Having a 800V system does not automatically double charging speed over a 400V one: for 800V, you need twice as many cells in series and each cell will be half the capacity for the same total battery kWh. If you cut cell size in half, charging current usually also gets cut roughly in half. Power density limitation is why most EVs can only charge at 100-150kW for the bulk of their cycle even on 800V. Unless the battery cell design itself has improvements for higher power density, net charging speed will remain about the same. The main benefit of 800V is smaller and lighter HVDC power cables and bus bars between HVDC components.
So from 98% to 980%! Nice! If you can't make batteries 10x less heavy per kwh we increase the efficiency of motors to ~10x over unity! Now surely it is going to be a viable option for ice cars, an 100y developed technology that is @ its cleanest ever!
Maybe they should consider pairing the older version with an axle for the rear and an axle with turning for the front that can be retrofit into cars. Certainly it could be done cheaper than buying a new car. Plus you'd get to keep the vintage cars on the road. Edison motors is doing this through deboss garage using 1-ton truck axles to be able to convert existing work trucks to electric hybrids.
Where did the extra 67% come from? Any three-phase electric motor, whether induction or synchronous, compared to an internal combustion engine has an efficiency above 95%. The unfortunate thing is that they still use gears...
The lightest and with the most torque for a given size and weight are axial flux electric motors. For example, a Hyper9 radial flux motor weighs 120 lbs but compares poorly against an EMRAX 228 axial flux motor which is 90 lbs lighter, generates higher power and torque but comes in a compact package that is less than half the length of the Hyper9. The Hyper9 is an excellent motor, but basically the same as motors designed a hundred years ago but with better materials. there are many companies now developing and introducing axial flux electric motors, including Mercedes. Higher rpms is not the best solution as it results in unwanted rotational torques (flywheel effects) and greater bearing wear.
The higher the volts the more efficient it is yes, however the danger of 800volts is scary, faster explosions and fires, ev's already explode or catch fire quick enough, at 800 volts it will catch fire or explode at a faster rate, not to mention if you drive through water at 800volts the danger of getting shocked dead increase exponentially if the battery cradle has a puncture or hole in it..
2 ways : 1 ) build a composite that had half as motor and half as generator so fuel less never need recharge the second way is 2 ) use permanent magnet arrange the stator at an angke and straght to sstop and agnle to rotate
While new motors are exciting, the Toyota bZ4X already delivers efficient and reliable performance. With its advanced design and focus on safety, it’s a leader in the EV space.
All these EVs are expensive fun toys, but until there is significant improvements in either battery tech or any onboard power source that can make electricity, these EVs are primarily expensive toys for the wealthy with the lower class that don't have Evs, paying higher energy bills because of the increased demand on the power grid to charge these EVs. The now old proven hybrid tech that didn't require using external charging continues to work perfectly on the Toyota Prius and is not only getting 50 plus miles per gallon of gas , but decreasing the carbon emission by way more than 50%. And they are not expensive compared to similar gas vehicles. AND they can travel more than 600 miles before needing to make a quick fuel stop. One of the big incentive killer on these EVs is the already long and painful wait to just get to a charger than having to wait over an hour if you want a complete charge. Many real life tests have shown these recharge times of more like 2 hours and that's every 200 miles, which is absurd. This EV push by the government is insane when hybrid tech works not only 3 times better in range, but 10 times better in refueling stops and 50 to 100% better in cost to buy..
The new motor is designed to be more sustainable, with fewer emissions during the manufacturing process. The Toyota bZ4X and other electric vehicles could benefit from this, furthering Toyota’s commitment to eco-friendly, zero-emission driving.
The problem is not the motor. It is and always has been the battery. Until they can match the capacity and refueling time of I Cs they won't be practical for anything outside of urban transportation.
Lol Tesla has a better motor it just came out with it breaks the o to 60 mph in under 2 seconds the first and only ev motor to do that and the life of the motor is off the chart with its carbon wrapped motor
kept hearing of breakthrough every week for several years now but we hardly see anything on dealer lot beside Tesla. Let settle down on a configuration then fast track mass production . Time is running out as the Chinese are eating all the pie.
"Magna, Manga, Monga" only 1 minute 43 seconds and three times Magna has been pronounced incorrectly. Correct you're spelling in AI text to speech or hire someone that knows how to spell correctly. It's lazy and unprofessional
Will you put it in my short bus. I have some ideas you'll live and appreciate. I've been seeking grants but there's nothing for what I want to do. I need a Sponcer if we can work out a win win. I'd love for you to Spencer me.
I'm fairly confident that most of the suspiciously frequently EV-related 'breakthroughs' we hear about are little more than transparent investor traps. A means to pump up the stock market value of an existing company, or make an unearned name for a brand new one, before financial or technological realities reveal their revolutionary creation to be little more than vaporware.
EVs and hydrogen without infrastructure are junk. Hybrids are the best short term answer until batteries and infrastructure catch up.The Steam engine went extinct in the 40s and diesel electric locomotives have been their replacement since them. Diesel electric IS a hybrid !!! Today, Edison Motors has a succesful hybrid logging truck that beats the Tesla in both power and fuel economy and most importantly, and it is lighter than the standard trans truck NRA. No range anxiety. Get it straight .. The infrastructure TODAY CAN NOT support EVs or hydrogen but hybrids can and are doing it with no infrastructure change with BETTER FUEL ECONOMY WITH PROVEN TECHNOLOGY
Trick question: Which of the 3 basic EV drivetrains (all-battery BEV, hydrogen fuel cell HFCEV, plug-in hybrid PHEV) offers most benefits, applications and potential to reduce fuel/energy consumption AND insane traffic? Your answer here __ __ __ __ __ WRONG!! The correct answer is PHEV plug-in hybrid eventually evolving to PHEV+H (combustible hydrogen & small-scale fuel cell matched to small battery PHEV packs). Put simply, "The whole is greater than the sum of its parts." Aristotle
An endlessly repetitive and technically inaccurate AI script with a strange liking for the word 'however' used unnecessarily all over the place. It would have been nice if the key word - Magna - had not been replaced from time to time with 'manga' or even 'magma.'
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most e drive trains I know are some what between 92% to 98% efficient. What do you mean by 10x more efficient in the title of the video? I
Clearly fictional
9.8 🤣
marketing lies
No thanks please give me a 426 Hemi instead! 😎
Is there a way to give ten negative points for lying to get attention?
Having a 800V system does not automatically double charging speed over a 400V one: for 800V, you need twice as many cells in series and each cell will be half the capacity for the same total battery kWh. If you cut cell size in half, charging current usually also gets cut roughly in half. Power density limitation is why most EVs can only charge at 100-150kW for the bulk of their cycle even on 800V. Unless the battery cell design itself has improvements for higher power density, net charging speed will remain about the same.
The main benefit of 800V is smaller and lighter HVDC power cables and bus bars between HVDC components.
So from 98% to 980%! Nice! If you can't make batteries 10x less heavy per kwh we increase the efficiency of motors to ~10x over unity! Now surely it is going to be a viable option for ice cars, an 100y developed technology that is @ its cleanest ever!
I think it's better to not focus much on battery, it's better to focus more on producing electricity effectively.
Maybe they should consider pairing the older version with an axle for the rear and an axle with turning for the front that can be retrofit into cars. Certainly it could be done cheaper than buying a new car. Plus you'd get to keep the vintage cars on the road. Edison motors is doing this through deboss garage using 1-ton truck axles to be able to convert existing work trucks to electric hybrids.
Where did the extra 67% come from? Any three-phase electric motor, whether induction or synchronous, compared to an internal combustion engine has an efficiency above 95%. The unfortunate thing is that they still use gears...
Where is the overunity motor that replaces the battery ????
The lightest and with the most torque for a given size and weight are axial flux electric motors. For example, a Hyper9 radial flux motor weighs 120 lbs but compares poorly against an EMRAX 228 axial flux motor which is 90 lbs lighter, generates higher power and torque but comes in a compact package that is less than half the length of the Hyper9. The Hyper9 is an excellent motor, but basically the same as motors designed a hundred years ago but with better materials. there are many companies now developing and introducing axial flux electric motors, including Mercedes.
Higher rpms is not the best solution as it results in unwanted rotational torques (flywheel effects) and greater bearing wear.
What cost level are these better Electric motors ?
The higher the volts the more efficient it is yes, however the danger of 800volts is scary, faster explosions and fires, ev's already explode or catch fire quick enough, at 800 volts it will catch fire or explode at a faster rate, not to mention if you drive through water at 800volts the danger of getting shocked dead increase exponentially if the battery cradle has a puncture or hole in it..
I wouldn’t have used a video clip of a bankrupt EV car company’s (Fisker) vehicle when introducing Magna at 0:28. Just saying.
2 ways : 1 ) build a composite that had half as motor and half as generator so fuel less never need recharge the second way is 2 ) use permanent magnet arrange the stator at an angke and straght to sstop and agnle to rotate
A-1 next time use a person and then edit. So efficient that you never have to charge it!
Is this Model has no Recharging apparatus when the whickw is under tunning onthe Road
When Tesla and BYD starts to use this Magna motor, then it must be superior.
I don't think the Fisker Ocean is using these drives presently
efficient electric motor ? - The battery remains the weak link....
While new motors are exciting, the Toyota bZ4X already delivers efficient and reliable performance. With its advanced design and focus on safety, it’s a leader in the EV space.
All these EVs are expensive fun toys, but until there is significant improvements in either battery tech or any onboard power source that can make electricity, these EVs are primarily expensive toys for the wealthy with the lower class that don't have Evs, paying higher energy bills because of the increased demand on the power grid to charge these EVs. The now old proven hybrid tech that didn't require using external charging continues to work perfectly on the Toyota Prius and is not only getting 50 plus miles per gallon of gas , but decreasing the carbon emission by way more than 50%. And they are not expensive compared to similar gas vehicles. AND they can travel more than 600 miles before needing to make a quick fuel stop. One of the big incentive killer on these EVs is the already long and painful wait to just get to a charger than having to wait over an hour if you want a complete charge. Many real life tests have shown these recharge times of more like 2 hours and that's every 200 miles, which is absurd. This EV push by the government is insane when hybrid tech works not only 3 times better in range, but 10 times better in refueling stops and 50 to 100% better in cost to buy..
Thank you ❤
Oh hey I used to work at magna, they were my 2nd job, that place sucked
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where is that motor
I am waiting for a nuke battery that never needs charging
Nobody mentions Magna could not produce Fisker's Ocean to ordered numbers!? Whapping 20000 RPM.....Is Tesla not doing similar RPM?
I don’t have a problem with electric motors, I have a problem with the batteries especially those that have thermal runaway.
The new motor is designed to be more sustainable, with fewer emissions during the manufacturing process. The Toyota bZ4X and other electric vehicles could benefit from this, furthering Toyota’s commitment to eco-friendly, zero-emission driving.
Questionable video. Does the motor have an impact on the battery charge? Should not… like gas tank capacity have nothing to do with engine
The problem is not the motor. It is and always has been the battery. Until they can match the capacity and refueling time of I Cs they won't be practical for anything outside of urban transportation.
Very untrue.
Magna should try to dissociate itself from the Jaguar iPace. Widely considered a lemon, with zero updates since it was launched.
Lol Tesla has a better motor it just came out with it breaks the o to 60 mph in under 2 seconds the first and only ev motor to do that and the life of the motor is off the chart with its carbon wrapped motor
At 04:51
Looks like an Internal Combustion Engine to me!
Not an electric motor!
That is going backwards.Less parts would be better.
Long Range comes from lower horsepower and travel speed. The GREEN mission is economy .
kept hearing of breakthrough every week for several years now but we hardly see anything on dealer lot beside Tesla. Let settle down on a configuration then fast track mass production . Time is running out as the Chinese are eating all the pie.
And why need so much battery power 10 times 24 volt 100 ah will do just fine
Compare to Lucid the world leader, then we can chat.
The narrator called it Manga, Magna, and Monga. I found that quite funny. Just saying.
What on Earth is meant by "kilowatts per hour"?
I didn't know you could charge motor 😂
What about super cap batteries and raxial motors to beat gasoline engines and climate change 😊
Would have been better if the content of the video lived up to the title, rather than a mash up of clips from other sources that weren't relevant
"Tetsuooooooo!....😂😂😂
Still not gonna buy a ev and nobody is gonna force me to have one… defund the EPA!!!
No thanks please give me a 426 Hemi instead! 😎
Poor pronunciation by bot some times
And a very nonprofessional video with distorted facts. Obviously, the creator let an AI do it, while, he / she have no idea what is it about.
I heard "Magna" "Manga" & "Monga" before I stopped watching at 1:45.
something fishy in the claims. looks like the company advertisement
Dyi the burning battery
"Magna, Manga, Monga" only 1 minute 43 seconds and three times Magna has been pronounced incorrectly. Correct you're spelling in AI text to speech or hire someone that knows how to spell correctly. It's lazy and unprofessional
That’s an AI voice for you.
Was about to post the same thing. 👍 Cheapens the entire video.
Yep you beat me to it. Disgraceful mistakes
@@michaelvanstiphout5507yes but the script must be full of errors . The Ai is only as good as the script it reads
What the Zune was to the iPod?
I did not watch the video, buy I know current electric motor has an efficiency of 90%.
Sounds like the 800v motor will benefit the $$$ costly EVs... until the tech cost can be reduced.
It is still ages behind Tesla efficient motors of 97% efficiency. The video is deceitful.
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Video is very fast 😔
Compare it to Tesla, the gold standard...
Hydrogens more the future, even cleaner
Nice.
Will you put it in my short bus. I have some ideas you'll live and appreciate. I've been seeking grants but there's nothing for what I want to do. I need a Sponcer if we can work out a win win. I'd love for you to Spencer me.
I'm fairly confident that most of the suspiciously frequently EV-related 'breakthroughs' we hear about are little more than transparent investor traps. A means to pump up the stock market value of an existing company, or make an unearned name for a brand new one, before financial or technological realities reveal their revolutionary creation to be little more than vaporware.
Mitsubishi-Magna 😂
Just tool. Dont make shirik.
dude keeps saying MANGA, then MAGNA, stick to the theme buddy!
Karl Light
good copium script
Don't believe the hype. Silly video talking at great length about a few tweaks.
Putting gears inside an electromotor is STOOOPIID!!!
EVs and hydrogen without infrastructure are junk.
Hybrids are the best short term answer until batteries and infrastructure catch up.The Steam engine went extinct in the 40s and diesel electric locomotives have been their replacement since them. Diesel electric IS a hybrid !!! Today, Edison Motors has a succesful hybrid logging truck that beats the Tesla in both power and fuel economy and most importantly, and it is lighter than the standard trans truck NRA. No range anxiety.
Get it straight .. The infrastructure TODAY CAN NOT support EVs or hydrogen but hybrids can and are doing it with no infrastructure change with BETTER FUEL ECONOMY WITH PROVEN TECHNOLOGY
Emard Plains
Using AI for this type of video. 😅
Trick question: Which of the 3 basic EV drivetrains (all-battery BEV, hydrogen fuel cell HFCEV, plug-in hybrid PHEV) offers most benefits, applications and potential to reduce fuel/energy consumption AND insane traffic?
Your answer here __ __ __ __ __
WRONG!!
The correct answer is PHEV plug-in hybrid eventually evolving to PHEV+H (combustible hydrogen & small-scale fuel cell matched to small battery PHEV packs). Put simply, "The whole is greater than the sum of its parts." Aristotle
Fairy tales.
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LOL……
An endlessly repetitive and technically inaccurate AI script with a strange liking for the word 'however' used unnecessarily all over the place. It would have been nice if the key word - Magna - had not been replaced from time to time with 'manga' or even 'magma.'