The 'Axis Lock' Just Evolved! || Kizer Drop Bear and Clutch Lock.
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
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0:01 Introducing the Kizer Drop Bear!
0:12 Kizer Drop Bear Full Spec Overview
0:37 Kizer Drop Bear Size Comparison with Benchmade Bugout, CIVIVI Elementum, and WE Banter
1:11 Explaining the new Kizer Drop Bear Clutch Lock and Gemini Springs. It's Adjustabel!
3:12 How to Take the Drop Bear/Clutch Lock Apart. It's an adjustable Axis style lock!
4:16 How to adjust the Clutch Lock
7:14 The differences in the Clutch Lock Adjustments from position 1-5
9:12 Deep Diving into the Drop Bear name, designer, my favorite features, and what it means for the Axis style lock ecosystem.
Get a Kizer Drop Bear here (when they are available): www.kizerknive...
Check out the designer Azo here: / azomight
Kizer's new Drop Bear is more than just a new Axis Style Lock knife. With a 154 CM Blade, aluminum scales, buttery smooth action, and a new perfect fit in the hand you can bet it's exactly what you would expect from a company like Kizer. Kizer is calling the lock the Clutch Lock it runs on Omega Springs and it is adjustable! This simple but ingenious design is going to give you five levels of adjustability to your Clutch Lock making it the first type of this lock that can be personalized and customized from factory! Since they are inviting us into the knife they put great consideration into accessing the adjustable Clutch System but making the scales sit on top of the stainless steel liners using only two torx head screws. The also made the pivot screws independent of one another using a D-Shaped pivot nut. So you can take apart one whole side of the knife without having to consider the other.
The Clutch Lock on the Kizer Drop Bear is a really innovative design not because it's overly complicated or because it's something entirely new but because it's the first to open the door to variation in a lot of our favorite lock type. I've been carrying the Drop Bear for a few weeks now and am really loving it as a new knife and I am really excited to see what potential it has unlocked for the 'Axis' Style lock world.
The production value just sky rocketed. Its awesome to see you leveling up. Blade hq was never the same when you left.
If we're being really honest, Blade HQ was never the same after Ben left. It was the chemistry between Ben and Zac that made the channel. Once DCA started working for the opposition, Blade HQ was pretty well dead in the water. Nice to see Zac's personal channel doing well though.
@@twatmunro Just watched KnifeBanter #50 (Bens Collection aka the Knives Ben Stole) and thought exactly the same.
Side note: the additional Gemini springs included are thicker than the installed ones. These will give you a little more resistance if desired. GREAT VIDEO! Thank you for sharing.
this is why im so happy that the axis lock patent ended. now other companies can really improve on it. hope this happens with the compression lock
Totally agree!
#FACTS
there actually were 'copies' of the compression lock made... there was a company out of germany called 'cherusker messer'. they had two or three overseas produced models in their lineup that used a 'puzzle lock' which was essentially a modified compression lock. operated the same, but the engaging interface was a bit different.
the models were one jürgen schanz design, more utilitarian in character, and the 'lapu lapu corto' by bram frank in at least three sizes, which is a highly specialized self defense design.
What types of innovations would you want with the compression lock?
@@Mr1121628 i wouldnt want to change anything about the comp lock^^ i think they changed something in the lock interface to prevent any patent issues.
We are living in the Golden Age of knife making! So many innovations, so many knives, not enough monies!
Kizer has really been making some interesting knives lately. It’s crazy how much Kizer has evolved from mainly titanium frame locks to interesting stuff like this. Thank you Kizer!
Remember Ya'll, if you're not familiar with Axis-style locks, that you'll need to adjust both springs if you're changing the spring position, not just one. You probably could get away with just doing one spring, but the tension might feel a little wonky, & it could be harder on the springs, making them more likely to break.
Overall I think it's really cool to see something like this, especially since it only involves simply drilling a few extra holes for one end of the spring. Great job as always, Kizer!
As a side note: Yes, I have had several Benchmade Omega springs break on me, without significant fidgeting or anything. I actually prefer the aftermarket springs much more & those have never broken on me. Any time I get a new Benchmade now, I immediately replace the springs. The aftermarket springs alsao have just a touch more tension than factory ones from BM, which is nice since I get tension I like without having to bend the new springs.
The production quality is so different compared to a “tabletalk” video it makes the video a lot more engaging, nice work guys.
Really appreciate it💪
I recently had an Omega spring break on my Bugout. I wrote Benchmade and they said they couldn’t send me an extra set and that I had to send it in for warranty repair and from what I hear that takes several weeks. So I said to heck with it and ordered aftermarket springs and fixed it myself in just a few days time. You are right about these big knife brands needing to jump on the boat and offer more options for those of us who enjoy working on our own knives. Great video Zac. Keep it up. 👍🏻
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Awesome that they have extra springs included
Same happened to me. Mine is still at Benchmade
I've had a horrible time with them lately as a vendor.
As an assembler at Benchmade, that is amazing mechanism on the pivot screws. We use a similar D-nut concept when we’re assembling our knives, so this is really cool to see in the wild
I have a Griptillian, I always want to call it a Gripzilla for some reason, lol.
Anyway, awesome knife, had it for about 12 years no problems except one of the springs for the Axis lock became dislodged about 5 years ago and reduced the tension just enough so I can now easily close it one handed with just my thumb pulling only one side of the lock back as opposed to having to pull both sides with thumb and forefinger.
So the flaw became a feature. But I really like how this new Kizer let's you adjust the detent from the start. Great innovation. But much respect to Benchmade for the original concept.
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I own several bugouts. Every single one had a break in period for that axis lock. Just bought a Kizer drop bear and right out the box it’s dead perfect. I can flick it as soft or as hard as I want and it won’t stick at all when I tug on the lock. Why can’t Benchmade do that? Oh yeah they’re focused on raising their prices 😂
I love this idea for the Axis lock and hope they move it to other knife offerings. Thanks for the heads up!
Same! I don’t know if it’s a good idea but I love the idea of a sheepdog with a Clutch lock!
Common sense first evolution for the lock, I'm shocked no one has done it before now, congratulations Kizer.
And to include extra hardware and springs, is class act, and should be the standard across the board, even if it's baked into the price.
Still reasonably prices also, as you may otherwise spend the money and don't like it, because of the lock/detent tension.
All that and the Lefty Love, puts this on my list of wants.
Like most knife enthusiasts I've seen my share of rather mundane knife reviews. Thank you for taking the time to care enough to deliver your content in both an informative and entertaining way. Thank you for not settling for a "surfacy" presentation in a multitude of ways. Great presentation is work but thank you for taking the time and effort to care. 🙂
I just got this knife yesterday for Christmas. I had never heard of Kizer before yesterday. In my opinion this knife is every bit as smooth and nicely finished as the couple of Benchmade knives I have, possible more so. Zero blade play, well balanced, nice quality pocket clip, and super silky smooth action. The only downside for some people is that it's made in China.
A really cool clip! 🤣 And a really cool knife. I broke the omega spring on my bugout, bought stronger aftermarket springs, managed to puut it back together thanks to a youtube clip but now I have blade play and by trying to solve the problem I ruined the pivot screw and I couldn't get a new one because I live in Germany and the authorized dealer won't sell one to me because I didn't buy from him . . . HELLO KIZER!!!!!!
Wonderful video! Something that is interesting is that the extra lock springs in the box are thicker and are more stiff than the springs that come on the knife. I swapped my springs out and the detent was much much stronger!
Rad! I didn’t catch that👊
I was wondering about that. Thanks for posting.
My titanium and lc200n dropbear just arrived!! I’m really enjoying it, the finish on the ti is crazy and the detent with the stiff springs and highest tension settings is the best on any crossbar lock I’ve tried, even better than my kunwu pulsar which I love
This is one of those rare knives that, the moment I held/opened it, I immediately loved it. It quite possibly went into my top 5 favourite knives I own in like a day.
What are the other four?
@@wethotgrass That's an excellent question. There are ones that I just like, or have sentimental value, like my CJRB Scoria, my Civivi Badlands Vagabond that I masked and dyed myself, and an old baseball bat shaped "Babe Ruth" slipjoint that my grandfather gave me. (I don't even like sports, but that's some serious sentimental value). My Off Grid Knives Scorpion Stratus was the first over-$100 knives that I got. There's a bunch.
If I had to pick five of my knives to cover all of my knife needs and get rid of all the rest, my list would probably be as follows. (And I'm not saying this is the right list for ANYBODY else). In no particular order:
- Kizer Drop Bear
- Aluminum scales Benchmade Bugout
- Baby Banter
- Microtech Ultratech S/E OTF
- Traditional Ka-Bar
This doesn't include my damascus Sujihiki, my hand-made chef's knife from Toledo, Spain, or my hand-made, gorgeous chef's knife from Marcus Johnson Bladesmithing.
Combine this with the CRKT’s Field Strip technology and you have a great customizable knife without having to use tools.
That would be epic!
I will ignore ALL your RAD drops, because you are very informative, thanks.
I watch a lot of knife vids and I’m not sure that anyone else has covered this feature on this knife yet. Regardless, it’s awesome seeing you doing your own thing. Keep the content coming, Zach!
Hands down one of my favorite knife reviews. You're killing these videos lately!
Dude so glad you OG knife banter guys are making content still. Was super bummed when you guys left
Very good and accurate ending. As an Aussie I can say. I love our Drop bears you just have to be careful in the bush at night.
Zach my man you are a legend
Video editing, carpentry etc you can do it all!
I love that Kizer is doing this. One reason why we might see this kind of thing from certain companies is because they don't have the same warranty service obligations as some others, and customers don't have the same expectations. As much as I love those services, it really opens up cool new possibilities to see intentionally modable designs
Something about the design stood out to me when I saw this Kizer. Thanks for the deep dive man! 🐨🔪🤙
Glad it was helpful🤙
And this is why patients have an expiration date. Benchmade found a real winner in the axis lock and ran with it was long a they could solo to tie it to their brand. Now we can start to see companies doing cool stuff like this so they aren't just making a vanilla copy of the original. I dig the extra springs too. I have never broken a set of omega springs but my main work knife wore out a set. The center of the springs were sanded down by dirt and grime until they fell in two. I digress, great video once again sir. I look forward to the next one.
Thanks for sharing. Cool to see an iteration to that lock design.
That's really cool! It's always crazy when someone has a great idea like that, and it immediately becomes obvious. You wonder why it took so long for someone to think of that.
The beauty of innovation once the impossible obvious happens it can really open doors🤘
Great video and this adjustability is gonna open up a lot of customization for a lot of people! Love Kizer! :D
I had an omega spring break on my bugout after a few months. Ordered some replacements and haven't had an issue in the 3 years since.
The cameo at the end 🤌
No Drop Bears we’re hurt in the making of this video😎
Wow.... I really love this. it's like a minimalized bugout. I hope there's a serrated version
Zac, thank you so much for getting back into the knife scene. I'm assuming you had a non-compete, glad it's over. Hope to see you at BSWest.
Great review Zac! Thanks for bringing this to our attention because I'm not sure I would have heard of this knife otherwise. This is a really cool idea for a knife, but part of me wonders about the longevity of the springs if you adjust them too much. I think it's a cool idea and I hope Kizer is successful with it though! I'd also be curious about it's use in a larger knife with a three and a half to four inch blade. I also wonder how well it will actually sell in the market? Will people see this as just a gimmick or as an actual advancement in knife design? I don't know. I feel like Kizer is one of those big knife brands that is always the bridesmaid never the bride. They don't have the big reputation of the much bigger brands (at least in North America) like your Benchmades, Bucks, Spydercos, WE's, Cold Steel or CRKT's, but they also don't have that niche boutique feel of smaller brands for Chris Reeve or Knafs or Vero. Kizer has always been a brand I appreciate but never actually owned. Wow, I didn't know I had such complex emotions over a knife company, anyway if you've read this far thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Love all the insight! If someone is a person snapping omega springs I actually think the Gemini springs would last longer because you can set them under less tension. Totally agree on kizer perception in North America. I think them and WE are making some of the best production knives out there even if a lot of the designs miss for me a lot. Thanks for sharing👊
i predict that there will be a huge market for custom 3rd party scales with this guy for how easy the scales go on and off. cannot wait to see how this knife is!
Kizer. Just. Keeps Raising The BAR . Great Video Thanks ZACK 😊
I do like the adjustability and simplicity in removing the scales, especially since changing the smooth metal scales would be done likely before I ever even carry it
Damn, I love that blade shape.
Great intro to the Drop Bear! I can't wait to get one. It's a beautiful tool. Thanks Zac!
Just ordered the lc200 version...can't wait!
I ve carried fixed blades for the last 7 years and I think this may be my first "premium folder".
I agree with you, game changer.
Great Review! It's always is a plus when you understand mechanical workings like you do.Always enjoy your videos.
The koala at the end🤣🤣🤣. Wish this was available bc I'd already have a tracking number 🙂
Had to do it🤣
Great content Zac 💪🏽
Thanks!💪
Lmao the drop bear got ya!!! I really like the stout tip on that blade shape. The model with the anodized thumb stud is cool too!
I’m honestly in love with the blade stick and shape!
Great video, I've got one of these coming in the mail tomorrow.
Can't wait to get my hands on it. I'm loving what Kizer is doing right now.
Hoping for an XL version of this knife and maybe seeing the clutch lock on the Begleiter. Oh yeahhhh
This is a fantastic innovation on the axis lock. The only thing extra that I would have asked for is for the tightest setting to be more than your normal amount. The lightest should have been less than most people want and the tightest should have been more than most people want to give both extremes and everything in between. The lightest probably already is, but I love the spring tension on an axis mechanism. I'm sure you could tweak the spring to do whatever you want or even drill your own custom settings into the frame. Awesome knaf and awesome review!
Great vid. I’m convinced. Ill be adding a Drop Bear to my collection in the next week or so. Excited to see what options the aftermarket will bring to the table.
What a great idea! First thing I do when I get a benchmade is loosen the pivot to get better action lol
Yep, gotta buy that. I hope some dealers eventually have an upgraded exclusive
It would be so cool to see some blade and handle variations for sure!
Great looking knife. Nice innovation.
My thoughts, bearings on the lock system. Most axis style locks are metal on metal creating drag. Bearings on the moving studs would be epic smoothness.
and epic cost! 😅
Glad you did the tests with the different settings. The first thing i thought was, how will this make a difference and it's all down to how easy or hard it is to work the lock bar.
Very cool customization, love the blade profile too!
This knife is going to be a darling of the community, @OriginalGoat and other scale makers are going to go wild. Knife modders dream.
I really hope so!
I miss you on blade hq, but I'm glad to have found your personal channel!
This looks very cool! I like that you can customize the knife and the purple thumb studs on the black; Take my money! 🤑
I've broken all the omega springs on all my omega spring knives, so it's great to have a spare set.
This is awesome. I have a Griptillian, I always want to call it a Gripzilla for some reason, lol.
Anyway awesome knife, had it for about 12 years no problems except one of the springs for the Axis lock became dislodged about 5 years ago and reduced the tension just enough so I can now easily close it one handed with just my thumb pulling only one side of the lock back as opposed to having to pull both sides with thumb and forefinger.
So the flaw became a feature. But I really like how this new Kizer let's you adjust the detent from the start. Great innovation.
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Thanks for putting this knife in the spotlight!! Keep the videos coming!!
Hey Zac! Great video as usual.
Happy new years my man.
Great job Zac !
Can’t wait for the micarta version
That Kizer sure is a nice looking knife. A good mix of multiple knife blade shapes and handles. I think I might have to get one to try it out! Thanks for the vid, Zac... always interesting to hear your thoughts on different things especially knves and tools.
I think you’ll dig it! Thanks for checking out the vid👊
Outstanding review I purchased Escort in Burlap and I had adjust the omega springs 3 times and I want purchase Drop Bear in Black blade the same one have your holding I probably have to adjust the Omega springs but that's fine it's on sale right now $95 you can't beat that again outstanding review thank you again Zac
That seems so obvious in retrospect. Well done Kizer!
Agreed😁
Top quality video production! Keep it up Zac!
I would like to see benchmade do this. Hopefully Kizer has fixed its hardware. It's known to be kinda soft and strip friendly.
Thank you for another great video Zac. It looks like a great size, it kind of reminds of the size of the HK you shown before.
Some similarities for sure! The HK is a bit more compact.
Oh gotcha! By the time I got into knives HK was being made by hogue. I’ve had my eye on a few of the HK models. I only own one hogue product so far and it the full size Doug Ritter and I love that one.
At least they put a reversible pocket clip on this. Unlike on the original button lock. :(
Another great video Zac! I’m definitely picking one of these up when the release.
Glad it was useful👊
Thanks for your great review.
Great video keep them coming!
Now we need a Big Bear at 3.5 inches!
I’m sure they’ll do it!
Great looking knife, and I really like your tool also I think it’s awesome that it comes with a pocket clip.
I’d be curious to know which tension level compares to the bugout? Because I think the pull on the bugout is perfect
Drop bears are the most dangerous animal in Australia. I once saw someone attacked by one when I was out bushwalking and the memory of that vicious mauling will never leave me.
Stay strong👊
Nice unique look brother 🤜 that was a great overview
Thanks man👊
That's awesome and the production value you offer is great.
Thanks! Production value is all Jamie the wizard🤘
@@zacinthewild Humbleness is good too, your doing a great job with your content.
Great video. Thank you.👌
Such a simple design and great idea wish I could pick one up
I just got my drop bear plus another Fiest I've gotta say I'm loving what some of the Chinese companies are doing Kizer, Kansept and We/civivi but enough of that I'm off to play around with some Gemini springs 👍
Impressive, both the knife’s features, your presentation and your access to this new knife. Not many other American knife bloggers have presented it yet. One question, what is the default spring setting out of the box (1-5)? Keep up the good content. Shoutout to Jamie on the drop bear effects.
Thank you! The ones they sent over were set at 5 or the most resistance. I would assume that is how they will all ship.
I had a ganzo that had extra holes like this. Though, there was only a couple of spare holes (I think it was 3 positions)
I've just been looking at these. Loved the handle, hated the blade. Looking forward to different knives using the same lock though.
I wonder if you put it on the loosest setting can you force it closed? You can flip it open without using the lock, can you close it without? This is big- opening the door to so much innovation! The prospect of a locking slip joint is fascinating to me
It has a positive lock at the top like any other axis style lock.👊
I need that badass mean koala bear knife!!
If they made a tanto version 🤤 take my money
Not a fan of the blade design but I am intrigued by the clutch lock.
Another great video. So simple thing like 5 small holes in the frame making so huge difference 🤔 It’s very nice that Kizer adding extra set of springs, so far I have only 1 knife with axis lock ( mini griptilian) and often I’m wondering what I’m gonna do if omega spring will brake? Of course is millions ways and tricks on UA-cam but I couldn’t find original replacement set in any knives shops what I’m using 😒 Are you planning record something with Kurt? I’m sure lot of us waiting for it.
Definitely need to get with Kurt!🤘
Got mine yesterday and it's awesome 👌
Rad! Glad you’re digging it.
Spare parts and springs are just a great attention to the costumers! Living in Belgium could make it very difficult to obtain spare omega springs from benchmade for example...And from the inventor of the axis-lock, the success of the brand and the price range of benchmade, don't see that kind of things(the spare parts), it's just a shame...
Again great review from your part! Greetings from Belgium! And sorry for my very average and poor english....;(
I always wondered when someone would do that
I've got the fatcarbon one and I love it
GREAT review, of course. Very interesting knife as well! Almost makes me want to buy from China again 😁 I think you've become my favorite channel on UA-cam, keep up the good work 😎👍
Means a lot🙏
A fun upgrade to the axis lock!! Thanks for another fun video! #DSKFS
I'd definitely like to see this but with less belly, perhaps like the Hogue deka. I also think interchangeable locks for different textures would be good, similar to thumb studs -- some are too smooth, some bite too much.
Coming in $40-$60 cheaper than the bugout, kizer might just have conquered the bugout market!
Definitely not lightweight like the Bugout but definitely an awesome price for what it is.!
Hope you're okay, that drop bear was huge!