How to beat Elphelt's Rekka

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  • Опубліковано 8 гру 2023
  • this is pretty rudimentary and the move has alot of idiosyncrasies so theres likely something i missed or got wrong so make sure you comment below and add your input
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  • @AMEMORYSAY0
    @AMEMORYSAY0 7 місяців тому +934

    The Elphelt guy himself making a How to counter Elphelt video first is crazy

    • @macanudo6206
      @macanudo6206 7 місяців тому +55

      man is so good that he make sure everyone catch on him

    • @victornguyen1175
      @victornguyen1175 7 місяців тому +44

      Probably because they know a ton of players are going to complain about it being a problem when they just don't want to learn or lab

    • @vexzel5550
      @vexzel5550 7 місяців тому +66

      The only way to be a master is to expose all your weaknesses. If you can overcome anyone who know all your weakness you've conquered yourself and anything that can oppose you.

    • @Axisok
      @Axisok 7 місяців тому +22

      He wants people to deflect shield after the first rekka, then he's going to just not attack and wait to punish it with c.S. It's all part of the plan.

    • @MayHugger
      @MayHugger 7 місяців тому +3

      Makes it more fun.

  • @Jaysona
    @Jaysona 7 місяців тому +257

    You know watching this video made me realize that Johnny has a 6 frame jab, and having to play against Elphelt a lot yesterday made it an unforgettable lesson.

    • @billymays313
      @billymays313 6 місяців тому +14

      Meanwhile I play Bridget and all it did is make me realize that I needed to hit the kick button because anything else is too slow lol

    • @thecactuarking
      @thecactuarking 6 місяців тому +9

      as a johnny main getting bodied by every elphelt capable of pressuring into rekka i feel you my brother

    • @yoohoo236
      @yoohoo236 6 місяців тому

      No wonder

    • @fartfacefromspace5678
      @fartfacefromspace5678 6 місяців тому +2

      so wtf do we do now???

    • @Jaysona
      @Jaysona 6 місяців тому +1

      @@fartfacefromspace5678 I learned eventually that you either pray for a trade or you can gamble a 2P since it’s a 5 frame

  • @ZeUbermeinsch
    @ZeUbermeinsch 7 місяців тому +382

    Should note that she can whiff cancel the rekkas, the cancel window is just a bit later than on hit.

  • @Inabaedits
    @Inabaedits 7 місяців тому +83

    The fact that elphelt is canonically in love with nago makes this even better. "Learn with Nago on how keep Elphelt TF OFF YOU"

    • @e0z048
      @e0z048 Місяць тому +3

      I mean she pretty much loves everyone

    • @MidnightFutaba
      @MidnightFutaba 9 днів тому

      Must be your first Guilty Gear Game

  • @lt.kitkat
    @lt.kitkat 7 місяців тому +44

    Nago bitch slapping Elph out of a combo is something I need more of in my life.

  • @pieciolot4050
    @pieciolot4050 7 місяців тому +123

    Great video hotashi, FGC needs these bite-sized tips videos like these

    • @erikkublack4523
      @erikkublack4523 7 місяців тому +3

      We used to have them, I dunno what happened.

    • @hakumenx1
      @hakumenx1 7 місяців тому +6

      ​@erikkublack4523 the community doesn't listen, content creators realised they get more views via over sensationalising any little thing.

    • @erikkublack4523
      @erikkublack4523 7 місяців тому

      @@hakumenx1 Sadness.

    • @JupitersWindySkies
      @JupitersWindySkies 7 місяців тому +2

      @erikkublack4523 i too believe random youtube comments 🤤

    • @sanicboi9187
      @sanicboi9187 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@@JupitersWindySkiesI mean it's very likely, it's either what he said or they didn't care anymore (which I doubt).

  • @flayncel
    @flayncel 7 місяців тому +91

    i can only imagine hotashi making this video and posting it thinking "i don't wanna hear y'all bitches complaining about this rekka"

  • @nekudarkenxRikuxXxda
    @nekudarkenxRikuxXxda 7 місяців тому +24

    Major Respect for using Cave Story music

    • @ckorp666
      @ckorp666 7 місяців тому +9

      the og ost too, the PROPER organya shit

  • @TohoEggbirb
    @TohoEggbirb 7 місяців тому +10

    We're making it out of Blood-Stained Sanctuary with the upgraded Polar Star with this one!

  • @BIaziken2
    @BIaziken2 7 місяців тому +450

    smart way to make people use a mechanic more, design a character that's weak to it.

    • @user-ir8te9me9r
      @user-ir8te9me9r 7 місяців тому +62

      When the only reliable counter is one mechanic.. then it's a bad design

    • @YoTerrako
      @YoTerrako 7 місяців тому

      @@user-ir8te9me9rnot really it can be good sometimes

    • @snowys4168
      @snowys4168 7 місяців тому +68

      @@user-ir8te9me9r This is why fighting games are badly designed in general. Lots of stuff you have to block, it's awful.

    • @keithlee1007
      @keithlee1007 7 місяців тому +235

      ​@@user-ir8te9me9rdawg u just watched a video of other counters

    • @dragonic22
      @dragonic22 7 місяців тому +197

      @@snowys4168 Oh no, you cant mindlessly mash on defence. How terrible...

  • @Maxler5795
    @Maxler5795 7 місяців тому +8

    all of this deep and profund talk on the depth of how to counter it.
    and me in the corner just going VULCANINC VIPAH!

  • @crazykid1325
    @crazykid1325 7 місяців тому +16

    Also one thing of note, well the low and high technically are the same speed the first hit of the overhead whiffs on crouchers so it’s actually frame 16 not 14. I think the elphelt player can delay the low to make it a true 50/50. Also I might be wrong about all of this, new character and all. Even if I’m right a 2 frame difference is not gonna be easy to fuzzy.

    • @Hotashi
      @Hotashi  7 місяців тому +12

      didnt include this since its overwhelming

    • @crazykid1325
      @crazykid1325 7 місяців тому +3

      @@Hotashi fair

  • @thechaddestman2603
    @thechaddestman2603 7 місяців тому +5

    Haven't looked at strive for some time, but I actually came back just because of her. I forgot how detailed your videos are! Also, good music choice with Running Hell

  • @testhekid
    @testhekid 7 місяців тому +8

    hotashi is the type of person to prepare people against his own character so he can hit back with double

  • @Ashragi
    @Ashragi 7 місяців тому +8

    On most (all?) of the cast, first hit of the high will whiff meaning you can potentially consistently fuzzy block, it’s a 2 frame window for the switch though.
    Man this rekka is something else. I’m a pretty high level player and id like to think I’m good at adapting to situations, but it took 45 minutes of a random Elphelt looping the resets on me before I felt consistently able to defend.

  • @brupts7297
    @brupts7297 7 місяців тому +6

    The Noel Vermillion special

  • @CosmicRPG
    @CosmicRPG 7 місяців тому +7

    Initial view of Elphelt after day one, Hotashi

  • @akdrzllol1698
    @akdrzllol1698 7 місяців тому +9

    Thanks🤝🏾 I was learning how to play her but didn’t really figure out many ways to deal with her lmao

  • @puppydragongirl
    @puppydragongirl 7 місяців тому +19

    Local Man Beats Unbeatable Block String By Pressing The Punch Button (Part 20)

  • @hOFalt
    @hOFalt 7 місяців тому +100

    As someone who's interested in maining her it'd be nice to have a video about how she matches up in neutral against characters with different ranges. Basically her rough game plan against the different character archetypes

    • @GrEEnF1Re1
      @GrEEnF1Re1 7 місяців тому +10

      Bro you only spam that chian shit and win, there is no "How she matches with others" its the same for everyone

    • @devinnix9071
      @devinnix9071 7 місяців тому +113

      ​@GrEEnF1Re1 this person has been losing to elphelts lately

    • @Etikal
      @Etikal 7 місяців тому +10

      Her gameplan is to mash buttons without thinking like any character in strive

    • @jayblack5942
      @jayblack5942 7 місяців тому +27

      ​@@devinnix9071
      He's not entirely wrong tho.😂
      She's a rushdown character. Her "gameplan" is to rush people down. That's always her gameplan. If she isn't doing that, she's probably losing.

    • @Mightfox
      @Mightfox 7 місяців тому +14

      @@Etikal lol you remind me of myself ignorantly thinking other fgs were "mashing without thinking" when i was new to fgs. embarrassing, but youll learn eventually. strive neutral has thinking just like anything else does

  • @magicalgirl1296
    @magicalgirl1296 7 місяців тому +15

    Thanks for the tips Hotashi.
    Can we look forward to a full Elphelt guide once we know her better?

  • @fulltimeweeb
    @fulltimeweeb 7 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for the video Hotashi!! Really helpful

  • @doomkid360
    @doomkid360 7 місяців тому

    I really appreciate this format, hell ya thank you sir

  • @FB1_Destro
    @FB1_Destro 7 місяців тому +5

    great choice of music, love hearing cave story every now and then

  • @10001vader
    @10001vader 7 місяців тому +3

    Wasn't expecting Cave Story music on a Strive video, but I"m not complaining

  • @megoodatgame8535
    @megoodatgame8535 7 місяців тому +22

    Thanks for making this. This should be useful for both fighting Elphelt and playing her since I know the counter play and might be able to try countering the counter play

  • @joe476
    @joe476 7 місяців тому +2

    Great video! Got straight to the point and didn’t add anything unnecessary.

  • @MrShinTensei
    @MrShinTensei 7 місяців тому +1

    Visually breaking it down really helps. Thank you

  • @themonotonecommunist2458
    @themonotonecommunist2458 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for the banger guide Hotashi! Ngl I was struggling.

  • @tsunamiwave170
    @tsunamiwave170 7 місяців тому +5

    This is rally helpful as a pot player as a lot of my moves are not very fast. So knowing when i can interrupt moves is nice.

  • @Lonelyskydiver6
    @Lonelyskydiver6 5 місяців тому +1

    You're a legend for the cave story music

  • @pbyn153
    @pbyn153 7 місяців тому +7

    Hotashi, it is not even one week yet you are now releasing tips to destroy your main already? 😅 This is madness!

  • @ryanlally8116
    @ryanlally8116 6 місяців тому

    As an Elphelt main running into a lot of other Elphelts, this is going to make fighting them way more enjoyable! Thanks Hotashi!

  • @jpvlogph5935
    @jpvlogph5935 4 місяці тому +1

    Nice guide! Didn't know she was a knowledge check character. Thank you!. And damn, I completely forgot deflect shield! Thank you for joggling my brain a little LMAO.

    • @caseysafatkid
      @caseysafatkid 14 днів тому

      Every character is a knowledge check character

  • @leeboleebo
    @leeboleebo 7 місяців тому +7

    At 0:39, I think the gaps in c.S > 214S and 2H > 214S are 4 frames, so they lose to Sol 5K and trade with Sol 5P. 5H > 214S and 6H > 214S both counterhit Sol 5k though

  • @Glandulf19
    @Glandulf19 7 місяців тому +9

    I was sure, of all the best GG creators out there, you would be the one to put this out. Thx for the tips ❤

  • @MakaveliMarsMusic
    @MakaveliMarsMusic 6 місяців тому +3

    Lol got on Strive for the first time in a while and dealt with this and was so discouraged lol thank you 😂😂

    • @ameirgrant6116
      @ameirgrant6116 6 місяців тому +2

      Haven’t played in a year+ and this move was cooking me

  • @throwaway1066
    @throwaway1066 7 місяців тому +15

    Worth noting that rekka 1 is always backdashable. Harder to pull of with characters that have short backdashes (may, millia) but they get the most reward since they can mash to beat all followups after backdashing. Standard backdash characters can throw P or K followups, but need to mash on S.

  • @FeriasTerras
    @FeriasTerras 7 місяців тому +1

    Appreciating the Cave Story jams. ♥

  • @exowodia68
    @exowodia68 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video ! Would be amazing to have a guide about her projectile setups.

  • @ZombHarris
    @ZombHarris 6 місяців тому

    as an elphelt main thank you for the guide on how to get better at the character

  • @JinhC
    @JinhC 7 місяців тому +1

    ty for the guide! love the cave story music btw

  • @RenatoFontes
    @RenatoFontes 7 місяців тому +1

    Love the music selection, Cave Story FTW

  • @nunyabiznes7446
    @nunyabiznes7446 5 місяців тому +3

    literally just came here from getting my ass beat three times in a row as Nago, how did this guy get a recording of my match to start the video game with?

  • @Arkeyviste
    @Arkeyviste 7 місяців тому +2

    If you crouch block 214S, the first overhead leaves a gap for DP... I wasn't used to taking too much notice of the crouching in gap blockstings, she is less braindead than expected

  • @kllcmd8980
    @kllcmd8980 7 місяців тому +1

    thank you for this. having way too many elphelts as opponents who just spam miss charlotte or chain lollipop when they get low on health, it's infuriating

  • @jamesfisher3885
    @jamesfisher3885 7 місяців тому

    I literally just bought GG Strive bc it was on sale and i'm only facing Elphelts and being destroyed by spamming this so this guide is very much helpful

  • @hollystardust
    @hollystardust 7 місяців тому

    great video and great choice on the cave story music c:

  • @violencejones5707
    @violencejones5707 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for this!! I can use all the help I can get for sure haha

  • @user-pn7wq9cl1g
    @user-pn7wq9cl1g 3 місяці тому +1

    As a fledgling Asuka player, I sometimes felt like my brain can't breathe into her.
    The knockdown war is brutal; if Asuka wins he gets to play again the minute his pressure wanes, if Elphelt wins on the other hand...
    *oh god I'm in the blender and this time she put on the lid*
    This video helped me tremendously, especially with her Oki setup which usually lets her get into her second pass of the Rekka very safely.

  • @Joe-xx2ri
    @Joe-xx2ri 7 місяців тому

    ty hotashi. the ol reliable

  • @marioisawsom
    @marioisawsom 7 місяців тому +1

    Great music choice

  • @vagabondjp
    @vagabondjp 7 місяців тому

    Great video, thanks for the upload

  • @heyitsmort7744
    @heyitsmort7744 7 місяців тому +3

    Love the Cave Story music :)

  • @Mechenai
    @Mechenai 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the tips, if there is anything i could be doing to make my chances better when beating 214H as okizeme with its mix-ups, that'd be a great help too.

  • @eastcoasttone3952
    @eastcoasttone3952 7 місяців тому +1

    You’re a real one for this

  • @safariisavagegaming
    @safariisavagegaming 7 місяців тому

    im glad im not the only person who thought lollipop chainsaw when they did her breakdown

  • @shl6367
    @shl6367 7 місяців тому +1

    My man playing the long game making sure elphelt isn’t up played

  • @erikkublack4523
    @erikkublack4523 7 місяців тому

    Thanks, Hotashi. 🙏

  • @AAlnaggar002
    @AAlnaggar002 7 місяців тому +2

    Instructions unclear, stuck playing Cave Story

  • @_dh0ull_
    @_dh0ull_ 7 місяців тому +1

    Holy shit, it's been some time since I've heard anything from Cave Story

  • @jonathonlasagna9168
    @jonathonlasagna9168 7 місяців тому +3

    I must defeat the white woman tricknology

  • @jettmanas
    @jettmanas 3 місяці тому

    Good info. Thanks. I heard P can help, though I can't always react after it's started.
    And use whatever I have to get out. FD, YRC, burst, & will remember B.Shield.

  • @OccuredJakub12
    @OccuredJakub12 7 місяців тому +13

    As an Axl main who bought the game on the patch day 1 and had to deal with an army of Elphelts...
    Your best bet is just NOT TO LET ELPH GET IN.
    I found great use with the new tornado move for cancelling out hee fireballs quickly and when I have the chance to set up the charged version, I can approach more comfortably, use Rensen, 2H or any other moves and if she gets caught blocking in it I can do left-right mixups or get more distance and reset the situation. Can't let her just run in of course, but for Rekkas I just use FD, RS, even Burst or I can save the meter use his reversal super since she can't block when doing them.
    Fighting Elph really helped me get the fundamentals of Axl's zoning game down.

    • @MrShinTensei
      @MrShinTensei 7 місяців тому +3

      Bro right? I started yesterday also with axl. Also played some potemkin. I'm gonna have to start using that tornado move. I haven't been using it.

    • @velvetdraws3452
      @velvetdraws3452 3 місяці тому +1

      also dont forget whisteling wind (214K), amazing if an enemy loves airdashing in

  • @nkirmath8621
    @nkirmath8621 7 місяців тому +2

    This is useful as someone looking to learn elphelt and as someone scared of blocking *that*. Btw would you be willing to show off setups for the command grab?

  • @BudewFan_
    @BudewFan_ 3 місяці тому +1

    This guide is great and all (like genuinely so helpful) but for any sol players watching you ain’t gotta learn all this shit just hit 5k when you see the flip (hold it after 2h tho then 5k the next flip) remember, never block always hit buttons

  • @nonmagicalwitch
    @nonmagicalwitch 7 місяців тому +1

    I am not getting robbed by chain lollipop, I am robbing with chain lollipop.

  • @noodlegumm_
    @noodlegumm_ 7 місяців тому +2

    cavestory posting

  • @blummie1215
    @blummie1215 7 місяців тому

    that Lollipop chainsaw remake is lookin crazy

  • @skiks3562
    @skiks3562 7 місяців тому +30

    Thanks for making this. I was wondering how the hell you are supposed to get out of that pressure, and this does help a lot.
    Also, it just dawned on me how much scarier she would have been if they hadn't removed counter-hit-slow on rekkas.

  • @AdamJorgensen
    @AdamJorgensen 7 місяців тому +1

    That idle animation XD

  • @blackstar-genX
    @blackstar-genX 7 місяців тому

    Thx mate. This a good video for a friend if mine that learning her. I'm very bad at explaining fighting game mobo even if I'm god at strive.

  • @regal677
    @regal677 2 місяці тому +1

    Fellow cave story appreciator

  • @nurglesfavorite1094
    @nurglesfavorite1094 5 місяців тому +1

    I like the fact that rekka means truck in Finnish

  • @solarsloan
    @solarsloan 7 місяців тому +1

    Did anyone else catch “Lollipop Chainsaw” or are we just calling it that now?

  • @slycwby2478
    @slycwby2478 7 місяців тому +136

    As an Anji player, I looked at chain lollipop once and learned how to beat the move, it’s such a simple idea
    And it made me realize that if Anji’s mix was slightly better he’d beat half the game’s population
    And I’m gonna go think about that now and maybe cry

    • @aatreus0192
      @aatreus0192 7 місяців тому +14

      It's okay we will eat good this patch

    • @kaleidoslug7777
      @kaleidoslug7777 7 місяців тому +29

      The boy will never not be a low tier cause if he weren't, everyone would hate our guts lmao. Like imagine if a character with a move as bullshot as Fish were top 5, we would be executed on sight

    • @thedanish5523
      @thedanish5523 7 місяців тому +11

      The nagiha buff is extremely good. Learn your meterless combos after a nagiha hit and you'll be in a really good place

    • @slycwby2478
      @slycwby2478 7 місяців тому +5

      @@kaleidoslug7777 You are right, that fish makes me pretty damn happy every time I use
      My life peaks every time I hit someone with fish, guard break or knockdown

    • @slycwby2478
      @slycwby2478 7 місяців тому

      @@thedanish5523 ill have to see, sadly pretty busy yesterday and today with work stuff lol
      Tomorrow though I’ll check it out

  • @steffanhymer1285
    @steffanhymer1285 7 місяців тому +1

    All of these really tight frame gaps just scream Baiken Parry to me.

  • @Aidan174
    @Aidan174 Місяць тому +1

    Cave story music goes hard

  • @hutiadude6781
    @hutiadude6781 7 місяців тому +1

    We all know this video is for elphelt mirror matches because we’re just mashing buttons

  • @RandomPerson28337
    @RandomPerson28337 7 місяців тому +1

    Good ole dp nothing beats that.

  • @ToffeeBun
    @ToffeeBun 7 місяців тому +1

    Cave Story music :]
    Thank you for video

  • @feryparera6748
    @feryparera6748 7 місяців тому +4

    Milia can just mirazh the starter/resetter move, I have been abusing this

    • @freshboy3968
      @freshboy3968 7 місяців тому +1

      There are people still playing Millia? That's pretty cool.

  • @Scopida
    @Scopida 7 місяців тому +5

    You can actually 6P her 2H into rekka

  • @14daycooldown
    @14daycooldown 7 місяців тому +2

    "just 5p it bro" rams and baikens 5p literally dont connect due to not reaching lmao

  • @KenjiAsakura09
    @KenjiAsakura09 7 місяців тому +1

    Based Hotashi

  • @xcreenplay7264
    @xcreenplay7264 7 місяців тому +1

    As a axl main my MU against Elp is even but this those rekkkas mix up are brutal 😂

  • @shenlong3944
    @shenlong3944 7 місяців тому +3

    punch

  • @tylercafe1260
    @tylercafe1260 7 місяців тому

    Ngl I laughed when I saw the subconscious typo of "Lolipop Chainsaw" lmao

  • @Nukesnipe
    @Nukesnipe 7 місяців тому +1

    Today, Nagoriyuki and Elphelt show us what domestic abuse looks like

  • @Chaosdude341
    @Chaosdude341 7 місяців тому

    You're a saint

  • @Aeirion
    @Aeirion 7 місяців тому +1

    So essentially, anytime she tries to keep the pressure going, hold it until she tries to actually mix you. Once she tries to mix you, punish it.

  • @jaywalmoose9623
    @jaywalmoose9623 7 місяців тому +1

    THANK
    YOU

  • @randymandy1351
    @randymandy1351 7 місяців тому +1

    hotashí have you considered making tutorials on notepad with dubstep in the background

  • @ZevTheWolfe
    @ZevTheWolfe 6 місяців тому +1

    Wait am I dumb and missed it- how do you counter if she just spams the startup S for it? Isn't it -2 on block which isn't enough for punish, and you have to wait for a rekka followup, or did I misread?

  • @JupitersWindySkies
    @JupitersWindySkies 7 місяців тому

    Cave Story music? hell yeah, dope af

  • @ShadeVial
    @ShadeVial 7 місяців тому

    Thanks, you saved me 7 dollars to be able to be able to lab this stuff lol

  • @saetzero_the_moon_king
    @saetzero_the_moon_king 7 місяців тому +1

    Cave story ost. Great choice yisss🎉

  • @Abigflamingstink
    @Abigflamingstink 7 місяців тому

    >Running Hell music
    Neuron activation

  • @Storse
    @Storse 7 місяців тому +2

    As a baiken player none of that shit is gapless so i just parry on reaction till they start leaving gaps to bait. Then i grab em and they die.

  • @ammi5311
    @ammi5311 7 місяців тому +1

    Pretty sure she can S you into corner , as it resets on roll pickup hits .
    Also Axel get to pretty much sit