*EDIT: tested the latest PTR build on 11 Sep - VDH's tier set actually spawns A HELL LOT of fragments on multi-target pulls. I feel it's actually stronger than I initially rated it, I am not sure if it's AS GOOD as 10.1 Fiery Brand bonuses. But it will b e interesting if they nerf the amount of fragment spawns*
I agree blizzard is probably looking at the top 2 tanks and trying to not make them crazy powerful again but the issue is that guardian is strong as a class, especially from the rework. Vengeance is literally only strong because of the tier set
We will probably need it since of all my tanks, the bm takes the most damage, even more than my blood dk since we have little uptime for armor buffs and %dmg reductions buffs. As the damage ramps up even more next season, the leech will probably be what stabilizes our hp bar since expel harm and purifying brew can only do so much to keep our hp bar from yo-yoing when we don't have much damage reduction before stagger comes into play.
@@maartenneppelenbroek the feel of prot pally in my opinion feels good was a bit of a bummer when avenger shield doesn’t generate holy power but consecration feels like a hassle especially with the new set
I might recommend another review of the Prot warrior tier set. The bleed damage is @ #1/#2 damage on the warriors profile, competing with shield slam. This is an insane amount of damage. Its pushing more TC spam whilst reducing the CD on TR. I'm 100% going into m+ s3 as prot warr, to the point where i believe the tier set is overpowered and will likely get nerfed, thats how good i think it is.
@@edeniteInteresting. Been considering moving off my Paladin since WoG costs mana. Now with the tier being absolute ass imo, it might be time for some change.
You are misunderstanding what the tier set does and how it shows on details. Once you put bleeds on a target, that damage is guaranteed to be dealt and therefore you’ve already dealt that damage, it’s just being spaced out. When you shield slam, it doesn’t deal additional damage as that bleed damage is guaranteed to happen, it’s just making it happen instantly. So in short, the damage it shows your tier set doing is actually damage that is guaranteed to happen, it’s just attributing the damage to your tier set name instead of the actual bleed damage ability. In short - the tier ser ONLY is a 10-14% damage increase on a target you shield slam.
what weak aura or addon is it that shows the abilities of the enemies cooldowns above the enemy frame is so clean and simple id really like to have it or if its something i already have and just need to configure id love too!
I feel like with the dungeons we will be getting in season 3 blood dk with all the mob control will be really strong a lot of those dungeons have marksman style adds and casters that blood will be good to gather up.
I agree that the Prot Pally tier set is underwhelming, but if you have a mastery build you HAVE to be in consecration… Dodging raid and M+ mechanics and being able to get back into consecration before the damage gets you is just how Prot works unless you decide to do a vers build… At least they are buffing the existing mechanic and making it a little more worthwhile…
@quaziiwow for the blood dk set: do you think heart strike and blood boil will extend the duration of ashen decay during dancing rune weapon by 3 seconds? remember in shadowlands the blood dk set extended dancing rune weapon by 0.5 seconds, and the 4p set summoned 2 rune weapons and heart strike extended the duration by 1.5 seconds
I really don't think that the brewmaster 4 set is that great, it basically states that a flat 5% of your total DPS is prevented on your stagger (convoluted implementation but will be functionally close to this) the effective DR seems fairly even compared to druid which is a 20% of your dps on specific windows with 25% uptime (drood has the advantage of adding the armor from IF while monk get the fire leech) VDH set efficiency will really depend on the talent rework (which is supposed to enhance sigil). Paladin sounds aweful War might be good in raid but yeah feels really shitty in AoE scenario, could be fairly easily fixed by applying to revenge or thunderclap though Don't really know about DK so can't really speak about this one
Great video, will be looking forward to the next patches and changes inc. has blizzard done anything to change the buttonbloat from brewmaster monks in 10.2 ?? it feels like they have way to many talents and buttons to press!
Paladin Set seems complete dogsh**. Consec is something you have to permanently lay down again after having to move mobs cause of effects on the floor or sanguine. So giving us a setbonus that only empowers one use of it is stupid
I think the BDK tier is by far the best no doubt and I also think the brew tier set could be really great but I think you maasively miss judge the druid tier bonus. While idk if it's stronger or weaker than the old one I definitely think it's the second strongest of all the new ones. I would assume with no changes that it is very close to the old one.
*EDIT: tested the latest PTR build on 11 Sep - VDH's tier set actually spawns A HELL LOT of fragments on multi-target pulls. I feel it's actually stronger than I initially rated it, I am not sure if it's AS GOOD as 10.1 Fiery Brand bonuses. But it will b e interesting if they nerf the amount of fragment spawns*
I agree blizzard is probably looking at the top 2 tanks and trying to not make them crazy powerful again but the issue is that guardian is strong as a class, especially from the rework. Vengeance is literally only strong because of the tier set
on top of all of what you said about Blood they will be able to use the Legendary axe as well
Feels good to be a brew main, new 2 set is like a massive amount of leech.
We will probably need it since of all my tanks, the bm takes the most damage, even more than my blood dk since we have little uptime for armor buffs and %dmg reductions buffs. As the damage ramps up even more next season, the leech will probably be what stabilizes our hp bar since expel harm and purifying brew can only do so much to keep our hp bar from yo-yoing when we don't have much damage reduction before stagger comes into play.
Maybe for the prot paladin consecration they could make the empowered be a aura kinda like the abomination limbs on dks
Personally wouldn't mind a full rework for Protection Paladin tier.
@@maartenneppelenbroek the feel of prot pally in my opinion feels good was a bit of a bummer when avenger shield doesn’t generate holy power but consecration feels like a hassle especially with the new set
right now on ptr, brew healing 50% fire damage is only from own abilities, any trinkets, weapons or enchants dont heal you
You get a crazy amount of souls form the 2 set to VDH. I think might be realy good.
Not to mention that they're also getting a rework, focused on the use of sigils. Brew and DH are going to reign
@quaziiwow any word on your updated plater for S3??
Yup it will be in time as usual already updating it based off m+ testing this weekend
I might recommend another review of the Prot warrior tier set. The bleed damage is @ #1/#2 damage on the warriors profile, competing with shield slam. This is an insane amount of damage. Its pushing more TC spam whilst reducing the CD on TR.
I'm 100% going into m+ s3 as prot warr, to the point where i believe the tier set is overpowered and will likely get nerfed, thats how good i think it is.
Your bleed dmg is higher than Thunderclap and revenge in M+?
@@maartenneppelenbroek Yes the tier set Bleed damage called "Fervid Bite" is doing more than TC/Revenge
@@edeniteInteresting. Been considering moving off my Paladin since WoG costs mana. Now with the tier being absolute ass imo, it might be time for some change.
You are misunderstanding what the tier set does and how it shows on details. Once you put bleeds on a target, that damage is guaranteed to be dealt and therefore you’ve already dealt that damage, it’s just being spaced out. When you shield slam, it doesn’t deal additional damage as that bleed damage is guaranteed to happen, it’s just making it happen instantly. So in short, the damage it shows your tier set doing is actually damage that is guaranteed to happen, it’s just attributing the damage to your tier set name instead of the actual bleed damage ability. In short - the tier ser ONLY is a 10-14% damage increase on a target you shield slam.
what weak aura or addon is it that shows the abilities of the enemies cooldowns above the enemy frame is so clean and simple id really like to have it or if its something i already have and just need to configure id love too!
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I feel like with the dungeons we will be getting in season 3 blood dk with all the mob control will be really strong a lot of those dungeons have marksman style adds and casters that blood will be good to gather up.
I agree that the Prot Pally tier set is underwhelming, but if you have a mastery build you HAVE to be in consecration… Dodging raid and M+ mechanics and being able to get back into consecration before the damage gets you is just how Prot works unless you decide to do a vers build… At least they are buffing the existing mechanic and making it a little more worthwhile…
The only problem is that once you move and replant consecration you loose your empowered one and in M+ there is movement nonstop.
@quaziiwow
for the blood dk set:
do you think heart strike and blood boil will extend the duration of ashen decay during dancing rune weapon by 3 seconds?
remember in shadowlands the blood dk set extended dancing rune weapon by 0.5 seconds, and the 4p set summoned 2 rune weapons and heart strike extended the duration by 1.5 seconds
Kyrasis (Top 6 BDK ) made excelent review of tier set . you can extend maximum 10.4 secs
I really don't think that the brewmaster 4 set is that great, it basically states that a flat 5% of your total DPS is prevented on your stagger (convoluted implementation but will be functionally close to this) the effective DR seems fairly even compared to druid which is a 20% of your dps on specific windows with 25% uptime (drood has the advantage of adding the armor from IF while monk get the fire leech)
VDH set efficiency will really depend on the talent rework (which is supposed to enhance sigil).
Paladin sounds aweful
War might be good in raid but yeah feels really shitty in AoE scenario, could be fairly easily fixed by applying to revenge or thunderclap though
Don't really know about DK so can't really speak about this one
Great video, will be looking forward to the next patches and changes inc. has blizzard done anything to change the buttonbloat from brewmaster monks in 10.2 ??
it feels like they have way to many talents and buttons to press!
hmm no real pruning on button bloat from 10.1 -> 10.2 - however you can run passive talents, to help you with the button bloat
Paladin Set seems complete dogsh**. Consec is something you have to permanently lay down again after having to move mobs cause of effects on the floor or sanguine. So giving us a setbonus that only empowers one use of it is stupid
What are you planning to main in 10.2 ?
I don't see how Vengeance DH will be able to survive high keys now with that garbage of a set.
I think the BDK tier is by far the best no doubt and I also think the brew tier set could be really great but I think you maasively miss judge the druid tier bonus. While idk if it's stronger or weaker than the old one I definitely think it's the second strongest of all the new ones. I would assume with no changes that it is very close to the old one.
fck set bonus right ? DK only legendary wearer
it is clear like blue sky that you will see only Monk and Dk on Mythic Plus , nothing new , other tanks era ended new begins
Always.