I was slightly luckier because I was binging seasons 1-5 and I think there was like 4 months until the season 6 premiere. Even that was agonizing. Then of course there was that lovely 2-year wait between seasons 7 and 8. That was fun. 😛
About the Jon ending. The constant theme of GoT is that every season people crave that elusive comeuppance, every season the carrot gets dangled and then right at the last moment it all gets taken away brutally. The vile characters remain on top and you're left bitterly disappointed by a subversive ending. GoT season enders are like crack, you keep coming back for more emotional abuse. Then comes Tyrion's "ray of hope ending" last season and you think maybe this is the big turnaround. But then they drop this massive shoe right in the middle of the series. Jon's betrayal and death (for slightly different reasons) is where GRRM left off the Night's Watch saga in his last book. When this episode aired it made an ungodly amount of noise. This was one of those viral TV moments of the 2010s. Everyone and their mother was talking about it. President Obama asked director David Nutter if Jon is really dead, that's how much of a pop culture phenomenon Jon Snow had become. This was definitely a downer ending for the ages but it also got all the attention and some more. So Season 5 leaves us with all the main characters hitting rock bottom. But at some point there has to be some payoff, right? What if it's in the next one? Well it's GoT, they're probably gonna hit you over the head with more frustration and sadness. But you'll have to find out...
Think its because villains don't care about things like honor and doing the right thing, they only care about power and what moves keep them there, so it makes sense that in the initial the good would die first.
Jon's death is still the hardest to watch moment of the entire series for me, even more so than the Red Wedding and I've seen the show 4 times now. top 10 episode for sure!
Absolutely no need to apologize for these honest moments you have of strong emotions watching this show. In part, we are all grateful as you are expressing emotions we all felt watching these same episodes. Thus, you provide us with a source of catharsis. Second, I - and I am probably not alone, feel bad in encouraging you to watch these, knowing that they may cause you such reactions, but without spoiling episodes for you, there is no way to really warn you.
You have no idea how many hearts Snow's death broke. It's was so intense. Almost a traumatic experience for us fans. Keep watching. This is the time when the show is at its peak
I forgot how many events were packed into this episode. It was a big one!! We had to wait well over a year for the next season when all this happened!, it was brutal!
The ring that dany removed was the last memory of her mother. The ring was dany's mothers ring who was queen rhaella. Extra info for u. She left to so that who ever comes to search her knows that she was there
She might’ve also dropped it also so that the Dothraki wouldn’t take it. Since they like taking things that aren’t theirs. But yep Jorah Mormont finding it was key to finding her.
Apparently Theon and Sansa landed in a large snow bank... apparently the conditions that stalled Stannis' army worked in their favor. Jon Snow killed by his own brothers of the Nights Watch was tragic, if inevitable... and now his watch is ended.
Exactly Theon and Sansa grew up in Winterfell and know where the snow drifts the deepest and although still a risk..................... A risk worth taking
I feel for you. ;) When I saw you cry already when Sam was saying to Jon he needed to leave I was like oh boy, I cannot imagine when she's gonna do with the rest of the epsiode. Our beautiful Indian Calypso is gonna feel this one. lol I call it the L Episode. Everybody took an L. Arya became blind, Stannis got destroyed, Sansa tried to use her candle but Brienne was not there, Jamie lost his daughter, Dany got captured by the Dotraki, Cersei got her walk of shame and Jon got murdered.
It's like everyone forgot that Ollie literally watched Tormund mercilessly slaughter his entire village and then become BFFs with Jon. I'm not saying that Jon shouldn't have saved the wildlings and let them south, but Ollie didn't betray him - he betrayed Ollie.
@@janeathome6643 Jon allied himself with the man who murdered Ollie's family. I get why he did it, but try to see Ollie's perspective for even one second.
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I was another of the many that felt like giving up on this show at this point but I wanted so bad to see the people who had done such terrible wrongs get what they deserved that I had to keep watching and I'm so glad I did. Season 6 & 7 are top tier in my opinion
The Lady Melisandre left with the SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED! She was like, "Nah fam, I ain't about to let this crusty-ass Baratheon execute me." 😂😂😂 I actually really love The Red Woman as a character and she's really beautiful.
From what Ive been told about Winterfell, the snow around the walls was much higher than it seems visually from the show, so jumping off the wall and living isnt a stretch.
snow fact: when it snows, the wind might push and accumulate the snow against a wall, so it wouldn't be just the 10cm (4inch) you find on a path. Something Theon and Sansa probably know.
Ahh this episode always gets me. I was sooo mad when they killed John. I was done with the show. I just couldn’t watch anymore. And then the next season came out and I was over it 😂
Out of all our main characters it seems like Tyrion is the only one who came out relatively unscathed from this tumultuous season. He's the only one who's in a better position than he was at the start.
i like how drogo just made himself a nest in the dathraki sea like he was born in the dathraki sea and he returned to it when he was old enough like drogs go back to where they born
These last few episodes had a lot of dark moments but that Arya killing Meryn Trant scene was particularly dark. It's probably the most graphic way someone's been murdered in the show. For some reason it feels way more repulsive than swords going through people's heads. Probably because of the ambience and the tone of that scene, feels horrifying. Cersei's atonement too. It's a tough watch. There's a passage in the book where Uncle Kevan is wondering how Tywin had done the same thing to his father's 2nd wife, and what the Golden Lion would've felt knowing his daughter was being herded through the streets like a common prostitute. House Lannister took a fall from grace this season, but then again who didn't?
@@jasongrace4005 Right on! My bad. mistress not wife. I forgot Tytos caught a heart attack while climing stairs before things could've gone any further.
The finale itself is great with lots of intense moments, hooks, cliffhangers, crazy ups and downs that keep you on the edge and leaves you in an ethical bind. Case in point is the events in KL. If you're wondering, Cersei isn't actually free. She's still imprisoned in the Red Keep until her trial and Tommen is under the Sparrow's thumb. It's in the Faith's interest to keep a weak king in power who they can control. It's not a ploy to "make you feel bad for Cersei". *That it doesn't feel right to enjoy the misery of a person even as despicable as Cersei due to the perverse nature of her punishment is a testament to the ethical dilemma the series always puts you in* . Besides Dorne I like most of it. The season's great for Hardhome alone. The North feels dark and depressing with the bleak, snowed out monochrome scenery. The filming looks straight out of an enchanting nightmare winter with the damsel in the tower and all. A spirit breaking aura hangs over the Bolton North. I never get hung up on the unresolved arcs, you just have to soak in the moment and let it play out. This is the series at its bleakest. It can be emotionally exhausting, but that's also the fun part.
Ngl the Jon death hit me hard, but that was probably everyone who didn't know it was coming. I find the second half of the season really draining on the mind because of how fatalistic and despondent it is. Not everyone can appreciate this style of story progression most of us need a bone thrown at us, some type of silver lining, or we get exasperated. But personally I love this never ending loop of "get ready for your soul to be destroyed". The dawn doesn't mean much without the night. All the arcs are left brazenly open ended without making any concessions. They don't give you any ground at all, you have no choice but to wait and see. Imagine if you had to wait a whole year for answers! But that's also what was the strange appeal of this fascinating show.
They built up to Theon finally snapping it instead of doing it randomly put of nowhere. First the wedding. Then the info about bran and rickon. A turning point was coming. And it finally did at the right moment.
thank you for making it through this episode... love sharing all your reactions and yes, even the walk was sad .. but OMG killing Jon is the worst.. some people actually stopped watching because of his death.. you will see it through to the end.. and we will be here with you and at least you do not have to wait a year .. you can start season 6 whenever you are ready.. it is one of the best
You're not the only one who felt sorry for Cersei at that moment. I agree with you, no one deserves that treatment. The similarities between Robb's death and Jon's death are uncanny. Robb was ultimately stabbed in the heart by someone he trusted (Roose Bolton) and Jon was stabbed in the heart by someone he trusted (Olly). Season 5 is so difficult to watch. Just when you think you've risen above the tragedy of season 3, season 5 tears you back down.
16:08 the idea of the masks is that you need to let go of your past and essentially become no one to use them without consequence This is essentially someone with no identity and can blend in without your past habits limiting you. When he said “the masks of the dead are as good as poison”, of which the masks of the people now being dead no longer have anything tying them to the world, it meant because Arya is still holding on to herself, she suffered a backlash of using it as seen with the blindness. As to be “no one” is essentially to be dead to the world without any physical or emotional attachments which Arya had. Hope this explanation helps.
I knew this would be so heartbreaking for you. Just remember GOT always moves on in interesting & fascinating ways. Season 6 is still good. It's hard losing Jon Snow.
The emotions are why we watch. And I don't just mean your crying. Any emotion is fun. As bad as things get, please remember the show always rewards you for sticking with it after something really bad happens. In many other ways than you might expect. v
I was so pissed that until the very end, ser Alliser and co. did not get it through their thick heads what Jon was trying to tell them. He did NOT retrieve the wildings because of having a “good heart” and feeling bad for the wildlings (though he probably did feel, too). He loved a wildling, but he was never a “wildling lover” over a brother of the night’s watch. He killed as many wildlings as anyone in the battle of Castle Black. He told them everything he knew to create a battle strategy that they could defeat the wildlings with, and at the very latest after the battle, they could see he was truthful about everything. He set out alone to kill Mance Rayder. But literally, if the wildlings stay on the other side of the wall, they will have to fight every single one of them in the form of undying ice zombies. Not only are their chances better if the wildlings fight alongside them instead: Even IF the wildlings proved traitorous, I should think they would rather take their odds with fighting them as humans. I understand there’s a lot of built up anger and nasty history between them: but that’s just your feelings speaking, not wisdom of what’s the best course of action. It is YOU, ser Alliser, who chose your personal feelings over what’s best for the Night’s Watch, NOT Jon.
They did tell us at the time of season 5 there would be no Bran scenes this season. Mainly because of the logistics of filming in so many different places. They added a location in Spain for Dorne.
Watching the finale is like having a devil and an angel on my shoulders lol. One side with the halo and wings saying there's enough messed up shit in the real world to torture myself with this lol😇. The other side with the tail and pitchwork saying keep going, what's there to lose😈? I felt the same way as you did. Too many explosive twists and turns. This episode was a roller coster of an emotional mindfuck from start to finish and leaves all the stories up in the air at their most vulnerable points! If nothing else it certainly makes you think where the hell we can go from here. But then again I was never so attached to stannis or jon to be like the ones who threatened to rage quit. I mean if the level of fan following and cultural influence GoT had in those years was any indication I doubt anybody actually quit tho.
I love your reactions. The breakdown in parallels between Jon and Robb was really insightful and a new perspective I haven't heard before. Season 5 is a soul crusher. I can't wait for your adventure through Season 6 - it's WILD.
There are so many negatives right now....but....many characters are on the upswing....Dany,Tyrion,Sansa,Theon,Cersi,Brien,Bron....more...hold on ....3 more series to go and twists and turns that are unbelieveable
Just to give you some context on the show as a whole, this is where the books ended. Book readers are still waiting for GRRM to finish writing the next book so they can find out what happens after John is killed. So the rest of the show was produced with the showrunners relying on a pretty vague outline from Martin on what should happen over the next few books and so they had the responsibility of writing the rest of the story. Just something to keep in mind moving forward.
I like Jon's words: "For 8 thousand years Night's Watch swore to protect the realm of men and for 8 thousand years they broke that vow". He died for a good cause, defending his vows as he understood them. I just wish he could save more wildlings, there's like 200k joined the army of the dead. ☹
The majority of viewers thought season four was the best. Personally, I thought season six was the best, so there is quite a lot to look forward to. I thought you handled John’s death extremely well for your tender heart❤️
A Dance with Dragons - Jon XIII ( For the Watch ) ...............................When Wick Whittlestick slashed at his throat, the word turned into a grunt. Jon twisted from the knife, just enough so it barely grazed his skin. He cut me. When he put his hand to the side of his neck, blood welled between his fingers. "Why?" "For the Watch." Wick slashed at him again. This time Jon caught his wrist and bent his arm back until he dropped the dagger. The gangling steward backed away, his hands upraised as if to say, Not me, it was not me. Men were screaming. Jon reached for Longclaw, but his fingers had grown stiff and clumsy. Somehow he could not seem to get the sword free of its scabbard. Then Bowen Marsh stood there before him, tears running down his cheeks. "For the Watch." He punched Jon in the belly. When he pulled his hand away, the dagger stayed where he had buried it. Jon fell to his knees. He found the dagger's hilt and wrenched it free. In the cold night air the wound was smoking. "Ghost," he whispered. Pain washed over him. Stick them with the pointy end. When the third dagger took him between the shoulder blades, he gave a grunt and fell face-first into the snow. He never felt the fourth knife. Only the cold …
12:30 to 12:45........ For Sansa and Theon, look closely you will see; also people have survived falls and jumps from much higher heights ( plenty on YT ); I personally saw two men on different occasions survive a fall from : A roof over 80 feet high; and a repairman who got thrown from his bucket truck ~ 40 feet high ( he lost his job though for safety violation, OSHA wasn't happy, nor the company ). For Arya scene.... you totally remind me of my wife when we go to hockey games.... so violent...😂😂
This episode pulled us in both directions in almost every key scene... We were cheering for Arya to kill Meryn Trant, but were horrified by the stone cold blooded way she did it. And then to be stunned by her punishment for violating the rules. We loved the heartfelt emotions in the Jaime-Myrcella scene, and immediately heartbroken by the treachery of her death. We were shocked and horrified by the murder of Jon by Thorne's group, but can also understand the motivations that drove them (the thousands of years of tradition and history they felt they were defending) and Olly (having seen the wildlings slaughter his parents and village). The sense of justice seeing Cersei punished and humiliated for her crimes and sins, but sympathetic towards her because of how much physical suffering she had to endure. It's episodes like this that drive home just how good and trope-breaking this show really was. Then, having to wait 9 months for the next season to see how things play out after all these stunning events. At least you get to see the fallout from this season without having to wait those gut-wrenching months!
This episode truly hurt me... after episode 9 I felt '' SAFE'' that the horrible deaths were behind me... And I expected episode 10 to be like '' The Cool Down '' episode, but then this bomb dropped on my head. It hurt even more bcuz Jon Snow was my fave character from day one. Gosh... This show truly rips me apart sometime. Yet I come back for more.
This was the mother of all cliffhangers. The most blueballing of them all! When I say everybody wanted to know wtf happened with that ending, I mean everybody! This is when the "is Jon Snow dead" thing became a gif. It's the moment when the Jon Snow character entered popculture lexicon as that Luke Skywalker type iconic figure! I was never a member of the Stannis fan club, so I was nowhere near as down on the ending as some make it out to be. This season as a whole has some of my absolute favorite moments and I believe some of it is deliberately misunderstood by those who always had an an axe to grind over every little thing. A lot of it is latent backlash that boiled over to the surface after eight I guess. After eight everything they ever did has to be continuously scrutinized and re-critiqued. But when these seasons were airing in real time, the show had an incredible scale of interest. It was the 'it' show, the topic of water cooler talk. Countless people would not have been so emotionally invested in it for so long otherwise. It was truly a generational series.
You're moving fast. Its hard not to continue to the next episode. I remember having to wait from Sunday to Sunday! Good review. Season 6 is my favorite season. Never forget Theon is a good man.
28:32 Cersei has done worse things to the people she hates especially in the books, maybe in a psychological way but still she has done cruel things. In the show she was the one who gave power to The High Sparrow and also armed the faith to make her enemies suffer but it back fired.
You are not alone. I too felt some compassion for Cersei. Whether you believe she deserved the punishment or not, the fact that the punishment came at the hands of religious zealots who are just as malicious, power-hungry, and ruthless as Cersei. They are the wrong people to be standing in judgement of anyone, much less ruling over the lives of others, and claiming that they are doing God's work... unless their God is evil. Your tears for Cersei only show that you are a better person than she.
@@pjfsr7024 Perhaps or perhaps not. True that she gave them power, but it doesn't justify what they did, anymore than the killings of Ned and Robb... who were largely responsible for bringing about their own end. And Cersei's actions in trying to use them to trap her enemies doesn't really change who they are, and the monstrous hypocrisy of what they do.
5 builds & builds to something foreboding, you can almost feel the approaching calamity & then it all comes crashing down into a crescendo. Might feel disappointing but there's a beauty to this record 12 Emmy season. Even the cinematography & score is a reminder of a sinister dreary winter gloom & doom. The shots capture the hopelessness really well. But not all of us can enjoy a tense mournful buildup, they want it all instantly. I find hilarious the outrage over a gunslinging brooding cigarette in mouth cowboy western John Wayne antihero character that naturally attracts reactionary personality types on the basis of 'acceptable' evolutionary psychology. Book Stannis while a bit different, was also rigid & inflexible. Stannis' quest for the throne was never about power or politics but what he saw as an obligation for the greater good. Stannis was willing to go any length for that greater good & eventually he was going to fall on the sword of his obligation. Lots of book foreshadowing of his downfall. GRRM has confirmed Shireen's end was his idea & Stannis' end makes the most sense for where the Winterfell story is headed, no matter how much Stannis fanboys delude themselves into thinking he'll sit on the throne. People in general get frustrated when you take away the choice of rooting for clearly defined linear sides & instead have a cycle of morally ambiguous lesser evils (Stannis or Ramsay). For me 5 has its obvious weak points but the positives (Hardhome, King's Landing) far outweigh the negatives (Dorne). Of course, the season was rated way more highly by critics than the fandom & GoT had become the most watched drama series by this point, so the overtly negative perception didn't have any impact on the general viewers. It was more a reflection of the fandom, with all their opinions becoming some incredibly bad-faith variation of "they ruined this or that" & you get browbeaten if you point out anything positive about D&D. Some criticisms are justified, but most are laughably minor inconsistencies, straight up inventing faults retroactively, complaining about why they condensed 300 page subplots, insane nitpicking over subverted expectations, & just purists overcompensating with the hive mind circle jerk at GRRM's alter to cover for their lack of analytical ability to comprehend the purpose of the storytelling. The intent of every character (like Brienne) somehow become a 4d plot to demean Stannis lol. But yeah if you were watching without a preconceived notion from the fandom negativity, you usually tend to have a different perception.The key to understanding 5 is that it's a melancholic & long setup for "the wars to come". They build everything up just to knock it all down. It's fickle, it's the "wicked game". Winterfell with its grim spectral beauty represents that perfectly. Some say it relies on shocks, but the shocks are in the books too & the buildup is what makes the shocks hit. You have to take it for what it is,a beautifully poignant pitch-black Shakesperean tragedy. Also a season with 24 nominations & 12 Emmys which is still a record I believe. Breaking Bad won 16 total in context. No one can change that retroactively. (but I guess they did make the eternal sin of deviating from Ramsay's marriage to Jeyne Poole LOL).
Tough episode for sure. Sansa and Theon were able to jump because the snow piles up deep enough to break their fall on that side of the castle. Not saying anything else it would ruin season 6.
I can't lie. This episode nearly wrecked me. I weeped on episode 9 and assumed I was safe. But this one shook me to my core. Jon and Arya are my favorite two characters, followed by Tyrion. So when I watched this episode, I was contemplating ending my watch...no pun intended. I will say this. There is more of the show to look forward to, so don't throw in the towel just yet. My favorite seasons are, in order, 6, 5, 7, 4, and 1. Even though Ned died in the first season, who he was as a man can be felt throughout the entirety of the show. It reflects in his children and the respect that even his enemies admired...even if begrudgingly. Jon is very much like Ned to his core, and he learned a few newer things as he journeyed through his life. My heart broke when they killed him. I would never condone harming or killing children, but in spite of what poor Shereen went through, I hated Olly and wanted him killed. I understood his hateful feelings about the Wildlings, but to commit murder on someone that went out of their way to help you and train you... it was just too much. The anger in me for the betrayal....after the ugly crying tears stopped, the "Woman of Winter" in me wanted vengeance on Olly and the rest. This episode just kept coming with the jaw dropping moments, but all I could think about was my beloved Jon Snow. He deserved so much better. 2 of my favorite reactor channels: Nikki and Steve and American Mum...their reactions were accurately how I felt...devastated, numb, angry and done. Your reaction is definitely on point to how I felt as well. I appreciate you sharing your emotional reaction to my beloved character. Love and blessings to you, my dear heart.
Thank the Gods you won’t have to wait over a year for your answers. Season Five was the downer of downers with only Hardhome has uplifting even if scary as hell. Keep on keeping on.
*So lucky of you that you don't have to wait for the next season after this episode.*
Imagine how we felt for the next one year after this episode. 😭😭
You're lucky you watched the show. Imagine reading this in a book and having to wait until...
@@jplace524 ...and our watch has not yet ended.
Lol
I was slightly luckier because I was binging seasons 1-5 and I think there was like 4 months until the season 6 premiere. Even that was agonizing. Then of course there was that lovely 2-year wait between seasons 7 and 8. That was fun. 😛
Why would that make her lucky?
After the first episode she said the violence and gore is a bit too much, this episode she's screaming 'kill him! kill him' lol
"I wanted to see that!"
I know, I was cracking up watching her! This show warps all of us, lol!
@@sld1776 right? 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
The true purpose of Game Of Thrones is revealed: turning Sweet Summer Children into Women Of Winter...
The evolution for every man or woman that watches this show....it's like a desensitizing pill lol
About the Jon ending. The constant theme of GoT is that every season people crave that elusive comeuppance, every season the carrot gets dangled and then right at the last moment it all gets taken away brutally. The vile characters remain on top and you're left bitterly disappointed by a subversive ending. GoT season enders are like crack, you keep coming back for more emotional abuse. Then comes Tyrion's "ray of hope ending" last season and you think maybe this is the big turnaround. But then they drop this massive shoe right in the middle of the series. Jon's betrayal and death (for slightly different reasons) is where GRRM left off the Night's Watch saga in his last book. When this episode aired it made an ungodly amount of noise. This was one of those viral TV moments of the 2010s. Everyone and their mother was talking about it. President Obama asked director David Nutter if Jon is really dead, that's how much of a pop culture phenomenon Jon Snow had become. This was definitely a downer ending for the ages but it also got all the attention and some more. So Season 5 leaves us with all the main characters hitting rock bottom. But at some point there has to be some payoff, right? What if it's in the next one? Well it's GoT, they're probably gonna hit you over the head with more frustration and sadness. But you'll have to find out...
Think its because villains don't care about things like honor and doing the right thing, they only care about power and what moves keep them there, so it makes sense that in the initial the good would die first.
Indian Calypso tearing for Cersei shows how of a sweet person she is. Makes her reaction videos the most compelling.
Yeah, It's also Lena's acting she did a fantastic job you almost feel sorry for her
I also felt sorry for Cersei. It's just really humiliating and no one should go through it.
@@growupanushka Rapists? Murderers? Child killers? Child rapists? Tyrants?
@@growupanushka na cersi sucks , she deserves it
Aish: "You put that bell away, I am the Master of the Bell!"
Lmao.
Jon's death is still the hardest to watch moment of the entire series for me, even more so than the Red Wedding and I've seen the show 4 times now.
top 10 episode for sure!
Quite under rated ep
Absolutely no need to apologize for these honest moments you have of strong emotions watching this show. In part, we are all grateful as you are expressing emotions we all felt watching these same episodes. Thus, you provide us with a source of catharsis. Second, I - and I am probably not alone, feel bad in encouraging you to watch these, knowing that they may cause you such reactions, but without spoiling episodes for you, there is no way to really warn you.
So much this. ❤️❤️❤️💔💔💔
You have no idea how many hearts Snow's death broke. It's was so intense. Almost a traumatic experience for us fans. Keep watching. This is the time when the show is at its peak
Also the time where the book and the tv series separate.
S3-4 was peak imo
@@ModuliOfRiemannSurfaces for me it was 5-6
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08season 5 was okay, season 6 is better but s3-s4 were the peak
LOL! She goes from "There will be too much violence" before the first episode to "I WANTED TO SEE THAT!" when Stannis is beheaded!
Never looked like a beheading
@@English_MoFo what exactly did the off camera death look like to you? 🤔
@@AL-fl4jk like the scar Brandon gave Littlefinger. "From navel to collarbone"
@@English_MoFo lol ok 🙄
@@AL-fl4jk it looks like she sliced stannis head half from a 45-degree angle
I forgot how many events were packed into this episode. It was a big one!! We had to wait well over a year for the next season when all this happened!, it was brutal!
The ring that dany removed was the last memory of her mother. The ring was dany's mothers ring who was queen rhaella. Extra info for u. She left to so that who ever comes to search her knows that she was there
Rhaella 🥺
She might’ve also dropped it also so that the Dothraki wouldn’t take it. Since they like taking things that aren’t theirs.
But yep Jorah Mormont finding it was key to finding her.
Apparently Theon and Sansa landed in a large snow bank... apparently the conditions that stalled Stannis' army worked in their favor.
Jon Snow killed by his own brothers of the Nights Watch was tragic, if inevitable... and now his watch is ended.
Exactly Theon and Sansa grew up in Winterfell and know where the snow drifts the deepest and although still a risk..................... A risk worth taking
They'll be stuck in it until Spring comes. At lesat the bodies will be preserved ;)
I feel for you. ;) When I saw you cry already when Sam was saying to Jon he needed to leave I was like oh boy, I cannot imagine when she's gonna do with the rest of the epsiode. Our beautiful Indian Calypso is gonna feel this one. lol
I call it the L Episode. Everybody took an L. Arya became blind, Stannis got destroyed, Sansa tried to use her candle but Brienne was not there, Jamie lost his daughter, Dany got captured by the Dotraki, Cersei got her walk of shame and Jon got murdered.
To say the Internet when into meltdown after that finale would be something of an understatement. Olly became the most hated kid in history.
It's like everyone forgot that Ollie literally watched Tormund mercilessly slaughter his entire village and then become BFFs with Jon. I'm not saying that Jon shouldn't have saved the wildlings and let them south, but Ollie didn't betray him - he betrayed Ollie.
I screamed "FUCK YOU OLY!" until my throat was sore after this episode.
@@jawbone78 Ollie is a redshirt. Everyone knows redshirts don't have feelings and are just supposed to unquestioningly serve the protagonists.
@@jawbone78 Jon didn't kill his family, he didn't "owe" Ollie anything, and even if Ollie feels betrayed, how does that add up to murder?
@@janeathome6643 Jon allied himself with the man who murdered Ollie's family. I get why he did it, but try to see Ollie's perspective for even one second.
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I WILL still remove blatant spoilers*
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lol don't be tired of it. Swerve it. Some of these people can't help themselves. They just want to be important. You're doing an amazing job.
Most read every book and just can't wait to tell anyone. It's a lame backdoor compliment, "well in the books"
Mum knows best 💚
And there goes Stannis. The one true king 🥺🫶🏽🦌👑⛈
I understand from where ollie was coming from but this was biggest betrayal on the show
I was another of the many that felt like giving up on this show at this point but I wanted so bad to see the people who had done such terrible wrongs get what they deserved that I had to keep watching and I'm so glad I did. Season 6 & 7 are top tier in my opinion
The Lady Melisandre left with the SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED! She was like, "Nah fam, I ain't about to let this crusty-ass Baratheon execute me." 😂😂😂
I actually really love The Red Woman as a character and she's really beautiful.
From what Ive been told about Winterfell, the snow around the walls was much higher than it seems visually from the show, so jumping off the wall and living isnt a stretch.
Been told from what source? The books? If so, makes sense. Otherwise the show should have shown it being deep.
@@SalvableRuin Roose himself talks about deep snow while making plans to defeat Stannis.
snow fact: when it snows, the wind might push and accumulate the snow against a wall, so it wouldn't be just the 10cm (4inch) you find on a path. Something Theon and Sansa probably know.
Snow drifts can be huge! Definitely safe to jump into.
If I remember correctly from the books, the snow almost reached up to half the castle wall. They could have shown this in the show.
Ever since you started using a handbell for this show I couldn’t help but think of the “Shame!…Shame!…Shame!” handbell scene every time.
Ahh this episode always gets me. I was sooo mad when they killed John. I was done with the show. I just couldn’t watch anymore. And then the next season came out and I was over it 😂
Out of all our main characters it seems like Tyrion is the only one who came out relatively unscathed from this tumultuous season. He's the only one who's in a better position than he was at the start.
Aish..Cool Mom will have hardwork monitoring comments tonight for sure...😂😂😂
i like how drogo just made himself a nest in the dathraki sea like he was born in the dathraki sea and he returned to it when he was old enough like drogs go back to where they born
I've been worried about you knowing this was coming. Stay strong - the ride is just getting started. xo
Love how when Cersei is getting her newest haircut, first thing you did was also grab your own hair lol. like you feel the pain vicariously
For the Watch
Up here in the Boston Suburbs during the blizzard of '78. We jumped off every height we could find.
After everything she's done and is indirectly responsible for she absolutely deserves that and more.
These last few episodes had a lot of dark moments but that Arya killing Meryn Trant scene was particularly dark. It's probably the most graphic way someone's been murdered in the show. For some reason it feels way more repulsive than swords going through people's heads. Probably because of the ambience and the tone of that scene, feels horrifying. Cersei's atonement too. It's a tough watch. There's a passage in the book where Uncle Kevan is wondering how Tywin had done the same thing to his father's 2nd wife, and what the Golden Lion would've felt knowing his daughter was being herded through the streets like a common prostitute. House Lannister took a fall from grace this season, but then again who didn't?
His father's mistress*
@@jasongrace4005 Right on! My bad. mistress not wife. I forgot Tytos caught a heart attack while climing stairs before things could've gone any further.
Trust us... it was like WE ALL got stabbed in the heart. That trauma lasted for a LLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time.
The finale itself is great with lots of intense moments, hooks, cliffhangers, crazy ups and downs that keep you on the edge and leaves you in an ethical bind. Case in point is the events in KL. If you're wondering, Cersei isn't actually free. She's still imprisoned in the Red Keep until her trial and Tommen is under the Sparrow's thumb. It's in the Faith's interest to keep a weak king in power who they can control. It's not a ploy to "make you feel bad for Cersei". *That it doesn't feel right to enjoy the misery of a person even as despicable as Cersei due to the perverse nature of her punishment is a testament to the ethical dilemma the series always puts you in* . Besides Dorne I like most of it. The season's great for Hardhome alone. The North feels dark and depressing with the bleak, snowed out monochrome scenery. The filming looks straight out of an enchanting nightmare winter with the damsel in the tower and all. A spirit breaking aura hangs over the Bolton North. I never get hung up on the unresolved arcs, you just have to soak in the moment and let it play out. This is the series at its bleakest. It can be emotionally exhausting, but that's also the fun part.
Ngl the Jon death hit me hard, but that was probably everyone who didn't know it was coming. I find the second half of the season really draining on the mind because of how fatalistic and despondent it is. Not everyone can appreciate this style of story progression most of us need a bone thrown at us, some type of silver lining, or we get exasperated. But personally I love this never ending loop of "get ready for your soul to be destroyed". The dawn doesn't mean much without the night. All the arcs are left brazenly open ended without making any concessions. They don't give you any ground at all, you have no choice but to wait and see. Imagine if you had to wait a whole year for answers! But that's also what was the strange appeal of this fascinating show.
They built up to Theon finally snapping it instead of doing it randomly put of nowhere. First the wedding. Then the info about bran and rickon. A turning point was coming. And it finally did at the right moment.
thank you for making it through this episode... love sharing all your reactions and yes, even the walk was sad .. but OMG killing Jon is the worst.. some people actually stopped watching because of his death.. you will see it through to the end.. and we will be here with you and at least you do not have to wait a year .. you can start season 6 whenever you are ready.. it is one of the best
I saw that you posted episode 5x10 and my immediate reaction was “oh dear god”
Same! Literally said "Oh no...oh no" out loud. 😅
"Et tu, Olly?" - Jon Snow
the second episode all of the internet cried
"Excuse me, I wanted to see that" said by everyone everywhere. So much this
Season 5 was the last season for which there was a book to follow. From this point on, book readers and non-book readers were on equal footing.
John was murdered without finding out who his mother was. Food for Thought.
You're not the only one who felt sorry for Cersei at that moment. I agree with you, no one deserves that treatment.
The similarities between Robb's death and Jon's death are uncanny. Robb was ultimately stabbed in the heart by someone he trusted (Roose Bolton) and Jon was stabbed in the heart by someone he trusted (Olly).
Season 5 is so difficult to watch. Just when you think you've risen above the tragedy of season 3, season 5 tears you back down.
So many heartbreaking moments in this show.. binge the next few, like you would rip a bandaid fast rather than slow.. keep pushing!
16:08 the idea of the masks is that you need to let go of your past and essentially become no one to use them without consequence This is essentially someone with no identity and can blend in without your past habits limiting you.
When he said “the masks of the dead are as good as poison”, of which the masks of the people now being dead no longer have anything tying them to the world, it meant because Arya is still holding on to herself, she suffered a backlash of using it as seen with the blindness. As to be “no one” is essentially to be dead to the world without any physical or emotional attachments which Arya had.
Hope this explanation helps.
Stannis 💔
i love the interaccions between tyrion and varis realy a lovle couple
Aish… did you ever thought you would cry for cerci ?
I knew this would be so heartbreaking for you. Just remember GOT always moves on in interesting & fascinating ways. Season 6 is still good. It's hard losing Jon Snow.
They don't show it but there were huge snow drift up against the castle walls, so we can assume they landed in one of those.
🎶🎶 Heartaches by the numbers.....🎶🎶
Remember WE had to wait a year, and some of us are still waiting.
Many also blame Ollie... I do not !
Ahhh, I'm so exited for you to watch the next season which is the best in my opinion!
The emotions are why we watch. And I don't just mean your crying. Any emotion is fun. As bad as things get, please remember the show always rewards you for sticking with it after something really bad happens. In many other ways than you might expect. v
This is by far my favorite watching you ring the bell over and over more bells lol
I was so pissed that until the very end, ser Alliser and co. did not get it through their thick heads what Jon was trying to tell them. He did NOT retrieve the wildings because of having a “good heart” and feeling bad for the wildlings (though he probably did feel, too). He loved a wildling, but he was never a “wildling lover” over a brother of the night’s watch. He killed as many wildlings as anyone in the battle of Castle Black. He told them everything he knew to create a battle strategy that they could defeat the wildlings with, and at the very latest after the battle, they could see he was truthful about everything. He set out alone to kill Mance Rayder. But literally, if the wildlings stay on the other side of the wall, they will have to fight every single one of them in the form of undying ice zombies. Not only are their chances better if the wildlings fight alongside them instead: Even IF the wildlings proved traitorous, I should think they would rather take their odds with fighting them as humans. I understand there’s a lot of built up anger and nasty history between them: but that’s just your feelings speaking, not wisdom of what’s the best course of action. It is YOU, ser Alliser, who chose your personal feelings over what’s best for the Night’s Watch, NOT Jon.
They did tell us at the time of season 5 there would be no Bran scenes this season. Mainly because of the logistics of filming in so many different places. They added a location in Spain for Dorne.
Damn, Aish! Your reaction to Arya killing Meryn Trant was fucking bloodthirsty. I love it! 😁
Meryn Trant did beat and punch Sansa and now Sansa's sister killed him.
Watching the finale is like having a devil and an angel on my shoulders lol. One side with the halo and wings saying there's enough messed up shit in the real world to torture myself with this lol😇. The other side with the tail and pitchwork saying keep going, what's there to lose😈? I felt the same way as you did. Too many explosive twists and turns. This episode was a roller coster of an emotional mindfuck from start to finish and leaves all the stories up in the air at their most vulnerable points! If nothing else it certainly makes you think where the hell we can go from here. But then again I was never so attached to stannis or jon to be like the ones who threatened to rage quit. I mean if the level of fan following and cultural influence GoT had in those years was any indication I doubt anybody actually quit tho.
How GOT had you give 4 enthusiastic 🔔 rings then they kill Jon Snow. It's just heart wrenching.
Cersei use body double for walk of shame, it was not Lena headey it was body double Rebecca
Gold will be their crowns
Gold will be their shrouds
I love your reactions. The breakdown in parallels between Jon and Robb was really insightful and a new perspective I haven't heard before. Season 5 is a soul crusher. I can't wait for your adventure through Season 6 - it's WILD.
There are so many negatives right now....but....many characters are on the upswing....Dany,Tyrion,Sansa,Theon,Cersi,Brien,Bron....more...hold on ....3 more series to go and twists and turns that are unbelieveable
Just to give you some context on the show as a whole, this is where the books ended. Book readers are still waiting for GRRM to finish writing the next book so they can find out what happens after John is killed. So the rest of the show was produced with the showrunners relying on a pretty vague outline from Martin on what should happen over the next few books and so they had the responsibility of writing the rest of the story. Just something to keep in mind moving forward.
I like Jon's words: "For 8 thousand years Night's Watch swore to protect the realm of men and for 8 thousand years they broke that vow". He died for a good cause, defending his vows as he understood them. I just wish he could save more wildlings, there's like 200k joined the army of the dead. ☹
As soon as I walked in she was already crying 😂
The majority of viewers thought season four was the best. Personally, I thought season six was the best, so there is quite a lot to look forward to. I thought you handled John’s death extremely well for your tender heart❤️
After all these years, this episode still shocks, makes people shout "kill him, kill him!" then shouts "What the Fuck!" and cry at the end.
A Dance with Dragons - Jon XIII ( For the Watch )
...............................When Wick Whittlestick slashed at his throat, the word turned into a grunt. Jon twisted from the knife, just enough so it barely grazed his skin. He cut me. When he put his hand to the side of his neck, blood welled between his fingers. "Why?"
"For the Watch." Wick slashed at him again. This time Jon caught his wrist and bent his arm back until he dropped the dagger. The gangling steward backed away, his hands upraised as if to say, Not me, it was not me. Men were screaming. Jon reached for Longclaw, but his fingers had grown stiff and clumsy. Somehow he could not seem to get the sword free of its scabbard.
Then Bowen Marsh stood there before him, tears running down his cheeks. "For the Watch." He punched Jon in the belly. When he pulled his hand away, the dagger stayed where he had buried it.
Jon fell to his knees. He found the dagger's hilt and wrenched it free. In the cold night air the wound was smoking. "Ghost," he whispered. Pain washed over him. Stick them with the pointy end.
When the third dagger took him between the shoulder blades, he gave a grunt and fell face-first into the snow. He never felt the fourth knife. Only the cold …
The King who cared and his last word was "Duty".
Not the little cow bell!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
12:30 to 12:45........ For Sansa and Theon, look closely you will see; also people have survived falls and jumps from much higher heights ( plenty on YT ); I personally saw two men on different occasions survive a fall from : A roof over 80 feet high; and a repairman who got thrown from his bucket truck ~ 40 feet high ( he lost his job though for safety violation, OSHA wasn't happy, nor the company ).
For Arya scene.... you totally remind me of my wife when we go to hockey games.... so violent...😂😂
Oh how I have been waiting for this moment!
This episode pulled us in both directions in almost every key scene...
We were cheering for Arya to kill Meryn Trant, but were horrified by the stone cold blooded way she did it. And then to be stunned by her punishment for violating the rules.
We loved the heartfelt emotions in the Jaime-Myrcella scene, and immediately heartbroken by the treachery of her death.
We were shocked and horrified by the murder of Jon by Thorne's group, but can also understand the motivations that drove them (the thousands of years of tradition and history they felt they were defending) and Olly (having seen the wildlings slaughter his parents and village). The sense of justice seeing Cersei punished and humiliated for her crimes and sins, but sympathetic towards her because of how much physical suffering she had to endure. It's episodes like this that drive home just how good and trope-breaking this show really was.
Then, having to wait 9 months for the next season to see how things play out after all these stunning events. At least you get to see the fallout from this season without having to wait those gut-wrenching months!
This episode truly hurt me... after episode 9 I felt '' SAFE'' that the horrible deaths were behind me... And I expected episode 10 to be like '' The Cool Down '' episode, but then this bomb dropped on my head. It hurt even more bcuz Jon Snow was my fave character from day one. Gosh... This show truly rips me apart sometime. Yet I come back for more.
the stark cleansing is almost complete
This was the mother of all cliffhangers. The most blueballing of them all! When I say everybody wanted to know wtf happened with that ending, I mean everybody! This is when the "is Jon Snow dead" thing became a gif. It's the moment when the Jon Snow character entered popculture lexicon as that Luke Skywalker type iconic figure! I was never a member of the Stannis fan club, so I was nowhere near as down on the ending as some make it out to be. This season as a whole has some of my absolute favorite moments and I believe some of it is deliberately misunderstood by those who always had an an axe to grind over every little thing. A lot of it is latent backlash that boiled over to the surface after eight I guess. After eight everything they ever did has to be continuously scrutinized and re-critiqued. But when these seasons were airing in real time, the show had an incredible scale of interest. It was the 'it' show, the topic of water cooler talk. Countless people would not have been so emotionally invested in it for so long otherwise. It was truly a generational series.
What makes Meryn Trant's scene so disturbing... Imagine how much fun he was having every time Joffrey had him beat Sansa.
Jaimie has widows wail and i believe last time we catspaw the dagger little finger had it
aw im so sorry it made you cry :( hugs.
This epsiode was a nail biter and full of crazy cliffhangers.
GOT really gets to you.
When was the last episode that didn't make you cry ?
You're moving fast. Its hard not to continue to the next episode. I remember having to wait from Sunday to Sunday! Good review. Season 6 is my favorite season. Never forget Theon is a good man.
28:32 Cersei has done worse things to the people she hates especially in the books, maybe in a psychological way but still she has done cruel things. In the show she was the one who gave power to The High Sparrow and also armed the faith to make her enemies suffer but it back fired.
You are not alone. I too felt some compassion for Cersei. Whether you believe she deserved the punishment or not, the fact that the punishment came at the hands of religious zealots who are just as malicious, power-hungry, and ruthless as Cersei. They are the wrong people to be standing in judgement of anyone, much less ruling over the lives of others, and claiming that they are doing God's work... unless their God is evil.
Your tears for Cersei only show that you are a better person than she.
Thing is; This was Cersei's doing....It didn't have to happen.
@@pjfsr7024 Perhaps or perhaps not. True that she gave them power, but it doesn't justify what they did, anymore than the killings of Ned and Robb... who were largely responsible for bringing about their own end. And Cersei's actions in trying to use them to trap her enemies doesn't really change who they are, and the monstrous hypocrisy of what they do.
@@NovaLena22 Never stated or implied it was justified, just stated a fact; she caused her own punishment by the zealots she gave power to.
@@pjfsr7024 i didn't think you did. I was just giving commentary based on some of the opinions I already read. Sorry if it came off otherwise.
@@NovaLena22 it's all good...No problem.
Regardless of a High Sparrow, Cersei brought that on herself.
At least you don’t have to wait a whole year to know what will happen..😂😂
30:59 Mood Changer 101. Boom.
All they wanted is the ⌚
The most devastating moment since Ned Stark's execution.
5 builds & builds to something foreboding, you can almost feel the approaching calamity & then it all comes crashing down into a crescendo. Might feel disappointing but there's a beauty to this record 12 Emmy season. Even the cinematography & score is a reminder of a sinister dreary winter gloom & doom. The shots capture the hopelessness really well. But not all of us can enjoy a tense mournful buildup, they want it all instantly. I find hilarious the outrage over a gunslinging brooding cigarette in mouth cowboy western John Wayne antihero character that naturally attracts reactionary personality types on the basis of 'acceptable' evolutionary psychology. Book Stannis while a bit different, was also rigid & inflexible. Stannis' quest for the throne was never about power or politics but what he saw as an obligation for the greater good. Stannis was willing to go any length for that greater good & eventually he was going to fall on the sword of his obligation. Lots of book foreshadowing of his downfall. GRRM has confirmed Shireen's end was his idea & Stannis' end makes the most sense for where the Winterfell story is headed, no matter how much Stannis fanboys delude themselves into thinking he'll sit on the throne. People in general get frustrated when you take away the choice of rooting for clearly defined linear sides & instead have a cycle of morally ambiguous lesser evils (Stannis or Ramsay). For me 5 has its obvious weak points but the positives (Hardhome, King's Landing) far outweigh the negatives (Dorne). Of course, the season was rated way more highly by critics than the fandom & GoT had become the most watched drama series by this point, so the overtly negative perception didn't have any impact on the general viewers. It was more a reflection of the fandom, with all their opinions becoming some incredibly bad-faith variation of "they ruined this or that" & you get browbeaten if you point out anything positive about D&D. Some criticisms are justified, but most are laughably minor inconsistencies, straight up inventing faults retroactively, complaining about why they condensed 300 page subplots, insane nitpicking over subverted expectations, & just purists overcompensating with the hive mind circle jerk at GRRM's alter to cover for their lack of analytical ability to comprehend the purpose of the storytelling. The intent of every character (like Brienne) somehow become a 4d plot to demean Stannis lol. But yeah if you were watching without a preconceived notion from the fandom negativity, you usually tend to have a different perception.The key to understanding 5 is that it's a melancholic & long setup for "the wars to come". They build everything up just to knock it all down. It's fickle, it's the "wicked game". Winterfell with its grim spectral beauty represents that perfectly. Some say it relies on shocks, but the shocks are in the books too & the buildup is what makes the shocks hit. You have to take it for what it is,a beautifully poignant pitch-black Shakesperean tragedy. Also a season with 24 nominations & 12 Emmys which is still a record I believe. Breaking Bad won 16 total in context. No one can change that retroactively. (but I guess they did make the eternal sin of deviating from Ramsay's marriage to Jeyne Poole LOL).
2 cries on a single episode : it was christmas gift !
RIP in peace Jon Snow
Tough episode for sure. Sansa and Theon were able to jump because the snow piles up deep enough to break their fall on that side of the castle. Not saying anything else it would ruin season 6.
Maybe there was a hayrick underneath to keep it from compacting.
I can't lie. This episode nearly wrecked me. I weeped on episode 9 and assumed I was safe. But this one shook me to my core. Jon and Arya are my favorite two characters, followed by Tyrion.
So when I watched this episode, I was contemplating ending my watch...no pun intended.
I will say this. There is more of the show to look forward to, so don't throw in the towel just yet.
My favorite seasons are, in order, 6, 5, 7, 4, and 1. Even though Ned died in the first season, who he was as a man can be felt throughout the entirety of the show. It reflects in his children and the respect that even his enemies admired...even if begrudgingly.
Jon is very much like Ned to his core, and he learned a few newer things as he journeyed through his life.
My heart broke when they killed him. I would never condone harming or killing children, but in spite of what poor Shereen went through, I hated Olly and wanted him killed.
I understood his hateful feelings about the Wildlings, but to commit murder on someone that went out of their way to help you and train you... it was just too much. The anger in me for the betrayal....after the ugly crying tears stopped, the "Woman of Winter" in me wanted vengeance on Olly and the rest.
This episode just kept coming with the jaw dropping moments, but all I could think about was my beloved Jon Snow. He deserved so much better.
2 of my favorite reactor channels: Nikki and Steve and American Mum...their reactions were accurately how I felt...devastated, numb, angry and done.
Your reaction is definitely on point to how I felt as well. I appreciate you sharing your emotional reaction to my beloved character.
Love and blessings to you, my dear heart.
"Have the crow!". You'd make a good hunter. 😂
Jon Snow is my favorite GOT character when I saw this i couldn't speak for days. Try to help people and they kill you oh humans
Thank the Gods you won’t have to wait over a year for your answers. Season Five was the downer of downers with only Hardhome has uplifting even if scary as hell. Keep on keeping on.