How Gundam Thunderbolt turns Music into a Weapon
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
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One thing the Gundam franchise has established itself with is a commentary on war that persists in almost every entry. Some do this well, others absolutely terribly, but not often is a sense of desperation and nihilism conveyed musically. Usually in Gundam shows music serves as a light at the end of the tunnel or the hope the characters are fighting for. However the Thunderbolt staff saw things differently, and in their adaptation of Yaso Ohtagaki’s manga, they took the opportunity to make something of a statement with their use of music. I’m personally not a fan of free jazz at all, I don’t go out of my way to listen to it, or really any noise-centric music for that matter. Might have something to do that all the jazz performers I met at school and uni were obnoxious as all hell. But personal experiences aside it’s impossible to deny how effective it is for this series, which highlights the importance of understanding musical concepts and how they fit within narratives like these.
Music by Naruyoshi Kikuchi:
Thunderbolt Main Theme-yo
Sentochu (Gekisen Jyotai)-yo
Sento Kaishi-yo
Shutsugeki-yo
White Day in the Blue
Scar
Sento Haishi-yo
Oh God, I’m Alone
The Dreaming Girl in Me
I’m 60
SE 1 1950-nendai Giji (Full Acoustic)
SE 2 2050-nendai Giji (Full Electric)
Ronald Reagan Other Side
Additional Music:
Pace Pace Mio Dio - Giuseppe Verdi
Additional footage:
Mobile Suit Gundam
All That Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam: Char’s Counterattack
Turn A Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED
Mobile Suit Gundam 00
Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn
Gundam Build Fighters Try
Lupin III - The Woman Called Fujiko Mine
Trigun
In This Corner of the World
Written, narrated and edited by Abhi
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The points raised about free jazz in this video are in no way indicative of any and all free jazz in any context. Traits such as atonality, polytempo and polyrhythms are in no way restricted to this kind of music and can be found in many other performance/compositional practices. I moreso wanted to make this video to see how THIS series/compilation film in particular chose to contextualize these elements but I’m not really sure that came across in the final product. Then again I am a (former) classically trained musician so I guess most of this free jazz stuff is inherently “weird” to me anyway lol
The Cartoon Cipher The Jazz give it a Cowboy Bebop feel at some point
Do you know or recommend any free jazz or pop ballet similar to Thunderbolt's soundtrack?
I think you're misreading how Io is being presented in Thunderbolt. From his character design (sharp and angular,typically seen in villainous characters) to his thoughts on jazz after his jam session(saying that the music really found it's direction thanks to modern editing/processing), points to him being a misguided individual, if not outright opposition to the very point of free jazz and by extension his worldview/view of war being wrong. He's at best misguided, at worst an obvious villain.
I am by no means a zeon fanboy, but the softer moments shown for Daryl paints him in a far more positive, sympathetic role, whereas Io is shown in a overly rough and crude(passionate?) manner paints him as a chaotic and hedonistic character
Not that there's any heroes in war especially when it comes to Gundam, just that all the cues seem to point to Daryl being the "hero" of this series
The Cartoon Cipher hey not to start shit... but all popular genre of music was created by black ppl lol thank the black for jazz blue grass rock r&b country pop disco and hip-hop. Thank got for us
I'd like to mention the fact that Macross has been doing this from the begining. That fact aside, nice video
DAMN YOU GUNDAM! *Smooth Jazz Plays*
Glass Reflection what are your thoughts on this show
Glass Reflection Hey man, I was wondering what you thought of Thunderbolt too, I personally feel it's one of the most well made Gundam series to date, the excellent visual story telling really sets it apart from others in my opinion
I would love to see a review of Gundam Thunderbolt on your channel too
Hahahaha!
What's the name of that particular track
Thunderbolt is the cowboy bebop of Gundams
FINALLY SOMEONE HAS THAT PERSPECTIVE TOO, I FUCKING RESPEC U MAN
@@Double_Zeta make it 3
Black Water Entertainment-OFFICIAL, my nigga
@Jessi Maldonado 08th MS Team is the Fortunate Son/Run Through the Jungle music video of Gundam.
@@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 yeah
" it's a gundam "
never get old
Guinness Dega True!😂😘
Damn right!
Dam u gundam!!!
It would be cool to see a scene of two contemporary grunt mobile suits going along the lines of 'it's gundam' when meeting a hopelessly outdated gundam before dispatching it in one go.
Indeed
I don't think the music is weaponized, I think their FEELINGS are weaponized. The music is more of a representation of Io and Daryl's feelings.
It doesn’t seem to stop at feelings. The music is a representation of their personalities and view on the world.
Io’s love of the rush of speeding in space is reflected in the Jazz he listens to and that plays when he is the center of the camera. Daryl’s feelings of being with his comrades especially his team of snipers is reflected in not only that they all listen to a music that can be easily sung in a crowd as it could by a individual.
"When you hear jazz, it'll be your exit music."
Hears jazz:
[Heavy sweating]
the subs make it sound more menacing
"when you hear jazz, it means im coming."
XD
Now you must learn an appreciation for
FREEFORM JAZZ
-SpongeBob, and this video.
*makes a fake thinking face*
@@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 ok your ready!
Thunderbolt Gundam is my favorite gundam. Its got the classic look of a RX-78 with a sick color scheme and a powerhouse of cannons, missile launchers, double set shields, and dual sabers.
It has 3 beam sabers
I love Thunderbolt and you've hit the mark every step of the way with this video.
Zeon: it’s a Gundam
Io: haha jazz make me go zoom
Gundam Thunderbolt perfected what Code Geass did especially the OVA "Akito The Exiled." Music especially Jazz give the raw emotions that lacks in structured songs. This is why it's very powerful when in sync with animations.
SELF DESTRUCT DISNEGAGED?!?!?!
I mean they both make the instruments do sound effects some times.
No joke akito the exiled sometimes would just wonder if they straight up put in soundeffects that are notes from an instrument like in thunderbolt with some of the songs.
Us it just me or the Atlas Gundam really looks like the Lancelot?
I think it's time to blow this scene,
Get everybody and their stuff together,
3,
2,
1,
Lets jam!
@Adam Bryant Insert Cow Boy Bebop theme here.
ua-cam.com/video/pDpm4ItLzlA/v-deo.html
*DUNU-DUNU-DUNU-DUNUUUUUNUUUH*
@Adam Bryant 😂
GM and Zaku detonates.
This show nearly made me cry. Just let Daryl go home already. He's suffered so much.
Delet this his home might be gone
Same this gundam series has a deep meaning in to your heart feel so sad
As much as a jerk as Io is at times, you have to feel sorry for him to.
Hell, he’s already home. It’s just destroyed and they are fighting in a mass gravesite that is Side 4.
Facts
I doubt that’s n option considering how desperate the zeons were
I think something interesting to point out is that both pilots eventually abandon their preferred fighting style. Going from “a sniper doesn’t need maneuverability” to piloting the single most manoeuvrable MS of the series or from the hectic reactive dodging and piloting to operating an MS that emphasizes toughness and firepower over speed. This might just be me reading to far into it, but this could also be representative of the pilots loss of self.
*Y A L I K E G U N D A M J A Z Z*
*Y e a h*
I love how you perfectly explain how and why Io Fleming is the protagonist in Gundam Thunderbolt.
Thunderbolt is a movie I need time to prepare for to rewatch. It's left it's own impacts on me
I agree, thunderbolt arguably is the reason why I got so much into gundam, even though it’s not the first gundam show I’ve watched. Before I watched thunderbolt, I watched unicorn and I really enjoyed it, it was brutal, the animation was gorgeous, the action was great, and the mobile suit designs are iconic in the franchise. BUT the second half of unicorn wasn’t good in my opinion, the characters weren’t interesting at all and the ending felt cheap and out of nowhere, and rewatching the show while helped improve my view on it, the show didn’t improve that much in my eyes, and banagher was not a good protagonist and a bit of a white knight to me. But then came thunderbolt. And let me tell you, thunderbolt was something else entirely, the action in the show was insane and fast paced, the music was on an another level, The characters were unreal and truly amazing, the animation look gorgeous, and the mobile suits are my favorite of the entire franchise. And even though I still enjoy unicorn and some others like Ibo, I don’t hold them in high regard as thunderbolt.
Unusually enough, the anime changed the genre of jazz that Io listened to in the manga. Instead of free jazz, Io listened to John Coltraine's Giant Steps album, which was hardbop. You should probably take a listen to Giant Steps, it's an excellent song.
Just gave that a listen too on Spotify, was great! Thank you!
God Damn, Giant Steps was a thrill
Yeah. Giant steps gives off similar vibes tho (whenever John has a seizure I mean solos). It was also prob copyrighted.
ah yes, the guy who has watched that vox video
Ah no wonder Giant Steps was so familiar!
21 Savage: Issa Knife.
The Gundam series: Issa Gundam
God i love thunderbolt
Mason Cooper where can I watch this show?
@@evileddy4055 you can watch here by gundaminfo
The OST in this Gundam is ansolutely amazing. I downloaded both albums and I have listened to it a dozen times already.
The concert was SO amazing, it was such a lovely event! Thanks for this great video.
I don’t usually bother commenting about how well analysis’s like are done, but god damn you knocked it out of the park with this video.
There is no winning in war.. only survivors.
God I love this series so far. It's nice to finally have a protagonist who isn't some wafer thin tween that wants to use his trillion dollar death machine for peace while simultaneously killing and/or getting everyone around him killed. Makes a great contrast to how obsessed his zeon enemies are with their dreams and fantasies.
Brilliant analysis! Truly felt all of what is mentioned in the movies. Such genius series that truly knew how to represent dehumanization through war, a topic that fits so well to mecha, almost as Cyberpunk itself. PLUS, it's a real treat listening to both the extremes of music that I adore from the deepest of my heart; wild-hearted Jazz and heavy-hearted Pop. The one that ensures freedom and pushes the ability of one-self and one that speaks the words you can't say, something that many people felt too, and therefore, is so relatable. Having to watch cruelty, awesome mecha, disturbing human relationships with their respective outcomes, and having the pleasure to listen to my music made Thunderbolt one of my favorite Mecha works. Up there standing with Macross, Patlabor, Gurren Laggan, Zone Of The Enders, etc.
*_Jazz: Music's Most Underrated Genre_*
Correction: *_THE BEST GENRE OF MUSIC_*
It’s not underrated by people who know what they are talking about
The concert and Anime NYC was incredible. The musicians were fantastic, but for me Ai Kuwabara was the standout. Never seen anyone play piano so... physically except maybe Jerry Lee Lewis, and honestly, she's better. If you've ever watched Motocross or Supercross, the way they manipulate the bike with their arms, hips and legs is the closest analog to how she plays.
It bounced from seeming sensual to playful to downright violent, like she was making the piano do what she wanted it to. Downright amazing.
Also really surprising that it was Naruyoshi Kikuchi's first time in New York.
The Dreaming Girl in Me is one of my favorites, been listening to it on repeat all week
I don’t usually comment about how good an analysis video is, but god damn you hit all the right spots so well that I have to recommend this video to everyone who cares even a little bit about mecha.
Let’s be honest 90% of fundamentalism shows is just some person yelling it’s a gundam
This is true
Imagine a néo Zeon pilot sarcastically telling that to his mate when they meet a OYW era Gundam before dispatching it in one go.
@@randompheidoleminor3011 Im pretty sure most OWY era gundams could probably still hold their own even in the latter years of the UC.
@@randompheidoleminor3011 no zakus survives when gundam is around
*GANDAMU DA!*
The music really gives me an epic Cowboy Beebop feel. Definitely has a lot of emotion going for it.
Being a Macross fan and a UC Gundam fan (and a picky one of both at that) I was wondering where you were going to go with this, but, Gotta say you nailed it. While I know little about Jazz, and maybe a bit more about pop ballads and easy listening (Kind of reminds me of 50s and early 60s music) It makes a lot of sense. I really enjoyed Thunderbolt
The Jazz in Thundetbolt and the music of G-Tekketsu fit their respective shows perfectly.
It boggles me that I have yet to see anyone recreate sounds like sento-chu or the main theme for thunderbolt which makes me believe that its that insane to play
Since I was born there will be some guy who always talk about gundam and still to this day its interesting
I just realised the Psycho Zaku was literally a wheelchair for a disabled pilot
This video is edited beautifully, simple and effective not distracting or annoying just straight up simple and clean.
I fucking love Thunderbolt and this video describes one reason for it reall well. Gud vid.
I'm hooked up with this content of yours. Now I'm one of your notification squad! Love the Gundam Franchise, I posted this while I'm watching Iron Blood Orphan, after this I'll go straight to Thunderbolt.
I guess Thunderbolt is my favorite gundam now if it focuses on music this much
That was jazzy.
mugensamurai XD great pun! XD
The scene of the zeon sniper running in the zaku gave me feel, calculated feels, calculated feels i haven't felt since Black RX
fuck yes finally a gundam episode now do iron blooded orphans sometime
ninjammer726 yeah, IBO's soundtrack is incredible
And 00's score is cool as well.
Favorite Gundam series
You guys consistently put out quality content. I hope to see you grow more!
One thing I'm not sure everyone notices:
When Daryl debuts the psychozaku, he's listening to "Yes girl", a slow-paced jazz, although it has some catchy lyrics. This is a testament to him incorporating Io's mobility in order to adapt to his new mobile suit.
Later in the show, at the beggining of Bandit Flower, Io is listening to "Groovy duel" as he uses the railgun. While it still is crazy jazz, some passages have sense of melody and emotion in it, just like he implements Daryl's sniping into his own inventory.
Thunderbolt is so fucking dark man...But we LOVE IT.
I think music has a hand in allot of stuff we do, i listen to allot when I draw or play games for me it inspires but also makes me feel loose and focused at the same time.
It's like being put in an overdrive like trance especially when armed with your emotions. The meaning to something as was as the will sync up, it would explain why boss fights for me in games feel great, it's not the victory of something, but the fight itself, the thrill of battle.
Same could be said with art, when I draw I like to see what I can do and when music plays I'm inspired to do more for the joy!
SAME!! And I Couldn't said it better myself When I Draw Or Game I'm in My Own World Like a Peaceful Or a Epic Environment it Music is Powerful So Powerful to Helps People be Imaginative.
Hope ya get more subs buddo. You deserve 'em.
I think this is maybe the best video essay I have ever seen
Well done! I've always been fascinated with how music rythm can do so much in terms of action, movement & repose, war & peace in various forms & environments. I never thought I'd discover a Cowboy Bebop Gundam named Thunderbolt no less, now that's just awesome!
Is amazing how differente G thunderbolt and Macross Delta are
Thunderbolt is refreshment after bunch of kids style gundam...age, build fighters, etc.....December Sky is full of action...then Bandit Flower more drama..which the ending still make us antusias...can't wait for 3rd movie...where Perfect Gundam thunderbolt version meet new Psycho Zaku...
Really interesting perspective. Love it!
Wow this animation is GORGEEEEEOOOOOOOUS
So cool! Loved Thunderbolt. Thanks for the insight!
The fight between Full Armour ( Io ) and Psycho Zaku ( Daryl ) was Jazz vs Disco. 🤣
this was a very insightful video, keep up the good work!
Just to add note here:
Io listening music to forget, while Daryl in other hand use that to remember.
This what make them as both MC that fight each other are unique in their own way.
Gundam thunder bolt have me favorite osts and show
Fleming, the "protagonist" who kills mercilessly and mocks soldiers for their physical disabilities
Laurel Jacobs Sounds like my kind of protagonist.
There is two protagonist, Io and Darren.
Protagonist, NOT hero. Big difference. Protags are just the main characters; a show can have a shitbag as it's main character, but they're still considered a protag.
Also, Daryl is the best
@@MechaTheSpidersometimes the villain is the protagonist like McBeth but in this instance Daryl and Fleming both have they're scas Fleming lost just about everything important to him so he's completely jaded but still has his body in tack while Daryl lost his limbs but still has people he cares about. They are 2 sides of the same coin and honestly in the end it feels like both see the other as broken.
@@MechaTheSpider its*
Excellent video! Gundam Thunderbolt is one of the masterpieces of the Gundam universe, in my opinion.
well edited video with great analysis, kudos to you...
Idk why but the sneezing and needing tissues makes him super relatable
Without Doubt ''Gundam Thunderbolt'' is a Awesome Gundam Saga my friends. The Jazz is a Iconic Music. Is So Perfect here. Thanks.
Free jazz plays in a movie called BLOOD IN BLOOD OUT, DIA DEL MUERTO
That instrument at 3:15 is not a wind instrument, but a brass. More specifically, it's a trumpet. I know that texture, no matter how distorted, because I play one.
Sorry, tried to generalize woodwind and brass by using a simple word and I guess it wasn't really applicable :(
No worries. That said, I think the prominence of trumpets in Thunderbolt's soundtrack is pretty relevant to your point about Io Fleming's individualistic personality since the sound of brass instruments can be manipulated a lot more than a woodwind.
Actually the video was correct. The classification of "wind" instruments encompasses both woodwind and brass. For a trumpet to be a brass instrument, it is by definition *ALSO* a wind instrument. And the manipulation of sound varies a lot more on individual instruments than you give it credit for. There's a lot of brass instruments which don't have the variability of a trumpet, and a few woodwinds which come pretty close to it.
It's the same musician as cowboy bebop, now I understand why I got the similar vibe in thunderbolt! 😍
I liked how people were missing limbs in Thunderbolt, I don’t think we’ve seen that in a Gundam series before... added with the Jazz. Oh. my. God!
This video has convinced me to watch Gundam Thunderbolt
Man, jazz is the best you can listen to. It defines the concept of conflict so perfectly.
When you hear my jazz you die
I’ve only watched “SD Gunsam Force”
guess ill need to watch all of gundam now
Excellent analysis
So...I’ve loved all this musician has done...and never heard of him. Crazy.
Music can make adraneline
Kinda takes a page of Cowboy Bebop, with jazz and blues music in the most action and intense scenes of the anime.
For some reason I feel like there is going to be a season 3 even though their isn’t any other recent volumes of the manga, but we are literally all on cliffhangers, we know who Levan Fuu is but what about the physco zaku, and the atlas gundam and the guncannon aqua and Claudia, so many cliffhangerssssssssss!!!!!!!!
Great content please keep it coming.
I was there and it was beautiful
Great video man.
If you hear jazz then you know when the DEVIL is coming
Great video and analysis
Gotta wonder when will a Gundam pilot weaponize heavy metal music.
Would that make him unstoppable?
A weapon to surpass Io's Gundam.
Metal Gear, is that you?
The title actually represents Gundam thunderbolt a lot matter of fact many quotes does for example I read a quote on Twitter a few days ago saying there are no demons in angels just people or there's there are no good guys or bad guys in war. Going to be thunderbolt is one of the fewest shows to make me cry so that's why I hold going to Thunderbolt as my number one
Honestly gundam thunderbolt is one of my absolute favorite gundam series.
Great analysis, you've got a subscriber 👌
yes!!! a gundam vid. right on!!
War in pocket was sad too
Great video
“Turn music into weapon” the same thing also said it in Macross Delta
X-Ecks actually macross in general.
Macross delta made it terrible. Frontier did it alright. But they aren't exactly fighting but gave the pilots more adrenaline. The original macross doesn't have music as a weapon until the last part of the Macross. As it made the alien race change there mind. As they knew that the war was usless. Plus, is just an AI brainwashing people.
And here i was thinking he was going to compare it to macross
groovy duel
awesome video!
I should watch THUNDERBOLT.
I've got lots of Cowboy Bebop tingles goin' on.
Really great video
I could see a lot of people cynically comparing Thunderbolt's use of Baby Boomer music to recent Hollywood films trying to mimic Guardians of the Galaxy. This video would serve as a pretty good response to that.
The hell? No! Thunderbolt is LITTERLY LIKE THOSE two not saying that they’re bad but they are EXTREMELY DIFFERENT
One uses public consciousness and another uses style to tell a mood. They’re completely different