Apparently bigger boats had actual physicians assigned as crew. I found this out in reading the book on U-505 (A type IX) written by one of the crew. This is the sub that ended up captured and is now at the Chicago Museum of Science.
Thank you! Had an organic hierarchy manifest for most patrols in SH3. Was aware that this aspect was perhaps historically inaccurate. Really grateful to learn some of the more historic examples.
You do see the Electric Motor officer in Das Boot. He is the one ribbing the Chief about how much fuel is being used and the chief calls him a a******. He is one of the few characters always in a uniform.
I'm going to say it's because of the additional training required in the U-boat service, people are going to have a little more time in service so higher in rank and you probably wanted more senior people since U-boats are complex to operate and maintain.
You are correct! I chose the logo because it was the emblem for the U-124. The crew of the U-124 had previously been the crew for the U-64, which was sunk during the Norway campaign by a swordfish from Warspite. German alpine troops saw the submarine going down in the fjord and rescued the crew. Out of gratitude, when the submarine crew moved to the U-124 they adopted the edelweiss as their boat emblem. It's expained in "Grey Wolf, Grey Sea" by EB Gasaway - the first book I read about U-boats :)
I'd also add that, I am thinking about a more professional logo for the channel, a submarine silhouette that incorporates the current logo. Have to see how the aubscribership goes but fingers crossed!
That is the minimum number of personnel for a Type II. Could you have an engineering officer training assigned for a patrol to get experience? Possible but more likely in a Type VII or IX. The range was so short and they operated close enough to Germany you didn't have a need for ersatz crew or specialists like doctors.
Normally just the engineering officer maybe with an assistant LI who was training up for his own boat. Maybe something like the IXD/2 had an assistant. I haven't looked at that case.
So there's a little mistake in the Movie "Das Boot"? In the Bar Royale, the 1st Officer reports to the Captn, that the various supplies have completed. Isn't that the responsibility of the 2nd or is it because 1WO is second in command?
Apparently bigger boats had actual physicians assigned as crew. I found this out in reading the book on U-505 (A type IX) written by one of the crew. This is the sub that ended up captured and is now at the Chicago Museum of Science.
Thank you! Had an organic hierarchy manifest for most patrols in SH3. Was aware that this aspect was perhaps historically inaccurate. Really grateful to learn some of the more historic examples.
You're welcome! SH3 did take that first step towards simulating the crew environment but this makes you think how much better they could have done it.
Awesome stuff
You do see the Electric Motor officer in Das Boot.
He is the one ribbing the Chief about how much fuel is being used and the chief calls him a a******.
He is one of the few characters always in a uniform.
It's been awhile since I've watched, but I'll go back and look at it. What made you realize he was the eMotor chief?
14:00 Interesting that there are more than twice as many "ober-" machinengefreiter as ordinary ranks. Why the doubling of the higher ranks?
I'm going to say it's because of the additional training required in the U-boat service, people are going to have a little more time in service so higher in rank and you probably wanted more senior people since U-boats are complex to operate and maintain.
This may be a silly question, but why do you have an Edelweiss? Wasn't it a sign of the Alpine Corps?
You are correct! I chose the logo because it was the emblem for the U-124. The crew of the U-124 had previously been the crew for the U-64, which was sunk during the Norway campaign by a swordfish from Warspite. German alpine troops saw the submarine going down in the fjord and rescued the crew. Out of gratitude, when the submarine crew moved to the U-124 they adopted the edelweiss as their boat emblem. It's expained in "Grey Wolf, Grey Sea" by EB Gasaway - the first book I read about U-boats :)
Good question, good answer.
I'd also add that, I am thinking about a more professional logo for the channel, a submarine silhouette that incorporates the current logo. Have to see how the aubscribership goes but fingers crossed!
7:05 So this is the minimum number of crew to operate the boat? Anyone else onboard was in a sense optional?
That is the minimum number of personnel for a Type II. Could you have an engineering officer training assigned for a patrol to get experience? Possible but more likely in a Type VII or IX. The range was so short and they operated close enough to Germany you didn't have a need for ersatz crew or specialists like doctors.
According to the book of Bucheim, there is a 2nd engineering officer on board. So the LI could take some time off duty.
Normally just the engineering officer maybe with an assistant LI who was training up for his own boat. Maybe something like the IXD/2 had an assistant. I haven't looked at that case.
It's made clear in the book that the 2LI is there to prep for his own boat. There was not normally two engineering officers
I think they leave that out of the movie for time reasons.
So there's a little mistake in the Movie "Das Boot"?
In the Bar Royale, the 1st Officer reports to the Captn, that the various supplies have completed.
Isn't that the responsibility of the 2nd or is it because 1WO is second in command?
There would have been several kinds of provisions not just food so each responsible person probably reported to the 1WO who in turn reported to the CO