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TWO TOILET FLANGES INSTALLED ON CONCRETE FLOOR
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2019
- I had to complete a couple of toilet flange installs on a concrete floor. Check it out
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TWO TOILET FLANGES INSTALLED ON CONCRETE FLOOR
CB1 you taught me another trick brother. I have installed thousands of tapcons and I never thought to use duster to blow out the holes. Nice!! Thank you my friend.
I learned it from tap con vid on youtube. a game changer.
I use a turkey baster to blow the holes out. : )
CB in the house!! Great vid
In da House house house! lol
i suggest using the stainless steel tapcons, the blue ones always end up rusting after a while even with that coating on them. makes it easier for the next guy if he need to take out the flange. i also had a question, in a perfect world, would you always have the flange above the finished floor (like in this video) or flush with the finished floor (and why)?
Oh wow. I like the sounds of that
That is the biggest problem in new construction floors are not level putting in tubs in during rough in is a pain the builders always make it our problem it never falls back on the framers or the concrete and it always shows up in the final product when the floors are not level for the toilets
yup. concrete guy got em good from day one. fighting it all the way to the end.
Fkin concrete in the basement not being level has been a nightmare for me on multiple jobs.
Came here to see a toilet flange installed on a concrete floor. I see you've got some kind flooring you are installing on. Im installing a toilet one a concrete slab in my garage - no flooring just a painted slab. Talked to a plumber and he said i need to chisel around the waste pipe so the flange would not set up off of the floor.
How is he gonna get the toilet mount bolts into the flange slots that are on the front and back?
Wayne, I prefer the side slots. Much stronger than the adjustable. Just make sure flange is set correctly.
I was thinking that the whole way through. There's nothing to hold those bolts down with the side notches unless I am missing something but that's what the slots are for.
Clear basicd and to the point thanks man. I do this in a lot of rentals and i couldn't remember if i could set it above the concrete or if i had to grind it out.
Glad it helped
I honestly do not trust setting a flange that high. It requires you to really crank down on toilet bolts and can be wobbly. I never like the flange coming up past floor more than an 1/8” or a little more but thats me. Others do different things
Weed eater line works great in the hole to alow the Tapcon to have a better grip.
Charles McADORY , good idea. I carry some #12 and #14 solid wire for the same purpose.
geeze, I forgot that trick. I could of used it big time.
dam i forgot that one
I know this is just about setting the flange but people should be reminded to clean all the dust off the bottom of the toilet before installing the wax ring (they often come dusty from the factory) or it may not adhere 100% and you'll be called back for a slow leak and have to reinstall.
True Chris. Good tip.
A street flange goes into the hub of a fitting where’s a regular closet flange glues into the exsisting pipe ?
I use my Milwaukee cordless vacuum. Got to get the dust out!
a must. its a game changer when done properly. Just saw tapcon vid.....they suggest it for sure.
Sir, What size of driver bit and screw you used?
I forget....apologies.
Hi i seen in the first video that u used screw with big head would not that cause any issue ? thx
no sir.
How a bout just drill some new holes in flange? with proper size bit?
In the second install, it seemed like the flange socked down to the floor quite a bit when you put the tapcons in. Is it ok for the plastic flange to be bent down like that after the glue was dried? Not criticizing just had a problem once before when screwing a plastic flange down to a plywood floor (where the bottom of the flange was flush to the wood) and it cracked. Didn't seem like it got over-tightened but there was a crack. Thx
I have a flange the floor is finished concrete n the flange us lije quarter inch off floor n u can't set a toilet flat now I think it should be cut off n put a new flange n put it flat to the floor now my gf cousin says it looks normal n I said but u can't set a toilet flat n u gotta use 2 wax rings n so I just dnt understand how he says that it looks good to him but still can't set a toilet flat am I wrong ?
your good.
what?? , no million dollar contractor with the 24" pipe wrench helping you out on this one?.Nice work Cb, love those tapcons screws. i got that milwaukee cut off tool, works like a charm
JB he will show up if i need him for sure....lol.
chuck, instead of using an inside fit 3" i want to use the outside slip on 4x3. My problem is i only have 1.5" depth from the concrete to butt up against the 90 in the rough in under the floor. can i trim the bottom of my flange to make it work with that height?
Whats with the massive gaps under the trim skirting boards ?
battling a bad pour from concrete company from day one...corner trim coming so I hear.
@@ChuckBarron That's gonna be some big quater round !!!
2x4 corners....lol
lol, it's kind of in style to use large format baseboard now, without quarter round at all. say 3 to 5" tall plain boards.
I still like profiled baseboard and quarter round both...
Perfect job! Almost! Everything you did was perfect, but u could have made it super perfect but changing the supply stop to a Dahl. Nice.
get me some dahl valves....pronto...
www.dahlvalve.com/dahl-Manufacturers-Representatives-List.php
Go there
thanks dave.
Online..Dahl seems to have some quality valves, I haven't ordered/tried any yet. I'm still a brass craft guy, but Dahl is appealing.
Dahl kicks ass. It is I install. Thx.
Glue it on? If that ever needs to come out it's a big Sawzall mess.
I do a lot of old rent house's toilet replacements.
Everyone is going to the glued vinyl planking and floors are never ever level.
Wood shims work better for me than the plastic ones.
What do you use?
what ever i can get my hands on...
Fantastic I learn something new thanks
appreciate that.
looks like they just slammed laminate planks over-top the existing mess... I hear birdies going (cheap cheap cheap cheap)
trace outer flange diameter on flooring centered with pipe, cut it out with the oscillating tool so the flange sets down into the flooring. make a shim out of pvc or other waterproof material so it's level with flooring and can be bolted down tight to the concrete.
That may be a good candidate to try out some flexible/re-usable flange gaskets... never used one to this day, but who knows :)
I've framed floor joists and bowed plywood, cement board and others to make up 1.5" height in 6' span out of level bathrooms, so the whole toilet area is flush and level on any type of finish flooring... yeah, as "custom" as you can get, it took 5x the time and labor..... The end result was tile flush with the existing finished wood flooring (late 1930's home) and toilet level and flush to floor :)
not many folks wants to pay for that caliber of work and time it takes, nor does anyone want to do such drawn out labor.
the floor was floating all over the place....
you have the quality of work that I grew up seeing from my grandpa / his sons..they built homes for people/themselves that are still in good shape today w/ no leaks ..& mostly used hand tools to do it..I use modern tools but I take my time & do it right like the Old days
Great video CB👍. What is proper height for toilet flange to tile finish? Is it between flush and 1/2” ??
So is it preferable to set the flange after tile is laid? Doing a reno job on concrete slab and have to redo the drain anyway so just wanted to see what you thought about order of operations given the choice. Thanks Chuck!
either or.....done both ways.
We always set our flange even with floor. I’ve been a contractor for over 20 years and It definitely could be done either way but our reasoning for installing flush with the floor is because when it’s time to change out the tile it’s so much easier to just rip out the tile without having to worry about tile under the flange but in his case it’s a floating floor. I think the toilet sits better also but just my personal opinion.
I've always set the flange during the rough. Cut four pieces of 1/2" copper half an inch to act as a spacer underneath the flange to make it flush with the finished floor and then the floor, whether it be tile or anything else, gets put down around the flange. This way, if you ever have to rip up the floor, you don't need to rip out the flange too which can be a massive headache especially on a slab.
Is there a flange that will fit inside 3" toilet drain pipe?
Yes for sure. 3" slip flange.
Can you type in specific name of the flange that will fit inside 3" toilet drain pipe?
CB-1 that baseboard look like it was hung a little too high there I don't think quarter round would have closed that Gap up. Who's the contractor on that job lol. Peace brother
gonna need XXXL qtr. round in this place. been fighting the early pour by a hack concrete company since day one.
They are still seems like there is a little gap. What I would do is use “kwik seal” kitchen and bath adhesive caulk and put a small bead around the base and wet your finger and run it over the caulk to give it a nice smooth Suffice. You should use it anyway when you’re using a PVC or ABS flange because it secures the toilet firmly to the floor
is it code to fit the flange inside the 3" pipe?
code red.
could not find anything a while back when i looked.
That second flange was screwed in sideways. Doh!
i rather the slots. stronger for sure.
Alright I see you found a easy way to get the concrete dust out of the holes way to go CB 👍
mask up....ha
No chrome escutcheon on the shut off. Tsk tsk
ha....lol
Trust ur eyes to set the flange
only if i have my glasses and I will measure anyway cause my eye is crooked....ha
@ 10:35 better bit angle... the hole after NOOOOOOO, and never aim towards where the pipe is........
rut row
What kind of glue do you use
company?
One of my biggest pet peeve's is a lazy floor guy/tile guy/or general contractor, who won't level a floor before we set fixtures. Plumber's are NOT Magicians...we can't waive our magic wand and fix your f*ck up cause you were so damn lazy. There are floor leveling products on the market...use it!! With that said....that floor didn't look too bad....Rant over.
just don't drop your chap stick...it may roll away.
CB
Yes Robert! Ha
seems like your an angry man
very happy plumber, but plumbing can test your patience for sure.
So many mistakes. No primer, 90 degree set wrong. Wrong screws. Air blast instead of vacc. And screws not flush with flange face. Not plugging hole and almost dropped a screw in it. But if it holds dook .. who's complaining? Lol
come on coach....ha
Wow, pay close attention and you will learn what not to do. Wrong screws, wrong masonry but, wrong orientation of flange. Great job.
It sounds Middle Eastern music
We do it all Ali...love me some music.
Chuck Barron Great, I noticed that because I am from Kuwait and I love plumbing
lastly, that flange design is an 100% guaranteed leak...........
perhaps an oversize wax ring would smash down into the sharp step and guide thy poo water, once again I see "collegiate sheeple engineer design failure", that flange has total lack of hands on in-field analysis, skill and knowledge....... we so need to make anyone and everyone that engineers products spend a minimum of 5 years in the fields of labor doing repair work ;)
flawed like me....lol
I'm yelling NOOOOOO @ 3:27 bad camera angle or drilling at an angle towards the pipe....
I always drill slightly angled outwards from center of flange, less chance of hitting the pipe and better chance of solid bite in the concrete or whatever half rotted floor is underneath..
been there done that, sometimes 4" screws in at 30+ degree angle to grab un-rotted wood and hold it down (no access underneath) if it's open then add bracing ;)
Throttle don't jinx me dawg.....lol
Wasted 2:16 of time watching the opening and then just gave up. Got tired of listening to the moaning and whining.