The door opening is symbolizing mens problems venting into the public. Men are always deemed to be the tough ones who internalize problems. The door opening is the one place they can talk about actual personal problems being aired to the world. Clay is just a wonderful view of someone forced into a situation in life and refusing to say he needs to back away. To say and admit he needs to stop. The bitterness of your life slowly overtakes you overtime and soon its all you know, how to do, how to give and so on. Just bitter.
Not only is it Clay viewing the town as soft: The reason he got so upset that Rev. Puddy, Officer Papermouth and Dr. Potterswheel didn't hit him is because it reminded him of how his father had told him that he wasn't even worth hitting. In Clay's warped mind, being dealt physical punishment means that he's cared about.
Hmmm I'm not too sure about that last part. I thought that as well while recording, but then I thought why would he care if they care about him in a loving way.
@@CeeAyeJay because scars are far rooted than a mere beginning. The mere idea of having that reoccur can bring back a wrapped reality. Logically, yes, he wouldn't care one bit if these people didn't actually admited it, but since we recognize and adapt via patterns, seeing it again can bring back memories. Just how saying a word might affect or harm someone. You even said it yourself on your previous video CeeJay! I hope I wasnt rude, you had the good ideas and chose not to say them for safety and precaution. It's still valid thinking nonetheless
@@CeeAyeJaybecause he's a spoiled child and needs to be the center of attention just rewatch his childhood and how his mom spoiled him and never told him no and how his dad told him he wasn't worth it and he began to associate being hit with being loved it didn't change when he grew up just his situation changes and he still needs to feel like he's the most important person in town and when they refused to hit him it reminded him of his dad telling him that he wasn't worth it and hurt his ego. I have dyslexia and it's difficult to get my point across when I can't physically tell someone what I mean so I hope this makes sense to you
The bartender is voiced by the same VA as Orel which I feel adds a little touch of irony where Clay can vent his problems there but never talk to Orel about things
Yes! This is my favorite episode of the show! Clay’s breakdown and explanation of who he is and why he does what he does is incredible. He knows that he’s hurting his family, but he refuses to do any better. The entire speech about Hording and Jackals is incredible.
Yeah good analysis! It seems to me from what I’ve seen that even before marriage that Clay had some insecurities and that Bloberta made him feel good about himself rather than him necessarily loving who she truly was. That may be why that “poison” compounded with the bad job and the drinking built up inside of him. I could be wrong though that’s just my interpretation. I just think that the death of his mom at such a young age was something he didn’t learn to properly deal with.
Honestly I don't think Reverend Putty was that bad in last episode. Like sure he was an asshole, but Florence was also to blame. She pretty much harassed him and pressured him into sleeping with her, and while Putty never said "no", he never really said "yes" either, and even though Florence didn't do those things in a malicious way but rather because she was and hopeless, I don't think it really excuses her actions.
and i think as the show goes on he could have knocked out his racism and be more accepting. although even then he could’ve done that because he’s the reverend and doesn’t even care abt race. Idk
Exactly. Florence was sexually fantasizing a guy she barely knows and took advantage of his meekness to bring him to bed. If a man did that everyone would lose their minds. But with Florence the shippers can pull the fatphobia or misogyny card.
Reverend Putty was apparently meant to have some massive development because of him being a father, learning to see more inner beauty, and even try to get along with Florence by seeing her on a semi regular basis. Apparently eventually Florence was going to lose weight and Putty would have been happy with just being with her. Is he a good person? I mean.... compared to other men of moralton, he's a saint. But that's not fair since most of them don't have someone as great as Stephanie as a daughter keeping you grounded and helping you grow. It's also worth noting officer Paper mouth was meant to start dating Bluberta so she had someone who not only listened to her but someone who she could take care of emotionally and would actually show her affection. It was also a way to let moral see a person of authority not be corrupt.
One thing that's easy to overlook is that Clay is wanting *some* form of affection, and his taunting of the trio was his attempt to do that - all stemming back to the abuse he suffered at the hands of his father. And two fun facts - the creator of the show, Dino Stamatopoulos, went through a nasty divorce, and some of that seeped into the writing for Clay's rant, and Shapey's line at the end of the episode was something that Dino's daughter Tigger (who also voiced Shapey) had said when she was very young, and it stuck in his mind long enough to get incorporated into the show.
14:35 actually he’s mad cause clay wanted to be hurt like when he’d egg on his dad cause he “wasn’t worth it” and that’s exactly what happened here clay wasn’t worth beating up cause they knew he wanted it, they didn’t want to give clay the satisfaction.
Clay is just truly self hatred incarnate, he can’t imagine himself ever happy nor does he want to ever be happy. Clay briefly acknowledges that what he has done is wrong and that he’s a problem that infects others. I like to think Orel is truly the only person in his family that he actually loves, but because of his many insecurities and boiling hatred he doesn’t think he deserves Orel’s love because he still thinks he’s not Worth it.
I don't think Clay really cares for anyone apart from what they can give him, only seeming to do things for Orel because it's what is expected of him rather than because he wants to. He wants Orel to behave in certain ways as if he causes havoc it reflects poorly upon his father.
@@TC-th1eyyou ain’t wrong I’m mostly basing my head canon that Clay cares enough to beat him (Clay associates physical abuse with affection or validation) and that he knows that Orel loves him unconditionally. Clay knows that Bloberta hates him, his father is still disappointed in him, and Shapey isn’t his biological son. I honestly think Clay did what he did was too make Orel hate him so to validate his self hatred.
Pointing out that this is the first time Shapey spoke normally because this is the first time he and Bloc have had someone. The first time they haven't felt alone.
something you missed was that clay was begging to be hit, which was a parallell to the relatioship with his father where being hit was the only validation/acknowledgment he ever got. He wanted to be hurt because it means he was at least "worth it" and by them simply leaving they are saying that he is infact not even worth it
Rewatching this episode i think i just realized that the three men that enter the bar with Clay are reflections of how his life is. Putty: A man who continues to chase after lust, no matter where it comes from (Coach Stopframe) The officer: Someone who’s become unlovable that his current lover hates him (Bloberta) Doctor Potterswheel: Someone who’s lost someone suddenly, and blames themselves for their death (His mother) “With all you people as role models” works so well because Clay is the definition of ALL of the traits he condemns.
Before the show got cancelled rev. Puddy was going to actually fall in love with pink haired lady and not care about what she looks like or who she was, and even though she was to lose weight he would have told her that he loved her and then they would get together. So man had a redemption arc that would have fulfilled his story but the show got cancelled.
I wouldnt say the reverend's irredeemable, I'd say hes the most human character in the show other than Orel. The thing you gotta remember about this show is that it is about the grey area of humanity. To Clay's evil we have Orel's good. The revrend has his good and his evil, hes somewhere in the moral middle.
I think he was asking for the 'five knuckle sandwich' because that was the only way he learned how to receive affection/attention from others. His mum was unconditional love and forgiveness no matter what he did, once she passed, his father payed attention to him, by hitting, when he miss behaved. In the bar scene, when every one left without hitting him, he felt lonely and unloved.
I think the symbolism of the door opening and letting the light in is the interwoven ties of all the people in moralton becoming illuminated, at least to Clay. They're all going to a bar to forget, and Clay keeps instigating and illuminating their shitty behaviors. All so he can get whalloped, which he wants so very badly.
I feel like part of Clays rage is that he isn’t being punished or hurt for anything and that the worlds not fair. He went on this long rant about how he sucks and isn’t good enough and how all the other men suck and then tried on purpose to get hit by them. Clay isn’t mostly upset that they’re soft, he’s upset that these “jackals” aren’t feasting on him. Because they’re better than him, but still bad people, and if they aren’t going to hit him and give him that validation or that push back, who will? And how bad of a person does that make him? Sure everyone else is bad but none of them physically injured someone, and he can’t even get them to do that. It also parallels him as a kid, he’s asking to get hurt to show he matters, and they all leave with him yelling for them to come back. He’s being abandoned again. He isn’t good enough for people and he’s still not bad enough either, he can’t keep them around and he can’t get hit so he’s in this torturous limbo where nothing ever changes.
The character of Clay is so sad yet truly terrible to others that when you find out in the last few episodes that Clay was once a pure, happy and non alcoholic to a depressed, emotionally numb, alcoholic it shows the downfall a once great guy.
For those wondering how he knew clays job, it was because someone commented in an earlier video about his job. He saw it and responded to it saying that he spoiled it for him
Clay speaking about hoarding a woman is in reference to how he himself feels like he's lost control over something he sees as his. Bloberta. He found the handkerchief with the doctor's initials in it which is why he seemed so oddly hostile towards the doctor. Clay is a fascinating character because of how uncomfortably real he is. The depiction of a man who has it all yet has absolutely nothing. And is only getting worse by refusing to be the person oral thinks he is. Or. I guess at this point, thought. You don't get shot by your dad without harboring resentment
Something I want to point out is that Shappie for the first time speaks normally but also admits thar he only wants his mums milk because when he's close to her he feels less lonely. But he only stops drinking and tells thus too her after meeting Block. They also imply the Doc got his wife killed because of his fetish
I love this episode so much because it shows the desperation within Clay. He wants so desperately to be punched because it shows that he is worth something (because this was the way his father used to do to him.) Without others acknowledgment he has nothing as he feels like nothing on a daily basis. Yes he is gay, but I wonder if this is why he started seeing the coach. What if he didn’t love the coach, but was merely looking for someone to give him Acknowledgment but not as this kind of abuse…
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I'm apologetic of such departure you experienced. It is saddening but it's not an end. I am glad you feel joyous from experiencing happiness as it proves your value and kindness. CeeJay it's a very dope guy and he'd willingly continue to do this as his long time dream, so he won't stop so easily!
I think what I find saddest is that clay was trying to bait people into punching him as that's how he precives being cared for as shown in the episode when he was younger.
Clay purposefully tries to get everyone angry with him so that they will hit him because that's how he thinks love is shown. Putty, potterswheel and papermouth realise what he's trying to do and they decide...... "He's not even worth it"
2:16 There was actually supposed to be a deleted episode after the previous one where Reverence Putty reconciles with Florence. She stops attending the church, and despite ending up doing the deed with a lot of women-which is something he would usually be happy about-Putty was apathetic (his apathy was what made him attractive to all the women lmao) about it because he realizes that he misses florence. He does see her again in the diner with another guy but she had slimmed down significantly, much to his disappointment. She refuses to talk to him when he attempted to, so he actually ends up sleeping at her door. He realizes that he liked her the way she originally was and all the s*x he had in her absence was meaningless. He tells her he loves her and they reconcile. I honestly don't know why they had to cut it off because honestly it would've redeemed Reverend putty's character fully.
I didn’t like its script. I don’t see that many women wanting to have sex with Putty simply because he stopped being desperate. It felt very indulgent.
Clay trying to goad the others into hitting him takes on a new light when you remember that after his mum died he did the same to his dad, he's conflate being hit with his own self-worth. When his did didn't hit him he said "you're not worth it", and to Clay when the three walked out the bar they were saying the same thing.
I believe that clays bar speech/him egging them on was, in the end, to get hit, to get beat. Because that is how he understands affection, being hit shows that you matter, so him not being hit is the worst thing that could happen to him
Clay was instigating to get into a fight since he associated getting beat with affection or being worth it. So he was essentially trying to get any kind of what he perceived to be positive attention from the other three.
My favorite episode and I believe Everytime a person entered the bar letting the light in was a symbol of their problems they refuse to see in the light
I seen clays job and it’s actually really really big one and shocking as well! Never thought about it much until you actually see it and it’s surprising in my opinion. When you were talking about what he was to the town you were *really* close.
Fun fact. Had the series gone on reverend putty would have genuinely fallen in love with Florence, admit to his narcicism. And addicted to loving her for who she is. Even wanting her to put her weight back on after she lost it to look like dotty
"Dolly, if I go to work today, I'm gonna k*ll somebody" "I see... Well, at least you put in that paperweight order" "Ahaha, it won't be enough, they never get enough, Always so much more paper than there are weights You know how much paperwork I have? It never stops! I don't know how it happens, you start off in life, as a little baby" "Uh-huh, no paperwork" "Exactly, no paperwork But do we appreciate it all as little babies? No, we cry, cry, cry Cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry" "Well, I guess when you have a family That's the sacrifice you make" "Sacrifice, exactly! I sacrificed The ultimate sacrifice! My happiness! For my kids! You bet I did! You bet I did... And I'd do it again, too I'd do it over and over again Ha, that's my life! Over and over and over And over and over And over and over And over and over And over and over And over and over And over and over And over and over And over and over And over and over and over" "Okay Clay, I get the point" No, you DONT!!!! */breakbeat intensifies/*
When Clay gets into a self destructive spiral he seeks connection through what worked for him as a kid, trying to goad people into beating the crap out of him.
There are a few transcripts of unfinished episodes for Moral Orel. One of the episodes is titled "Narcissism" which follows up with Puddy and Florence. There's an animatic that's dubbed by some folks here on UA-cam that you can find.
Yes this is a Clay episode but one of the highlights for me was the fact Shapey talked. Not screamed, not babble, tried to communicate and connect. But he and his new brother, Block, they can't phrase their thoughts and emotions properly. They're scared because Bloberta is tearing the house up and acting panicked. Something they aren't used to the clean freak, numb mother they are used to seeing. They're quiet for the first time, observing and while scared, trying to reach out. A moment to connect and attempt to comfort come's out through toddler speech. It's so sad, because he's 7 years old. Neglect stunted them. But even so, look how kind they're trying to be.. it isn't Shapey's fault he was raised that way. It isn't his fault when their parents place responsibility and safety on Orel's shoulders. We see this annoying little brat and think that's all there is to him, but he's a victim to. And we don't see that till now. Thanks if you read. I have such a connection to this show and it's one of those moments that makes you reflect. Because it passes by so fast. I wish the show had more time to explore Shapey and Block.
Clay learned from his father that he's only worth it if someone's willing to hit him . With noone willing to hit him . He probably feels like he's not worth it
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I thought the door opening was more about being able to comfortably live with the problems that were brought up around the men individually. They complain about the light but out there in the light is where all the problems don't have to matter. When they're in the bar, all the problems get swelled up and burst and turn into a toxic little circle but that could be because of Clay's overwhelmingly bitter feelings about life.
You said reverend Putty has no redemption, well, there's an episode scrapped, called "Narcissism" that the script for it is still up, I Read it, and it's an episode where a lot of the woman in Moralton start to fall for Rod, and sleep with him, but even tough now he is having a lot of sex, he can't enjoy it, he feels numb, and like all of it it's for nothing, untill he starts to think about Florence, then he starts to actually get it on, even tough every woman in Moralton wants him, he still only thinks about Florence, so, he goes for Stephanie for advice, that eventually leads to Rod going to Florence and confessing that he loves her, (And she looses weight), The episode implies that even if she haven't lost weight the reverend would still go looking for her
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Clay’s rant was really about how he hates his life but he also doesn’t want to abandon it because in his messed up way he does care about his children well Orel mostly since shapely isn’t his and that he would make those sacrifices to not be happy for his children because he wants to give them something he didn’t have a father figure in his life hence why he physically disciplines Orel and took him on the trip he wants to be better than his father out of spite , but he goes on talk about all about how he thought Roberta was the answer to the happiness but when he married her he realized she wasnt the answer and that he wants to cling onto her but he doesn’t value her and prevent others from having her . Clay deep down knows his a piece of garbage but he knows it’s not totally his fault he’s so messed up and he doesn’t want Orel to grow up to be like him letting other people hurt him and turning him bitter like him I.e sensitive
The reason Clay didn’t go to the church might be because everybody else, even Orel, aren’t pretending anymore. He just skipped church altogether because he’s hated it all along, and used this newfound time to drink his problems away. This could also be why Clay decided to go on a huge rant and insult everyone. Nobody’s pretending, everybody’s sad, like him, so he was just himself, an asshole.
Man, oh man, you're doing an amazing job with this series. Honestly, and this just makes me wonder if clay is about to do something really. Dangerous for having some time with himself. Or maybe he's gonna go find his father. I have never seen this series. Honestly, it's the first time I'm actually watching it with. You do and I just think like something's about to come out of. This that wasn't expected but I don't know if it'll be held off for a few episodes
Abuse is the only love Clay knows. It’s what his father did to him before his mother died, and what his father withheld from him afterwards, only hurting Clay whenever he’d goad him into it. The words “you’re not worth it” changed Clay’s life, his perspective on pain and abuse, and how he acts. Clay’s actions are dictated by an arbitrary worthiness that only has proof in its results, being whenever Clay is hit. But since he exists in a patriarchal system that gives him and those like him power, he’s at the top of the totem pole. There’s no abuser for Clay. It’s why he didn’t punish Orel after Orel beat the everliving shit out of him; *he saw that as love.* It’s sort of like a fucked up version of “love languages,” a form of expression. Because of his upbringing and the circumstances that lead to his adulthood, he sees this pain as comfort. It’s why he beats Orel all the time, because he loves him in his fucked up way. It’s why he doesn’t hit Bloberta even though he’s got wife-beater written all over him, they’re in a loveless marriage. Finally, it’s why he was basically begging to be beat up now. He wants “love” from his community, and they despise him to the point where they see him as not even close to worth the reprimand from beating someone in a position of power. In a sense, Clay represents his very own criticisms of Jesus (Note, not the actual Jesus, he was projecting): Faux sacrifice, privilege, power, and cowardice. This plays into his narcissistic worldview nicely, since he’s nigh-divine under this perspective, a perspective only reinforced by what he thinks his job is (awful), as well as what it actually is (a spoiler that I will not tell you.)
When your done with the Moral Orel series, I suggest watching "It's Bruno" I really like the series and it is about a man with his dog. It's a pretty funny series and not to mention season two is coming out soon this year.
I think that him looking at the drink between Shapey and Block was him wondering if he was drunk enough to see double, then having the attitude of 'eh, fuck it'.
I know this is probably gotten commented like 40 times already but the reason he looks at his drink at the very beginning of the episode whenever there’s the two boys is because he thinks he’s seeing double because of his drink
8:45, Officer Papermouth didn't know it was Rod because A, it was night time, and judging by the lighting in the scene, if we the viewer couldn't see while INSIDE the room, I doubt he'd be able to see inside either. And B, Florence's apartment from what I remember was on the 2nd or 3rd floor, unless her ex-husband climbed a drainpipe or something, I don't think he'd be able to see his wife and Rod just... Y'know... Also C, Rod screamed "Dottie", not "Florence".
This episode seems like when the cup finally overflows...in other words Clay usually keeps to himself or drinks away his problems, but something happened that alcohol couldn't fix and when the cup is spilled the entire cup comes out...meaning every problem he had hidden finally came out in 1 go....that could also explain his ass hole ness...he doesn't give a shit anymore letting him become cold and hard as much as he wants But I don't blame puddy for what he did...because I was in his shoes once and as a man it is hard for me to tell a woman I have no feeling for "No because I find her ugly" doesn't mean i hate her just there 0 chance of any feelings to grow if you find something ugly especially nice and good people like her...
I love this whole episode but this also is one of the only times shapey has said a full sentence and it seems like his parents are neglecting his needs to mature and are making him dependent on any sort of comfort such as breast-feeding ..
***SPOILER*** Clay is the town's mayor (which explains the "misspells gods' name in legal documents" in a prior episode) reference for better understanding 4:11, and 4:58
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The door opening is symbolizing mens problems venting into the public. Men are always deemed to be the tough ones who internalize problems. The door opening is the one place they can talk about actual personal problems being aired to the world.
Clay is just a wonderful view of someone forced into a situation in life and refusing to say he needs to back away. To say and admit he needs to stop. The bitterness of your life slowly overtakes you overtime and soon its all you know, how to do, how to give and so on. Just bitter.
Ah, okay, that makes a lot more sense. I never figured out why, so thank you. I appreciate that.
@@CeeAyeJaydid you know Clay is the mayor
@@AnguianoFarms He didn't get to that part yet
@@AnguianoFarms delete this
@@AnguianoFarms Congratulations, you spoiled someone a show!
Not only is it Clay viewing the town as soft: The reason he got so upset that Rev. Puddy, Officer Papermouth and Dr. Potterswheel didn't hit him is because it reminded him of how his father had told him that he wasn't even worth hitting. In Clay's warped mind, being dealt physical punishment means that he's cared about.
Hmmm I'm not too sure about that last part. I thought that as well while recording, but then I thought why would he care if they care about him in a loving way.
@@CeeAyeJay because scars are far rooted than a mere beginning. The mere idea of having that reoccur can bring back a wrapped reality.
Logically, yes, he wouldn't care one bit if these people didn't actually admited it, but since we recognize and adapt via patterns, seeing it again can bring back memories. Just how saying a word might affect or harm someone. You even said it yourself on your previous video CeeJay!
I hope I wasnt rude, you had the good ideas and chose not to say them for safety and precaution. It's still valid thinking nonetheless
@@CeeAyeJaybecause he's a spoiled child and needs to be the center of attention just rewatch his childhood and how his mom spoiled him and never told him no and how his dad told him he wasn't worth it and he began to associate being hit with being loved it didn't change when he grew up just his situation changes and he still needs to feel like he's the most important person in town and when they refused to hit him it reminded him of his dad telling him that he wasn't worth it and hurt his ego. I have dyslexia and it's difficult to get my point across when I can't physically tell someone what I mean so I hope this makes sense to you
It's not about care. It's about being seen as worth it.
@@CeeAyeJayHe thinks the attention that comes with being hit is the closest to validation he can get...like real love is impossible
The bartender is voiced by the same VA as Orel which I feel adds a little touch of irony where Clay can vent his problems there but never talk to Orel about things
Yes! This is my favorite episode of the show! Clay’s breakdown and explanation of who he is and why he does what he does is incredible. He knows that he’s hurting his family, but he refuses to do any better. The entire speech about Hording and Jackals is incredible.
Yeah good analysis! It seems to me from what I’ve seen that even before marriage that Clay had some insecurities and that Bloberta made him feel good about himself rather than him necessarily loving who she truly was. That may be why that “poison” compounded with the bad job and the drinking built up inside of him. I could be wrong though that’s just my interpretation. I just think that the death of his mom at such a young age was something he didn’t learn to properly deal with.
Honestly I don't think Reverend Putty was that bad in last episode. Like sure he was an asshole, but Florence was also to blame. She pretty much harassed him and pressured him into sleeping with her, and while Putty never said "no", he never really said "yes" either, and even though Florence didn't do those things in a malicious way but rather because she was and hopeless, I don't think it really excuses her actions.
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Agreed. Worst part of Putty is his racism and being complicit in the killing of the dog and imprisonment of The Missing Link
and i think as the show goes on he could have knocked out his racism and be more accepting. although even then he could’ve done that because he’s the reverend and doesn’t even care abt race. Idk
Exactly. Florence was sexually fantasizing a guy she barely knows and took advantage of his meekness to bring him to bed.
If a man did that everyone would lose their minds. But with Florence the shippers can pull the fatphobia or misogyny card.
Reverend Putty was apparently meant to have some massive development because of him being a father, learning to see more inner beauty, and even try to get along with Florence by seeing her on a semi regular basis. Apparently eventually Florence was going to lose weight and Putty would have been happy with just being with her.
Is he a good person? I mean.... compared to other men of moralton, he's a saint. But that's not fair since most of them don't have someone as great as Stephanie as a daughter keeping you grounded and helping you grow.
It's also worth noting officer Paper mouth was meant to start dating Bluberta so she had someone who not only listened to her but someone who she could take care of emotionally and would actually show her affection. It was also a way to let moral see a person of authority not be corrupt.
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One thing that's easy to overlook is that Clay is wanting *some* form of affection, and his taunting of the trio was his attempt to do that - all stemming back to the abuse he suffered at the hands of his father.
And two fun facts - the creator of the show, Dino Stamatopoulos, went through a nasty divorce, and some of that seeped into the writing for Clay's rant, and Shapey's line at the end of the episode was something that Dino's daughter Tigger (who also voiced Shapey) had said when she was very young, and it stuck in his mind long enough to get incorporated into the show.
14:35 actually he’s mad cause clay wanted to be hurt like when he’d egg on his dad cause he “wasn’t worth it” and that’s exactly what happened here clay wasn’t worth beating up cause they knew he wanted it, they didn’t want to give clay the satisfaction.
And that's why Clay always beat Orel but not Shapey or Blaberta
Clay is just truly self hatred incarnate, he can’t imagine himself ever happy nor does he want to ever be happy. Clay briefly acknowledges that what he has done is wrong and that he’s a problem that infects others. I like to think Orel is truly the only person in his family that he actually loves, but because of his many insecurities and boiling hatred he doesn’t think he deserves Orel’s love because he still thinks he’s not Worth it.
I don't think Clay really cares for anyone apart from what they can give him, only seeming to do things for Orel because it's what is expected of him rather than because he wants to. He wants Orel to behave in certain ways as if he causes havoc it reflects poorly upon his father.
@@TC-th1eyyou ain’t wrong I’m mostly basing my head canon that Clay cares enough to beat him (Clay associates physical abuse with affection or validation) and that he knows that Orel loves him unconditionally. Clay knows that Bloberta hates him, his father is still disappointed in him, and Shapey isn’t his biological son. I honestly think Clay did what he did was too make Orel hate him so to validate his self hatred.
Pointing out that this is the first time Shapey spoke normally because this is the first time he and Bloc have had someone. The first time they haven't felt alone.
The speech clay gave here is just amazing and i can feel his sadness and pain here. This episode is just *chef's kiss*
something you missed was that clay was begging to be hit, which was a parallell to the relatioship with his father where being hit was the only validation/acknowledgment he ever got. He wanted to be hurt because it means he was at least "worth it" and by them simply leaving they are saying that he is infact not even worth it
Rewatching this episode i think i just realized that the three men that enter the bar with Clay are reflections of how his life is.
Putty: A man who continues to chase after lust, no matter where it comes from (Coach Stopframe)
The officer: Someone who’s become unlovable that his current lover hates him (Bloberta)
Doctor Potterswheel: Someone who’s lost someone suddenly, and blames themselves for their death (His mother)
“With all you people as role models” works so well because Clay is the definition of ALL of the traits he condemns.
Before the show got cancelled rev. Puddy was going to actually fall in love with pink haired lady and not care about what she looks like or who she was, and even though she was to lose weight he would have told her that he loved her and then they would get together. So man had a redemption arc that would have fulfilled his story but the show got cancelled.
I wouldnt say the reverend's irredeemable, I'd say hes the most human character in the show other than Orel. The thing you gotta remember about this show is that it is about the grey area of humanity. To Clay's evil we have Orel's good. The revrend has his good and his evil, hes somewhere in the moral middle.
This is by far one of the best shows I’ve ever seen the amount of effort put into these clay animations is just incredible
I think he was asking for the 'five knuckle sandwich' because that was the only way he learned how to receive affection/attention from others. His mum was unconditional love and forgiveness no matter what he did, once she passed, his father payed attention to him, by hitting, when he miss behaved. In the bar scene, when every one left without hitting him, he felt lonely and unloved.
clay's kidney's are the MVP
I think the symbolism of the door opening and letting the light in is the interwoven ties of all the people in moralton becoming illuminated, at least to Clay. They're all going to a bar to forget, and Clay keeps instigating and illuminating their shitty behaviors.
All so he can get whalloped, which he wants so very badly.
I feel like part of Clays rage is that he isn’t being punished or hurt for anything and that the worlds not fair. He went on this long rant about how he sucks and isn’t good enough and how all the other men suck and then tried on purpose to get hit by them. Clay isn’t mostly upset that they’re soft, he’s upset that these “jackals” aren’t feasting on him. Because they’re better than him, but still bad people, and if they aren’t going to hit him and give him that validation or that push back, who will? And how bad of a person does that make him? Sure everyone else is bad but none of them physically injured someone, and he can’t even get them to do that. It also parallels him as a kid, he’s asking to get hurt to show he matters, and they all leave with him yelling for them to come back. He’s being abandoned again. He isn’t good enough for people and he’s still not bad enough either, he can’t keep them around and he can’t get hit so he’s in this torturous limbo where nothing ever changes.
The character of Clay is so sad yet truly terrible to others that when you find out in the last few episodes that Clay was once a pure, happy and non alcoholic to a depressed, emotionally numb, alcoholic it shows the downfall a once great guy.
I love these in depth character focused episodes where we learn more about the character and why they are the way they are it's just art in my opinion
For those wondering how he knew clays job, it was because someone commented in an earlier video about his job. He saw it and responded to it saying that he spoiled it for him
Clay speaking about hoarding a woman is in reference to how he himself feels like he's lost control over something he sees as his. Bloberta. He found the handkerchief with the doctor's initials in it which is why he seemed so oddly hostile towards the doctor. Clay is a fascinating character because of how uncomfortably real he is. The depiction of a man who has it all yet has absolutely nothing. And is only getting worse by refusing to be the person oral thinks he is. Or. I guess at this point, thought. You don't get shot by your dad without harboring resentment
I think that the ending with Shapey speaking his first sentence, is one of the most bittersweet moments in any show
Something I want to point out is that Shappie for the first time speaks normally but also admits thar he only wants his mums milk because when he's close to her he feels less lonely.
But he only stops drinking and tells thus too her after meeting Block.
They also imply the Doc got his wife killed because of his fetish
I love this episode so much because it shows the desperation within Clay. He wants so desperately to be punched because it shows that he is worth something (because this was the way his father used to do to him.) Without others acknowledgment he has nothing as he feels like nothing on a daily basis. Yes he is gay, but I wonder if this is why he started seeing the coach. What if he didn’t love the coach, but was merely looking for someone to give him Acknowledgment but not as this kind of abuse…
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I'm apologetic of such departure you experienced. It is saddening but it's not an end. I am glad you feel joyous from experiencing happiness as it proves your value and kindness.
CeeJay it's a very dope guy and he'd willingly continue to do this as his long time dream, so he won't stop so easily!
I think what I find saddest is that clay was trying to bait people into punching him as that's how he precives being cared for as shown in the episode when he was younger.
Clay purposefully tries to get everyone angry with him so that they will hit him because that's how he thinks love is shown. Putty, potterswheel and papermouth realise what he's trying to do and they decide......
"He's not even worth it"
2:16 There was actually supposed to be a deleted episode after the previous one where Reverence Putty reconciles with Florence. She stops attending the church, and despite ending up doing the deed with a lot of women-which is something he would usually be happy about-Putty was apathetic (his apathy was what made him attractive to all the women lmao) about it because he realizes that he misses florence. He does see her again in the diner with another guy but she had slimmed down significantly, much to his disappointment. She refuses to talk to him when he attempted to, so he actually ends up sleeping at her door. He realizes that he liked her the way she originally was and all the s*x he had in her absence was meaningless. He tells her he loves her and they reconcile. I honestly don't know why they had to cut it off because honestly it would've redeemed Reverend putty's character fully.
This has now been added to my head cannon now
I didn’t like its script. I don’t see that many women wanting to have sex with Putty simply because he stopped being desperate. It felt very indulgent.
The camera angles and just the artistic masterpiece all of this is, I'm an genuinely sobbing at how beautiful it all is UGH
Anyone else wish for a future where Clay was truly happy?
So one where he ne er met bloberta
He *could* have had that with Beforel Orel...
I don't to be honest. I want the people that he hurt to be happy.
He doesn’t deserve it
@@cholanrajendran1207 He should deserve it, cuz his life was messed up after he met Bloberta and started drinking.
Clay trying to goad the others into hitting him takes on a new light when you remember that after his mum died he did the same to his dad, he's conflate being hit with his own self-worth. When his did didn't hit him he said "you're not worth it", and to Clay when the three walked out the bar they were saying the same thing.
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I believe that clays bar speech/him egging them on was, in the end, to get hit, to get beat. Because that is how he understands affection, being hit shows that you matter, so him not being hit is the worst thing that could happen to him
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Fun fact: This episode was so good it won an Emmy in 2009
I heard that it was mainly because of Clay’s monologues this episode
Clay was instigating to get into a fight since he associated getting beat with affection or being worth it. So he was essentially trying to get any kind of what he perceived to be positive attention from the other three.
My favorite episode and I believe Everytime a person entered the bar letting the light in was a symbol of their problems they refuse to see in the light
Fun Fact: This episode won an Emmy Award in 2009
I seen clays job and it’s actually really really big one and shocking as well! Never thought about it much until you actually see it and it’s surprising in my opinion. When you were talking about what he was to the town you were *really* close.
Fun fact. Had the series gone on reverend putty would have genuinely fallen in love with Florence, admit to his narcicism. And addicted to loving her for who she is. Even wanting her to put her weight back on after she lost it to look like dotty
Wait really?
@nailtutorialbykhaye3028 look it up the episode would have been titled narcissism
"Dolly, if I go to work today, I'm gonna k*ll somebody"
"I see... Well, at least you put in that paperweight order"
"Ahaha, it won't be enough, they never get enough,
Always so much more paper than there are weights
You know how much paperwork I have?
It never stops!
I don't know how it happens, you start off in life, as a little baby"
"Uh-huh, no paperwork"
"Exactly, no paperwork
But do we appreciate it all as little babies?
No, we cry, cry, cry
Cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry"
"Well, I guess when you have a family
That's the sacrifice you make"
"Sacrifice, exactly!
I sacrificed
The ultimate sacrifice!
My happiness!
For my kids!
You bet I did! You bet I did...
And I'd do it again, too
I'd do it over and over again
Ha, that's my life!
Over and over and over
And over and over
And over and over
And over and over
And over and over
And over and over
And over and over
And over and over
And over and over
And over and over and over"
"Okay Clay, I get the point"
No, you DONT!!!! */breakbeat intensifies/*
When Clay gets into a self destructive spiral he seeks connection through what worked for him as a kid, trying to goad people into beating the crap out of him.
There are a few transcripts of unfinished episodes for Moral Orel. One of the episodes is titled "Narcissism" which follows up with Puddy and Florence. There's an animatic that's dubbed by some folks here on UA-cam that you can find.
Oh I loved that animatic!! And the voice work was amazing.
Clay has guilt for killing his mother for becoming a drunk and for starting a family he didn't want
Yes this is a Clay episode but one of the highlights for me was the fact Shapey talked. Not screamed, not babble, tried to communicate and connect. But he and his new brother, Block, they can't phrase their thoughts and emotions properly. They're scared because Bloberta is tearing the house up and acting panicked. Something they aren't used to the clean freak, numb mother they are used to seeing. They're quiet for the first time, observing and while scared, trying to reach out. A moment to connect and attempt to comfort come's out through toddler speech. It's so sad, because he's 7 years old. Neglect stunted them. But even so, look how kind they're trying to be..
it isn't Shapey's fault he was raised that way. It isn't his fault when their parents place responsibility and safety on Orel's shoulders. We see this annoying little brat and think that's all there is to him, but he's a victim to. And we don't see that till now.
Thanks if you read. I have such a connection to this show and it's one of those moments that makes you reflect. Because it passes by so fast. I wish the show had more time to explore Shapey and Block.
Clay learned from his father that he's only worth it if someone's willing to hit him . With noone willing to hit him . He probably feels like he's not worth it
Always excited to hear you piecing the story together! Getting a new vid after work is like a lil treat.
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9:07 Clay really went ":3"
What a good video to watch after an all nighter lmao
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I thought the door opening was more about being able to comfortably live with the problems that were brought up around the men individually. They complain about the light but out there in the light is where all the problems don't have to matter. When they're in the bar, all the problems get swelled up and burst and turn into a toxic little circle but that could be because of Clay's overwhelmingly bitter feelings about life.
All I can say is the voice actor of clay deserves an Oscar or something. You can really feel the pain in his monologue
You said reverend Putty has no redemption, well, there's an episode scrapped, called "Narcissism" that the script for it is still up, I Read it, and it's an episode where a lot of the woman in Moralton start to fall for Rod, and sleep with him, but even tough now he is having a lot of sex, he can't enjoy it, he feels numb, and like all of it it's for nothing, untill he starts to think about Florence, then he starts to actually get it on, even tough every woman in Moralton wants him, he still only thinks about Florence, so, he goes for Stephanie for advice, that eventually leads to Rod going to Florence and confessing that he loves her, (And she looses weight), The episode implies that even if she haven't lost weight the reverend would still go looking for her
Huh, I didn't remember that last part. It's the script online?
@@kevinwillems8720 ua-cam.com/video/_S8svg8_ul8/v-deo.htmlsi=C5ILKt4YSsryTBBs
@@kevinwillems8720 this guy made a little animation and voice acting of the script
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At 5:24 when he was talking about doing everything over again, all the overs he said was the number of his dead siblings.
This guy is literally the embodiment of a reaction UA-camr, he’s happy af.
It makes me happy.
4:12 clay has a very important job but to him it is a "stinking dead end job"
I've been getting a lot of crap at school these days and you're probably the kindest UA-camr I've ever seen thanks for being kind and helping me through this
Clay’s rant was really about how he hates his life but he also doesn’t want to abandon it because in his messed up way he does care about his children well Orel mostly since shapely isn’t his and that he would make those sacrifices to not be happy for his children because he wants to give them something he didn’t have a father figure in his life hence why he physically disciplines Orel and took him on the trip he wants to be better than his father out of spite , but he goes on talk about all about how he thought Roberta was the answer to the happiness but when he married her he realized she wasnt the answer and that he wants to cling onto her but he doesn’t value her and prevent others from having her . Clay deep down knows his a piece of garbage but he knows it’s not totally his fault he’s so messed up and he doesn’t want Orel to grow up to be like him letting other people hurt him and turning him bitter like him I.e sensitive
The reason Clay didn’t go to the church might be because everybody else, even Orel, aren’t pretending anymore. He just skipped church altogether because he’s hated it all along, and used this newfound time to drink his problems away. This could also be why Clay decided to go on a huge rant and insult everyone. Nobody’s pretending, everybody’s sad, like him, so he was just himself, an asshole.
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The last episode is really good. They did a great job wrapping it all up and it gives credit to the amazing talent that wrote this series.
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Man, oh man, you're doing an amazing job with this series. Honestly, and this just makes me wonder if clay is about to do something really. Dangerous for having some time with himself. Or maybe he's gonna go find his father. I have never seen this series. Honestly, it's the first time I'm actually watching it with. You do and I just think like something's about to come out of. This that wasn't expected but I don't know if it'll be held off for a few episodes
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Reverend putty was supposed to get a episode where he wins back Florence and becomes a better person but it was scrapped sadly
You aren’t ready for clays job. God I love this show 😂
I really love the humanizing of Clay in this episode he’s just imagine of Depression at this point rather than a big assh*le
We do not accept Revenant Putty slander.
Abuse is the only love Clay knows. It’s what his father did to him before his mother died, and what his father withheld from him afterwards, only hurting Clay whenever he’d goad him into it. The words “you’re not worth it” changed Clay’s life, his perspective on pain and abuse, and how he acts.
Clay’s actions are dictated by an arbitrary worthiness that only has proof in its results, being whenever Clay is hit. But since he exists in a patriarchal system that gives him and those like him power, he’s at the top of the totem pole. There’s no abuser for Clay. It’s why he didn’t punish Orel after Orel beat the everliving shit out of him; *he saw that as love.* It’s sort of like a fucked up version of “love languages,” a form of expression. Because of his upbringing and the circumstances that lead to his adulthood, he sees this pain as comfort. It’s why he beats Orel all the time, because he loves him in his fucked up way. It’s why he doesn’t hit Bloberta even though he’s got wife-beater written all over him, they’re in a loveless marriage. Finally, it’s why he was basically begging to be beat up now. He wants “love” from his community, and they despise him to the point where they see him as not even close to worth the reprimand from beating someone in a position of power. In a sense, Clay represents his very own criticisms of Jesus (Note, not the actual Jesus, he was projecting): Faux sacrifice, privilege, power, and cowardice. This plays into his narcissistic worldview nicely, since he’s nigh-divine under this perspective, a perspective only reinforced by what he thinks his job is (awful), as well as what it actually is (a spoiler that I will not tell you.)
When your done with the Moral Orel series, I suggest watching "It's Bruno" I really like the series and it is about a man with his dog. It's a pretty funny series and not to mention season two is coming out soon this year.
I think that him looking at the drink between Shapey and Block was him wondering if he was drunk enough to see double, then having the attitude of 'eh, fuck it'.
Man Clay's voice actor tho is for real one of the best I've witnessed. When he yells "no you don't" I'm just like damn bro. Give this man a bonus
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That cop was about whip slash the hell out of clay
I know this is probably gotten commented like 40 times already but the reason he looks at his drink at the very beginning of the episode whenever there’s the two boys is because he thinks he’s seeing double because of his drink
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8:45, Officer Papermouth didn't know it was Rod because A, it was night time, and judging by the lighting in the scene, if we the viewer couldn't see while INSIDE the room, I doubt he'd be able to see inside either. And B, Florence's apartment from what I remember was on the 2nd or 3rd floor, unless her ex-husband climbed a drainpipe or something, I don't think he'd be able to see his wife and Rod just... Y'know...
Also C, Rod screamed "Dottie", not "Florence".
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can we just take a minute to appreciate how level headed the bartender lady was in this episode
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This episode seems like when the cup finally overflows...in other words Clay usually keeps to himself or drinks away his problems, but something happened that alcohol couldn't fix and when the cup is spilled the entire cup comes out...meaning every problem he had hidden finally came out in 1 go....that could also explain his ass hole ness...he doesn't give a shit anymore letting him become cold and hard as much as he wants
But I don't blame puddy for what he did...because I was in his shoes once and as a man it is hard for me to tell a woman I have no feeling for "No because I find her ugly" doesn't mean i hate her just there 0 chance of any feelings to grow if you find something ugly especially nice and good people like her...
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I love this whole episode but this also is one of the only times shapey has said a full sentence and it seems like his parents are neglecting his needs to mature and are making him dependent on any sort of comfort such as breast-feeding ..
***SPOILER***
Clay is the town's mayor
(which explains the "misspells gods' name in legal documents" in a prior episode)
reference for better understanding 4:11, and 4:58
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I've been keeping up with the series and I'm about 3 minutes on whilst writing this anyway thanks for doing this I don't have many friends and the ones I do have don't watch with me but I get to watch these episodes with you which is pretty cool so thx. (Sorry for not use proper grammar I'm not good at that stuff😅)
I recently started watching you and at first when I saw the shorts I wasn’t that interested, but now that I’ve watched all of your videos I love your content and will continue to watch❤️
I love the moral orel videos!
I love how the officer was about to bash in clays head with a gun, but than clay makes fun of the doctor, and he pulls out a scalpel
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Thank you for the great content these uploads make my day
My favorite episode
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clay is the perfect example of "we become the monsters they make us,"
I’ve always viewed Clay as Bi instead of gay