My daughter and I have been playing fallout 4 for a few months now... We've finished the quests (main) and she's very much into the building and settlement parts of the game... Every now and then she's got a build question and I send her to your site... She was playing on Friday and had a question about stairs that are high... I heard her say to herself... How would dokaviin do it and off she went to your channel... Thank you for your advice and inspiration... Keep up the great work...
@Jarod Sahni No, no one gives a shit; why are you spamming some wholesome comments to a content producer about someone playing a game with their daughter with your juvenile instagram adventures, you stupid self-impressed foetus.
I like the tower. Cool, but as you said, it consumes a lot of wood. One thing I've done that you didn't show in this video is to build something like your first one that breaks all the laws of physics, just using basic stairs and floors, but then supporting the floor parts with the wooden posts from the Far Harbor expansion. In the build menu, go to Structures/Barns/Miscellaneous and the posts are the first two options. They clip onto the sides of the floor pieces, including any ladder/floor combo, and they clip to each other all the way down. Build the stairs in a spiral, and the supports for a first floor landing can continue upward and support another landing directly above it. I use these posts for all kinds of supports for floors and balconies and other raised platforms. It looks great when it's finished, too.
It has been a l9ng time since I did this. Personally I prefer the switchback stairs over spiral as it is more realistic to how tall buildings normally do it. A normal foundation is a 2x2 (obviously), 1. I'll set a 1x2 (half) down and attach a stair to the right side. 2. Then I'll attach a second 1x2 to the top of the first stair and a wall opposite side of the 2nd floor stair. 3. Opposite the first stair I add another on the 2nd floor that goes to the 3rd floor then attach another 1x2 with a 2nd wall opposite the stair like before. Yes right now everything looks like it is just hanging in air. 4. Now I fill in the 2 walls I added down until they reach the ground, also up as high as I can to the top. This only leaves the stair side open. 5. Now I fill in the 2 opposite stair outside walls up as far as I can from the ground. Now all 4 outside walls are covered and only the center is open between the 2 stairs. You just fill in landings each level you go up at this point until you reach the top. You end up with a 2x4 wide tower this way instead of your 4x4 tower. This let's you make the same stairway with half as much resources. I would use the same all for the ends (say a glass wall) and a different one for the sides (say wooden wall or metal). This gives the appearance of 2 structural walls to support itself and 2 walls that let light in.
Thanks for making this episode! I am playing on a PS4, base game only, without mods, so all your builds have been instructive. I already came up with a version of the concrete block tower at Finch Farm, but it was integrated into a fully enclosed fortification around the Settlement. I didn't have to start from scratch on the ground. Because of limited resources, I build and add on as I can. I just upgraded Graygarden into a fortress, but instead of a tower up to the overpass, I only made a two ladder stair from the overpass first level to the second. It wraps nicely around the overpass support column (which is also integrated into my walls below). I've made a few videos of my Settlements and I'll put up a Graygarden tour soon. Thanks again!
Nice design! It gave me a lot to consider for my build on Finch farm. As for resources, I found that once I got the scrapper perk (lvl 2) I would periodically go clear out the Corvega car factory and the pit mine near Bedford Station, collect all the weapons, then break them all down. This usually netted me several hundred wood and metal. I tried using one of the braces for the overhead highway, wrapping a pair of single stair cases at a time around it, but it always looked too 'forced' when it came to the top. Time for me to go build my condo at the farm...cheers.
I built mine from the top, that way i managed to get a walkway over the barrier at the top, i also used the prefab part with no walls so it had support inside, i also made my own stairs, i don't like the ones that have floors fixed to them, you cant fit a barrier around the gap at the top to stop you falling down ( you can fit some but not all the way round the 3 open sides )
In Graygarden I used the scaffolding and started from the the bottom lane downwards to the ground floor. In the middle I used the big scaffolding with floors and on the outside for the staircase I used the small scaffolds with the smaller floors and scaffolding stairs. As I mentioned, I started from the top with a little plattform and worked my way down with the stairs and the small floors. Then I added the small scaffolds and last but not least I added the central tower. By adding floors to the center I could build small rooms that could be accessed from the rectangular scaffolding floors I added on two sides of the tower. And I also found out, that I could use the scaffolding like a double helix, so another set of floors and stairs led to the second floor of my central tower. It was really fun way to explore the possibilities of the scaffolding, because I ended up with a stair tower that I never had in mind when I started building. 🙂 Later I added an elevator tower with warehouse walls up to the top lane of the overpass. and because the first elevator stopped right beneath the bottom lane of the overpass, I added a „hanging“ warehouse and made a support structure out of industrial frames between the two pillars from the overpass, so it looks like there is some thing to support the „hanging“ warehouse. So with the two levels of the overpass I ended up with a total of five levels for this overpass.
I built my main character's base on the Graygarden overpass, and I built my staircase wrapping around the leg of the overpass. If you have extra resources you could even connect wire conduits from the staircase to the side of the overpass leg to make them look like support cables.
I forgot you could build up or build on the Finch Farm. I once put a massive Turrent gun nest up there to protect over the wall I made for the farm. It was also good for my house that NPCs couldn't touch since they look to nose into your stuff.
Late, but two more tips. 1) When building up to be on top of something like this, or like the roof of the Red Rocket. Build from the top down. This ensures you get it in the right place at it's high point. 2) Use the stairs with the platforms attached to them. Settlers seem to be confused by the regular long stairs. They will, instead, go to where a door is, even though that door is several levels above them.
So much space in the last one you did. You'd probably not need any other buildings! Maybe a merchant area down the bottom. Using DLC you can put your farm and water up the top, stick a bunker hill caravan down by the entrance and completely lock the settlers in so they don't do dumb shit when getting attacked.
I built mine using concrete but I used curved walls to avoid that boxy look. Basically have a set of concrete stairs then attach the curved floor piece to the top then another to that one so you double back on your stairs. You'll need to attach the walls after the first stairs and just build up. You can leave the straight section open or fill with your wall of choice.
The third idea sense it's like a block flowy style you make it into like little apartment rooms or something each floor on the sides or comeing out from the sides just to make meny rooms for settlers
1 var I used before the first DLC came out, and i did not know that 3 variant. But now we have all this concrete floor and super-save ladders with rails, so i think those wood ladders is a kind of obsolete. Also, i'm personally starting to build this part of Finch farm from above, it allows to connect the stairs to the bridge more accurate way.
i would build my tower around the highway stone support to make it look supported and i never thought about using those first two ways to build it up great ideas thanks i hope my settlment looks great with your amazing idea.............. realy kicking myself for not thinking of it myself after spending nearly 10 hours building settlements XD
The plywood walls are what keeps other walls from snapping in the corners. I'm sure you know this by now but maybe someone doesn't. I like the tower. I'll have to try that next time I play. 👍
hm, I use wood shack foundations, except i start building a central tower and then warp a staircase around lateron, it does not really snap to the foundations (except at the very top) but it looks quite good imo - requires a bit of fiddling around though - moving the shack foudnations until the stairs fit in around them - like that the shack foundations do not float, once i also put fence posts below the shack foundation wood to avoid the floating look edit: and finally i add a windmill generator at the very top - but I havnt used that technique yet to get up that high - it was mostly for guard towers, also you can snap some wood fences to the shack foundations in the middle, like this it looks a bit more supported
Nice. But I'm looking for a scaffold build. I guess it would be the same principle as 1 & 2. Build the central column and then add the stairs around the outside.
I first build a stair up to the top of the over pass then go to the end and work downward using the small scaffolding sections. it seems rickety but that's how it's supposed to look right? you can even place a floor section from the barn or whorehouse.
The reason some of the corner pieces wont snap is because you used the thick wooden wall on the other side if the corner. Just place that one last and you'll have no more problema with it. :)
My staircases there look terrible and absolutely unrealistic. Now that I've finished the main quest line in my first play through I'm definitely going to go back and make a tower apartment building :D.
Thank You, for the very helpful tutorial on staircases. I also learned a couple of other tricks by watching this video, and I didn't have to listen to all the nonsense you hear on some of these other tutorials. Once again thank you. P.S. Sorry I am not able to subscribe to your channel on this computer, but I will continue to watch your series.
The annoying thing is... there's a crane in the junkyard just behind Finch Farm which the Gunners converted into being a makeshift drawbridge by putting planking on it, but there's no way to lower it.
Nice vid thanks! Have you tried using the concrete blocks as a foundation for structures? I'm no expert, but apparently you can shove them into the ground leaving only the top as a nice flat surface to put your structures on :)
Oh man yeah, i too can't stand freestanding staircases that simply hang in the air like they weight nothing. Really annoying and it really kills the immersion. Sometimes i wish the build space for Settlements was a little bigger so it would be possible to add more realism details and not keeping it too simple because otherwise it will tell you that you cannot place any more objects anymore. On the PC there's at least a mod that expands it but that comes with a warning because it may sometimes cause some weird bugs.
Drop a "MOD" on the ground then pick it up again. It will give you more build space. Gun mods tend to add a lot vs other items you can use. It has to do with the number of graphic vectors needed to display them. Yes, too much expansion does make it glitchy (loss frame rates). It has to do with the draw speed and graphic processor memory constraints.
Nope, I don't usually build giant structures. This tower was the largest one I'd built, actually. I just have a lot of smaller ones in a lot of settlements, and it had been a while since I'd bought some shipments. I run out of wood all the time.
+Wasteland Dovahkiin the amount of wood I get from scrapping trees & brush on settlements has me super stocked. I do however run outta metal, concrete, ceramic, gears & screws all the freaking time.
You'll eventually get to the point where you've scrapped everything in all the settlements, and you'll eventually have to buy supplies, at least you will if you build a lot of stuff and use it up.
Do settlers actually use the stairways to get on top? It´s a very long way and I could imagine, that the AI has trouble to compute the path for the settlers.
This was just a basic build to show you the concept. If I had been building this in my main save, I would have made it less plain. But yeah, just a quickie to show the idea.
I hate the fact that the wood foundations legs "float" when you stack them. Otherwise I would use them all the time. The concrete ones are just ugly and does´nt look lore friendly at all.
You are like my dream girl a gamer girl lol all the women I know hate games and I love all of your ideas. I turned yours in to a defence tower works perfectly 😀
My daughter and I have been playing fallout 4 for a few months now... We've finished the quests (main) and she's very much into the building and settlement parts of the game... Every now and then she's got a build question and I send her to your site... She was playing on Friday and had a question about stairs that are high... I heard her say to herself... How would dokaviin do it and off she went to your channel... Thank you for your advice and inspiration... Keep up the great work...
My daughter and I have been playing fallout 4 for a few months now... We've finished the quests (main) and she's very much into the building and settlement parts of the game... Every now and then she's got a build question and I send her to your site... She was playing on Friday and had a question about stairs that are high... I heard her say to herself... How would dokaviin do it and off she went to your channel... Thank you for your advice and inspiration... Keep up the great work...
Oh that's so nice! I'm happy to be a help to your daughter. Tell her thank you for watching my videos! :)
@Jarod Sahni No, no one gives a shit; why are you spamming some wholesome comments to a content producer about someone playing a game with their daughter with your juvenile instagram adventures, you stupid self-impressed foetus.
@@Oscuros *no one gives a shit :)
@@Oscuros "stupid self-impressed foetus"... I am very much yoinking that.
I like the tower. Cool, but as you said, it consumes a lot of wood. One thing I've done that you didn't show in this video is to build something like your first one that breaks all the laws of physics, just using basic stairs and floors, but then supporting the floor parts with the wooden posts from the Far Harbor expansion. In the build menu, go to Structures/Barns/Miscellaneous and the posts are the first two options. They clip onto the sides of the floor pieces, including any ladder/floor combo, and they clip to each other all the way down. Build the stairs in a spiral, and the supports for a first floor landing can continue upward and support another landing directly above it. I use these posts for all kinds of supports for floors and balconies and other raised platforms. It looks great when it's finished, too.
It has been a l9ng time since I did this. Personally I prefer the switchback stairs over spiral as it is more realistic to how tall buildings normally do it.
A normal foundation is a 2x2 (obviously),
1. I'll set a 1x2 (half) down and attach a stair to the right side.
2. Then I'll attach a second 1x2 to the top of the first stair and a wall opposite side of the 2nd floor stair.
3. Opposite the first stair I add another on the 2nd floor that goes to the 3rd floor then attach another 1x2 with a 2nd wall opposite the stair like before. Yes right now everything looks like it is just hanging in air.
4. Now I fill in the 2 walls I added down until they reach the ground, also up as high as I can to the top. This only leaves the stair side open.
5. Now I fill in the 2 opposite stair outside walls up as far as I can from the ground. Now all 4 outside walls are covered and only the center is open between the 2 stairs.
You just fill in landings each level you go up at this point until you reach the top. You end up with a 2x4 wide tower this way instead of your 4x4 tower. This let's you make the same stairway with half as much resources.
I would use the same all for the ends (say a glass wall) and a different one for the sides (say wooden wall or metal). This gives the appearance of 2 structural walls to support itself and 2 walls that let light in.
Thanks for making this episode! I am playing on a PS4, base game only, without mods, so all your builds have been instructive. I already came up with a version of the concrete block tower at Finch Farm, but it was integrated into a fully enclosed fortification around the Settlement. I didn't have to start from scratch on the ground. Because of limited resources, I build and add on as I can. I just upgraded Graygarden into a fortress, but instead of a tower up to the overpass, I only made a two ladder stair from the overpass first level to the second. It wraps nicely around the overpass support column (which is also integrated into my walls below). I've made a few videos of my Settlements and I'll put up a Graygarden tour soon. Thanks again!
I spiralled a proper set of scaffolding stairs around the concrete column, but for fun threaded it through that hole in the top..
Nice design! It gave me a lot to consider for my build on Finch farm. As for resources, I found that once I got the scrapper perk (lvl 2) I would periodically go clear out the Corvega car factory and the pit mine near Bedford Station, collect all the weapons, then break them all down. This usually netted me several hundred wood and metal.
I tried using one of the braces for the overhead highway, wrapping a pair of single stair cases at a time around it, but it always looked too 'forced' when it came to the top. Time for me to go build my condo at the farm...cheers.
I built mine from the top, that way i managed to get a walkway over the barrier at the top, i also used the prefab part with no walls so it had support inside, i also made my own stairs, i don't like the ones that have floors fixed to them, you cant fit a barrier around the gap at the top to stop you falling down ( you can fit some but not all the way round the 3 open sides )
In Graygarden I used the scaffolding and started from the the bottom lane downwards to the ground floor. In the middle I used the big scaffolding with floors and on the outside for the staircase I used the small scaffolds with the smaller floors and scaffolding stairs. As I mentioned, I started from the top with a little plattform and worked my way down with the stairs and the small floors. Then I added the small scaffolds and last but not least I added the central tower. By adding floors to the center I could build small rooms that could be accessed from the rectangular scaffolding floors I added on two sides of the tower. And I also found out, that I could use the scaffolding like a double helix, so another set of floors and stairs led to the second floor of my central tower. It was really fun way to explore the possibilities of the scaffolding, because I ended up with a stair tower that I never had in mind when I started building. 🙂
Later I added an elevator tower with warehouse walls up to the top lane of the overpass. and because the first elevator stopped right beneath the bottom lane of the overpass, I added a „hanging“ warehouse and made a support structure out of industrial frames between the two pillars from the overpass, so it looks like there is some thing to support the „hanging“ warehouse. So with the two levels of the overpass I ended up with a total of five levels for this overpass.
I built my main character's base on the Graygarden overpass, and I built my staircase wrapping around the leg of the overpass. If you have extra resources you could even connect wire conduits from the staircase to the side of the overpass leg to make them look like support cables.
Oh, cool idea!
Thanks. This is a great tutorial. Looks much better than seeing the stairs attached in a straight line all over UA-cam.
I forgot you could build up or build on the Finch Farm. I once put a massive Turrent gun nest up there to protect over the wall I made for the farm. It was also good for my house that NPCs couldn't touch since they look to nose into your stuff.
That’s where the scaffolding pack comes in really handy imo
Late, but two more tips.
1) When building up to be on top of something like this, or like the roof of the Red Rocket. Build from the top down. This ensures you get it in the right place at it's high point.
2) Use the stairs with the platforms attached to them. Settlers seem to be confused by the regular long stairs. They will, instead, go to where a door is, even though that door is several levels above them.
So much space in the last one you did. You'd probably not need any other buildings! Maybe a merchant area down the bottom.
Using DLC you can put your farm and water up the top, stick a bunker hill caravan down by the entrance and completely lock the settlers in so they don't do dumb shit when getting attacked.
I built mine using concrete but I used curved walls to avoid that boxy look. Basically have a set of concrete stairs then attach the curved floor piece to the top then another to that one so you double back on your stairs. You'll need to attach the walls after the first stairs and just build up. You can leave the straight section open or fill with your wall of choice.
I like the last tower, you could have shops on the overpass, a bar on the top balcony area and use the tower for beds etc
The third idea sense it's like a block flowy style you make it into like little apartment rooms or something each floor on the sides or comeing out from the sides just to make meny rooms for settlers
1 var I used before the first DLC came out, and i did not know that 3 variant. But now we have all this concrete floor and super-save ladders with rails, so i think those wood ladders is a kind of obsolete.
Also, i'm personally starting to build this part of Finch farm from above, it allows to connect the stairs to the bridge more accurate way.
Another simple staircase uses the Scaffolding that has stairs in it. They connect a top each other letting you build as high as the game allows.
i would build my tower around the highway stone support to make it look supported and i never thought about using those first two ways to build it up great ideas thanks i hope my settlment looks great with your amazing idea.............. realy kicking myself for not thinking of it myself after spending nearly 10 hours building settlements XD
The plywood walls are what keeps other walls from snapping in the corners. I'm sure you know this by now but maybe someone doesn't. I like the tower. I'll have to try that next time I play. 👍
hm, I use wood shack foundations, except i start building a central tower and then warp a staircase around lateron, it does not really snap to the foundations (except at the very top) but it looks quite good imo - requires a bit of fiddling around though - moving the shack foudnations until the stairs fit in around them - like that the shack foundations do not float, once i also put fence posts below the shack foundation wood to avoid the floating look
edit: and finally i add a windmill generator at the very top - but I havnt used that technique yet to get up that high - it was mostly for guard towers, also you can snap some wood fences to the shack foundations in the middle, like this it looks a bit more supported
Nice. But I'm looking for a scaffold build. I guess it would be the same principle as 1 & 2. Build the central column and then add the stairs around the outside.
Nice one staircase! But can you make another one but with elevators from Westland Workshop DLC?
at gray garden built a three story building and only needed one set of stairs from the roof
to the first level of the overpass
Beautiful! im gonna make a spiral staircase next time I play. thank you!
Scavver Towers! Love it.
I first build a stair up to the top of the over pass then go to the end and work downward using the small scaffolding sections. it seems rickety but that's how it's supposed to look right? you can even place a floor section from the barn or whorehouse.
Omg thank u so much I did not know how to d that but now I'm building a huge thing and every floor is a shop
Great job im learning 👍
The reason some of the corner pieces wont snap is because you used the thick wooden wall on the other side if the corner. Just place that one last and you'll have no more problema with it. :)
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My staircases there look terrible and absolutely unrealistic. Now that I've finished the main quest line in my first play through I'm definitely going to go back and make a tower apartment building :D.
Wow this helped a lot😁 thanks
Thank You, for the very helpful tutorial on staircases. I also learned a couple of other tricks by watching this video, and I didn't have to listen to all the nonsense you hear on some of these other tutorials. Once again thank you. P.S. Sorry I am not able to subscribe to your channel on this computer, but I will continue to watch your series.
Thank you! :)
The annoying thing is... there's a crane in the junkyard just behind Finch Farm which the Gunners converted into being a makeshift drawbridge by putting planking on it, but there's no way to lower it.
Yes there is. In the shack in the middle of the junkyard is a computer terminal that raises and lowers it. Another terminal on top.
darn it.phil beat me to answering.
Love it thank you . I had so many ideas and I never got it the way I wanted this helped
Nice vid thanks!
Have you tried using the concrete blocks as a foundation for structures? I'm no expert, but apparently you can shove them into the ground leaving only the top as a nice flat surface to put your structures on :)
Yes, that's what they were designed to do, but they can be used for a lot of other things too, like walls and towers.
Oh man yeah, i too can't stand freestanding staircases that simply hang in the air like they weight nothing. Really annoying and it really kills the immersion. Sometimes i wish the build space for Settlements was a little bigger so it would be possible to add more realism details and not keeping it too simple because otherwise it will tell you that you cannot place any more objects anymore. On the PC there's at least a mod that expands it but that comes with a warning because it may sometimes cause some weird bugs.
Drop a "MOD" on the ground then pick it up again. It will give you more build space. Gun mods tend to add a lot vs other items you can use. It has to do with the number of graphic vectors needed to display them.
Yes, too much expansion does make it glitchy (loss frame rates). It has to do with the draw speed and graphic processor memory constraints.
great one
Geez why didn't they add ladders. This is awesome, though! Thanks for all the tips.
I've ran outta every material used to build except wood. You must have some giant wood structures to be running out.
Nope, I don't usually build giant structures. This tower was the largest one I'd built, actually. I just have a lot of smaller ones in a lot of settlements, and it had been a while since I'd bought some shipments. I run out of wood all the time.
+Wasteland Dovahkiin the amount of wood I get from scrapping trees & brush on settlements has me super stocked. I do however run outta metal, concrete, ceramic, gears & screws all the freaking time.
You'll eventually get to the point where you've scrapped everything in all the settlements, and you'll eventually have to buy supplies, at least you will if you build a lot of stuff and use it up.
Funny how a big tree gives 15 wood, but a scavved item like a wooden spoon or some toy gives you 1.
awesome I thought the 2nd staircase looked great
THANK YOU!!
Do settlers actually use the stairways to get on top? It´s a very long way and I could imagine, that the AI has trouble to compute the path for the settlers.
Dope
windows or some Sky lights would have been great!
This was just a basic build to show you the concept. If I had been building this in my main save, I would have made it less plain. But yeah, just a quickie to show the idea.
Either way looks great and for sure a good concept !
Dupe ur materials its a glitch u gotta hit square n circle right after each other ull get both the scrap and store menu
Needs lighting, inside and out...
Sorry... Dovahkiin...
nice job I will be useing your large tower than is much better looking then my rickety mess lol
Anyone catch that she said" barbeque dick" at 11:47?
It is too bad you don't have this on PC you would love the types of mods they have.
I was freaking,stuck on a lower half bridge by gray garden their is a power suit on the othe side by a crashed veryibitd.
How do you get past the building limit?
I've got a video that shows you how. ua-cam.com/video/YW1vdY4JYJc/v-deo.html
I hate the fact that the wood foundations legs "float" when you stack them. Otherwise I would use them all the time. The concrete ones are just ugly and does´nt look lore friendly at all.
Use the prefabs instead. No floating, looks supported, and lore friendly. :)
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It's too late lol I wish I found this video earlier lol u should see my stairs lol hahaha lol 😋
Nice one but I always choode THE SAME TYPE OF WALLS for my buildings haha I think that is the RIGHT way to do it..! lol
choose
Lol it doesn't have pillars
You are like my dream girl a gamer girl lol all the women I know hate games and I love all of your ideas. I turned yours in to a defence tower works perfectly 😀
think people need to rethink there titles to there videos you say best hardly
My daughter and I have been playing fallout 4 for a few months now... We've finished the quests (main) and she's very much into the building and settlement parts of the game... Every now and then she's got a build question and I send her to your site... She was playing on Friday and had a question about stairs that are high... I heard her say to herself... How would dokaviin do it and off she went to your channel... Thank you for your advice and inspiration... Keep up the great work...