S.S. Enterprise-refit would be a 13.89 foot long model. The actual filming miniature used in the original Star Trek films was only 8.33 feet long. So yeah, a little unwieldy. :)
Bummer the decals don't have the Pan Am livery like in the movie.
Pan Am still exists, if in name only, and they want ridiculous coin to license the logos.
mine came yesterday, bummed there are no Pan Am decals
Moebius hasn’t included Panam decals on any of the releases, it’s a separate license from 2001 and would increase the kit cost. There are aftermarket options for these including the 1/72. Check out this link:
hdamodelworx.com/SPACE-CLIPPER-DECAL-SET-with-Hull-Markings-Interior-and-kit-replacements-for-the-large-scale-Moebius-Models-172-Scale-Plastic-Model-kit_p_1120.html
Put my order in with Cultman today. Curious if and etch or 3d print might come, walking stewardess and or sleeping Floyd..lol
There are 3D files from Max Gruter on CGTrader made for the Aries. He had started working on ones for the Orion as well so I’m sure he’ll release them.
@@kenspriggs5687 Is there a good third party place to have files printed? A printer of my own would be a bit costly now. It is in my thoughts. Or maybe someone selling sets. Look forward to Uncle Lou doing his mask and build as well as yours. I have a 1/6 Lost is Space B9. The 1/350 Discovery has been quite tedious a build.
@@brentdrafts2290 Max also offers his figures printed by Shapeways. Here is a link for the Aries ones. www.shapeways.com/product/8PDTQ79NZ/1-48-aries-1b-crew-passenger-set?optionId=259997010&li=marketplace
You mention the "accurate look of the ship". The movie only shows the ship in just a few short shots. I've been looking for photos of the actual model used in the movie but have only come across two. Can anyone point me to some online sources of such photos? I'm doing a large scale (3' long) CAD design of the ship and would really like it to be based on the "real" ship . Each plastic model, even those by the same manufacturer, have very different details.
The best ones I’ve seen are from the book I viewed in my video, several nice images of the model from the film.
www.cgpublishing.com/prime/bookpages/9781926837192.html
1/72 is inch is equal to 6ft