im gonna learn this and take all of my notes on my professors lectures in this, people will look at me like im crazy or like i could be an alien lol, oh man that'd be hilarious
I do believe the elian script is quite known by now. Just as People are like "oh the secret theban alphatet for magical stuff" it is such an easy Access Information nowadays..that you might always bump into someone who was as curious about other writing styles and codes, like you were.
Teacher could always fail you for passing papers of any type to anyone. Teacher I knew failed someone who was "winding" his watch -he had in fact removed the face and somehow rigged up a miniature scroll inside of it with the answers written in CODE.
+Sorrowdusk the teacher shouldn't have failed him-since he was clever enough to rig that up, she/he should have given him a scholarship or something for an engineering school(or whatever you call that)
@@ottah483 First of all, this comment is a whole three years old lmao, I was twelve when I said this. But I stand by my point. Yeah they cheated, but did you see the comment I replied to? They said they had a classmate who was caught cheating by removing the face of a watch and putting a miniature scroll inside that would reveal itself when you wound it - written IN CODE. All that just for one test, imagine what that ingenious talent could achieve with an engineering scholarship.
This is so awesome. Calligraphy is my hobby, and I just stumbled on this... it's fun to play around with! Can't wait to get my dip pens and ink and see what I can do. Thanks!
I knew it! It was Elian Script. I modified mine a little bit by adding 3 more horizontal lines on 2nd grid and 3 more vertical lines on the 3rd grid. Basically, it just gives a different combination of the letters and perhaps a uniform height.
If you look on ccelian.com you will see that the squiggles are done there as well in several places. It's hard to explain, and I guess it does contravene the basic guidelines, but it's basically taking a line that would be going straight back to the left, and making part of it go down. I think part of the reason that I prefer this is that making a line that goes to the left of the beginning of the letter feels like it's disrupting the flow of the writing. There might be other reasons, though.
Some of the symbols remind me of Korean sybols and the rule to read upper left to lower right is also how you read korean. Just an interesting factoid.
I wasn't expecting much since I've seen the tic-tac-toe grid used to make simple alphabets before, but this was truly amazing. So clever! I never thought of using them in this way. I am definitely going to learn this system.
This is a complicated variation on the much simpler "Pigpen Cipher", used in the early 18th century. Tombstones can be found which use the system as part of the engravings. One of the earliest stones in Trinity Church Cemetery in New York City, which opened in 1697, contains a cipher of this type which deciphers to "Remember death". Check wikipedia for more details: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigpen_cipher
So I just realized I've been watching your videos for four years now. Somehow it doesn't feel like it's been that long, but I do know I wouldn't be the same person if I hadn't watched your videos. Thanks for that :)
I spent a couple hours on it last night, and I pretty much have it down. I still have issues remembering where our alphabet is in the boxes, (and I still need the boxes), but I got the principle. I've even gotten pretty good at stacking the letters together.
I am a tattoo artist and saw this but didn't what it was until I searched more about it, this video is very helpful and easy to understand and I hope to be doing some tattoos with Elian Script soon ! Thank you for making this video !
I learnt it different but this is so cool! But i am amazed at how cool it looks when written in sentences. And do you write the sentences off head or do you look at the cheat sheet?
Yes, a teacher or proctor who sees you looking over notes during a closed-book test will 100% assume that you're not cheating as long as the notes are in an obvious cipher.
To pass notes in school we used to use the 3 grids, only we would leave the 1st grid plain, put one dot in the center for the 2nd grid and 3 dots in the center for the third. We also placed the letters in order left to right instead of bottom to top. It was crude, but hey we were in the 9th grade! I can say it never looked as artistic as yours does. It would help to draw a smiley face on the paper to show which way was up, but nowadays I guess it would have to be sideways :)
This is amazing! I never heard of this, and it looks AMAZING, specially in that calligraphic style. I created a geometric script as well, using dashes and dots as vowels and "boxes" as consonants. It's amazing how much it developed from just a bit of practice.
We also have something like this but the placement of the letters are different and we put dots in the middle to differentiate. For example, on the first grid we put one dot in the middle, on the second grid, 2 dots, etc.
Hey Peter, I really enjoy seeing your drawings and videos. I really enjoyed learning how to write Elian Script. Pretty cool. I do something similar to that in my own sketchbooks, but more hyper exaggerated. I look forward to seeing how you have progressed.
It looks like arabian because arab caligraphy uses geometric forms as templates. Great script this young devised man, I am happy to see that I'm not the only one who has created one :)
I switched around which way the letters go on the grid and I made the last grid so that I lengthen two lines. I underline what letters should be capital and put 1 dot over consonants and 2 dots over vowels and I make them go in a straight line so it takes up more space.
I used a cipher like this while I was a scout, the same grid system. First grid was simply boxes, second had one dot in every box, third had two dots each.
I've seen a much simpler version of this in an old copy of the Scouting Trail. It's one grid with two letters per box with a dot added for the second letter. For the last letters is an X grid, again with a dot for the second letter.
I write in a derivation of this where the letters STUV and WXYZ are divided into two groups both in "X" grids, and they are different in the fact that one tic tac toe board/X grid has inner dots, the other doesnt, but I like this way soo much more. More stylistic freedom.
E is the most commonly used letter, and it requires four lines to draw. Technically, W requires four lines and a dot so I guess it's longer, but still, compare with an infrequently used letter like "J" that requires only two lines (the minimum, as it's positioned on a corner of the grid).
Thank you for this video! I always wondered what that was on your drawings and it looked really cool ^^ I’ll be using this a lot in my dnd stuff with my group.
my mom taught me a different way. It was Elian but kinda different. there were 2 tic-tac-toe grids, and 2 'X' grids and the a-r were in a grid and the s-z were in the 'X' grid and the second grid letters had a dot in the middle of them. That's how my mom taught me, but this looks way cooler.
So I use pig pen, which is pretty close to this. Except you put dots inside the shape for the second grid and instead of a third grid it's and X . The problem for me to use this is that this new code arranges the letters almost backwards in the grids. So I can't remember what's what due to each in the first grid having 2 options in my brain. And here I thought I was good at my silly code.
They're very similar, but this is a spontaneous creation of a different person who wasn't familiar with Pig Pen. It's an accidental outgrowth of the (not consciously) same idea.
Wait so....there's a few different ways to write the symbols for the 2nd and 3rd grids.... that's almost like over complicating things when they could of just kept it at one way. I still find it really cool. Its just going to take longer to memorize each different way to write the symbol and become all super fluent.
The Latin alphabet which the Esperanto language uses has 28 characters. My solution so far has been to put a bar through the H to derive Ĥ, the least common letter in Esperanto (though used in the word "ĥoro", more commonly replaced with "koruso" nowadays).
I just learned about elian script an hour ago or so, but I believe the rationale is that he's writing the character for a, and then instead of lengthening the line straightly (for lack of a better word), he bends it around and lengthens it in a new direction. I could be wrong though; this is just the conclusion I drew from looking at how he was writing the letters, combined with what I've gleaned in my reading.
The letter T is in a square in the midle left of the grid. It's shaped like " ] " sort of. Regardless of how many stylistic changes he makes it's alaways a closed figure derived from a BOX with the left side removed. Even if he turns it into a backwards "C" as long as it's open on the LEFT, AND includes one extened line and one dot....it's T.
wait.. i have a question. so it seems like when it gets to second cycle letters there are other variations of the coded letter, right? like when you get to S why are there two of them and why are they on top of eachother? can't you just pick one? this is confusing and new to me
Thanks a lot for the lesson! It was very well done! In the link in your description it explains Elian Script with a metaphor where the sides of the boxes are referred to as ceilings, floors and walls. I found that much more difficult to understand. Will this ceiling, floor, wall metaphor help me in more complex Elian Script or is merely a metaphor to give a better understanding? Thanks again!
I have developed a script that shares some of the features that Elian has̬. I have us̬ed it in extensive note taking since 2004. I notice that ye keep the letters distinct from one another. Have ye experimented in merging/connecting them? Ye could generate unique symbols for words that way. And the letter variation would be beneficial to tell homonyms and homographs apart. It has been 9 years from my point of reference since ye made this video. Have ye made any changes to Elian ever since? How often do ye us̬e it and on what occas̬ions? I thank you.
Sorry, I just read about it. It was̬ create by C. C. Elian in the 1980's a d evolvef considerably. I did not realize that this was̬ not your own invention.
Many years ago I had seen something similar to this in a book and they claimed it was a secret witchcraft writing. I forgot all about it. BTW, can the s thru z dot be added to basic grid a and not make a difference?
jonas knochelmann The remaining upper right slot on the last grid can be zero, then create another grid from one to nine. I wouldn't know how to arrange punctuation inside a grid, so I would just stylize existing punctuation marks to match the shapes of elian
im gonna learn this and take all of my notes on my professors lectures in this, people will look at me like im crazy or like i could be an alien lol, oh man that'd be hilarious
lol i was thinking the same as you
I am going to use this in my class to confuse my students =)
VaLyuTV you could cheat on a test and no one would no
I do believe the elian script is quite known by now. Just as People are like "oh the secret theban alphatet for magical stuff" it is such an easy Access Information nowadays..that you might always bump into someone who was as curious about other writing styles and codes, like you were.
I know aurebesh and its fun to write stuff in it sometimes :D Imo this looks even more beautiful than aurebesh
[How to pass notes in class]
Exactly. Specially for Multiple Choice Exams
Teacher could always fail you for passing papers of any type to anyone. Teacher I knew failed someone who was "winding" his watch -he had in fact removed the face and somehow rigged up a miniature scroll inside of it with the answers written in CODE.
+Sorrowdusk the teacher shouldn't have failed him-since he was clever enough to rig that up, she/he should have given him a scholarship or something for an engineering school(or whatever you call that)
@@Sky-bu1jj bruh, the kid cheated. You’re saying the teacher should have sent him to an engineering school bc he cheated? Or r u making a joke?
@@ottah483 First of all, this comment is a whole three years old lmao, I was twelve when I said this. But I stand by my point. Yeah they cheated, but did you see the comment I replied to? They said they had a classmate who was caught cheating by removing the face of a watch and putting a miniature scroll inside that would reveal itself when you wound it - written IN CODE. All that just for one test, imagine what that ingenious talent could achieve with an engineering scholarship.
my name is elian
You have your own alphabet!
thanks you...lol
Elian Garza ... and this is my script
Elian Garza same here
That's a super cool name, I think.
I usually just write E's with a circle. Elian is pretty flexible like that.
I just realized your signature was in Elian
Life is Elian
This is so awesome. Calligraphy is my hobby, and I just stumbled on this... it's fun to play around with! Can't wait to get my dip pens and ink and see what I can do. Thanks!
pen64 with a pencil and fill pen you can do it easily too. :3
I guess 41,000 more people can read my diary now. :{
Hamza B 92,000*
*Cries mine too.... Imma burn my diary now
+Hamza B Condense the characters, like in Korean, where it would be blocks of syllables. e.g: "ㅂㅂㅏㄹㄱㅏ ㄴ" compared to "빨간"
😂
Hamza B 안녕~
I just use one and two dots in the second and third letter sets, I feel like trying to do those lines would drive me up a wall.
lol
For the second letter set I draw an extra line on the inside of it
I like that better. But how do you do E/ the middle letter
Emily Calhoun a dot in the center (1st) or 2 dots in the center (2nd)
SAME OMG
I knew it! It was Elian Script. I modified mine a little bit by adding 3 more horizontal lines on 2nd grid and 3 more vertical lines on the 3rd grid. Basically, it just gives a different combination of the letters and perhaps a uniform height.
Ilustrado I don't really underastand how you discribed your additions. Could you explain it again?
If you look on ccelian.com you will see that the squiggles are done there as well in several places. It's hard to explain, and I guess it does contravene the basic guidelines, but it's basically taking a line that would be going straight back to the left, and making part of it go down. I think part of the reason that I prefer this is that making a line that goes to the left of the beginning of the letter feels like it's disrupting the flow of the writing. There might be other reasons, though.
Some of the symbols remind me of Korean sybols and the rule to read upper left to lower right is also how you read korean.
Just an interesting factoid.
HOW HAVE I NEVER SEEN THIS VIDEO?????? I've watched like 95% of your videos and I've always wanted to learn this!!! JHASKDJFASLD
I’ll let you see it again. To redeem yourself as a TRUE FAN.
8 years later and you can really hear the difference in your voice, it's so much deeper now! You're always the best Peter!
wow! I didn't realize what channel this was until i read your comment!
I wasn't expecting much since I've seen the tic-tac-toe grid used to make simple alphabets before, but this was truly amazing. So clever! I never thought of using them in this way. I am definitely going to learn this system.
This is a complicated variation on the much simpler "Pigpen Cipher", used in the early 18th century. Tombstones can be found which use the system as part of the engravings. One of the earliest stones in Trinity Church Cemetery in New York City, which opened in 1697, contains a cipher of this type which deciphers to "Remember death". Check wikipedia for more details:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigpen_cipher
So I just realized I've been watching your videos for four years now. Somehow it doesn't feel like it's been that long, but I do know I wouldn't be the same person if I hadn't watched your videos. Thanks for that :)
does elian script have a specific pattern for numbers also?
You can use Roman Numerals, since they just use letters that are already present in the Elian alphabet.
That was helpful i alwasy wonderd about numbers
+Jack Smith I think it looks like *SGA* ( Standard Galactic Alphabet )
+Peter Draws add a dot in the middle of the Elian letter to show its a Roman numeral
+Joy Lawrence idk
Great! Now you just showed the NSA how to read and write this. :]
Pretty sure it wasnt news to them bud
Lol why are people complaining about this, it has literally taken me 4 minutes 30 seconds to learn
TheHammer Mjolnir Pretty sure this was in a coloring/activity book i had as a kid. Im scared for the world.
TheHammer Mjolnir For real.... Duh, people.
I spent a couple hours on it last night, and I pretty much have it down. I still have issues remembering where our alphabet is in the boxes, (and I still need the boxes), but I got the principle. I've even gotten pretty good at stacking the letters together.
Jack Marshall my friend ik right
I am a tattoo artist and saw this but didn't what it was until I searched more about it, this video is very helpful and easy to understand and I hope to be doing some tattoos with Elian Script soon ! Thank you for making this video !
easy to write. i just wish i could read it as easily haha
Love your flair and pushing the limits. Great explanations to show to students to think outside the box!
I learnt it different but this is so cool! But i am amazed at how cool it looks when written in sentences. And do you write the sentences off head or do you look at the cheat sheet?
great way for cheating on a test
Thank you for sharing your wisdom
*ahem* frequency analysis
I did not think of that
@@aloysiuskurnia7643
whos writing books
Yes, a teacher or proctor who sees you looking over notes during a closed-book test will 100% assume that you're not cheating as long as the notes are in an obvious cipher.
To pass notes in school we used to use the 3 grids, only we would leave the 1st grid plain, put one dot in the center for the 2nd grid and 3 dots in the center for the third. We also placed the letters in order left to right instead of bottom to top. It was crude, but hey we were in the 9th grade! I can say it never looked as artistic as yours does. It would help to draw a smiley face on the paper to show which way was up, but nowadays I guess it would have to be sideways :)
This is amazing! I never heard of this, and it looks AMAZING, specially in that calligraphic style.
I created a geometric script as well, using dashes and dots as vowels and "boxes" as consonants. It's amazing how much it developed from just a bit of practice.
my god even in his old videos his voice is so soothing.
This is funny because my name is Elian
Elian Enrich i commented this exact thing. elians unite!
Hell yahs. That'd be me too
I know this was 8 years ago, but this really ed helped! Thanks!
We also have something like this but the placement of the letters are different and we put dots in the middle to differentiate. For example, on the first grid we put one dot in the middle, on the second grid, 2 dots, etc.
This is brilliant!! Thanks for the inspiration. I'll use it to make my script for a conlang.
Hey Peter, I really enjoy seeing your drawings and videos. I really enjoyed learning how to write Elian Script. Pretty cool. I do something similar to that in my own sketchbooks, but more hyper exaggerated. I look forward to seeing how you have progressed.
It looks like arabian because arab caligraphy uses geometric forms as templates. Great script this young devised man, I am happy to see that I'm not the only one who has created one :)
I discovered that recently.
I'm stoked to start using this! Thanks for explaining, it'll add a new level to my art
I switched around which way the letters go on the grid and I made the last grid so that I lengthen two lines. I underline what letters should be capital and put 1 dot over consonants and 2 dots over vowels and I make them go in a straight line so it takes up more space.
Alternative : add one point on the right-hand side of the letter if it comes from the second grid, two dots if it comes froom the third.
I used a cipher like this while I was a scout, the same grid system.
First grid was simply boxes, second had one dot in every box, third had two dots each.
I've seen a much simpler version of this in an old copy of the Scouting Trail. It's one grid with two letters per box with a dot added for the second letter. For the last letters is an X grid, again with a dot for the second letter.
Stephen Turner Yep. Was in a coloring/activities book as a kid.
I write in a derivation of this where the letters STUV and WXYZ are divided into two groups both in "X" grids, and they are different in the fact that one tic tac toe board/X grid has inner dots, the other doesnt, but I like this way soo much more. More stylistic freedom.
Pigpen?
Peter, I used this today in class except I made it all curvy and I connected THE letters and it looked like elvish
Yup cursive elian looks real good, was actually thinkinh about getting an elian tattoo
E is the most commonly used letter, and it requires four lines to draw. Technically, W requires four lines and a dot so I guess it's longer, but still, compare with an infrequently used letter like "J" that requires only two lines (the minimum, as it's positioned on a corner of the grid).
Wow I'm surprised, didnt know Peter made a tutorial on this
Thanks Peter. Can't wait to apply this to some cosmic art. Thanks much.
Thank you for this video! I always wondered what that was on your drawings and it looked really cool ^^ I’ll be using this a lot in my dnd stuff with my group.
I have learned myself my own sort of 'elian' writing. maybe I'll give this a try to.
Nice dude
There are so many ways to note it down
And thats make it so nice
THANK YOUU!! it does look hard but we will learn
This is way easier than I thought it would be, thank you very much!
my mom taught me a different way. It was Elian but kinda different. there were 2 tic-tac-toe grids, and 2 'X' grids and the a-r were in a grid and the s-z were in the 'X' grid and the second grid letters had a dot in the middle of them. That's how my mom taught me, but this looks way cooler.
this is so simple, (and you explanated it amazingly) that my mind goes completely XD
So I use pig pen, which is pretty close to this. Except you put dots inside the shape for the second grid and instead of a third grid it's and X . The problem for me to use this is that this new code arranges the letters almost backwards in the grids. So I can't remember what's what due to each in the first grid having 2 options in my brain. And here I thought I was good at my silly code.
They're very similar, but this is a spontaneous creation of a different person who wasn't familiar with Pig Pen. It's an accidental outgrowth of the (not consciously) same idea.
Is it that your a good teacher or is it that simple to understand, great video, very understandable
Awesome tutorial, made it crystal clear!
I'm gonna watch this every day
Thanks peter I've been distracting myself with this the whole day now
Wait so....there's a few different ways to write the symbols for the 2nd and 3rd grids.... that's almost like over complicating things when they could of just kept it at one way. I still find it really cool. Its just going to take longer to memorize each different way to write the symbol and become all super fluent.
the T and the K do get a bit tricky in the end I must say. It is still build up on the rule with the walls but they do get the mind thinking XD
how do you read the "evolved" elian script though? i don't get it
Verry cool iv become pretty good at writing in elian script but what would be really helpful is a #'s version of elian script. Cool right?
The Latin alphabet which the Esperanto language uses has 28 characters. My solution so far has been to put a bar through the H to derive Ĥ, the least common letter in Esperanto (though used in the word "ĥoro", more commonly replaced with "koruso" nowadays).
Thank you so much! This is a beautiful alternative to Latin. Way more customizable!
how did the T turn into a squiggly line? i do not see how it fits with the rules you give, please explain
I just learned about elian script an hour ago or so, but I believe the rationale is that he's writing the character for a, and then instead of lengthening the line straightly (for lack of a better word), he bends it around and lengthens it in a new direction. I could be wrong though; this is just the conclusion I drew from looking at how he was writing the letters, combined with what I've gleaned in my reading.
why would he be writing the letter a though? since it's the t in "to"... i don't quite understand.
The letter T is in a square in the midle left of the grid. It's shaped like " ] " sort of. Regardless of how many stylistic changes he makes it's alaways a closed figure derived from a BOX with the left side removed. Even if he turns it into a backwards "C" as long as it's open on the LEFT, AND includes one extened line and one dot....it's T.
wait.. i have a question. so it seems like when it gets to second cycle letters there are other variations of the coded letter, right? like when you get to S why are there two of them and why are they on top of eachother? can't you just pick one? this is confusing and new to me
didnt they use this in those club penguin missions
cool! reminds me of the pigpen cipher. same concept but with a couple different details
Seems fun! Thanks for explaining!!
wow...thanks for sharing this! very interesting. ✌
This was also used in club penguin Nintendo game and at some point you had to use your penguin device to figure what the letters in the snow say
How do numbers work
where does Elian script come from? what is it and why?
Comes from Peter, a language, because.
Jack Mehoff No, it was made by C. C. Elian... why answer someone if you don't know?
***** Because.
Thx :)
Adapted from pigpen code.
Thanks a lot for the lesson! It was very well done! In the link in your description it explains Elian Script with a metaphor where the sides of the boxes are referred to as ceilings, floors and walls. I found that much more difficult to understand. Will this ceiling, floor, wall metaphor help me in more complex Elian Script or is merely a metaphor to give a better understanding? Thanks again!
That last sentence looked like a math equasion to me. School haunts me even during holidays! T_T
how would you find a pen pal to write in this script to eachother
The different script that you have been using recently, what type of script is it? Does it have a name like Elian or did you make it up yourself? 😃
Where do you read it first up or down left or right
Why dont you make the grids different from each other. 2nd one maybe on an X axis. And the third one on and italic angle.
How can i get a penpal? I think its a great idea, im sure it would be exhausting at first but thats all part of learning a language/script
Enlightenment is a wonderful thing.
Time to put the DC for translating the code in my campaigns way up higher now
Cool! This looks a little bit like a writing system I came up with
How to read enchantment table
Very cool. Would love this as a computer font!
I only see hangul (korean alphabet)
A - ㄱ
Means "K"
E - ㅁ
Means "M"
H - ㄷ
Means "D"
I - ㄴ
Means "N"
Is Elian script the same as Pig pen cipher ?
its beautifull. i think i want learn it
I have developed a script that shares some of the features that Elian has̬. I have us̬ed it in extensive note taking since 2004.
I notice that ye keep the letters distinct from one another. Have ye experimented in merging/connecting them?
Ye could generate unique symbols for words that way. And the letter variation would be beneficial to tell homonyms and homographs apart.
It has been 9 years from my point of reference since ye made this video. Have ye made any changes to Elian ever since? How often do ye us̬e it and on what occas̬ions?
I thank you.
Sorry, I just read about it. It was̬ create by C. C. Elian in the 1980's a d evolvef considerably. I did not realize that this was̬ not your own invention.
Many years ago I had seen something similar to this in a book and they claimed it was a secret witchcraft writing. I forgot all about it. BTW, can the s thru z dot be added to basic grid a and not make a difference?
Love this! Thank you for sharing! Got this link from Kara Benz (Boho Berry) She did a layout for her digital planner on your video! Very Cool!
Does it matter where you put the dots around the letter or does it have to be specific eg. On a certain line?
You put it on the end of any tip of a line
Hey (: can you do more tutorials ? I love your drawings
Thanks for teaching something new 😁
You make very good tutorial, friend. Thank you, I learn greatly from video.
Very interesting but very similar to Masonic code or "pigpen" cipher which is actually much easier to remember.
How do you end a sentence? Do you use a period, or would that be too confusing with all of the other dots for the letters?
I just put a period at the end of the sentence, just far enough away from any letters that it doesn't get confusing.
+Ghastly Placidus Yes, but e can be written as a circle.. :P I circle my punctuation so it's obvious what it is instead of a dot from another letter
Is there any way to write numbers or punctuation's?
jonas knochelmann The remaining upper right slot on the last grid can be zero, then create another grid from one to nine. I wouldn't know how to arrange punctuation inside a grid, so I would just stylize existing punctuation marks to match the shapes of elian
i lov the way u wright
This is accually really cool... I might use this.
I have so much time on my hands I think that I will learn how to write in Elian.
Thanks for sharing this is really cool I add my name in my drawings like this now