The Flash was done long before Gunn came in. He just cut some scenes and after spending about 300 million on the movie, WB were always gonna release it.
Gunn has stated that there is going to be a secondary non-connected universe for things like Pattinson’s The Batman and Phoenix’s Joker and whatnot to exist in. There’s still some potential that we could see a Beyond movie with Keaton as the elderly Bruce Wayne. I wouldn’t bet on it, but it also isn’t entirely out of the question, either 🤷🏻♂️
Tim Burton got axed, in part, for making his movie too overtly sexual, yet Schumacher got two films in which he added nipples to the suits and had camera zoom-ins to cod pieces and butt pads. What a world.
@@johnhoran9840 I saw the fanscription on UA-cam of it and it looked like it would've been a great movie.I bet you in a parallel universe that movie existed and there's a fanscription on UA-cam of the movie we gotten😵💫😄
There's no filmmaker more sensual than Tim Burton. Lol. I think 80s kids were the last generation that had a bunch of Puritan Holdout Adults trying to keep them virgins until marriage. Once all the adults got divorced and the internet became universal they ship had sailed.
They really did Keaton dirty stringing him on with the promise of like 3/5 more pictures getting to give his arch new life. I’d be pissed because you can tell how much he always loved and relished the character. His face lit up in every interview he got to talk about it. Justice for Keaton. Would love to see him voice a final batman adventure in an animated film or something.
Micheal Keaton was definitely one of the only decent parts about the Flash movie for me, but truthfully this was such a waste of the character and Micheal Keaton as a great actor when we could've gotten him to star in a Batman Beyond movie instead, I think many of us would prefer that. At least it seems like had fun in this movie
Keaton's Batman could have a really fun comeback in animation, I think. There are already a bunch of comics based on Burton's Batman continuity, it could be a fun next step for the character, much like it was for Adam West's Batman.
@@michaelm2246 cuz the story is already done, Keaton is old and actors can only do so much, it’s been shown he can’t in Flash cuz cgi stepped in It’s nothing but key jangling at this point to actually want a live action adaptation of something that already exists
@@gbrogo7139 He means it's for babies. Look at the pretty light, look at the pretty light! He's not wrong, they are making these movies on the basis that you are all too stupid to get how they are condescending to you,
You just know.... that whatever project is thrown at them, suits mangled each project and made bad decisions like Joss Whedon and everything since. They ignored quality at every step. Self-inflicted damage.
I blame the so called "fans". Warners keeps making fantastic movies like Flash and Blue Beetle and Shazam 2 but the so called "fans" don't show up to see them. DC "fans" are the worst.
@@KrazyJoe1701 well dc is also the ones to did such a poor job at connecting their universe and failed at past attempts at movies, I don't blame the fans because they don't have an obligation to see their movies its dc job to get them in theaters and dc failed at that
Honestly, I _genuinely_ enjoyed Keaton’s reprisal performance as the Burton-verse Bruce Wayne/Batman in “The Flash;” his performance alone _was_ a *bright* spot in the film IMHO. It’s a *_shame_* that corporate mishandling and changing hierarchies at DC and Warner Bros. effectively cut short his return as the Caped Crusader.
I agree. I LOVED seeing him again. And his use in "The Flash" made sense to me. I don't even mind him dying in the end, as he sacrificed himself for the better good. People hate on this movie so much. And if you can get past the bad visual effects, it's actually a great flick!
@@jinky0u812 Eh, I’ve seen _worse_ visual effects in other movies; “The Flash’s” don’t even come close to being terrible IMHO, just ‘too much’ with them. But that’s good to hear on Michael Keaton’s Batman (😊). Glad I’m not the only one.
I was a kid again when I heard that Michael Keaton was gonna be Batman again. He's MY Batman and I'm sure he's the Batman of many others that grew up with Burton and Keaton's Batman. What pisses me off about studios is the massive amount of interference that they do. Sure, Batman and Batman Returns was dark but it was AWESOME! A Dark Masterpiece! I was excited when I heard there was a New Batman movie coming out. There was no internet back in 1994/1995, so I didn't know about the drama that was going on with the next Batman movie. I was 11 yrs old when Batman Forever came out and was like "WTF is this?!" Don't get me wrong, Kilmer is an amazing actor but when you go from Batman Returns to Batman Forever, at my age, you're like "WTF happened?" and then you get Batman and Robin... *Face palm* Now, we have the The Flash movie... where the studio interfered like a MFer during the production of that movie. I'm not even gonna get into the Snyder Verse. We all know about that mess. Mushchietti's original plans for the movie would've blown everyone away. Why can't studios just let the director create what they originally wanted to create? They hired the director for a reason... Because they believed that that person was perfect for the job but then they want to interfere with that director's vision. DCEU/DCU was interfered with like a MFer and we all suffered for it. We got a subpar if not average movie. Now we James Gunn and that other foo running DC and seeing the stuff they've put out... DC is done. Marvel is slowing dying but it gave us huge blockbusters and I'm not even a Marvel fan. I actually kinda like Flash movie. It wasn't amazing but it was good. I probably feel that way because I saw Keaton as Batman again. I wish we could've seen what Mushcietti's original vision. Who knows, we might see it in 5 or 10 years from now.
I still love Batman Returns despite everyone saying was too dark and the style of Tim Burton was too much all over the place. Also Danny de vito was over the top at times but was definitely a good memorable villain
Batman Returns is one of the best Batman (and Catwoman) stories in any medium IMO. But I get why, as an action-adventure blockbuster, people find it... weird. It is
@@robertmatthews9650 today everybody is like 'oh Batman is so grave and adult' (is it really? The guy dresses as a bat and fights an evil clown...anyway), but back then it was more like 'Batman is for children and this movie is too scary' As if dark=adult. Nonsense
I met him the year Clooney was announced as the next one, i think. He was def pissed about whatever happened behind the scenes, but he was smart and didn't spill too much tea. I sat next to him for 3 hours, other than when our group met him, he and i just sat arm-to-arm in a crowded bar, leaving each other alone, never spoke a word to each other. I feel like he really enjoyed that lol - i was raised you leave celebs alone & pretend they are just regular strangers.
I enjoyed a touch of nostalgia watching Michael Keaton reprise his role as Batman. Despite the film under performing money wise, to me it is one of the more refreshing efforts from the DCEU. Ezra Miller held it together, Keaton had an excellent cameo and the shots of the other multi-verse Supermen were great! I thought it told a cohesive story.
Keaton's Batman deserved to be the center of a Batman Beyond movie. Had The Flash succeeded, making Keaton the pivot point for the altered universe sounds like a great idea. He and this version of Supergirl were oddly (or perhaps echoes of the original design) the things I left The Flash craving more of seeing
@@Thespeedrap Clooney has famously sworn that he would never play Batman again, so it’s a meta way of saying that this universe will not continue. That made me fall out of my chair laughing. However, I completely agree that it only works with the LOOSEST of interpretations of the multiverse. It doesn’t fit narratively to the whole rest of the movie
Well, considering these are movie based on comic books, and comic books are cartoony, hypersexualized, AND Batman's stories ARE dark...Burton NAILED IT! If you didn't collect and read the comics...then I don't think you should be allowed in the theaters. There should be some type of screening process at the ticket booth.
@@PinkoKane Burton & Keaton’s Batman is great, but maybe dial the gate keeping back a little. Art is subjective and everyone comes into a movie with different perspectives and out with different opinions. You never know… a movie could be someone’s introduction to being a comic book fan
“It’s because Batman wasn’t 72”. Y’all ever heard of Batman Beyond lmao? If The Flash was successful Keaton was gonna get a Batman Beyond movie. It’s a absolute tragedy we might not ever get that now
I really disliked that Keaton's last scenes as Batman.... were dying. 1) It wasnt even his movie (like Jackman's Logan) 2) Not a significant sacrifice (like Stark's Endgame) 3) It was just meh, like when Han Solo died in Star Wars 7
Great video. I found it very insightful and touched on topics many never address. Thank you. On paper I LOVE the idea of Keton being DC's Fury. I grew up with the 87 Batman and would watch it on VHC everyday for nap time. Sadly, the ideas were never my issue with the DCmovies. It always came down to the writing, exicution and studio 'notes'. Some actors and protects I liked and was looking forward too have all been canned or shelved after all this mess. I'm looking forward to what Gunn does with it. Ha, in the meantime, I didn't think I'd say it, but Loki season 2 has me finally interested in the MCU major arching story again!
Just as Christopher Reeve will always be my favorite Superman, Michael Keaton will always be my favorite Batman. Their characterizations were perfect in my opinion.
Michael Keaton will always be my favourite Batman, unlike Christopher Bale and Ben Affeck he didnt need to bulk up to look intimidating. He was able to do this just by his eyes showing you that this man has inner darkness that you do not want to upset.
I agree, I like Bale as an actor in other movies, but I hate his Batman and I'm just not into the Nolan movies. I enjoyed Ben Affleck but he didn't have much to work with and he never even got a solo Batman movie.
I really thought the Keaton version of Batman in the flash was great. A little silly at spots but in general great. Why they’ve rearranged so much I’ll never understand but I do completely agree with redirecting from having bat woman and superwoman as leaders of the DC superhero universe. Having Keaton as the Batman in Batman Beyond makes so much sense it’s laughable yet it’ll never happen ?
He was good but don’t accept a mediocre movie just cuz his bats was great. His Batman was great, but certain people should direct keatons Batman….. that’s Tim burton. Muschietti did a shit job with keatons role in the film. Trim had major flaws w his Batman movies but it was to do with joker being joe chill, dent and Gordon were boring and had shit roles, Batman killed.
@@moonknight4053Batman never stopped killing when he adopted his no killing with a gun rule he has still killed countless times in the comics over the years and even Adam west’s version killed even though it was inadvertent when he was able to save Molly after she climbed on top of the atomic pile and fell in while Batman was trying to reach out and grab her hand only George Clooney didn’t kill anyone cause no villain actually died in Batman and Robin weather u like the movie or not thst personal opinion it still stands as the only live action version to not kill directly or nadvertently
@@gustavolopes5094 I mean it would have to be Tim burton directing and Matt reeves as one of the writers. Tim burton brought a different kind of gothic to Batman, and Danny elfmans whole soundtrack for the Batman movies….. transcends all of life.
agreed, Calle and Keaton gave the movie something I was not expecting, the move was Mediocre, and not the massive hyped blockbuster the studio promised and they had to know this, they are not stupid, it was average and Calle and Keaton and a few others kept it from being Bad.
I really hope he doesn't mess up the DCU Batman as I genuinely enjoy a lot of his movies especially the IT movies, even thought some aspects of the Flash movie were cool, but there is a part of me that is mildly concerned, but I'm choosing to be hopeful as James Gunn has never let us down and if he picked Andy Muschietti for Brave and Bold than it must've been for a good reason. Hopefully he has a good understanding of the Batfamily and their wide variety of interesting and unique characters
@@cloudsombrero Well actually I though Blue Beetle was pretty good and Peacemaker is arguably one of the best DCEU projects to date. The Flash I will admit isn't great, but all in all Im more excited than ever for his vision for the DCU and his take on Superman
Even though the film flopped, Keaton/Batman related merchandise sold well, UNLIKE Miller/The Flash merchandise, which goes to DEFINITIVELY prove that had they ditched Miller and made a film that revolved around Keaton's Batman, the film would have been a HUGE HIT.
You made one mistake with your video. Keaton's role in Aquaman 2 did make sense AT ONE TIME. According to the original plan, the films were to be released as The Flash (November, 2022), Batgirl, Blue Beetle (both scheduled for MAX) and then Aquaman 2 (December 2022). His cameo for A2 was filmed at the same time as his filming The Flash because they were at adjoining studios in England. Then because of the apparent switcheroo regarding the release of The Flash to June 2023, it was going to make his appearance not make sense so Ben Affleck was brought in for the cameo at the beginning of Aquaman 2. However, things got switched around again and Aquaman 2 would follow The Flash, and it would have Ben at the beginning and Keaton being at the end of the movie (Barry's hijinks time traveling would explain it). HOWEVER, James Gunn hates Keaton's Batman and so we would up with a garbage, joke ending to The Flash and poor James Wan having to slice, dice and reshoot Aquaman 2 numerous times. As a Keaton fan, I can safely say Gunn and Zaslav did him dirty. But you did a great job with this. Cheers!
Couldn't have put it any better myself. What an absolute shame. I truly think I have reached my fatigue with all of these movies. It feels so disgusting to take something we love (Keatons Batman) and use it against us like this only to completely shift direction last minute and discard it all.
I thoroughly enjoyed The Flash. The first twenty minutes with Affleck were fun. Keaton in the middle was awesome and The Batman we got at the end pleasantly surprised me. So I enjoyed The Batman part of The Flash. The movie was okay too. I’m not generally a DC fan but still, I enjoyed the movie.
I was just stoked to see Keaton back period lol. Even though he went out like a badass fighting the Kryptonian, some fans were bummed that he died in this movie / timeline, even though he originally did, even with the first two endings with him, no matter what ending we got, he's not dead. When the Flash went back in time, somewhere between the events of Batman Returns and the Batman 89 comic, which is now an official sequel to Returns, that's when the alternate timeline happened. When the Flash went back at the end and almost reset everything, Keaton became fully restored back in his Tim Burton universe and is alive and well. That's why Keaton's not actually dead. That's why in the alternate Flash timeline, you don't see Keaton's 89 comic batsuit in the bat-vault. 89 never happened in this timeline. In the full Burton universe / timeline, Marlon Wayans modifies the Batman Returns suit. In this Flash timeline, obviously young Barry modifies the Batman Returns suit. In a way I feel like he belongs only in the full Burton universe. I personally would have preferred the second ending with Keaton's Batman, Supergirl, Wonder Woman, and Superman. Also at first Keaton was only going to appear in this movie like he ended up doing anyways.
I was just glad we were getting Batman at all with Affleck Keaton was icing on the cake cause it meant double dose of Batman for me I would’ve liked to have seen Keaton be the Thomas Wayne Batman we should’ve gotten cause of the movie being an adaptation of the flashpoint storyline I didn’t need the movie to be a 1 to 1 adaptation of flashpoint but feel more like the flashpoint storyline
I felt that, if the Batman Beyond movie didn’t work out, we should have gotten Keaton as Thomas Wayne. This way we get Keaton in a role that is similar (dark, brooding Batman) and different (being Thomas Wayne). That scene in the car in Spiderman: Homecoming showed to me he would be great in this role.
Michael Keaton’s Batman/Bruce Wayne is great, and the idea of him coming back is awesome! However, it wasn’t done in a way that felt as satisfying as it could. He came back for The Flash, but it was clearly not the same as Burton’s Batman because it’s not the same world. It didn’t have the same punch that it would have if it was straight up in the Burtonverse, which Batgirl visually looked like it would’ve been taking more inspiration from. A “Batman Beyond” film would’ve been a perfect opportunity to continue his role in Burton’s world.
Nah, that's BS. Keaton never reshot footage of his Batman dying. He always died in the 3rd act battle regardless. That's why is was meant to be so shocking when he was alive in the previous endings.
Correct. The death was scheduled as a plot point for the film, but at the end Ezra moved the can of tomatoes to the higher shelf in the grocery store (as seen in the movie), which would lead to Keaton arriving at the courthouse because that was THE ORIGINAL ending. Ironically, the courthouse scene was actually the first scene filmed for the movie. Instead, we got Mr. Nespresso.
The problem is that James Gunn is part of the WB revolving executive miss management. Him and the other lane pass have miss managed the franchise since they took control of the franchise
@@Batman88878 1) announcing a reboot while films were still slated 2) making conflicting statements about the project some which had been bold face lies (like when he said Ben Affleck would be directing for them) or walking back comments 3) making statements that leave people confused 4) dividing the fanbase with the choices made in his vanity project 5) making reshoots that only went further to ruin films (like flash ending or Aquamans vision) List goes on
@@bofawhatsbofa4593TSS suffered as a result of theater inactivity because of Covid and the film was released on HBO Max at the same time it was released to theaters.
It is shame Michael Keaton would be great retired Batman and would be great introduction to start movie as Batman beyond and they should have made better flash crisis then the one we got
I really hate network executives sometimes because a lot of the time when a film doesn't work or just is lack luster it's because of meddling from the higher ups. Honestly I enjoyed seeing Keaton again. A few lines didn't really work for me, but it was cool to see him back in the role one more time and to do things that weren't possible back in the 89 film and Returns. But he definitely deserves better. And to have Batman Beyond, a film that so many fans want to happen, be based on the success of Flash is an incredibly stupid business decision. Keaton wasn't the issue with the Flash. Most people I chat with have praised Keaton for his performance. A Batman Beyond movie can still work and be great depending on numerous factors. Such a shame we will never see that or see a completely different version
"He was not interested in a DCU led by Supergirl and Batgirl.." Dodged a bullet there mate, great call - it definitely would have tanked xD Takes a pair on him to make that kinda call these days though. Respect.
I actually thought the Flash movie wasn't half-bad, but it's a shame how they handled all this. Keaton Batman stuff. They had several obvious paths to success and they ignored them. Why do they do this…
Keaton and the fans deserve better, The Dark Knight Returns is what they should’ve made, that should’ve translated into a Batman Beyond Frsnchise. They could bring Keaton back, but it has to make sense.
It was a great thing to see Michael Keaton all these years later from when I saw him in 1989 the magic that was in that movie theatre in June of 1989 I remember people giving standing ovations at the end of the movie it was truly an experience I’m glad I was able to witness truly sad how Keaton was portrayed in the flash and he is what made the movie we have one of the best current directors and producers making the DCU films I’m not sure what happened with the flash not a terrible movie by any means but the script was very lack luster
I like the style of his Batman movie so much more than superhero movies since. Nowadays, it's like all superhero movies have this focus on being comedies, which I just don't get.
Michael Keaton as Batman was awesome. If DC thinks Michael Keaton as Batman won't bring in the crowds, then they learned the wrong lesson. Fans would have showed up to see Keaton in the batsuit if they would have not used him as a bandaid to fix their terrible destruction of the universe they had been trying create this last decade instead of just giving us the Darkseid vs Justice League movie. There are two great ways they could have used Keaton that fans would have showed up to the movies for. Both seem so fucking obvious that I'm not sure I understand why neither has been done: 1: Batman Beyond. Let's see Keaton training a young Terry to become Batman in a more futuristic setting allowing for a young up and coming nobody actor to be schooled by the old and wise Keaton (possibly strapping on the Batsuit himself to save the unexperienced Terry). Awesome. 2: Give Burton his final movie in his trilogy. Let's see an old and grizzled Bruce Wayne strapping the suit back on for one last foray into the iconic version of Gotham City we seen in the first two Tim Burton movies. Bring back stage sets. Bring back practical affects. I know Keaton is getting older but no one would mind seeing an awesome stunt double in the suit as long as we get Keaton's stellar acting chops and his screen presence. DC has dropped the ball so hard it has literally sunk to the Earth's core. No one asked for Batgirl and Supergirl being at the center of the DCU.
Seeing Michael Keaton's Batman again was my main interest in the Flash movie. I knew it was kinda nuts since it wasn't the main focus of the story, but I didn't care. Really is a shame they won't make a Batman Beyond movie with him. I'd rather see that than this Brave and the Bold movie they got planned. As if I care to see yet another Batman reboot! They really shouldn't be blaming the Flash's failure on Keaton, especially since, again, he wasn't the main focus of the film (even if he was supposed to be a major draw for it). Yeah the movie itself was a mess, but he was still just as great as ever.
Having a new Batman film with Keaton, taking place 30 years after his last film, would have been cool. maybe a film about him being an older Batman who maybe passes the torch down to a new Batman or different superhero.
Keaton & supergirl were hands down the best part of the flash movie. Mk will always be my batman & he was awesome in the movie & if I ever watch it again I will be jumping straight to his introduction & skipping all the Ezra Miller garbage from the beginning to middle. & dispite not knowing who she was & what lil screen time she had, I thought she did great as supergirl & showed great emotion & made u feel her plight in a very small amount of time. Ezra is the problem with flash in dceu
I bought and watched the new flash movie just for Keaton, but was also positively surprised by how well supergirl played her role. Keaton is my Batman just like Christopher Reeves is my Superman. Without these two, I would never rewatch this film. With these two thrown into the mix, I will most certainly give it another go every now and then. At least they did Keaton justice in this movie, because he rocked it and was portrayed in a good light with epic and well deserved scenes (and a beautiful soundtrack). I can't say the same for the latest Indiana Jones where feminism took over, sadly.
You could still have a "Batman Beyond" movie with Michael Keaton in it. In the animated version enough time has gone by for the relationship between Bruce and Terry, the new Batman, to be the main focus in a futuristic Gothem ( think "Blade Runner"). The other heroes and villians could be part of a "whatever heppened to..." scene in this or a future movie. That's a movie I'd like to see.
I agree with everything you said. But lets give credit and appreciate the fantastic performance from Michael Keaton, regardless of what you think of the movie. Michael Keaton deserves that, and not let his performance be over shadowed by everything else.
This is a great injustice to millions - perhaps even billions - of Gen-X'ers and Millennials who think BATMAN RETURNS did not wrap things up tidily enough and wanted to see Michael Keaton's Batman in his own story one more time. And almost all of the pieces were in place. Keaton had expressed interest in doing one more film with Tim Burton. Michelle Pfeiffer is still active, and her tragic figure of Selina Kyle/Catwoman deserves some closure. Even Robert Wuhl brought back his Alexander Knox character in a cameo, and would probably be thrilled to bring him back in a more substantial role. The only possible roadblock would be Kim Basinger's recent retreat from public life, but even she might be persuaded to reprise Vicki Vale. Bottom line: Keaton's Bruce Wayne deserves to pass the torch and die honorably in his own movie. THE FLASH was the perfect chance to set that up. Instead, he died almost unceremoniously and became the setup for a punchline. I cannot express how enraged I was when George Clooney showed up.
keaton lived up to every expectation and i'm greatful to've gotten the movie. wasn't all for miller but he was good. i felt like there was lots to like about it unlike critics.
Keaton as Batman was really the only reason I gave this movie a chance. Affleck's Batman was fun to watch too but seeing Keaton after almost 30 years was the biggest draw for me. Frankly, I agree that the best utilization for Keaton would have been for a Batman Beyond movie.
If that's the last time I get to see Michael Keaton as Batman and Bruce Wayne I am completely satisfied with his performance. He was Great and I loved the Flash movie!!.
I really liked flash loved seeing og batman LOVED IT!! want him back as the Dark knight. They didn't advertise enought, I forgot all about it untill I saw a HBO Max advert
Oh my god him in Batman Beyond would make so much sense and be amazing, now that’s where I would have been excited, like you said, not in a Flash movie.
The Flash failed for so many reasons. For me, one of the biggest reasons was that Michael Keaton's Batman felt very much out of place because it wasn't a Tim Burton Batman universe.
I don't care much about Keaton but discontinuing Batfleck (Ben Affleck's version) and Henry Cavill's Superman is the greatest crime Warner Brother's have done.
A Batman beyond film with Michael Keaton playing an elderly Bruce Wayne could have been a huge hit for the studio. This flash movie was mediocre and Ezra was a very poor choice as Flash. Grant Gustin was much better.
He was definitely the best part of The Flash. I think he needs one more.
So true ..
Yes, Keaton was the best part of The Flash. Sad that his Batman ended this way.
The DCU is mostly misses with a few hits.
keatons batman fought so atheltic and snappy, i loved it! @@bb1111116
he was a better batman in that movie than a lot of modern batmans.
Agreed. And if they do, definitely get Burton back because he's still got it and knows what to do.
Rather than releasing The Flash, Gunn should've announced a Batman Beyond film with Michael Keaton.
Yep
The Flash was done long before Gunn came in. He just cut some scenes and after spending about 300 million on the movie, WB were always gonna release it.
That’s what I was hoping for when I heard he was coming back. I was so disappointed.
Gunn has stated that there is going to be a secondary non-connected universe for things like Pattinson’s The Batman and Phoenix’s Joker and whatnot to exist in.
There’s still some potential that we could see a Beyond movie with Keaton as the elderly Bruce Wayne. I wouldn’t bet on it, but it also isn’t entirely out of the question, either 🤷🏻♂️
Gunn didn't release The Flash, Warner Bros did.
Tim Burton got axed, in part, for making his movie too overtly sexual, yet Schumacher got two films in which he added nipples to the suits and had camera zoom-ins to cod pieces and butt pads. What a world.
No one was saying "I'd like to fill her void!", "unlimited poontang", "naked, sexual charisma", and "let's consummate our fiendish union".
Such hypocritical people had against Tim Burton but yet you got MCU bullshit and it's worse than that.
Would have been awesome to see Robin Williams as The Riddler in Burton's third Batman film.@@Thespeedrap
@@johnhoran9840 I saw the fanscription on UA-cam of it and it looked like it would've been a great movie.I bet you in a parallel universe that movie existed and there's a fanscription on UA-cam of the movie we gotten😵💫😄
There's no filmmaker more sensual than Tim Burton. Lol. I think 80s kids were the last generation that had a bunch of Puritan Holdout Adults trying to keep them virgins until marriage. Once all the adults got divorced and the internet became universal they ship had sailed.
They really did Keaton dirty stringing him on with the promise of like 3/5 more pictures getting to give his arch new life. I’d be pissed because you can tell how much he always loved and relished the character. His face lit up in every interview he got to talk about it. Justice for Keaton. Would love to see him voice a final batman adventure in an animated film or something.
Dude warner brothers is all over the place. I have never seen a company behave this way.
@@captainmartin1219Everything at dc has this weird gay witchy vibe these days.
Sounds exactly like what Hollywood did to Jared Leto.. Both actors are rotten off screen.
BATMAN BEYOND?! Keaton could have been coming back for a Batman Beyond?! Who the f*ck at Warner's screwed that decision?!
James Gunn, Peter Safran and David Zaslav
Micheal Keaton was definitely one of the only decent parts about the Flash movie for me, but truthfully this was such a waste of the character and Micheal Keaton as a great actor when we could've gotten him to star in a Batman Beyond movie instead, I think many of us would prefer that. At least it seems like had fun in this movie
Come to think of it The Flash was pretty much the same story as Batman Beyond!
@@Nick64266 Yeah they kind of did. They just basically substituted Terry McGinnis with the Barry Allen's Flash.
Keaton's Batman could have a really fun comeback in animation, I think. There are already a bunch of comics based on Burton's Batman continuity, it could be a fun next step for the character, much like it was for Adam West's Batman.
I like that idea (👍).
You already got Beyond, why repeat the same thing again?
@@michaelm2246 cuz the story is already done, Keaton is old and actors can only do so much, it’s been shown he can’t in Flash cuz cgi stepped in
It’s nothing but key jangling at this point to actually want a live action adaptation of something that already exists
@@ninjanibba4259what? 😂
@@gbrogo7139 He means it's for babies. Look at the pretty light, look at the pretty light! He's not wrong, they are making these movies on the basis that you are all too stupid to get how they are condescending to you,
Its impossible to ever feel bad for dc and where they're at, they legit do it to themselves
You just know.... that whatever project is thrown at them, suits mangled each project and made bad decisions like Joss Whedon and everything since. They ignored quality at every step. Self-inflicted damage.
I blame the so called "fans". Warners keeps making fantastic movies like Flash and Blue Beetle and Shazam 2 but the so called "fans" don't show up to see them. DC "fans" are the worst.
@@KrazyJoe1701you lost me at Blue Beetle yuck.
Absolutely screw so much of there movies up
@@KrazyJoe1701 well dc is also the ones to did such a poor job at connecting their universe and failed at past attempts at movies, I don't blame the fans because they don't have an obligation to see their movies its dc job to get them in theaters and dc failed at that
Honestly, I _genuinely_ enjoyed Keaton’s reprisal performance as the Burton-verse Bruce Wayne/Batman in “The Flash;” his performance alone _was_ a *bright* spot in the film IMHO. It’s a *_shame_* that corporate mishandling and changing hierarchies at DC and Warner Bros. effectively cut short his return as the Caped Crusader.
Well said
@@Yikes702 Thank you (😊).
I agree. I LOVED seeing him again. And his use in "The Flash" made sense to me. I don't even mind him dying in the end, as he sacrificed himself for the better good. People hate on this movie so much. And if you can get past the bad visual effects, it's actually a great flick!
@@jinky0u812 Eh, I’ve seen _worse_ visual effects in other movies; “The Flash’s” don’t even come close to being terrible IMHO, just ‘too much’ with them. But that’s good to hear on Michael Keaton’s Batman (😊). Glad I’m not the only one.
The movie was a monstrosity.
I was a kid again when I heard that Michael Keaton was gonna be Batman again. He's MY Batman and I'm sure he's the Batman of many others that grew up with Burton and Keaton's Batman. What pisses me off about studios is the massive amount of interference that they do. Sure, Batman and Batman Returns was dark but it was AWESOME! A Dark Masterpiece! I was excited when I heard there was a New Batman movie coming out. There was no internet back in 1994/1995, so I didn't know about the drama that was going on with the next Batman movie. I was 11 yrs old when Batman Forever came out and was like "WTF is this?!" Don't get me wrong, Kilmer is an amazing actor but when you go from Batman Returns to Batman Forever, at my age, you're like "WTF happened?" and then you get Batman and Robin... *Face palm*
Now, we have the The Flash movie... where the studio interfered like a MFer during the production of that movie. I'm not even gonna get into the Snyder Verse. We all know about that mess. Mushchietti's original plans for the movie would've blown everyone away. Why can't studios just let the director create what they originally wanted to create? They hired the director for a reason... Because they believed that that person was perfect for the job but then they want to interfere with that director's vision. DCEU/DCU was interfered with like a MFer and we all suffered for it. We got a subpar if not average movie. Now we James Gunn and that other foo running DC and seeing the stuff they've put out... DC is done. Marvel is slowing dying but it gave us huge blockbusters and I'm not even a Marvel fan.
I actually kinda like Flash movie. It wasn't amazing but it was good. I probably feel that way because I saw Keaton as Batman again. I wish we could've seen what Mushcietti's original vision. Who knows, we might see it in 5 or 10 years from now.
I still love Batman Returns despite everyone saying was too dark and the style of Tim Burton was too much all over the place. Also Danny de vito was over the top at times but was definitely a good memorable villain
Batman Returns is my favorite Batman movie
This is the first time I’ve ever heard anyone say the dark knight is too….dark. 🤨
Batman Returns is one of the best Batman (and Catwoman) stories in any medium IMO. But I get why, as an action-adventure blockbuster, people find it... weird. It is
@@robertmatthews9650 today everybody is like 'oh Batman is so grave and adult' (is it really? The guy dresses as a bat and fights an evil clown...anyway), but back then it was more like 'Batman is for children and this movie is too scary'
As if dark=adult. Nonsense
@@danixove2358 obviously none of these people read The Killing Joke.
I met him the year Clooney was announced as the next one, i think. He was def pissed about whatever happened behind the scenes, but he was smart and didn't spill too much tea. I sat next to him for 3 hours, other than when our group met him, he and i just sat arm-to-arm in a crowded bar, leaving each other alone, never spoke a word to each other. I feel like he really enjoyed that lol - i was raised you leave celebs alone & pretend they are just regular strangers.
I've never really met any real celebrities but I feel like this is how I would react. Mostly because I wouldn't know what to say.
Bullshit
I enjoyed a touch of nostalgia watching Michael Keaton reprise his role as Batman. Despite the film under performing money wise, to me it is one of the more refreshing efforts from the DCEU. Ezra Miller held it together, Keaton had an excellent cameo and the shots of the other multi-verse Supermen were great! I thought it told a cohesive story.
Keaton's Batman deserved to be the center of a Batman Beyond movie. Had The Flash succeeded, making Keaton the pivot point for the altered universe sounds like a great idea. He and this version of Supergirl were oddly (or perhaps echoes of the original design) the things I left The Flash craving more of seeing
I agree WHY didn't they just reappear at the ending but George fucking Clooney shows up for no DAMN reason.
@@Thespeedrap Clooney has famously sworn that he would never play Batman again, so it’s a meta way of saying that this universe will not continue. That made me fall out of my chair laughing. However, I completely agree that it only works with the LOOSEST of interpretations of the multiverse. It doesn’t fit narratively to the whole rest of the movie
@@zenquantum1246 That's what killed me at the end of the movie.DCEU has been a huge let down for me and it needs to be scrapped out entirely.
Well, considering these are movie based on comic books, and comic books are cartoony, hypersexualized, AND Batman's stories ARE dark...Burton NAILED IT! If you didn't collect and read the comics...then I don't think you should be allowed in the theaters. There should be some type of screening process at the ticket booth.
@@PinkoKane Burton & Keaton’s Batman is great, but maybe dial the gate keeping back a little. Art is subjective and everyone comes into a movie with different perspectives and out with different opinions. You never know… a movie could be someone’s introduction to being a comic book fan
“It’s because Batman wasn’t 72”.
Y’all ever heard of Batman Beyond lmao?
If The Flash was successful Keaton was gonna get a Batman Beyond movie.
It’s a absolute tragedy we might not ever get that now
I really disliked that Keaton's last scenes as Batman.... were dying.
1) It wasnt even his movie (like Jackman's Logan)
2) Not a significant sacrifice (like Stark's Endgame)
3) It was just meh, like when Han Solo died in Star Wars 7
Great video. I found it very insightful and touched on topics many never address. Thank you. On paper I LOVE the idea of Keton being DC's Fury. I grew up with the 87 Batman and would watch it on VHC everyday for nap time. Sadly, the ideas were never my issue with the DCmovies. It always came down to the writing, exicution and studio 'notes'.
Some actors and protects I liked and was looking forward too have all been canned or shelved after all this mess. I'm looking forward to what Gunn does with it.
Ha, in the meantime, I didn't think I'd say it, but Loki season 2 has me finally interested in the MCU major arching story again!
Just as Christopher Reeve will always be my favorite Superman, Michael Keaton will always be my favorite Batman. Their characterizations were perfect in my opinion.
Damn still mad we never got the Reeves Superman and Keaton Batman crossover.
They did star in a movie together called "Speechless" so that's the closest thing we'll ever get unfortunately. @@hamhockbeans
Lol
"Who are you?!"
"I'm retired."
Michael Keaton will always be my favourite Batman, unlike Christopher Bale and Ben Affeck he didnt need to bulk up to look intimidating. He was able to do this just by his eyes showing you that this man has inner darkness that you do not want to upset.
I agree, I like Bale as an actor in other movies, but I hate his Batman and I'm just not into the Nolan movies. I enjoyed Ben Affleck but he didn't have much to work with and he never even got a solo Batman movie.
I really thought the Keaton version of Batman in the flash was great. A little silly at spots but in general great. Why they’ve rearranged so much I’ll never understand but I do completely agree with redirecting from having bat woman and superwoman as leaders of the DC superhero universe. Having Keaton as the Batman in Batman Beyond makes so much sense it’s laughable yet it’ll never happen ?
He was good but don’t accept a mediocre movie just cuz his bats was great. His Batman was great, but certain people should direct keatons Batman….. that’s Tim burton. Muschietti did a shit job with keatons role in the film.
Trim had major flaws w his Batman movies but it was to do with joker being joe chill, dent and Gordon were boring and had shit roles, Batman killed.
@@moonknight4053Batman never stopped killing when he adopted his no killing with a gun rule he has still killed countless times in the comics over the years and even Adam west’s version killed even though it was inadvertent when he was able to save Molly after she climbed on top of the atomic pile and fell in while Batman was trying to reach out and grab her hand only George Clooney didn’t kill anyone cause no villain actually died in Batman and Robin weather u like the movie or not thst personal opinion it still stands as the only live action version to not kill directly or nadvertently
Honestly, I can imagine a world where "The Batman" (2022) was a Batman Beyond movie with Keaton as Bruce and Pattinson as Terry
@@gustavolopes5094 I mean it would have to be Tim burton directing and Matt reeves as one of the writers. Tim burton brought a different kind of gothic to Batman, and Danny elfmans whole soundtrack for the Batman movies….. transcends all of life.
agreed, Calle and Keaton gave the movie something I was not expecting, the move was Mediocre, and not the massive hyped blockbuster the studio promised and they had to know this, they are not stupid, it was average and Calle and Keaton and a few others kept it from being Bad.
I loved Andy Muschietti's take on Batman
And I'm really looking forward to see his take on BRAVE AND THE BOLD
I really hope he doesn't mess up the DCU Batman as I genuinely enjoy a lot of his movies especially the IT movies, even thought some aspects of the Flash movie were cool, but there is a part of me that is mildly concerned, but I'm choosing to be hopeful as James Gunn has never let us down and if he picked Andy Muschietti for Brave and Bold than it must've been for a good reason. Hopefully he has a good understanding of the Batfamily and their wide variety of interesting and unique characters
I thought exposition man needed less talk, more action
@@milkiassamuel780he let us down releasing blue beetle and flash. along with with peacemaker
@@cloudsombrero Well actually I though Blue Beetle was pretty good and Peacemaker is arguably one of the best DCEU projects to date. The Flash I will admit isn't great, but all in all Im more excited than ever for his vision for the DCU and his take on Superman
@@milkiassamuel780 his immature humor, nepotism and love of sexualizing minors honestly doesnt bode well tbh
Even though the film flopped, Keaton/Batman related merchandise sold well, UNLIKE Miller/The Flash merchandise, which goes to DEFINITIVELY prove that had they ditched Miller and made a film that revolved around Keaton's Batman, the film would have been a HUGE HIT.
I've been hoping for a Batman Beyond film for years, with Michael Keaton playing Old Man Wayne.
Will probably get one eventually
You made one mistake with your video. Keaton's role in Aquaman 2 did make sense AT ONE TIME. According to the original plan, the films were to be released as The Flash (November, 2022), Batgirl, Blue Beetle (both scheduled for MAX) and then Aquaman 2 (December 2022). His cameo for A2 was filmed at the same time as his filming The Flash because they were at adjoining studios in England. Then because of the apparent switcheroo regarding the release of The Flash to June 2023, it was going to make his appearance not make sense so Ben Affleck was brought in for the cameo at the beginning of Aquaman 2. However, things got switched around again and Aquaman 2 would follow The Flash, and it would have Ben at the beginning and Keaton being at the end of the movie (Barry's hijinks time traveling would explain it). HOWEVER, James Gunn hates Keaton's Batman and so we would up with a garbage, joke ending to The Flash and poor James Wan having to slice, dice and reshoot Aquaman 2 numerous times. As a Keaton fan, I can safely say Gunn and Zaslav did him dirty. But you did a great job with this. Cheers!
Couldn't have put it any better myself. What an absolute shame. I truly think I have reached my fatigue with all of these movies. It feels so disgusting to take something we love (Keatons Batman) and use it against us like this only to completely shift direction last minute and discard it all.
I thoroughly enjoyed The Flash. The first twenty minutes with Affleck were fun. Keaton in the middle was awesome and The Batman we got at the end pleasantly surprised me. So I enjoyed The Batman part of The Flash. The movie was okay too. I’m not generally a DC fan but still, I enjoyed the movie.
I want more Batman Keaton
I was just stoked to see Keaton back period lol. Even though he went out like a badass fighting the Kryptonian, some fans were bummed that he died in this movie / timeline, even though he originally did, even with the first two endings with him, no matter what ending we got, he's not dead. When the Flash went back in time, somewhere between the events of Batman Returns and the Batman 89 comic, which is now an official sequel to Returns, that's when the alternate timeline happened. When the Flash went back at the end and almost reset everything, Keaton became fully restored back in his Tim Burton universe and is alive and well. That's why Keaton's not actually dead. That's why in the alternate Flash timeline, you don't see Keaton's 89 comic batsuit in the bat-vault. 89 never happened in this timeline. In the full Burton universe / timeline, Marlon Wayans modifies the Batman Returns suit. In this Flash timeline, obviously young Barry modifies the Batman Returns suit. In a way I feel like he belongs only in the full Burton universe. I personally would have preferred the second ending with Keaton's Batman, Supergirl, Wonder Woman, and Superman. Also at first Keaton was only going to appear in this movie like he ended up doing anyways.
I was just glad we were getting Batman at all with Affleck Keaton was icing on the cake cause it meant double dose of Batman for me I would’ve liked to have seen Keaton be the Thomas Wayne Batman we should’ve gotten cause of the movie being an adaptation of the flashpoint storyline I didn’t need the movie to be a 1 to 1 adaptation of flashpoint but feel more like the flashpoint storyline
I felt that, if the Batman Beyond movie didn’t work out, we should have gotten Keaton as Thomas Wayne. This way we get Keaton in a role that is similar (dark, brooding Batman) and different (being Thomas Wayne). That scene in the car in Spiderman: Homecoming showed to me he would be great in this role.
Michael Keaton’s Batman/Bruce Wayne is great, and the idea of him coming back is awesome! However, it wasn’t done in a way that felt as satisfying as it could. He came back for The Flash, but it was clearly not the same as Burton’s Batman because it’s not the same world. It didn’t have the same punch that it would have if it was straight up in the Burtonverse, which Batgirl visually looked like it would’ve been taking more inspiration from. A “Batman Beyond” film would’ve been a perfect opportunity to continue his role in Burton’s world.
He is the same as Tim Burton's Batman.
Great, a spoken analysis of the headline, as opposed to words coming out of Keaton or anyone else's mouth. So glad I clicked on this.
Nah, that's BS. Keaton never reshot footage of his Batman dying. He always died in the 3rd act battle regardless. That's why is was meant to be so shocking when he was alive in the previous endings.
Correct. The death was scheduled as a plot point for the film, but at the end Ezra moved the can of tomatoes to the higher shelf in the grocery store (as seen in the movie), which would lead to Keaton arriving at the courthouse because that was THE ORIGINAL ending. Ironically, the courthouse scene was actually the first scene filmed for the movie. Instead, we got Mr. Nespresso.
Keaton was great as Bat again. More BatKeaton please!.
He's too small to be Dark Knight Returns but it would have been great to see him in a Batman Beyond film.
"We might have gotten a Batman Beyond movie if The Flash did well"
*soul crushing disappointment*
An 8 minute video when you couldve just said : "he's 72 years old". End of video
Bruce was around 80 in Batman Beyond...
I liked his performance in the flash, it was refreshing!
Batman Beyond should still happen, Keaton deserves it. Hell he’s the first actor I know who actually LOVED his Batsuit the way it was 😊
A Supergirl and Batgirl lead DCU sounds awful, but a Michael Keaton as old Batman in Batman Beyond sounds amazing.
The problem is that James Gunn is part of the WB revolving executive miss management. Him and the other lane pass have miss managed the franchise since they took control of the franchise
How has the franchise been mismanaged when his & Safran's DCU hasn't truly begun?
@@Batman88878 1) announcing a reboot while films were still slated 2) making conflicting statements about the project some which had been bold face lies (like when he said Ben Affleck would be directing for them) or walking back comments 3) making statements that leave people confused 4) dividing the fanbase with the choices made in his vanity project 5) making reshoots that only went further to ruin films (like flash ending or Aquamans vision)
List goes on
literally hasn't started yet this is a wildly ridiculous take
@@D4nielP literally started the moment he started making reshoots to fit his narrative🤦🏽♂️not including his TSS was a financial flop
@@bofawhatsbofa4593TSS suffered as a result of theater inactivity because of Covid and the film was released on HBO Max at the same time it was released to theaters.
Great video. I agree, Keaton deserved better.
I want the 90’s batman back
Free The Nipple
I want women without penises back 🧐
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LOVED IT!!! HES A FUKING LEGEND! BRING HIM BACK!!
Batman Beyond
It is shame Michael Keaton would be great retired Batman and would be great introduction to start movie as Batman beyond and they should have made better flash crisis then the one we got
Answer: Because he's too old to play Batman. Unless they want to do a Batman Beyond movie.
I really hate network executives sometimes because a lot of the time when a film doesn't work or just is lack luster it's because of meddling from the higher ups. Honestly I enjoyed seeing Keaton again. A few lines didn't really work for me, but it was cool to see him back in the role one more time and to do things that weren't possible back in the 89 film and Returns. But he definitely deserves better. And to have Batman Beyond, a film that so many fans want to happen, be based on the success of Flash is an incredibly stupid business decision. Keaton wasn't the issue with the Flash. Most people I chat with have praised Keaton for his performance. A Batman Beyond movie can still work and be great depending on numerous factors. Such a shame we will never see that or see a completely different version
It's thier money reason Sony Pictures interference with The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and Warner Bros Pictures DCEU
"He was not interested in a DCU led by Supergirl and Batgirl.." Dodged a bullet there mate, great call - it definitely would have tanked xD
Takes a pair on him to make that kinda call these days though. Respect.
Keaton deserves an honorable farewell from DC movies with "Batman Beyond".
I actually thought the Flash movie wasn't half-bad, but it's a shame how they handled all this. Keaton Batman stuff. They had several obvious paths to success and they ignored them. Why do they do this…
The Flash is a great movie.
Keaton and the fans deserve better, The Dark Knight Returns is what they should’ve made, that should’ve translated into a Batman Beyond Frsnchise. They could bring Keaton back, but it has to make sense.
I would have wanted Kevin Conroy as Bruce Wayne in a Batman Beyond movie.
he doesnt need to be batman again, he just IS batman.
Michael Keaton as Batman means NOTHING without Tim Burton.
What ruined the Flash for me was that ending. Having Keaton’s Batman die was just too rough for me. And then mocking me with Clooney.
Cause Batman wasn't 72 years old..
Except in The Dark Knight Returns (or close to it) and Batman Beyond.
I'm glad for what we got of him in The Flash! He was the best part of the whole movie!
Haven't watched the video yet, but I'm guessing it's because he's in his 70s
Watch the video.
It was a great thing to see Michael Keaton all these years later from when I saw him in 1989 the magic that was in that movie theatre in June of 1989 I remember people giving standing ovations at the end of the movie it was truly an experience I’m glad I was able to witness truly sad how Keaton was portrayed in the flash and he is what made the movie we have one of the best current directors and producers making the DCU films I’m not sure what happened with the flash not a terrible movie by any means but the script was very lack luster
*Why Michael Keaton Will Never Be Batman Again ? 🤔*
Because he's like 107 years old 🧐
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I like the style of his Batman movie so much more than superhero movies since. Nowadays, it's like all superhero movies have this focus on being comedies, which I just don't get.
Even if Michael Keaton never reprises his role again as Batman. It was still one of the greatest experiences seeing him come back just one more time.
Michael Keaton as Batman was awesome. If DC thinks Michael Keaton as Batman won't bring in the crowds, then they learned the wrong lesson. Fans would have showed up to see Keaton in the batsuit if they would have not used him as a bandaid to fix their terrible destruction of the universe they had been trying create this last decade instead of just giving us the Darkseid vs Justice League movie.
There are two great ways they could have used Keaton that fans would have showed up to the movies for. Both seem so fucking obvious that I'm not sure I understand why neither has been done:
1: Batman Beyond. Let's see Keaton training a young Terry to become Batman in a more futuristic setting allowing for a young up and coming nobody actor to be schooled by the old and wise Keaton (possibly strapping on the Batsuit himself to save the unexperienced Terry). Awesome.
2: Give Burton his final movie in his trilogy. Let's see an old and grizzled Bruce Wayne strapping the suit back on for one last foray into the iconic version of Gotham City we seen in the first two Tim Burton movies. Bring back stage sets. Bring back practical affects. I know Keaton is getting older but no one would mind seeing an awesome stunt double in the suit as long as we get Keaton's stellar acting chops and his screen presence.
DC has dropped the ball so hard it has literally sunk to the Earth's core. No one asked for Batgirl and Supergirl being at the center of the DCU.
Seeing Michael Keaton's Batman again was my main interest in the Flash movie. I knew it was kinda nuts since it wasn't the main focus of the story, but I didn't care. Really is a shame they won't make a Batman Beyond movie with him. I'd rather see that than this Brave and the Bold movie they got planned. As if I care to see yet another Batman reboot! They really shouldn't be blaming the Flash's failure on Keaton, especially since, again, he wasn't the main focus of the film (even if he was supposed to be a major draw for it). Yeah the movie itself was a mess, but he was still just as great as ever.
Keaton as Batman was just awesome!!
I loved Keaton in the film and I could have watched the film if it became all about him. He is great. It’s a shame Gunn hates him.
This video really nailed it.
This Supergirl looks more like Suberboy
Having a new Batman film with Keaton, taking place 30 years after his last film, would have been cool. maybe a film about him being an older Batman who maybe passes the torch down to a new Batman or different superhero.
Michael Keaton needs to be in a live action Batman Beyond
Keaton & supergirl were hands down the best part of the flash movie. Mk will always be my batman & he was awesome in the movie & if I ever watch it again I will be jumping straight to his introduction & skipping all the Ezra Miller garbage from the beginning to middle. & dispite not knowing who she was & what lil screen time she had, I thought she did great as supergirl & showed great emotion & made u feel her plight in a very small amount of time. Ezra is the problem with flash in dceu
this whole experience with michael keatons return as batman has been bittersweet to say the least
I bought and watched the new flash movie just for Keaton, but was also positively surprised by how well supergirl played her role. Keaton is my Batman just like Christopher Reeves is my Superman. Without these two, I would never rewatch this film. With these two thrown into the mix, I will most certainly give it another go every now and then. At least they did Keaton justice in this movie, because he rocked it and was portrayed in a good light with epic and well deserved scenes (and a beautiful soundtrack). I can't say the same for the latest Indiana Jones where feminism took over, sadly.
You could still have a "Batman Beyond" movie with Michael Keaton in it. In the animated version enough time has gone by for the relationship between Bruce and Terry, the new Batman, to be the main focus in a futuristic Gothem ( think "Blade Runner"). The other heroes and villians could be part of a "whatever heppened to..." scene in this or a future movie. That's a movie I'd like to see.
Flash was a good movie imho.
I agree with everything you said. But lets give credit and appreciate the fantastic performance from Michael Keaton, regardless of what you think of the movie. Michael Keaton deserves that, and not let his performance be over shadowed by everything else.
This is a great injustice to millions - perhaps even billions - of Gen-X'ers and Millennials who think BATMAN RETURNS did not wrap things up tidily enough and wanted to see Michael Keaton's Batman in his own story one more time. And almost all of the pieces were in place. Keaton had expressed interest in doing one more film with Tim Burton. Michelle Pfeiffer is still active, and her tragic figure of Selina Kyle/Catwoman deserves some closure. Even Robert Wuhl brought back his Alexander Knox character in a cameo, and would probably be thrilled to bring him back in a more substantial role. The only possible roadblock would be Kim Basinger's recent retreat from public life, but even she might be persuaded to reprise Vicki Vale.
Bottom line: Keaton's Bruce Wayne deserves to pass the torch and die honorably in his own movie. THE FLASH was the perfect chance to set that up. Instead, he died almost unceremoniously and became the setup for a punchline. I cannot express how enraged I was when George Clooney showed up.
I saw a post and watched a video and michael keaton himself said you never know
keaton lived up to every expectation and i'm greatful to've gotten the movie. wasn't all for miller but he was good. i felt like there was lots to like about it unlike critics.
Instead of the flash there should have just been a Michael Keaton batman.
Keaton will always be the actual Batman in movies! He was amazing in this movie!
Keaton was the best thing about the movie and seeing Christopher Reeves as superman again in even a glimpse
Great video.
i agree with all of it, KeaToN deserved better.
Never said Never. While I wasn’t a big fan of the last Flash Movie. Keaton Bat-Man didn’t disappoint me. I want more!
Keaton as Batman was really the only reason I gave this movie a chance. Affleck's Batman was fun to watch too but seeing Keaton after almost 30 years was the biggest draw for me. Frankly, I agree that the best utilization for Keaton would have been for a Batman Beyond movie.
If that's the last time I get to see Michael Keaton as Batman and Bruce Wayne I am completely satisfied with his performance. He was Great and I loved the Flash movie!!.
I really liked flash loved seeing og batman LOVED IT!! want him back as the Dark knight. They didn't advertise enought, I forgot all about it untill I saw a HBO Max advert
Oh my god him in Batman Beyond would make so much sense and be amazing, now that’s where I would have been excited, like you said, not in a Flash movie.
Michael Keaton is like 70. It was a miracle he came back for flash.
Keaton/Batman was the best part of the Flash, but agree with what is said in the video, he deserved more and better!
The Flash failed for so many reasons. For me, one of the biggest reasons was that Michael Keaton's Batman felt very much out of place because it wasn't a Tim Burton Batman universe.
Keaton will always be my batman
Keaton is the only Batman that really matters because he was just so damn good in that role of a character with a severe identity crisis.
I don't care much about Keaton but discontinuing Batfleck (Ben Affleck's version) and Henry Cavill's Superman is the greatest crime Warner Brother's have done.
Keaton deserved better!!
I think Gunn was to get rid of the snyderverse once and for all. Can't blame, Snyder was a mess before his daughter died.
A Batman beyond film with Michael Keaton playing an elderly Bruce Wayne could have been a huge hit for the studio. This flash movie was mediocre and Ezra was a very poor choice as Flash. Grant Gustin was much better.
I will forever be stunned that Batman Beyond didn't get rolling the second that Keaton was onboard for a return. Talk about a guaranteed money maker!