On top of removing the coin edge and cathedral hands robbing it of any personality. Oris really needs to work on their line up structure and naming conventions it's quickly becoming and absolute mess...
The design language goes back to the 1950-ies including hands, arrow date pointer, fonts and the relative small size. Even the calibre number logic is consistent to the pointer date calibre of the 450 series was 453. Modern and excellent reinterpretation!
Its perfect! Man I love what Oris is doing, they are just knocking it out of the park. Now if they can shoehorn that movement into a 39.5 Aquis I might be tempted to get another one. *Teddy* I wish you guys did custom straps, I hate having to order some endangered species from Vietnam and crossing my fingers that it makes it to my door.
I have the Sellita powered pointer date with the oxblood dial with reindeer and absolutely love it. This cal 403 version is just something else entirely. That dial with the pencil hands and small seconds looks exquisite. I think having a subtle visual difference between the Sellita and cal 40X models is a design decision by Oris to make it clear as to what timepiece houses which movement without a search for a small "5 Days" text in the dial. The Aquis 400 date has a fume style dial that fades darker towards the edge and a larger date window nearer the rehaut with this version swapping the hands from cathedral to arguably more modern pencil shows the difference and that makes sense to me. I still prefer the cathedral hands though. I have experience of the Aquis cal 400 and have been very impressed with it. I'm not sure if I can cur.rently justify another pointer date yet but this is certainly on my radar. Definitely the finish and crystal are great but as you say the lume only gets a 'B' if it's the same as my Sellita model. I must confess I am tempted by this model.
In the flesh this looks awesome. It's no longer on my list though as it's now on my wrist. The overall execution is way better than the spec sheet. It will not replace my Oxblood dial Sellita based cathedral hand pointer date model with the coin edge bezel. It will complement it.
To me, the only thing I’d like to see a change is 100m wr since it already has the screw down crown, and I’d love to see a more sporty type of metal bracelet. Otherwise, another home run for Oris, one of my favorite brands!
Oris have been smart. Tudor have the dive watch market sewn up in this price bracket. Oris and Longines with the Spirit range are positioning themselves in that bracket, but not placing themselves in direct competition with the Black Bay range.
Needs the crescent 🌙 and coin edge and that 403. And if I am making demands.. please 100 meters. Who am I kidding? I bought this watch and love it as is.
I think my opinion here is going to be quite different, but i really like this new release by Oris. This looks very much similar to the military field watches of WW2 with the railway track small seconds, long slim hour and minute hands and the roman numerals for the hour markers. I like everything that this release brings, much more than what the previous gen pointer date brought. Perhaps it feels much less a Oris pointer date, but much more a vintage inspired field watch release but thats what i like more.
Great take. I really like the 400 series movement. There's been some criticism about the quirky time setting on them, but it isn't either difficult or time consuming to set them to the second. The accuracy is fantastic, and the ten year warranty doesn't hurt.
To anyone that thinks 38 mm is small; Please take my advise and let the watch space be a better one; I am 6 foot 3, almost 245 pounds of muscle and I have gotten rid of all my large sized watches, 38 mm for a watch without a bezel is for a mature man who will keep a watch in his collection and not sell it on as he matures. I do agree that larger sized diameters are needed as a bezel is included, however, the lug to lug does suffer. If you are on the larger size, what happens when you lose weight?
A modern take on the Big Crown Pointer Date. But I'd have preferred the Caliber 400 inside a classic Big Pointer Date with all the features that give that design its character: cathedral hands; coin edge bezel; crescent date pointer. I'm not really interested in where this watch sits in the market and although it extends the choice available in the range, I wouldn't really agree that some kind of more unique market positioning makes it a better watch.
Nobody. 50 m means a medium level of protection - they will survive active wash hands, a moderate rain, an inevitable shower or an occasional falling in a pool, no more.
All the dates above the 9 o'clock-to-3 o'clock line "sit atop" the railroad track, and all the dates below that line "hang below" the track -- except for the 24th, which breaks the pattern. Oris need to flip the 24 so it matches the other dates 9-23.
It seems to have a similar problem with Aquis. When you pull out the crown, the second hand moves and the same thing will happen when you push back the crown. Needs to be revised or corrected by Oris.
Amazing watch... I don't think it will replace the older pointer dates, because it costs double the money. I hope you make a review of the new Cervo Volante 38mm which is another beautiful piece.
Love this watch. I wasn't a fan of the cathedral hands, but I did like the crescent pointer. Everything else is perfect. I had a short list of 2 watches the Longines Spirit in titanium and the RGM 151 in white. Now the Oris Big Crown is the front runner. Thanks Teddy.
Really love the design of this Oris. Sword hands for the win compared to the cathedral. A watch that I come back to regularly as a potential purchase in the future.
Does this also have the caliber 400 Jumping hands quirk where when setting time you need to go past the time you want and then go back to the correct time?
It's a start. The size for me is perfect and I'm very interested in the movement. The colour does not wow me, I prefer the first one half moon-pointer and the cathedral hands. Would be interested in an upgraded bracelet, 10bar (which I know is asking too much) and get some gilt involved and I'm in! Do it, Oris!
I've been in the water with my 16 year old Timex rated 50m well over a thousand times in watersport situations: diving board, surf, etc. Are you saying the Swiss can't match Timex quality control?
@@DonaldPerley Huh? I didn't say that, so no. Do a little research into WR ratings; you implied you thought the number was the actual depth rating but in practice it is not unless it's undergone ISO 6425 tests.
@@OwynDavies WR rating is the depth the watch is designed for. One big difference with an ISO rated diver is that EVERY watch is tested at some percentage over the depth rating. There are other requirements related to helping the watch keep you alive, but not WR as such. You need to be able to tell if the watch is running, usually done with a big blob of lume on the second hand. There's a minimum force the spring bars have to take before failing, and the same with the crown. The big issue with non "Diver" watches is that most mfr's will not test every watch (or any?) so YOUR watch meeting the rating is dependent on the manufacturer's quality control. If QC is bad enough, it doesn't matter if the rating is 10 meters or 300 meters, because it's really zero if, for example a gasket isn't in straight. As I said, that 50m Timex is rated 10x what I take it to, and has been 100% reliable for thousands of trips to the water.
Is it me or are watches now getting smaller again? 38mm but is more like a 37mm. Too small for me. I have just got a new MAEN Brooklyn with blue textured face. Lovely and I think good value. It's 38mm which is just about ok for me but the overall case size is not big enough I think.
I would love to see a regular day date month (Like IWC Annual) complication on a slightly larger case with this movement. A lot to like here with their new movement, warranty and styling. Good job ORIS.
The watch looks great. However, it lost many things that I loved about the old one. For example, the bezel and the center seconds hand. In addition to that, the movement may be a better one but the price also went up significantly. You could and still get the old one for around 1000- 1200 Euros. I will eventually buy the old one with the stunning red dial.
Aesthetically, this model lacks the 'retro' character present in the previous Big Crown Pointer line-up-which to me was the real appeal of these Oris watches. The 403 may 'tick all the boxes' as far as appealing to those who desire a more modern (contemporary) styling, but I find the appearance more pedestrian and considerably less compelling at nearly twice the price.
Tons of watchmakers tested and stated the 400 movements don’t last 5 days as manufacturer claimed them to be. Still someone keep pushing them on UA-cam!
The only thing I didn't like about the older model, was the coin edge bezel. So the fixed that problem with this model. But please Oris, put back those cathedral hands and the U shaped date hand. And I will be a buyer!!! 120 hour power reserve is great aswell.
Everything about this watch is improved but I do miss the old hands, I love the small seconds but I wish they would’ve kept the old style pointer date hand and the cathedral hands! Ugghhh I would’ve bought it in a heartbeat if they kept the hands!
It's interesting that people criticise the Longines Sector for its cut off 6, but one of the alternatives would of clearly been this (something ID guy mentioned in his video) a small second complication that kinda looks ridicolous, shrunk and squeezed in as it is.
What’s old is new again. If you look at the original 1938-1945 big crown versions they looked exactly like this (hands, sub seconds, dial layout and numerals). This is not a modern remake but a trip to the archives to reproduce something that once was the standard.
I would totally get this if it was 44mm lug to lug and GMT. Pointer date is awesome and I want one but I want a GMT like this much more. There is a purpose in my collecting that this watch is prefect for. I would love both complications but having both on the dial would be too busy. Another subdial would ruin the clean dial.
Thank you, Teddy. As always, a great model overview. I like this model, and you can hear it coming, but…. I very much like the absence of a date window that the pointer date system affords. However, with such a fine blue watch dial, I find the bright red pointer on the date hand rather unfortunate. I wonder what this model would look like with a simple white pointer that would pair well with the numbers on the dial, a pointer that could be filled with luminous material. I believe that the uniformity of color would be striking. Thank you for allowing me my opinion. All my best.
Great movement upgrade but Oris gave up some of the design features that made the Pointer Date a special, unique watch, especially the crescent date pointer. Uniqueness is a characteristic I seek in watch purchases, so that is a disappointment for me.
Just the review I was waiting for. When Oris introduced the revamped pionterdate in 2018 I was blown away , especially with the blue dial on a steel bracelet. The design for me was nothing short of perfection. The issues I had with it though were the size ( it wore bigger on the wrist than 40mm would suggest) and the uninspiring base sellita movement. Once the calibre 400 was introduced I was waiting for it to get into the pointer date family. And now it is, fixing the two main issues I had with the previous model. BUT ALAS!!!! All the design elements that blew me away in the beginning are gone- no fluted bezel, no cathedral hands, no central second, no crescent pointer date. Now it is a much better watch technically and wears much better on my wrist, but it does absolutely NOTHING to me, well except for frustration maybe. I won’t get this watch in this iteration. Please oris listen to the fans- keep the dimensions, keep the movement but change the case and dial design back to the older model. You did it with the Aquis, why not here??
@@fadiinspace the brown/black dial is exactly the one I've been eyeballing for months. It's going to be my first (somewhat) luxury watch purchase, so I want this to be a keeper. And as nice as, for example, the minty green dial might be: I'd probably be over it in no time.
def more modern than classic and almost reminds me of the Hamilton Khaki that I can get for a lot cheaper. Couldn't be more disappointed. I also doubt they offer a coin bezel limited edition and opt for color variant releases like they did with the previous version.
It’s a handsome watch for sure and the movement is great. But the price. 3.4k is a retail for a Tudor BB58 on a leather strap and Tudor is a better all around watch. For that price it should be at least on a nicely finished bracelet though. Otherwise, well done Oris!
Great job! Going to check out Christopers Jewlery (Des Moines) this weekend and search for this watch! Will let you know if like or not once tried on wrist! Thanks to reviews loving them much!
This is really nice but the OG Pointer Date is far superior in my opinion. Missing the coin edge and cathedral hands, although that new Calibre 403 movement is superb. Also, for a £2500 price point they should of upped the 50 metre water resistance.
Anyone else MUCH prefer the old design? This one seems to have far less character and charm. It also looks more like a longines. Whereas the original pointer date was more unique
Bam! Great video and I am really liking the recent format. Is this the perfect sized watch? Seems like it. Nothing about this watch makes me dislike it! Crystal? A bit too much distortion at the bottom, the 50m water resistance is silly considering the screw down crown and yes, the 19mm lug width isn’t ideal but it makes the watch proportions sooo good. What a watch. BTW prefer these hands too. Home, Run.
Love the watch, but it’s impossible to see those little date numbers in the real world on a 38mm watch unless you are 29 years old and in perfect light. It’s already next to impossible on the older 40mm version with aging eyes.
That would be 10 pm to 4 am. Changing at 10 am is fine since the date mechanism only engages every 24 hours. It also depends on the movement. The instructions for my Hamilton for instance says not to change the date between 8 pm and 2 am.
youu forgot to give specs on the balance, escapement and hair spring. I bet you Oris paid attention to that but did not give you the details. I am saying so because G.S did exactly the same thing with their manual wind caliber until worn and wound gave us the info, not sure how they go the info. It may be worth it for Oris and Co to disclose this to you, it can make all the difference
When I see the domed sapphire crystal on that watch it questions why omega are struggling to make their sapphire speedmaster dome like the hesalite one
Its only issue (to me) is the Big Crown moniker on the dial. To the Captain Obvious at Oris: yes, I can see it has a big crown. Otherwise, it's a nice watch with a brilliant movement.
It's a beautiful design and love the size dimensions. However: 1) The high price. To cut cost, I would rather have a top grade 3rd party movement and put a solid case back on it which would reduce the thickness of the watch. 2) Lume should be more uniformed. A bright light blue tint would align better with the blue dial. 3) The domed crystal distorts the second hand. I would rather see a flat crystal which would reduce the thickness of the watch as well. Overall, Oris need to work out the kinks before I would consider buying one.
@Teddy Baldassarre Review-you know you pointed out regarding Schwarz (the football player), this is not a dig at him but what happens if he decided to slim down or slims down after his career is over? I bet you his watches won't fit him any longer. I was the same, I had muscles but not lean muscle mass, I finally lost all that extra weight and guess what happened? 40mm do not even fit me any more: I am completely honest when I say that I am 6 foot 3 and almost 245 pounds. When I say 40mm does not fit me, I also mean that the lugs are too long at 51mm , they over hang! This is a dig: I imagine what will happen to Bruce Williams watches if he lost weight, he love to support larger sized watches but does not think out ward. I am peed off because I am finding it hard to wear watches I like, even a JLC mater control date slightly over hangs on me! BY the way, this will scare anyone and feel free to share-when we get older 60+, we automatically and severely lose weight in so many areas in our bodies, so all those expensive luxury watches, forget about them, A.P jumbos?No longer at a mature age. Check older folks and observe their bodies
Changing the hands and bezel was a mistake. This looks generic vs the coin edge and cathedral hands and the crescent date hand which had tons of character
Perfect watch size, mechanism perfect (who else gives a 10 year warranty?) I think this is the beginning of a new era for Oris
This thing is definitely on my shortlist. Stunning piece with the perfect dimensions for my wrists and a classy vintage look.
Personally I really like it. 38mm is such a nice size too. I’m so tired of big watches.
I love the pointer date series, but I miss the crescent / reverse arrow design for the date hand.. its just a bit more unique
Agreed, it also made for a cleaner dial as the point of the arrow intersects with the hour numbers.
On top of removing the coin edge and cathedral hands robbing it of any personality. Oris really needs to work on their line up structure and naming conventions it's quickly becoming and absolute mess...
"Allahu Akbar"!!!.
@@buffstaa agree
Changing the date hand was a big mistake by Oris. I hope they realise this themselves.
The design language goes back to the 1950-ies including hands, arrow date pointer, fonts and the relative small size. Even the calibre number logic is consistent to the pointer date calibre of the 450 series was 453. Modern and excellent reinterpretation!
Mit bestimmten Merkmalen geht ORIS sogar bis in die 40er-Jahre zurück! Immerhin, dieser Versuch ist gut gelungen.
Its perfect! Man I love what Oris is doing, they are just knocking it out of the park.
Now if they can shoehorn that movement into a 39.5 Aquis I might be tempted to get another one.
*Teddy* I wish you guys did custom straps, I hate having to order some endangered species from Vietnam and crossing my fingers that it makes it to my door.
I have the Sellita powered pointer date with the oxblood dial with reindeer and absolutely love it. This cal 403 version is just something else entirely. That dial with the pencil hands and small seconds looks exquisite. I think having a subtle visual difference between the Sellita and cal 40X models is a design decision by Oris to make it clear as to what timepiece houses which movement without a search for a small "5 Days" text in the dial. The Aquis 400 date has a fume style dial that fades darker towards the edge and a larger date window nearer the rehaut with this version swapping the hands from cathedral to arguably more modern pencil shows the difference and that makes sense to me. I still prefer the cathedral hands though.
I have experience of the Aquis cal 400 and have been very impressed with it. I'm not sure if I can cur.rently justify another pointer date yet but this is certainly on my radar. Definitely the finish and crystal are great but as you say the lume only gets a 'B' if it's the same as my Sellita model. I must confess I am tempted by this model.
In the flesh this looks awesome. It's no longer on my list though as it's now on my wrist. The overall execution is way better than the spec sheet. It will not replace my Oxblood dial Sellita based cathedral hand pointer date model with the coin edge bezel. It will complement it.
To me, the only thing I’d like to see a change is 100m wr since it already has the screw down crown, and I’d love to see a more sporty type of metal bracelet. Otherwise, another home run for Oris, one of my favorite brands!
Oris have been smart.
Tudor have the dive watch market sewn up in this price bracket.
Oris and Longines with the Spirit range are positioning themselves in that bracket, but not placing themselves in direct competition with the Black Bay range.
Needs the crescent 🌙 and coin edge and that 403. And if I am making demands.. please 100 meters. Who am I kidding? I bought this watch and love it as is.
The weird cathedral hands has always been a deal-breaker for me. I'm overjoyed to see this, ESPECIALLY in this perfect dial size.
This is a really beautiful watch.Looks like Oris really nailed it with this piece
Man, wish this exact model came with a bracelet! The hands and small seconds is still unique only to this unit.
I think my opinion here is going to be quite different, but i really like this new release by Oris. This looks very much similar to the military field watches of WW2 with the railway track small seconds, long slim hour and minute hands and the roman numerals for the hour markers. I like everything that this release brings, much more than what the previous gen pointer date brought. Perhaps it feels much less a Oris pointer date, but much more a vintage inspired field watch release but thats what i like more.
Great take. I really like the 400 series movement. There's been some criticism about the quirky time setting on them, but it isn't either difficult or time consuming to set them to the second. The accuracy is fantastic, and the ten year warranty doesn't hurt.
To anyone that thinks 38 mm is small; Please take my advise and let the watch space be a better one;
I am 6 foot 3, almost 245 pounds of muscle and I have gotten rid of all my large sized watches, 38 mm for a watch without a bezel is for a mature man who will keep a watch in his collection and not sell it on as he matures. I do agree that larger sized diameters are needed as a bezel is included, however, the lug to lug does suffer. If you are on the larger size, what happens when you lose weight?
I wear my Panerai on my biceps. 😊
So happy to have found a used AQUIS 400 for $1900. These are awesome watches but retail is just crazy. They are priced not far from Omega.
At retail Omega is priced almost 33% more. That is quite different IMO. If you look at AD discounts that gap widens more.
@@rydoggsc2 Which Omega do you buy new for that price? Everyone writes it all the time and that is nonsense
@@mijomendes1705 We are talking about retail prices. $5200 for omega and $3500 for Oris.
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Where's Omega for that money?
I like the pointer date, I have a big crown pro pilot which is decent.
With the beautiful rich blue dial, I would have used BGW9 light blue lume rather than green super luminova but the design is none the less.
this regular edition looks so much better than the limited edition. That deep blue dial is so much more preferable, and the price is right.
A modern take on the Big Crown Pointer Date. But I'd have preferred the Caliber 400 inside a classic Big Pointer Date with all the features that give that design its character: cathedral hands; coin edge bezel; crescent date pointer. I'm not really interested in where this watch sits in the market and although it extends the choice available in the range, I wouldn't really agree that some kind of more unique market positioning makes it a better watch.
I'm not clear on who would pick this watch to dive below 50 meters, or dive at all. Why would they not be choosing a dive watch?
Nobody. 50 m means a medium level of protection - they will survive active wash hands, a moderate rain, an inevitable shower or an occasional falling in a pool, no more.
All the dates above the 9 o'clock-to-3 o'clock line "sit atop" the railroad track, and all the dates below that line "hang below" the track -- except for the 24th, which breaks the pattern. Oris need to flip the 24 so it matches the other dates 9-23.
It seems to have a similar problem with Aquis. When you pull out the crown, the second hand moves and the same thing will happen when you push back the crown. Needs to be revised or corrected by Oris.
i remember seeing some articles saying that Oris are aware of the issue and they're looking into it
Amazing watch... I don't think it will replace the older pointer dates, because it costs double the money.
I hope you make a review of the new Cervo Volante 38mm which is another beautiful piece.
Love this watch. I wasn't a fan of the cathedral hands, but I did like the crescent pointer. Everything else is perfect. I had a short list of 2 watches the Longines Spirit in titanium and the RGM 151 in white. Now the Oris Big Crown is the front runner. Thanks Teddy.
Really love the design of this Oris. Sword hands for the win compared to the cathedral. A watch that I come back to regularly as a potential purchase in the future.
Yes it should have been 100m to be the perfect all around watch.
Does this also have the caliber 400 Jumping hands quirk where when setting time you need to go past the time you want and then go back to the correct time?
The video I was waiting for!!!!! Thank you Teddy!!!
It's a start. The size for me is perfect and I'm very interested in the movement. The colour does not wow me, I prefer the first one half moon-pointer and the cathedral hands. Would be interested in an upgraded bracelet, 10bar (which I know is asking too much) and get some gilt involved and I'm in! Do it, Oris!
If they rate 50m like they mean it, then it's about 10x as deep as I'll ever take a watch swimming.
@@DonaldPerley That's not how it works my man.
I've been in the water with my 16 year old Timex rated 50m well over a thousand times in watersport situations: diving board, surf, etc. Are you saying the Swiss can't match Timex quality control?
@@DonaldPerley Huh? I didn't say that, so no. Do a little research into WR ratings; you implied you thought the number was the actual depth rating but in practice it is not unless it's undergone ISO 6425 tests.
@@OwynDavies WR rating is the depth the watch is designed for. One big difference with an ISO rated diver is that EVERY watch is tested at some percentage over the depth rating. There are other requirements related to helping the watch keep you alive, but not WR as such. You need to be able to tell if the watch is running, usually done with a big blob of lume on the second hand. There's a minimum force the spring bars have to take before failing, and the same with the crown. The big issue with non "Diver" watches is that most mfr's will not test every watch (or any?) so YOUR watch meeting the rating is dependent on the manufacturer's quality control. If QC is bad enough, it doesn't matter if the rating is 10 meters or 300 meters, because it's really zero if, for example a gasket isn't in straight. As I said, that 50m Timex is rated 10x what I take it to, and has been 100% reliable for thousands of trips to the water.
Is it me or are watches now getting smaller again? 38mm but is more like a 37mm. Too small for me. I have just got a new MAEN Brooklyn with blue textured face. Lovely and I think good value. It's 38mm which is just about ok for me but the overall case size is not big enough I think.
love this, hope they do a bracelet for this and instant buy...
They took out the best parts! The coin bezel and the crescent pointer
If they have a power reserve indicator on those 5 days movements, I would want to buy one.
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Fabulous! Thank you for this. Would also love to hear your take on the Longines Spirit collection.
I would love to see a regular day date month (Like IWC Annual) complication on a slightly larger case with this movement. A lot to like here with their new movement, warranty and styling. Good job ORIS.
The watch looks great. However, it lost many things that I loved about the old one. For example, the bezel and the center seconds hand. In addition to that, the movement may be a better one but the price also went up significantly. You could and still get the old one for around 1000- 1200 Euros. I will eventually buy the old one with the stunning red dial.
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Aesthetically, this model lacks the 'retro' character present in the previous Big Crown Pointer line-up-which to me was the real appeal of these Oris watches. The 403 may 'tick all the boxes' as far as appealing to those who desire a more modern (contemporary) styling, but I find the appearance more pedestrian and considerably less compelling at nearly twice the price.
100% agreed. I hope they put the new caliber in the old design!
I like Oris designs. That Rectangular is on my mind.
It’s fantastic in hand. I have the Fratello version. Need to add this one!
I love the watch... and the jacket. Where did you get it from?
A 4hz movement with a 120 hour power reserve with a +-3-5 seconds/day is pretty bonkers, especially for 4,500 bucks.
Great watch and good value. I would change the strap to a matching blue one, but that is just my opinion
Why on earth is the dial of the second hand distorted? This is inconceivable! What were they thinking?
You need your eyes check. The distortion is due to light diffraction from the curvature of the sapphire crystal. 😂
I like this better than their in-house aquis
Very nice watch. I agree 50m does not sound a lot in today's standard but one will probably not take this to swimming
Teddy, do you know if they will also make this in 40mm or 41mm?
I preferred the red crescent, the coined bezel and the strange "4".
Tons of watchmakers tested and stated the 400 movements don’t last 5 days as manufacturer claimed them to be. Still someone keep pushing them on UA-cam!
Really like this...just wish for $3400 it came with a bracelet please Oris!
only problem i have with this watch is the big arrow sort of blocking the subdial. I think a reverse arrow would have been better!
The only thing I didn't like about the older model, was the coin edge bezel. So the fixed that problem with this model. But please Oris, put back those cathedral hands and the U shaped date hand. And I will be a buyer!!! 120 hour power reserve is great aswell.
Everything about this watch is improved but I do miss the old hands, I love the small seconds but I wish they would’ve kept the old style pointer date hand and the cathedral hands! Ugghhh I would’ve bought it in a heartbeat if they kept the hands!
This is beautiful. I can't help but agree that diver watches are quite saturated now. I can really compare this to the Longines Spirit.
It's interesting that people criticise the Longines Sector for its cut off 6, but one of the alternatives would of clearly been this (something ID guy mentioned in his video) a small second complication that kinda looks ridicolous, shrunk and squeezed in as it is.
What’s old is new again. If you look at the original 1938-1945 big crown versions they looked exactly like this (hands, sub seconds, dial layout and numerals). This is not a modern remake but a trip to the archives to reproduce something that once was the standard.
I would totally get this if it was 44mm lug to lug and GMT. Pointer date is awesome and I want one but I want a GMT like this much more. There is a purpose in my collecting that this watch is prefect for. I would love both complications but having both on the dial would be too busy. Another subdial would ruin the clean dial.
There is a Maen for $700
Thank you, Teddy. As always, a great model overview. I like this model, and you can hear it coming, but…. I very much like the absence of a date window that the pointer date system affords. However, with such a fine blue watch dial, I find the bright red pointer on the date hand rather unfortunate. I wonder what this model would look like with a simple white pointer that would pair well with the numbers on the dial, a pointer that could be filled with luminous material. I believe that the uniformity of color would be striking. Thank you for allowing me my opinion. All my best.
I would like it to be more in the yellows or golds. But I don't see red very well.
@Teddy Baldassarre reviews When set on a winder does this caliber 400 have a preference on CW, CCW or half&half?
Thanks
As always, great review and excellent piece, looks like a military field watch, but with the elegant characteristic touch of Oris
love this watch. Should have been 40mm dia though. Thx Teddy - keep 'em coming
0:44 is this your voice in a different mic, or someone else? either way great review on this beautiful watch.
Thats a really good looking watch. I wish Oris did more GMT watches rather than date pointers though.
Great movement upgrade but Oris gave up some of the design features that made the Pointer Date a special, unique watch, especially the crescent date pointer. Uniqueness is a characteristic I seek in watch purchases, so that is a disappointment for me.
You can have similar wrist experience with hamilton khaki field 38mm, for under 500 usd
Still unidirectional winding?
Just the review I was waiting for.
When Oris introduced the revamped pionterdate in 2018 I was blown away , especially with the blue dial on a steel bracelet. The design for me was nothing short of perfection. The issues I had with it though were the size ( it wore bigger on the wrist than 40mm would suggest) and the uninspiring base sellita movement. Once the calibre 400 was introduced I was waiting for it to get into the pointer date family.
And now it is, fixing the two main issues I had with the previous model.
BUT ALAS!!!! All the design elements that blew me away in the beginning are gone- no fluted bezel, no cathedral hands, no central second, no crescent pointer date.
Now it is a much better watch technically and wears much better on my wrist, but it does absolutely NOTHING to me, well except for frustration maybe. I won’t get this watch in this iteration.
Please oris listen to the fans- keep the dimensions, keep the movement but change the case and dial design back to the older model. You did it with the Aquis, why not here??
Exactly my thoughts, word for word. Gonna go to a local AD here in Germany to get my hands on a 36mm Sellita model.
@@Konsaliki that would be the best choice. They don’t have the blue dial version in 36 but the brown/black looks good also.
@@fadiinspace the brown/black dial is exactly the one I've been eyeballing for months. It's going to be my first (somewhat) luxury watch purchase, so I want this to be a keeper. And as nice as, for example, the minty green dial might be: I'd probably be over it in no time.
def more modern than classic and almost reminds me of the Hamilton Khaki that I can get for a lot cheaper. Couldn't be more disappointed. I also doubt they offer a coin bezel limited edition and opt for color variant releases like they did with the previous version.
It’s a handsome watch for sure and the movement is great. But the price. 3.4k is a retail for a Tudor BB58 on a leather strap and Tudor is a better all around watch. For that price it should be at least on a nicely finished bracelet though. Otherwise, well done Oris!
Great job! Going to check out Christopers Jewlery (Des Moines) this weekend and search for this watch! Will let you know if like or not once tried on wrist! Thanks to reviews loving them much!
This is really nice but the OG Pointer Date is far superior in my opinion. Missing the coin edge and cathedral hands, although that new Calibre 403 movement is superb. Also, for a £2500 price point they should of upped the 50 metre water resistance.
Anyone else MUCH prefer the old design? This one seems to have far less character and charm. It also looks more like a longines. Whereas the original pointer date was more unique
Totally agree. It’s lost it’s unique spirit somewhat here. Shame
The longines Spirit has more character than this watch.
@@joelmoore3804 yup
Bam! Great video and I am really liking the recent format. Is this the perfect sized watch? Seems like it. Nothing about this watch makes me dislike it! Crystal? A bit too much distortion at the bottom, the 50m water resistance is silly considering the screw down crown and yes, the 19mm lug width isn’t ideal but it makes the watch proportions sooo good. What a watch. BTW prefer these hands too. Home, Run.
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Love the watch, but it’s impossible to see those little date numbers in the real world on a 38mm watch unless you are 29 years old and in perfect light. It’s already next to impossible on the older 40mm version with aging eyes.
They need to bring a white dial version of this!!
Does the “don’t change the date between 10 and 4 o’clock” rule also apply for the pointer date?
That would be 10 pm to 4 am. Changing at 10 am is fine since the date mechanism only engages every 24 hours. It also depends on the movement. The instructions for my Hamilton for instance says not to change the date between 8 pm and 2 am.
@@ghostxfairy Yes, thanks for the clarification. Cheers.
Why did the crescent moon pointer have to go?
But, why the circle of the small seconds is crooked?
Tried to like it but they messed up on the design imho. Red arrow is a a huge miss compared to the crescent and the polished bezel is a step back
Wow nice but I would have kept it 36 mm for the ultimate classic look
Excelente video Teddy. 👏
is it just me or is the sub-dial not a circle? Or is the circle distorted by the dome shaped crystal?
Looks perfect, but prefer without the pointer date
youu forgot to give specs on the balance, escapement and hair spring. I bet you Oris paid attention to that but did not give you the details. I am saying so because G.S did exactly the same thing with their manual wind caliber until worn and wound gave us the info, not sure how they go the info. It may be worth it for Oris and Co to disclose this to you, it can make all the difference
When I see the domed sapphire crystal on that watch it questions why omega are struggling to make their sapphire speedmaster dome like the hesalite one
I actually like the hands. Not a fan of the cathedral hands on the previous model
It's nice but I'd prefer it as the classic design with centre seconds
Hmmmm…..been eyeing this…..50 meters Of water resist is a bummer….Still considering it….19 mm lug with also a bummer….still a beautiful watch….
Its only issue (to me) is the Big Crown moniker on the dial. To the Captain Obvious at Oris: yes, I can see it has a big crown. Otherwise, it's a nice watch with a brilliant movement.
It's a beautiful design and love the size dimensions. However: 1) The high price. To cut cost, I would rather have a top grade 3rd party movement and put a solid case back on it which would reduce the thickness of the watch. 2) Lume should be more uniformed. A bright light blue tint would align better with the blue dial. 3) The domed crystal distorts the second hand. I would rather see a flat crystal which would reduce the thickness of the watch as well. Overall, Oris need to work out the kinks before I would consider buying one.
A GMT with a pointer date would be cool
Do they do this in 40mm size
Looks like a the pp 6006g.
Ooooooohhhhh lookathaaaat!! Looks like the Longines spirit n I love it!!
Is the sun second dial distorted?
@Teddy Baldassarre Review-you know you pointed out regarding Schwarz (the football player), this is not a dig at him but what happens if he decided to slim down or slims down after his career is over? I bet you his watches won't fit him any longer. I was the same, I had muscles but not lean muscle mass, I finally lost all that extra weight and guess what happened? 40mm do not even fit me any more:
I am completely honest when I say that I am 6 foot 3 and almost 245 pounds. When I say 40mm does not fit me, I also mean that the lugs are too long at 51mm , they over hang! This is a dig: I imagine what will happen to Bruce Williams watches if he lost weight, he love to support larger sized watches but does not think out ward. I am peed off because I am finding it hard to wear watches I like, even a JLC mater control date slightly over hangs on me! BY the way, this will scare anyone and feel free to share-when we get older 60+, we automatically and severely lose weight in so many areas in our bodies, so all those expensive luxury watches, forget about them, A.P jumbos?No longer at a mature age. Check older folks and observe their bodies
Why did they get rid of the cathedral hands?
Let’s change a beloved design, plop in a new movement and double the price. Great idea!
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Changing the hands and bezel was a mistake. This looks generic vs the coin edge and cathedral hands and the crescent date hand which had tons of character
Really looking forward to them rolling this out across the rest of their BCPD watches - I am more of a fan of the cathedral hands.
Really nice watch, Ted, you are doing great eh