Sir Criston had me deep breathing, I don’t like the way he was treating Rhaenyras boys. It takes a SMALL person to hurt a child because of their PARENTS🤬
He's a whole weirdo. He hates the children because he felt slightly by their mother. A grown man hating on children. He and Aliecent are nasty vile people.
Daemon asked about Laena and not the child unlike his brother who asked if the child could be saved. He doesn't care about it being a boy as long he or she is a dragon rider
@@sashaparrish228 but the books are from people that don’t know them very well this is canon since George helped them make the show and you can tell he never loved her he likes her yes but the only person Daemon truly loves is himself
Daemon shook his head “no” to not do the c-section. He made the opposite decision of Viserys. But Laena took matters into her own hands. A scene of Daemon comforting his daughters after Laena’s death was removed from this episode. I wish they would have kept it in to show Daemon truly loved his wife and his daughters (despite showing more interest in Baela who has a dragon).
Daemon wasn't going to have Laena cut open. Likely both Laena and the child were going to die anyway. She chose to go out as a dragon rider by fire. A dragon riders death comes from a defeat in battle. The birthing bed is a woman's battlefield. Laena was defeated and she went out with the honour of dragon fire. Daemon probably wouldn't have let her go. That's why she went out there by herself.
Actually it’s implied that it’s the “hands” doing. Otto Hightower probably runs things instead of Alicent. Hence why she’s shocked when she sees rhanaerya
Have you guys noticed that Alicent’s daughter seems to be a dreamer? “He has eyes but I don’t believe he can see” i think it’s about Visarys not being able to see that Rhaenyra’s sons are bastards. Than after Alicent said to Aemond : “you will have a dragon one day” Helaena said “he will have to close an eye” ( foreshadow?) and one more thing. She made a comment about the last ring :”the last ring has no legs at all” . I think that the “ ring” is actually a metaphore for king( the last king has no legs at all) is it about Bran? Or maybe some accident for one of the kids?
One of her sons get his eye cut from one of his cousins because they pick a fight with them calling them strongs and bastards. That’s why Alicent charges with the knife because she demands an eye for an eye
Ser Criston provoking Ser Harwin to hit him, proves his point and made Harwin look bad. That's why Criston laughs and says "thought as much". It all but confirmed that Harwin was the father and it got him kicked off the City Watch. Alicent is not fucking Larys. She just gets advice from him. He gives her counsel, not dick. What you saw in the episode is a separate fire. During Aegon's Conquest, he and his sister-wives burned Harrenhal. This is something else. With both Ser Lyonel and Ser Harwin dead, Ser Larys becomes the new lord of Harrenhal. He also opens the door for a new Hand of the King to be named.
Daemon was asking about his wife so I don't think he was gonna risk his wife's life. I think he really loved her in his own way. This scene is the same as Viserys with his 1st wife but the only difference is Daemon would of choose his wife over the child.
So than tell me, why did laena said to him, that she knows deep down she was not the first/right choice for a wife for him and she found peace with that? So, here is the thing, I think that he loved/liked her, but she is not the one for him. Laena described his depression by telling him that he stays just inside reading the same books all over again and that he can‘t sleep. Futhermore, she says that life has disappointed him, because he is not in that place he really wanted to be, beside his brother married with rhaenyra. Daemon is unhappy and rhaeneyra is unhappy too, their fire is out, bceause they are seperated from each other. You will see next episode what I mean for sure.
@@legolasokatti4281 not just any books, books about other dragon lords Daemons ancestors who he’s obsessed with they are the reason he’s so ambitious he wants to be like them famous warriors pure blooded Valyrian conquerors so that’s one of the main takes I got from that when she said he’s angry where life took him I imagine she was referring to him not being a spectacular king or conqueror he didn’t want to live a life of a married man even with Rhaynera as he said he wanted to bring glory back to his house and he thought he could achieve that with her
Rhaneys is half Baratheon. Her mother was a Baratheon. As long you have some Targaryen blood you can ride a dragon. Vaserys was chosen because he was man not because he full is blooded Targaryen
Not really Alicent knows if she can prove the kids are bastards they will all be disinherited including Rhaynera so her son would then be heir so she doesn’t really give af about her love life just wants her son on the throne thought that was obvious
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 I understand the reasons for her actions but as a viewer she still comes off as petty to me. Too many ppl been talking to her ear including her father to get her to act this way
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 she kinda did over react to the sex thing. And she may be a bit jealous as hell due to her being forced to do her duties and the princess pretty much doing what she wants with who she wants with hardly any consequences
TV writers are making Daemon look worse than he actually is. Cut out the scenes of him hugging his daughters after Laena dies. Made him look like a bad dad when it's the total opposite in the book. Is one of the TV writers Mushroom? According to Mushroom, Daemon is suspected killing half of Westeros. Mushroom ratted on Daemon about sleeping with Rhaenyra. And Daemon was a suspect to Mushroom when it came to Rhea, Harwin, and Laenor's deaths. In the book, it's never mentioned who killed Rhea. For TV, they made sure it was Daemon. But we now know Larys is the one who killed Harwin and Lyonel. Why would Daemon kill Harwin? They're homeboys who fought together with the City Watch and Gold Cloaks. And Daemon fought next to Laenor and happens to be his nephew and brother-in-law. I swear if someone slips on a banana peel, Mushroom will find a way to blame it on Daemon.
@@Cavpal the book is written in the perspective of what they think happened yes so it is canon but the show is meant to be what actually happens since it’s not anyones opinions and George R R Martin is working on it
The hand of the king, Lionel Strong has 2 sons , Larys Strong, aka " The Spy Clubfoot Snitch", and Ser Harwin" Breakbones" Strong, the strongest Knight and Commander of the Knights Watch. He was the one in episode 5 that carried younger Rhaenyra on his shoulders to safety when Criston Cole killed Laenor's man, he was also the Knights' Watchman that caught Rhaenyra in the alley in Kings Landing when she was running, when she snuck out with Daemon. He's the father of all of Rhaenyra's children ( Laenor claims the children as his and they have the Valaryon/Targaryen name). It goes back to their sexual preferences and original agreement. Laenor gets to do what he wants, so does Rhaenyra. I was devastated when Lionel and Ser Harwin died in that fire😭😭, by Larys's doing, no less.. he's cruel and I hate his fugly face already!! He obviously gives zero f**KS, killing his father and brother like that.😡
I think Alicent's deal is that bastards were going to be put before her children in the line of succession. Even in the book Rhaneyra's children were normal looking without an apparent trace of Valyrian blood in them. When Alicent's children were full Valyrian looking, blond white hair and purple eyed.
She doesn't want to leave her children's lives to fate. Rhaenyra is a Valyrian married to a black Valyrian, but with dark haired white kids who we're told look like Harwin. Even over in Essos people know what's up. Alicent is also a traditional woman with certain morals. Rhaenyras adultery is simply unacceptable in and of itself. She has all but guaranteed war by having Harwin's bast-rds.
Larys just trying to obtain power. Much like the convo that Corlys had with Daemon about being second sons, Larys stood to inherit nothing really. His father was the hand and Harwin was the heir to Harrenhall. Not to mention his deformity (think Tyrion in this sense). His options are very limited. Essentially he has to make his own way how he sees fit and apparently he saw it fit to off his father and brother to achieve this goal lol
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 yeah we know. She’s still self righteous. Been pimped out by her own father to trap the king. She did what she was told and now she’s bitter af about it.
I think some fans think every character wants the Throne, Daemon doesn’t. You were introduced to Daemon as the villain but now fans need to realize everyone is a villain
When the maester proposed a C section, Daemon asked if the mother would survive and her replied no. It was subtle, but Daemon shook his head no to the C section after that. He chose the opposite of his brother.
I don't think Daemon cared whether he was having a boy or not. If Daemon had made the decision to have her killed they would have killed the wife immediately. So he must have made the decision not to kill his wife in order for her to have enough time to get up and go outside.
I'm happy that next season we're meeting lady Jeyne Arryn, one of the few gay female characters in the series, who is of course in the book too. And hopefully we'll see her lover lady Jessamyn.
@@technopirate304 Exactly what I said. It's pure envy. Rhaenyra thumbs her nose at the rules while Alicent is confined by them and thus why she constantly lashes out at Rhaenyra with her self-righteous drivel.
@@Stankonia3k it’s not just that if she can prove Rhayneras children are bastards her son will be heir to the throne not Rhaynera that’s like the whole point swear u r slow she doesn’t actually give af about Rhayneras sex life other than it can progress her sons way to the throne
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 I am fully aware of the consequences of Rhaenyra's children being proven to be bastards homie. We are talking about the root of Alicent's resentment towards Rhaenyra, which lies in the fact that her entire life has been confined by the patriachy while Rhaenyra has had the luxury skirting all the rules Alicent's been trapped by. Try and keep up since you supposedly so smart 🙄
Not thaaat true. I mean, in the books, the hightowers had some Valyrian blood on their veins. And there were cases like Rhaenys (Corlys Wife) that was part Baratheon and had dark hair. It is a technicality but still...
@@V_i_vi_an I thought that since it is said that the base of the hightower of old town is made of the same material Valyrian stonemason used, it was plausible that they could be related. Either that or that was the farthest their ships ever sailed as far as World of Ice and Fire tells. Either way, I'm no so sure so you could be right, still, what Rhaenyra did was the same as Cersei, it is somewhat of a similar principal, it's all fantasy after all.
Daemon is killed in a dragon fight over Harrenhal with Aemond, Alicent's second son, who also dies. Rhaenyra is eaten by her half-brother Aegon's dragon on Dragonstone.
I don’t think Daemon would risk her life. He did shake his head no but I don’t know how she got past him and why it took him so long to get to her though 🤷🏽♀️
If Larys really is an inspiration for Littlefinger then maybe he wants to be king. If he manipulates a civil war I think he plans to be the last man standing.
Ok I was talking to my mom and in discussing RHAENYRAs kids the oldest looks about 10 and they aged 10 years so could that be the first knights son and he doesn’t know it not this newest one the father of say her last two … we never saw her drink that drink
(19:53) honestly, no. alicent did not wish for that, she is surely do bad things but this is not really her fault and i'm sure that larys is going to use this against her in the future
Nah, she wanted it. She throws stones and then hides her hands. She's vile like her father. That's why she is so tight with that Clubfoot and Cole. They are all vile.
Alicent is definitely culpable bc she sent a dog whistle to Larys and he did what he interpreted that as a call for help. I bet she doesn't have him arrested?
While everyone else is going on about their lives, Alicent was literally manifesting a war the entire episode. Rhanerya tried to call a truce and squash the beef but the Queen refuses, it's like she wants to go to war.
Dude! He ain't no SIMP. He just killed his father and brother. He is NOW THE LORD of Harenhall! So he has a title, an estate and clout! And.. he has the Queens' ear and (as I am sure he perceives it) something to hold over her head if need be.
I don't get the impression that Allicent and Larys are sleeping together. I think she looks to him as her advisor, kind of like she has her own Hand.If she were sleeping with someone, I think it would be Ser Cristian, but after what happened with Rhanerya, don't think he would Sully his reputation again. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Allicent has not been with any but the King
Did anyone else realise Viserys has become just a figurehead. Alicent is who's really running things because why the fuck is Cole still a Kingsguard? And Harwin was immediately taken off as Commander of Citywatch? I knew Larys was going to be a problem when they introduced him in episode 3 and he chose to sit with the ladies to hear all the juice.
I think it's important to look at the events of this series from the perspective of the time period that inspires the work. This isn't a free love, 2022, open marriage, feminism time period. This is Middle Ages. People hate Alicent, but really, Alicent has been giving Rhaenyra great advice throughout this show and all Rhaenyra has done was scoff at it. Aemma says in episode 1 that a woman's battlefield is the birthing bed. She wasn't just giving us HER opinion, that's the opinion of the vast majority of women of that time. Regardless of how she found herself in her situation as queen, Alicent is very "become a quality woman, find quality husband, perpetuate the bloodline" minded. So when her friend whom she cares about is a smelly dragon rider who doesn't appear to take studies seriously (Episode 1), skips out on an arranged tour where all the high value men of Westeros come to deliver their husband sales pitch (Episode 3), "potentially" ruins her maidenhead (Episode 4), definitely ruined her maidenhead and puts a knight in a position where he'd get either castrated or killed (Episode 5) and then starts a bastard factory with the chief of police (Episode 6), it's kinda understandable why Alicent is angry and disappointed. On the last point of the Bastard Factory, what we have to remember is what Rhaenyra is doing is a big "Fuck the Septa" to the realm and an act of treason. Bastards cannot hold land or titles and Rhaenyra has made three and plans to name one heir to the throne. Remember the OG Game of Thrones and what happened when the realm found out Joffrey was a bastard? The realm went into a 5 way civil war. She's WILDIN. Only a fool would agree to Rhaenyra's betrothal proposition.
The king know them ain’t laenor kids but as Always trying to keep the peace keep it chill keep it cool I’m not starting up no fuss because he still loves his daughter but Alicent can see through this they look too much like her guard for no one to notice and that’s why she made that comment I’ll keep trying maybe one will look like you
I hope y'all got better at editing these by s2. Its important to show allll of the important scences which allows for longer videos vs these 60sec commercials😂 Its not forcing ppl to Patreon. Look at other newer GOT reactions. No useless GIFS either so they're longer AND we see the screen 🤦🏾♀️
I’m so sad Laena went out so soon I knew she was gonna die but dang. The Velaryons were dragon riders in old Valyria so she could’ve tamed Vhagar regardless. She was so cool!
The Velaryons were NOT dragonriders. Their power was always ships. They left Valyria long before even the Targaryens. The name Velaryon is derived from Valyrian. (The Westerosi called them Valyrians for so long it became their family name.) Very few Valyrian families were dragonlords. The Targs were only a minor dragonlord house, until they managed to outlast all others.
@@Diana734 she knows the people will want Aegon to rule no matter what. So Rhaenyra would be challenged. Just like Dany told Jon Snow...the people would want him to rule...and she would be challenged
@@Diana734 exactly...it goes beyond the paranoia that Otto instill in her. There is envy there. Rhaenyra thumbs her nose at the rules while Alicent is completely and totally confined by them. Hence her constant lashing out at Rhaenyra with her self-righteous drivel. Regardless of how one thinks shit is gonna play out, Rhaenyra proposed a very logical and equitable solution to try and quell tensions and preserve house Targaryen and Alicent's response was over my dead body, essentially choosing violence outright because that's the course they all are aware they are headed. That's deeper than I'm just trying to protect my kids. That's vindictiveness.
@@ltmorris2010 I don't believe her kids lives are in danger, Otto only told her that to brainwash her because he desperately wants his blood on the throne. Rhanerya may not be fully accepted by all but in the first episode it was stated that the only thing that could tear down the house of the dragon was itself. No matter what lords would commit treason the Targariyen house would always come out on top. Aegon doesn't want to be king so he would have no reason to challenge Rhaenyras claim. Alicent is literally manifesting a war right now. Rhanerya tried to squash the beef in suggesting that her son and Alicents daughter could rule together in the future but she refused, and now look all that💩talking she was doing has ended up with the hand and his heir assinated, she's losing control of a situation she started.
@@breburke7286 I understand why you would believe that but it goes back to a woman being on the throne. Otto was definitely playing the game but everything he said to Alicent when he left was true.
Rhany ands Leanor could’ve at least had one kid… damn it’s like he never hit lol… Alicent is shrewd and entitled but unfortunately she has a point… Rhany still my girl though but she ain’t making the right moves to secure her position
"Why do you care?". Well. In their world, and in our own some hundred years ago, bastards were something that was, let's say frowned upon. Marriage was a sacred thing (Atleast officially) and having kids outside of that marriage was a no-no. That's not mentioning lines of succession to the throne etc. Really thought you might have worked that out already. This show isn't set in our 2022 world, lol.
She wanna see what color hair the latest babe has I’m guessing. I don’t think Rhaenyra should have left the castle though. She’s just confirming the rumors IMO. She should have stayed there as a BIG F*you to the gossipers and especially her “stepmother”.
Alicent : When you're just trying to call out the family th0t, raise an actual man, and hold the realm together through male primogeniture but the audience hates you. Nah but lol jokes aside Rhaenyra totally made that offer out of the kindness of her golden heart and pure generosity. It totally wasn't because she is trying to entrench the claim of her illegitimate son. No sir. A flimsy marriage alliance is not gonna save Prince Aegon & Aemond’s lives if Rhaenyra’s spawn by Harwin takes the throne & ppl start calling him what he really is. Blackcest fans swearing this time the Girlboss Queen they support won't turn out to be a complete psycho. Insert Always Sunny in Philadelphia Pepe Silva gif.
Alicent isn't sleeping with Larys Strong. And of course Alicent is up in Rhaenyra's business. Right now, NONE of Rhaenyra's bastard kids have any rightful claim to the throne. By all rights, Rhaenyra should be either put to death or banished for her lies and infidelity -- no matter if her husband was okay with it. That's just how things went back in the day. 🤷♀
But Rhaenyra's kids claim is through their mother, not their father. Hence why when one would ascend the throne they would change their name from Valeyon to Targeryan. It shouldn't matter who the father is but of course due to the time portrayed it's scandalous to have had children from a man other than her husband.
@@zanetapenny8388 The kids are Harwin Strong's kids, not Laenor Velaryon - meaning the whole "they would change their name from Valeyon to Targeryan" doesn't apply here. The kids have no claim, even through their mother, because they are bastards, born from an adulterous affair, and bastards cannot be Kings. You see, adultery can be grounds for death/banishment in Westeros when PROVEN. Also, Rhaenyra's lying about her kids royal lineage can be considered treason and also grounds for death/banishment.
@@reebasrants2636 literally don’t get how many slow people there are Alicent doesn’t give af about Rhayneras sex life other than using it to get rid of her so Aegon can be king
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 Actually, Alicent is and SHOULD BE concerned because people will forget whispers about Rhaenyra's children being bastards without any claims to the throne ONLY if the other side (Alicent's entire family and supporters) are called liars and completely wiped out. So, yes, Alicent has a REAL reason to believe her and her children's lives are in danger because Rhaenyra, by her own hand, made taking out Alicent and her kids her ONLY option now. So, yeah, Rhaeynra's having sex with Harwin and producing bastards is a really big and important factor.
Literally every reactor ever : Alicent you mad ya trifling self had to lay under that old musty kang while my boo Rhae Rhae was having a hot gurl summer!! Slay!! Don't be hatin cuz ya man got trash D! Ser Crispin ya stank azz still mad over a one night stand 10yrs ago? Boy bye!! 👋 As much as I think the Ser InceI jokes have always been hilarious and it's a trip watching it catch on in the mainstream, I do wonder how many people truly understand the concept of "not transplanting 21st century sensibilities on a medieval knight". The world in which Criston lives, he is doing the honorable thing. But ngl the memes are def hilarious. Men when you say no once gifs 😂. Gets rejected & starts a coup before it was cool 😂. Someone tweeted "dude would be a menace if they had podcasts" & I spat out water thinking Criston on Fresh and Fit 😂
Larys limped so Little Finger could walk 😂
LOL
Ffs 😂😂
No u didn't 💀💀💀
Purr I guess 😭😭
Larys and Alicent are not doing the dirty! 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sir Criston had me deep breathing, I don’t like the way he was treating Rhaenyras boys. It takes a SMALL person to hurt a child because of their PARENTS🤬
Every single line he had in this episode, every single appearance of his, made my blood boil lol I hate him
Daddy Breakbones gave that fool some act right
had me screaming at the screen, i hate that man lmaooo
He's a whole weirdo. He hates the children because he felt slightly by their mother. A grown man hating on children. He and Aliecent are nasty vile people.
I hate him
Daemon asked about Laena and not the child unlike his brother who asked if the child could be saved. He doesn't care about it being a boy as long he or she is a dragon rider
Yes but its not the same.
Alicent is not sleeping with Clubfoot, he is her spy and he gives her information.
Not clubfoot 💀🫂
@@TheGassy92 That’s actually his nickname from the book
@@technopirate304 lmao is it really?!
@@TheGassy92 yes it is
It’s not Cripplefinger?
I don’t think Damond was gonna do it I think he actually really cared for Lena
I think he had a weird relationship with her I don’t believe he truly loved her but viewed her more like a companion
In the books he genuinely loved her so I don’t think he would’ve chosen the baby over her
@@sashaparrish228 but the books are from people that don’t know them very well this is canon since George helped them make the show and you can tell he never loved her he likes her yes but the only person Daemon truly loves is himself
Daemon shook his head “no” to not do the c-section. He made the opposite decision of Viserys. But Laena took matters into her own hands. A scene of Daemon comforting his daughters after Laena’s death was removed from this episode. I wish they would have kept it in to show Daemon truly loved his wife and his daughters (despite showing more interest in Baela who has a dragon).
I don’t know nothing about birthing no babies. How were they gonna get that child out her womb after they passed? 😢
Tasha is so funny. I wonder if Alicent has her sons with long hair to show people how they're "more Targaryen" than Rhaenyra's sons.
Na that’s just typically how Targaryens have their hair
Daemon wasn't going to have Laena cut open. Likely both Laena and the child were going to die anyway. She chose to go out as a dragon rider by fire. A dragon riders death comes from a defeat in battle. The birthing bed is a woman's battlefield. Laena was defeated and she went out with the honour of dragon fire. Daemon probably wouldn't have let her go. That's why she went out there by herself.
I feel so bad for Harwin though. I kind of want to cry. He didn't deserve that. I'm so sad right now, man. :(😭
Me too. He loved his sons and died saving his dad. I was shocked that he died so soon.
Harwin was a munch, don't @ me
@@elite7329 How was he a munch? i don't get it.🤔😒
@@imerie-kavellelee4278 exactly you can’t be a munch after the princess was with him for literally a decade if those are all his kids
Same...he was my fav and I loved him with Nyra and the kids
Damn, yall good it took me a while to notice that King Viserys left arm is missing! 🤣
I missed it because I was blinded by the rage I have for Alicent and Criston...I had to go back and watch again
Daemon was absolutely not going to sacrifice her. Even if she wasn’t Rhaenyra, he loved her - in his way.
Absolutely living for Tasha’s reaction!!
The Queen's request was so she could do the hair check (Ned Stark was going to patent it, but didn't live long enough)
Actually it’s implied that it’s the “hands” doing. Otto Hightower probably runs things instead of Alicent. Hence why she’s shocked when she sees rhanaerya
Laena in the episode said she wanted to die a dragon rider and she did. Ugh that scene was so sad.
Gives new meaning to “The seed is Strong…
Have you guys noticed that Alicent’s daughter seems to be a dreamer? “He has eyes but I don’t believe he can see” i think it’s about Visarys not being able to see that Rhaenyra’s sons are bastards. Than after Alicent said to Aemond : “you will have a dragon one day” Helaena said “he will have to close an eye” ( foreshadow?) and one more thing. She made a comment about the last ring :”the last ring has no legs at all” . I think that the “ ring” is actually a metaphore for king( the last king has no legs at all) is it about Bran? Or maybe some accident for one of the kids?
One of her sons get his eye cut from one of his cousins because they pick a fight with them calling them strongs and bastards. That’s why Alicent charges with the knife because she demands an eye for an eye
Why you went reading on Wikipedia and come back here acting like you inspector gadget reading the clues😂
I wonder if dad Daemon learned how to braid hair ... I like that fan lore so I think he did.
Ser Criston provoking Ser Harwin to hit him, proves his point and made Harwin look bad. That's why Criston laughs and says "thought as much". It all but confirmed that Harwin was the father and it got him kicked off the City Watch. Alicent is not fucking Larys. She just gets advice from him. He gives her counsel, not dick.
What you saw in the episode is a separate fire. During Aegon's Conquest, he and his sister-wives burned Harrenhal. This is something else. With both Ser Lyonel and Ser Harwin dead, Ser Larys becomes the new lord of Harrenhal. He also opens the door for a new Hand of the King to be named.
You noticed Aegon and Ammon both wear green like their mother. Allicent made her bed and she has to lie in it. 🤷🏽♀️ Usual Suspects MidEvil Edition.
Laena’s death legit made me cry
Daemon was asking about his wife so I don't think he was gonna risk his wife's life. I think he really loved her in his own way.
This scene is the same as Viserys with his 1st wife but the only difference is Daemon would of choose his wife over the child.
Love is a strong word he definitely liked her and viewed her as a companion
So than tell me, why did laena said to him, that she knows deep down she was not the first/right choice for a wife for him and she found peace with that? So, here is the thing, I think that he loved/liked her, but she is not the one for him. Laena described his depression by telling him that he stays just inside reading the same books all over again and that he can‘t sleep. Futhermore, she says that life has disappointed him, because he is not in that place he really wanted to be, beside his brother married with rhaenyra. Daemon is unhappy and rhaeneyra is unhappy too, their fire is out, bceause they are seperated from each other. You will see next episode what I mean for sure.
@@legolasokatti4281 not just any books, books about other dragon lords Daemons ancestors who he’s obsessed with they are the reason he’s so ambitious he wants to be like them famous warriors pure blooded Valyrian conquerors so that’s one of the main takes I got from that when she said he’s angry where life took him I imagine she was referring to him not being a spectacular king or conqueror he didn’t want to live a life of a married man even with Rhaynera as he said he wanted to bring glory back to his house and he thought he could achieve that with her
Vhagar’s debut😩👌
queen mother
“It’s not your coochie”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rhaneys is half Baratheon. Her mother was a Baratheon. As long you have some Targaryen blood you can ride a dragon. Vaserys was chosen because he was man not because he full is blooded Targaryen
I think Rhaenys was only a quarter Baratheon. Her mother Jocelyn Baratheon was the half sister of Jaehaerys I, and their mother was Alyssa Velaryon.
Daemon answered the question, he said no. After he asked if the mother would survive and he heard the answer, he said no.
Frustration & jealousy have caused Ser Cristin & Alicent's personalities to completely change! They are both weak.
I swear everyone was petty this episode besides the King lol
Not really Alicent knows if she can prove the kids are bastards they will all be disinherited including Rhaynera so her son would then be heir so she doesn’t really give af about her love life just wants her son on the throne thought that was obvious
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 I understand the reasons for her actions but as a viewer she still comes off as petty to me. Too many ppl been talking to her ear including her father to get her to act this way
@@012gage it’s not petty if there’s a good reason it’s only petty if you have a massive overreaction to something tiny
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 she kinda did over react to the sex thing. And she may be a bit jealous as hell due to her being forced to do her duties and the princess pretty much doing what she wants with who she wants with hardly any consequences
@@012gage no she didn’t overreact she’s trying to get the king to see reason and disinherit her so Aegon can be king what???
Alicent petty af. Grabbing babies fresh out the womb to see who the baby daddy is.
My boy Viserys is still kicking Y’all. 💃🏽
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TV writers are making Daemon look worse than he actually is. Cut out the scenes of him hugging his daughters after Laena dies. Made him look like a bad dad when it's the total opposite in the book. Is one of the TV writers Mushroom?
According to Mushroom, Daemon is suspected killing half of Westeros. Mushroom ratted on Daemon about sleeping with Rhaenyra. And Daemon was a suspect to Mushroom when it came to Rhea, Harwin, and Laenor's deaths.
In the book, it's never mentioned who killed Rhea. For TV, they made sure it was Daemon. But we now know Larys is the one who killed Harwin and Lyonel. Why would Daemon kill Harwin? They're homeboys who fought together with the City Watch and Gold Cloaks. And Daemon fought next to Laenor and happens to be his nephew and brother-in-law.
I swear if someone slips on a banana peel, Mushroom will find a way to blame it on Daemon.
Cap Daemon isn’t a nice guy and this show is what he was like it’s canon since George is working on it
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 so the books written by Martin aren't canon? wat
@@Cavpal the book is written in the perspective of what they think happened yes so it is canon but the show is meant to be what actually happens since it’s not anyones opinions and George R R Martin is working on it
The hand of the king, Lionel Strong has 2 sons , Larys Strong, aka " The Spy Clubfoot Snitch", and Ser Harwin" Breakbones" Strong, the strongest Knight and Commander of the Knights Watch. He was the one in episode 5 that carried younger Rhaenyra on his shoulders to safety when Criston Cole killed Laenor's man, he was also the Knights' Watchman that caught Rhaenyra in the alley in Kings Landing when she was running, when she snuck out with Daemon. He's the father of all of Rhaenyra's children ( Laenor claims the children as his and they have the Valaryon/Targaryen name). It goes back to their sexual preferences and original agreement. Laenor gets to do what he wants, so does Rhaenyra. I was devastated when Lionel and Ser Harwin died in that fire😭😭, by Larys's doing, no less.. he's cruel and I hate his fugly face already!! He obviously gives zero f**KS, killing his father and brother like that.😡
I think Alicent's deal is that bastards were going to be put before her children in the line of succession. Even in the book Rhaneyra's children were normal looking without an apparent trace of Valyrian blood in them. When Alicent's children were full Valyrian looking, blond white hair and purple eyed.
She doesn't want to leave her children's lives to fate. Rhaenyra is a Valyrian married to a black Valyrian, but with dark haired white kids who we're told look like Harwin. Even over in Essos people know what's up. Alicent is also a traditional woman with certain morals. Rhaenyras adultery is simply unacceptable in and of itself. She has all but guaranteed war by having Harwin's bast-rds.
Aegon the Conqueror was the first one to burn Haren the Black in Harrenhaal during his conquest.
"When the sun sets your line shall end" is the hardest line in the entire story.
Viserys out here looking like the crypt keeper missing his whole hand. Idk if it fell off or he chopped it off lol
Larys just trying to obtain power. Much like the convo that Corlys had with Daemon about being second sons, Larys stood to inherit nothing really. His father was the hand and Harwin was the heir to Harrenhall. Not to mention his deformity (think Tyrion in this sense). His options are very limited. Essentially he has to make his own way how he sees fit and apparently he saw it fit to off his father and brother to achieve this goal lol
Alicent the Self-Righteous Heifer smh
No it’s because if Rhayneras children are found out to be bastards she will be disinherited or worse so Aegon can be king god you lot are slow
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 yeah we know. She’s still self righteous. Been pimped out by her own father to trap the king. She did what she was told and now she’s bitter af about it.
I think some fans think every character wants the Throne, Daemon doesn’t. You were introduced to Daemon as the villain but now fans need to realize everyone is a villain
GOT got us all suspicious 😂
Who told you Daemon doesn't want the Throne? Did an insider tell you?
Of course Daemon wants the throne lol. Throne = power. Daemon just wouldn’t give up pure brotherly love for it.
@@anitelufalemei4200 he wants Power; power doesn’t equal the throne
When the maester proposed a C section, Daemon asked if the mother would survive and her replied no. It was subtle, but Daemon shook his head no to the C section after that. He chose the opposite of his brother.
I don't think Daemon cared whether he was having a boy or not. If Daemon had made the decision to have her killed they would have killed the wife immediately. So he must have made the decision not to kill his wife in order for her to have enough time to get up and go outside.
If u see daemon's head you can see him saying no. He wasnt going to do it and he didnt care about the baby being a boy or not
I'm happy that next season we're meeting lady Jeyne Arryn, one of the few gay female characters in the series, who is of course in the book too. And hopefully we'll see her lover lady Jessamyn.
Alicent is not 'sleeping' with anyone... not even her husband.
That’s why she mad. Rhaenyra out in them street’s getting her swerve on.
@@technopirate304 Exactly what I said. It's pure envy. Rhaenyra thumbs her nose at the rules while Alicent is confined by them and thus why she constantly lashes out at Rhaenyra with her self-righteous drivel.
I don't know about that something is telling me she is/will give it to that rat bastard Cole...I hate that guy
@@Stankonia3k it’s not just that if she can prove Rhayneras children are bastards her son will be heir to the throne not Rhaynera that’s like the whole point swear u r slow she doesn’t actually give af about Rhayneras sex life other than it can progress her sons way to the throne
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 I am fully aware of the consequences of Rhaenyra's children being proven to be bastards homie. We are talking about the root of Alicent's resentment towards Rhaenyra, which lies in the fact that her entire life has been confined by the patriachy while Rhaenyra has had the luxury skirting all the rules Alicent's been trapped by. Try and keep up since you supposedly so smart 🙄
Good point Viserys and Queen Allie could have had kids with darker hair with her genes. They got lucky they all have the silver hair
Not thaaat true. I mean, in the books, the hightowers had some Valyrian blood on their veins. And there were cases like Rhaenys (Corlys Wife) that was part Baratheon and had dark hair. It is a technicality but still...
Rhaenys was born with black hair cause her Baretheon beat out her Targeryan genes, but from 2 Valarian descendants it would be 99%
Exactly. There is dominant and recessive genes in play here. So one have to assume that the hightowers had some of the Valyrian recessive gene's.
@@marcomendez5412 not true, Hightowers has 0% dragon blood/valyrian blood, they're an ancient Andalos house.
@@V_i_vi_an I thought that since it is said that the base of the hightower of old town is made of the same material Valyrian stonemason used, it was plausible that they could be related. Either that or that was the farthest their ships ever sailed as far as World of Ice and Fire tells. Either way, I'm no so sure so you could be right, still, what Rhaenyra did was the same as Cersei, it is somewhat of a similar principal, it's all fantasy after all.
Harrenhall was burned by Aegon and his dragon during the conquest. Since then it was called cursed. The fire Larys planned there is just another one
Daemon is killed in a dragon fight over Harrenhal with Aemond, Alicent's second son, who also dies. Rhaenyra is eaten by her half-brother Aegon's dragon on Dragonstone.
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Yes girl, yes. This happened.
Great take you guys - I really enjoyed your reaction
I don’t think Daemon would risk her life. He did shake his head no but I don’t know how she got past him and why it took him so long to get to her though 🤷🏽♀️
Yes. That part was weird to me.
If Larys really is an inspiration for Littlefinger then maybe he wants to be king. If he manipulates a civil war I think he plans to be the last man standing.
Ok I was talking to my mom and in discussing RHAENYRAs kids the oldest looks about 10 and they aged 10 years so could that be the first knights son and he doesn’t know it not this newest one the father of say her last two … we never saw her drink that drink
They are all harwins. The timing wouldn’t be right for it to be coles since there’s a skip between 4 and 5 she would be showing signs of pregnancy
(19:53) honestly, no. alicent did not wish for that, she is surely do bad things but this is not really her fault and i'm sure that larys is going to use this against her in the future
Nah, she wanted it. She throws stones and then hides her hands. She's vile like her father. That's why she is so tight with that Clubfoot and Cole. They are all vile.
Alicent is the queen she could have had him seized by the king's guard. It would have been the cripple's word against the queen.
Alicent is definitely culpable bc she sent a dog whistle to Larys and he did what he interpreted that as a call for help. I bet she doesn't have him arrested?
While everyone else is going on about their lives, Alicent was literally manifesting a war the entire episode. Rhanerya tried to call a truce and squash the beef but the Queen refuses, it's like she wants to go to war.
Dude! He ain't no SIMP. He just killed his father and brother. He is NOW THE LORD of Harenhall! So he has a title, an estate and clout! And.. he has the Queens' ear and (as I am sure he perceives it) something to hold over her head if need be.
Larys ain't simpin. He's pimpin.
I don't get the impression that Allicent and Larys are sleeping together. I think she looks to him as her advisor, kind of like she has her own Hand.If she were sleeping with someone, I think it would be Ser Cristian, but after what happened with Rhanerya, don't think he would Sully his reputation again. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Allicent has not been with any but the King
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Love your reactions!!!!
Did anyone else realise Viserys has become just a figurehead. Alicent is who's really running things because why the fuck is Cole still a Kingsguard? And Harwin was immediately taken off as Commander of Citywatch? I knew Larys was going to be a problem when they introduced him in episode 3 and he chose to sit with the ladies to hear all the juice.
I think it's important to look at the events of this series from the perspective of the time period that inspires the work. This isn't a free love, 2022, open marriage, feminism time period. This is Middle Ages. People hate Alicent, but really, Alicent has been giving Rhaenyra great advice throughout this show and all Rhaenyra has done was scoff at it.
Aemma says in episode 1 that a woman's battlefield is the birthing bed. She wasn't just giving us HER opinion, that's the opinion of the vast majority of women of that time. Regardless of how she found herself in her situation as queen, Alicent is very "become a quality woman, find quality husband, perpetuate the bloodline" minded. So when her friend whom she cares about is a smelly dragon rider who doesn't appear to take studies seriously (Episode 1), skips out on an arranged tour where all the high value men of Westeros come to deliver their husband sales pitch (Episode 3), "potentially" ruins her maidenhead (Episode 4), definitely ruined her maidenhead and puts a knight in a position where he'd get either castrated or killed (Episode 5) and then starts a bastard factory with the chief of police (Episode 6), it's kinda understandable why Alicent is angry and disappointed.
On the last point of the Bastard Factory, what we have to remember is what Rhaenyra is doing is a big "Fuck the Septa" to the realm and an act of treason. Bastards cannot hold land or titles and Rhaenyra has made three and plans to name one heir to the throne. Remember the OG Game of Thrones and what happened when the realm found out Joffrey was a bastard? The realm went into a 5 way civil war. She's WILDIN. Only a fool would agree to Rhaenyra's betrothal proposition.
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The king know them ain’t laenor kids but as Always trying to keep the peace keep it chill keep it cool I’m not starting up no fuss because he still loves his daughter but Alicent can see through this they look too much like her guard for no one to notice and that’s why she made that comment I’ll keep trying maybe one will look like you
No cuz Alicent is the embodiment of bothered because of something that don’t effect you. And Otto got her scared for her kids lives for no reason
Laenor will die in the next episode by Qarl Norrey orchastrated by Daemon. it's hinted in the book.
Alicent and criston had me heated this whole half of the season! I didn't even dislike Cersei this much!!
Tre! You should do some white dreads for Halloween yo!
Time for the older Rhaenyra Targaryen and older Alicent Hightower to take center stage!
I hope y'all got better at editing these by s2. Its important to show allll of the important scences which allows for longer videos vs these 60sec commercials😂 Its not forcing ppl to Patreon. Look at other newer GOT reactions. No useless GIFS either so they're longer AND we see the screen 🤦🏾♀️
I’m so sad Laena went out so soon I knew she was gonna die but dang. The Velaryons were dragon riders in old Valyria so she could’ve tamed Vhagar regardless. She was so cool!
The Velaryons were NOT dragonriders. Their power was always ships. They left Valyria long before even the Targaryens. The name Velaryon is derived from Valyrian. (The Westerosi called them Valyrians for so long it became their family name.) Very few Valyrian families were dragonlords. The Targs were only a minor dragonlord house, until they managed to outlast all others.
@@AzkuulaKtaktu gonna say this they outlasted because of the dragon dreams
Yall really don't see why Alicent is so pressed? I don't like her either but it's literally her own kids lives on the line.
If she was that pressed she would have agreed to the marriage between her daughter and Rhaenyra's oldest.
@@Diana734 she knows the people will want Aegon to rule no matter what. So Rhaenyra would be challenged. Just like Dany told Jon Snow...the people would want him to rule...and she would be challenged
@@Diana734 exactly...it goes beyond the paranoia that Otto instill in her. There is envy there. Rhaenyra thumbs her nose at the rules while Alicent is completely and totally confined by them. Hence her constant lashing out at Rhaenyra with her self-righteous drivel. Regardless of how one thinks shit is gonna play out, Rhaenyra proposed a very logical and equitable solution to try and quell tensions and preserve house Targaryen and Alicent's response was over my dead body, essentially choosing violence outright because that's the course they all are aware they are headed. That's deeper than I'm just trying to protect my kids. That's vindictiveness.
@@ltmorris2010 I don't believe her kids lives are in danger, Otto only told her that to brainwash her because he desperately wants his blood on the throne. Rhanerya may not be fully accepted by all but in the first episode it was stated that the only thing that could tear down the house of the dragon was itself. No matter what lords would commit treason the Targariyen house would always come out on top. Aegon doesn't want to be king so he would have no reason to challenge Rhaenyras claim. Alicent is literally manifesting a war right now. Rhanerya tried to squash the beef in suggesting that her son and Alicents daughter could rule together in the future but she refused, and now look all that💩talking she was doing has ended up with the hand and his heir assinated, she's losing control of a situation she started.
@@breburke7286 I understand why you would believe that but it goes back to a woman being on the throne. Otto was definitely playing the game but everything he said to Alicent when he left was true.
Nahh Larys is more like Varys mixed with Ramsey and Tyrion with a hint of Baelish.
His name is a combo of both: Littlefinger + Varys = Larys. I also think he’s a dash of Tyrion.
Rhany ands Leanor could’ve at least had one kid… damn it’s like he never hit lol… Alicent is shrewd and entitled but unfortunately she has a point… Rhany still my girl though but she ain’t making the right moves to secure her position
The tullys is sams family, jons bestie
Tully is ned stark's wife's family name. Sorry her name has slipped my mind. Sam's family name is Tarly
@@MezzieBoi ahhh ok thanks
"Why do you care?". Well. In their world, and in our own some hundred years ago, bastards were something that was, let's say frowned upon. Marriage was a sacred thing (Atleast officially) and having kids outside of that marriage was a no-no. That's not mentioning lines of succession to the throne etc. Really thought you might have worked that out already. This show isn't set in our 2022 world, lol.
why u blurr the movie so much
So they don’t get a strike
🤨🤨🤔Interesting reaction.
They were valarians
yes the hand of the king had two sons. i am surprise you just now realized that. you guys pick up on things pretty good.
Alicent is not fucking Larys.
She wanna see what color hair the latest babe has I’m guessing. I don’t think Rhaenyra should have left the castle though. She’s just confirming the rumors IMO. She should have stayed there as a BIG F*you to the gossipers and especially her “stepmother”.
Alicent : When you're just trying to call out the family th0t, raise an actual man, and hold the realm together through male primogeniture but the audience hates you. Nah but lol jokes aside Rhaenyra totally made that offer out of the kindness of her golden heart and pure generosity. It totally wasn't because she is trying to entrench the claim of her illegitimate son. No sir. A flimsy marriage alliance is not gonna save Prince Aegon & Aemond’s lives if Rhaenyra’s spawn by Harwin takes the throne & ppl start calling him what he really is. Blackcest fans swearing this time the Girlboss Queen they support won't turn out to be a complete psycho. Insert Always Sunny in Philadelphia Pepe Silva gif.
Layis, wants to be with alasine.
Alicent isn't sleeping with Larys Strong. And of course Alicent is up in Rhaenyra's business. Right now, NONE of Rhaenyra's bastard kids have any rightful claim to the throne. By all rights, Rhaenyra should be either put to death or banished for her lies and infidelity -- no matter if her husband was okay with it. That's just how things went back in the day. 🤷♀
But Rhaenyra's kids claim is through their mother, not their father. Hence why when one would ascend the throne they would change their name from Valeyon to Targeryan. It shouldn't matter who the father is but of course due to the time portrayed it's scandalous to have had children from a man other than her husband.
@@zanetapenny8388 The kids are Harwin Strong's kids, not Laenor Velaryon - meaning the whole "they would change their name from Valeyon to Targeryan" doesn't apply here. The kids have no claim, even through their mother, because they are bastards, born from an adulterous affair, and bastards cannot be Kings. You see, adultery can be grounds for death/banishment in Westeros when PROVEN. Also, Rhaenyra's lying about her kids royal lineage can be considered treason and also grounds for death/banishment.
@@reebasrants2636 literally don’t get how many slow people there are Alicent doesn’t give af about Rhayneras sex life other than using it to get rid of her so Aegon can be king
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 Actually, Alicent is and SHOULD BE concerned because people will forget whispers about Rhaenyra's children being bastards without any claims to the throne ONLY if the other side (Alicent's entire family and supporters) are called liars and completely wiped out. So, yes, Alicent has a REAL reason to believe her and her children's lives are in danger because Rhaenyra, by her own hand, made taking out Alicent and her kids her ONLY option now. So, yeah, Rhaeynra's having sex with Harwin and producing bastards is a really big and important factor.
@@reebasrants2636 the kids are Harwin's but Laenor claims them as his hence they are not bastards
I think her older son is probably Criston’s. We didn’t never see her drink that special tea to help get rid of the baby. Maybe it’s his?
Literally every reactor ever : Alicent you mad ya trifling self had to lay under that old musty kang while my boo Rhae Rhae was having a hot gurl summer!! Slay!! Don't be hatin cuz ya man got trash D! Ser Crispin ya stank azz still mad over a one night stand 10yrs ago? Boy bye!! 👋
As much as I think the Ser InceI jokes have always been hilarious and it's a trip watching it catch on in the mainstream, I do wonder how many people truly understand the concept of "not transplanting 21st century sensibilities on a medieval knight". The world in which Criston lives, he is doing the honorable thing.
But ngl the memes are def hilarious. Men when you say no once gifs 😂. Gets rejected & starts a coup before it was cool 😂. Someone tweeted "dude would be a menace if they had podcasts" & I spat out water thinking Criston on Fresh and Fit 😂
Rhyansh, an daemon,.getting together. 😜
I understand Cristons bitterness, I just think he shouldn’t involve her kids
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Yall need to stop D riding Rhaenyra.
Rhaenyra is the biggest villain on television right now. Love the low IQ analysis, by the way. 💘
you're gonna call someone low IQ but then say something stupid like "Rhaenyra is the biggest villain on television right now?" ok werk.
Cringe.
Bye, Felicia. 💅🏼
Pathetic troll. What a sad little life you must lead.
So silly