Oxxxymiron Partly Agrees with Lord Jamar on White Rappers Being Guests in Hip Hop (Part 4)
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- Опубліковано 28 гру 2017
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Russian-born rapper Oxxxymiron sat down with VladTV and explained how hip-hop has taken off in Russia over the past couple of years thanks to UA-cam and social media, and he revealed that he recently played to a crowd of over 20,000 people in Moscow.
During the conversation, Oxxxymiron shared his thoughts on embracing his culture with his music but also paying respect to the foundation of hip-hop. When asked about Lord Jamar's views on white rappers being guests in the house of hip-hop, Oxxxymiron says he both agrees and disagrees. To hear more, hit the above clip. - Розваги
This man is very educated...he knows his shit...1upOxxxy
Battle rap brought me here... shout out to OXXXY though!
Pharaoh Chin 💯
Great interview. Oxxxy's very measured and insightful. I've never heard his music or seen him battle, but his sharp analysis and eloquence here has definitely piqued my interest.
TeenageJesusSuperstr piqued
Me too 😀😀😀
Thanks for that, I was in a bit of a rush when I wrote the comment.
Nicely said
Watch Part 7: goo.gl/im8wCM
Part 6: goo.gl/o7vsxa
Part 5: goo.gl/GvefNW
Part 3: goo.gl/VTqTbz
Part 2: goo.gl/CTCa6d
Part 1: goo.gl/gUwQxY
djvlad, will we have fifth part of interviev with oxxy?
Зачем,зачем делить интервью на части... млиииин.... Мирон красавчик
There is a bad link for "Part 1". It opens the "Part 2" video. Part 1: ua-cam.com/video/i8VSguDaXfo/v-deo.html
Appreciate your channel Vlad.
His battle with Dizaster was bad ass...surprised me how dope this guy is
I can imagine that rap hits culturally in Russia because a lot of the social conditions that Rap was birthed from exist out there, I can dig it.
For sure mate, but mostly rapers in Russia are trying to pay attention on political things too carefully or they just ignore it.
That's a definitely a big part of it, but as a Russian, I can't even stress enough just how on point Oxxxy was when he was saying that Russian language is all about word-play and sophisticated ways of self-expression through language. This taps back into the roots of modern Russian language, which you can find in classical Russian literature. That's also the reason why Eminem has always been insanely popular in Russia, this is the kind of verse that Russian people can really appreciate.
CokeBoiiMontana Russia is a country of many different cultures and nationalities. On a legal level, everyone has equal constitutional rights, and no one is oppressed. On a personal level, yes, there's definitely more discrimination happening than in the States. However, I don't think it has anything to do with the system, but probably with the fact that the idea of tolerance does not permeate the society as it does in the states; and that has its own reasons, among which religion plays a part; Russian Orthodox church is not as tolerant of other faith, as Catholic church is. It is a matter of time though before it spreads, and young people today are certainly more tolerant than their parents are. However, I wouldn't say that "non-white" are seen as inferior by 95% Russians or by the government. There's no conscious oppression going on. And by the way, some rappers in Russia are Muslim too. My very first favorite Russian band as a kid was Muslim, I loved their track Паутина Власти, which is about oppression of all people by those in power. BTW, Chechens practice fundamentalist Islam, and some even radical Islamism, and they are anything but oppressed, to say the least.
CokeBoiiMontana you might be right, you obviously know more about living there. And yes, I don't personally get why the first Chechen war happened in the first place. I really think we should have let you guys get independence. Personally, I don't have a problem with Chechen people, don't get me wrong, I only have a problem with Kadyrov's government (and Putin's too, for that matter). They don't care about Russian constitution, and Russian government lets them do whatever the hell they want. Then the whole world talks about how Russian government is an accomplice in persecution of gay people. As a Russian citizen, it affects me directly, and I hate that.
I think what an average Russian wants is to be able to feed their family and be confident in their future. And they don't give a shit about Chechnya, or Ukraine, or US or anyone else. Similarly, an average American, or an average Ukrainian wants stability for themselves and don't care if the government that promises them stability bombs the hell out of some distant country. People are the same everywhere. They don't give a shit, unfortunately. I can only hope that one day US and Russian imperialism will go away, and let others live in peace.
Dude’s flow is crazy, he bodied dizaster.
he didn't body diz oxxxy won the battle 2 rounds to one round
@@teddglass4005 agreed!
Why is it so controversial to say that hip-hop is black culture yet nobody questions the fact that Muay Thai is Thai culture, anime is Japanese culture, Lucha Libre is Mexican culture, etc.?
Peter Fowler Black People will never win our genres over in comment sections; we have to take it and control by force. No one but us understands that whites who own the massive industry erase the black people who started the genres from history.
scroll through the comments and you'll see people saying "hiphop has no color" "music is music." minimizing the influence black people have made to their own art forms is nothing new. back in the day a white guy named nick larocca claimed he invented jazz; nowadays the black origins of rock and house music are all but forgotten, so I can't blame people for being protective and not wanting hip-hop to go down the same path.
Charles Charlemagne-Martel Fuck you and whoevers paying u to respond to every person that speaks the actual truth about the music WE melenated ppl created. Y'all the real parasites of the world..smfh
Charles Charlemagne-Martel uhhh yes they are stealing it
Becuase Thai is not a race, it's a nationality. Same for japanese/mexican people. Hip-Hop is a culture of African-Americans from a particular area. Black guy from Paris has nothing to do with hiphop. At the same time, puerto rican from Bronx is a key figure in hip hop history.
I ain't even Russian but my friend put me on to OXY.
so which songs of him do you listen to,my little foreign fan?)))))
Why are you getting so worked up over the fact I like him. I don't listen to much of his old songs but I listened to a few of his battle raps. I'm not Russian so I can't fully appreciate his music and battle rap but I like the small amount I've heard.
Someone must've deleted their post because I don't see any 'worked up' comment
Dj vlad is Russian and his full name is Vladimir but they call him vlad for sure
you took a good angle of him i.e. camera view makes it well felt his emotions and visible expressions in bright honest big open to the world eyes. this part of interview very curious considering that he never gives interviews in Russia. its very unusual to see him answering questions and so eagerly enthusiastic. what a pity we don't have in Russia journalists whom he could be interested and tell his opinions so clear so involved.. its seen that he is very happy to discuss all those issues around rap hip hop battles etc. thank you. really nice conversation.
Music should stand above the concepts of nationalities and skin color, it should unite people and not create new racist problems. We don't make society better with speaking of segregation in art and saying that only one kind of people can use a genre. Friendship, interaction and respect can't co-exist with such questions as "who is allowed to make rap: black or white, men or women?"
Like Oxxxy said :) My words are my opinion on the question that Vlad asked
Charles Charlemagne-Martel You mean American culture??
Charles Charlemagne-Martel there are numerous rappers who don't follow that line of subject-matter take your trolling somewhere else because you only know rap from mainstream that's your fault
This dude is wwll spoken and seems like good dude... Also Big L is my all time favorite also i like he didnt pick a generic ansewer...
Just for mentioning Big L take this thumbs up
That real brother but y'all are always welcome as long as u got bars
А почему так популярны восточные единоборства? Азиаты ведь не качают права по поводу них. Или вот балет, изначально зародившийся в Европе, который стал "визитной карточкой" России. Черные придумали одну единственную вещь за все время их существования и теперь подают плохой пример того как не надо быть хозяином в чем-то. (я не расист)
одну? Джаз, Блюз, Соул, Фанк. И это ещё не всё
Да есть еще это, но я бы не считал все эти поджанры за какую-то отдельную фигню, все они варятся в одном котле. Не прошареный человек назвал бы это все одним словом - Джаз
Черные и для появления рока много сделали, например)
Вначале очень даже качали права и гнобили тех, кто раскрывал секреты.
Dam. I wanna know what your saying. 🤔
Jamar needs to get paid by Vlad. Mad respect for Oxxxy!
Need him back on. Great guest. Very grounded in his own culture so a useful perspective. Watched a number of times.
Putin is a Tupac fan.
I don't think its putin,its his aide mr surkov.he said "The only things that interest me in the US are Tupac Shakur, Allen Ginsberg, and Jackson Pollock. I don’t need a visa to access their work. I lose nothing."
He better be
I wish Putin should throw up the wesyde and scream wesyde & Thug life
P.A.C is R.A.P
A white person with some level of respect for Afrikan people.
Bejīta afrikan?
Dimension Jester Yes lad. Afrikan.
Daemon Blackfyre you do realize Africans dont even want to be compared to African-Americans right?
Dimension Jester not really true
Kay look it up then 🤗
That was a great interview. Although I speak no Russian or Slavic, I can hear in the language that it would lend itself very well to Hip-Hop. The Slavic language is very mixed and evolved as early Russians expanded through the Steppe and conquered more people, and as those people took up the Slavic language, they influenced it. These ethnic groups to this day exist in and around Russia, making it a much more diverse country than we (as Americans) tend to think of when we think of Russia. Since before the 1600's, Russians have been colonizing the people around them, and in that process colonized a large part of the "Middle East" and large parts of Central & East Asia as well. In that process, Russia, ceased to be the "Great White Blanket" that Americans are used to imagining it being. Russian Nazis and White Supremacists never get respect in those circles because they are seen as being "tainted" by all of their Asian and Middle Eastern blood, but all that really shows is how retarded those kinds of "supremacist" groups are. Russia is a much more diverse and interesting country than we are taught here in the U.S. That to me is the real tragedy of our lack of historical knowledge. Thankfully, platforms like this help spread awareness about how much more the world has to offer, not just musically, but in every other way.
n'pans, не обижайся, бро!
Let 'em rap, everyone should be able to express themselves. If you dope you dope. I like seeing other cultures embrace hiphop. Everyone has a story.
"My personal idol was Big L". Damn now I love Oxxy lol
Big L vs Oxy that would be epic,
But L is dead unfortunately
Big Pun vs Diz woulda been kool too if Pun was still alive, He would tear that fucking roof down
О, интересные темы в этой части! Достали комменты чёрных про «рэп наш и только наш» под разными видео с Оксимироном. Наконец-то Окси им сам отвечает:)
Big Up Oxxxy Showing Love To The UK Grime Scene !
He also makes Grime Music !
+ Iv heard will have some involvement with Shotty Horrohs new UK Rap Battle League - Premier Battles
+ Check Oxxxys UK (London) boys who make Russian Grime & HipHop - Green Park Gang
Very interesting
Про Н-Панса в конце смешно.)
А я подумал на Тимоти так намекнул
kruzhka. me Тимати не чёрный, камон....
До H-Панса был ещё Джимми Джи...
Окси достаточно прогресивно мыслит
В конце он про N'Pans'a говорит?
я думаю это про тимати
Он же в другом интервью у ХуКида наоборот поправил интервьюера, сказав, что Тимати не чернокожий.
Juricius`13 Тимати не чёрный
Peter Bizkit да, именно
Peter Bizkit да да чувак. Я тоже сразу же про н`панс подумал. Читает не о чём.
Хотя трэк с Лигалайзом ПОЧУВСТВУЙ СИЛУ мне нравится
Authenticity is key
5 часть будет?
Ну наконец-то. Дождались.
I'm going to mother Russia
you should brother. If you come with open heart you will have the time of your life
My opinion. Lord Jamar is right. The very foundation of hip hop was to express the black experience in the USA. particularly New York City. Thats always going to be its soul. But i understand that hip hop has transcended color and culture. Its more than just color now. But all Lord Jamar is saying is respect its roots. I do think white people are "guest" in the house of hip hop but not like Jamar stated.... more like how Oxy said it. They are foriegn to the roots of hip hop. Its so many sub genres that it really has touched every culture and i think thats dope. I hope the culture grows more but never forget its roots
hip hop got nothing to do with black culture its about the struggles and you painting a picture of that struggle. That dude is a guest in hip hop because there aint much struggle in America, people just try to be coo by rapping about selling drugs hoes and whatever other bullshit. All these rappers dont struggle they just get locked up and rap about the same bullshit. They werent born into a struggle they chose it.
whitewash hiphop with what with real struggle and not some bullshit made up struggle in America? lmao
Hip hop dont got no color.
Yo Vlad whatever happened to that Yellowolf interview talking about Jamar?
Так генерировать свои мысли, да ещё и на английском языке - это неописуемо. Как буд то заранее готовился))
Он жил в Англии, что тут удивительного? Просто мысли грамотного человека с нормальной речью.
Да. Но некоторые знаменитые люди даже на своём родном языке не могут так выражаться.
Секрет прост: чтобы уметь ясно выражать свои мысли, нужно читать больше качественной литературы.
Misleading title again. He said he did not agree with the guest part. But he agree with LJ's view!
people were rapping in english accents LONG before grime. UK had a hip hop scene since the 80's. We had authentic white MCs LONG before slim shady. (as well as outstanding black talent).
Russia has a realness,soul.amazing films,fighters,yet to hear hip hop from Russia
Десятый год,как я веду русский хип-хоп на запад!
Влад ждём ещё 2 части)))
Захватим комментарии, ставим пальцы вверх
He gets it
HE SAID BIG L NOUGH SAID I ALWAYS SAID HE WAS WAY BETTER THAN BIG AND PAC REAL TALK
Agree
Pac and Big are good emcees but I feel they're overrated. It's not really Big's fought though he didn't live along enough to make a big catalogue. I still think Big is good MC because his freestyle is one of the best I heard. But Big L is a classic MC dam shame he died young.
smallville smallz when it comes to bars, your statement is correct.
Been saying these for years man!
Big L is massive everywhere beside the US, he's the god mc in New Zealand
Peep the "do what thou wilt" tat on his arm.
Hip hop is the culture, its our lifestyle
Face Norristown created BY BLACK PEOPLE.
the ORIGINAL hip hop was a lifestyle ..not after nwa, gangsta rap was created by white executives
how can they emulate black people when black people dont even live there bro lmao. They rap about real struggles that is going on over there. Most black people rap about pimping, dealing and robbing lol. Guess they invented that too huh
Годнота подъехала
еее бой
Ростислав Микулин хахах , это он, кажись, Тимати упомянул.
Where 2 parts?
My boi came along way from the movie split
I stumbled upon some Russian videos one night of families listening to "humble" and was cracking up laughing. The Russian mom was like "This is lit".
Grime is lit.
Smarter than the smartest American rapper. Which usually ain't saying much but this dude is actually intelligent, despite musical boundaries.
Vlad really Disrespected oxxxymiron thinking he can't pull 20,000 people by himself. Smh
If Hop- Hop was white culture, black people would be constantly reminded that they are just *"Guests"!..* ..
So I'm surprised people took serious issue over Lord Jamar's statement, (which many white people now agree with)!
I See He Got That Aleister Quote On His ForeArm though..
Oxy is dope.
About a week ago
Чёрный, белый...да хоть зелёный. Человека не определяет цвет кожи. Давно пора понять, что мы все имеем равные права. Да, хип-хоп основан чёрными, но если сейчас спросить у среднестатестического человека "каких рэп исполнителей ты знаешь?", он точно вспомнит Эминема. Напомню для особо одаренных, он белый.
А вот фраза "белые не имеют права высказывать своё мнение" вообще была отвратительной. Свобода слова есть у каждого и никто не в праве запретить человеку высказывать его мнение. И похуй на свет кожи и национальность. Это ничего не меняет
Это обычная ревность, мне так показалось. Ну не хотят они признавать белых, как бы хороши они не были. Наверное нам сложно это понять, потому что мы не в Америке. Черным пришлось пройти все круги ада в Америке и до сих пор они не чувствуют себя достаточно хорошо там, потому что все еще полно расизма
Whatever happend to good music is good music regardless of ethnicity
P Nut when was this/that? Cause the folks giving out grammies ain't never said or thought that. They go by color.
P Nut true af
P Nut you must be young
Jahmal Lajik im damn near 30 bruh
Hip-hop is a culture, not a music. Rap is the music.
if you are a hiphop head and dont know oxxyxymiron than you are probably a 69 fan. this guy can spit in multiple lanuages. including german. True hiphop head
That's kinda like saying black people are guests in America 😂😂😂
Unless you are Navajo or Cherokee (Which a lot of black people are) you are the real guest in America.
That's probably the most ignorant statement ever😂
Aquil Salaam for sure. That’s why black are scientist and rocket engineers, and whites are rappers and basketball players...
It isn't
This is dope vlad your on to something
He didnt agree much with Lord Jamar's statement lol
Chosen One he did agree. U dont agree so u trying to fix it for your own feeling. Its not just blacks these days but hip hop is black origin
BigRon TheKrit i agree that white people are sort of guests but when the heck he agreed?
Chosen One - You were right. He mostly didn't agree.
6:52 n'pans отхватил
Shit we ain’t no guests, a lot of us grew up in it
“a lot of us grew up with it”… as guests.
Rip big l
Technically whites are guest in the house of rock too...Chuck Berry and Little Richard ,old blues and jazz,,all black originated
Not even technically. We are Rock!
There is one reason that any place on this earth is a shit hole....And that reason is white greed and destruction. Your history books obviously don't start at the real beginning.
Charles Charlemagne-Martel you seem butthurt.
Charles Charlemagne-Martel and the moors were here first. They took columbus western world.
Charles Charlemagne-Martel you idiot whites aren't from this west either what the fuck is wrong with you. Dumd ass.
Lmaoooooo this topic again
The ability to be appropriated is the main characteristic of culture as a human kind phenomenon. So if you say: don't appropriate my culture, I can ask you: is your culture a culture if it can't be appropriated?
It's just cultural philosophy. So keep calm and don't use such sentenses as «only whites; steal everything; ect» There is a lot of emotion in these words but there is no reason.
Какие важные, эти чёрные реперы
Hip hop is for everybody no matter what color you are. Music should bring people together not separate us. With that being said go Search Windy Kush and check out a few of my videos. Up & coming artist from Chicago. Much love. Fuck the trolls 👌🏻👍🏻💪
In France we don't worry about those issues that americans have. if you're nice you're nice point blank. if you're wack we get rid of you. but we all know where it came from.
Selma TBE bitches.
Selma Hip hop is still BLACK AMERICAN , MUCIC AND CULTUTE.
Xavier Zee are you wacko? France provides free education and a lot support to former colonies, because they feel guilty? Where the fuck did you dig this info, which you just said?
Selma That's good
V Nasty could out rap Lord Jamar any day of the week.
Hip Hop just poets with a bits. It doesn`t mean that black guy have right to think like that. People of the whole world have right to make music and rules.
hip hop is poetry with a beat yeah and who created poetry ? lmao. The greeks and shit so fuk most of the people are hella ignorant here lol
Interesting. Are black people guests in the United States?
J-Kay We're all guests. This land belongs to the native americans.
NO NIGGA WHITE PEOPLE ARE GUESTS TO THE UNITED STATES AND THEY STOLE BLACK PEOPLE WHICH BUILD UNITED STATES
Charles Charlemagne-Martel Man, stop watching the history channel. Listening to these Caucasian shows telling you bedtime stories. Yall don't belong here. This is for the indigenous people. That's why whites gotta wear sun tan lotion and get skin cancer at a higher rate than other races here. Why, cuz there skin can't take the sun over here at all. Mexicans, Indians, and Africans are used to this heat and the sun. White folks belong in the Caucus Mountains. Get ya facts right
Guest in hip hop, jazz, blues, rock, country,... I mean. That's the reality but people will get mad if you say it.
Guests? That is a load of crap. I have seen blacks, whites, Hispanics all there at the beginning of shaping this thing we call hip-hop. We all learn and grow from one another. Cut the "guest" crap out. Music is music.
Tevin Carter it's not stealing Tevin. You don't get it yet but I hope you will but, music has no color. Hip-hop brings people together, all over the world. Don't be blinded by differences.
black rappers are literally never going to recover from Eminem's album sales during his heyday.
Damn.... Vlad is still milking this Lord Jamar clip! ahhahaah jk great interview
He can pass an american , his accent is great.
his Russian accent in his British English is great.
I think some people in hip hop want to avoid what happened with Rock and Roll where you have Elvis proclaimed as King when LIL Richard and Chuck Berry were its "Architect" and "Father". But Black Music has kept growing and evolving and changing and has always dictated where American music will go next. Our biggest problem has been the same people who have supported our music, buisness wise, have also ripped us off and help destroy the lives of people who invent that music. But the "mother" 'and "father" of all American music is Gospel music and the Blues..everything after, and even Country music to a degree, derived from those two forms of Black Music.
oxxxy: (you know)^365
Crazy how hip hop has impacted the world and all these forigners trying to emulate americans
ооо нет, никогда не слушал рэп, ведь круче рока ничего нет
И че
SPLIT.
Murda mook tried calling out ox after he saw the success of the dizaster battle. A culture vulture move from a guy that's seen in a different light in the battle rap world.
Mook’s been around since the smack dvd era. How is he a culture vulture fool? The nigga’s trying to get that chicken 🐔
Aquil Salaam Blue Eyed Blonde Haired Person: "I'm Cherokee...because you know...my ancestors were a bunch orlf rapists but hey its all good, I'm Cherokee..."
jojocapone973 you're definitely pathetic if you still write nigga with a hard E R in 2017. But then again you're prolly a suburban skater boy
I love it when white people do that, it just lets me know they don't know what things like "Context" are, as well as the fact that most of them are racist but afraid to express this (offline).
Mook is goat at this shit wtf .. he can call out who he want
Only clicked cuz he look like the nigga from Split in the thumbnail
Бляя, и ради этого я переехал жить в США, чтобы даже здесь о них слушать
Vlad you need to do your research on U.K. rap. The London Posse, and many others were rapping in English accents in the late 80s. Get Rodney P on the chair
Vlad - "O.....Kay...."
Blacks are guest in America but we let them voice there opinion and blacks segregate themselves through rap by saying rap is for black people but why can't all races do it
White boys in they feelings lol
1:25 Who does he say his personal Idol was? Big L?
Big L is a lyrical mastermind
Про какого черного репера он сказал?
N Pans
This dude must be a spy, he know four languages lol
Привет Нпансу)))))
Ooo shyt! I thought Oxxxy only spoke English when he Rapped.
Title misleading he didn’t agree with Jamar
How are white ppl guests in hip hop when one of the biggest rap groups (Beastie Boys) came out before this generation was born? White ppl have always been in the rap culture. You don’t see ppl saying black ppl are guests in rock and country music. Quit hatin and get over the fact that white ppl can rap too
How can blacks people be guests in Rock when they invented it… ? And because of the way white people took it over we make sure only a few of you get in. And no, white people came after - WELL after.
Go watch Crazy Legs’ Drink Champs interview and tell me one white artist he named who was there at the beginning…