This would be the perfect video if u just instead made a tiny difference, change tomorrow war to Spider-Man 3 then ur video will also be a cinematic masterpiece
@@bagel4123 No, the bestb option is to tell the people in the past all you know about the enemy and hope THEY can find a better way to win. Because the future is already lost, no matter how you slice it. Hell, the movie practically show the future being overrun in the end. All they did was wastes hundreds of thousands of lives. And, if the movie was more realistic, it would have all been for nothing because you don't create a 100% effective anti-alien serum just like that in an afternoon. Realistically, the future just straight up hands over everything to the past, tells them what they learned of the aliens, where they appeared (yes, they didn't know the exact location but they fucking knew it was somewhere in a specific region in russia. We've been able to work with less. Hell, a band of nobodies with no ressources were able to find them in months and you're trying to tell me that the literal entire world would have been unable to?), hands over the research and all advance they made in technology and then have the past actually discover how to beat them
@@randomdude3578 They did do that later and they didn't believe it. Even if they did they wouldn't know where to look because they didn't know where they came from until the characters figured it out
I really liked the "exposition dump" at the beginning. With that phone interview during the party you got the whole background, motivations and relationships of the main protagonist in a few minutes. You feel bad for him not getting the job even he is seemingly a good candidate, has a family and wants to grow into something more than a high school teacher. This way they showed it instead of just telling. That was some smart writing. The plausibility of an American neigbourhood having a soccer world cup party is another thing...
I think it's cause, soccer is the most watched sport in the world, and a FIFA World Cup final's game will have hundreds of millions, maybe even billions of people watching (2018 had over 1 billion viewers). The future army arriving at the soccer field is actually perfect to broadcast their message to as many people as they can at the same time on live TV. So yeah, it has to be a soccer game that they're watching, haha.
yes they should be watching upper-limb egg-ball because that has worldwide coverage... Using world cup as the medium was genius,. The plausibility of Brazil in the final is another thing...
that’s not show don’t tell lmao. don’t forget that as soon as he rages from not getting the job the draft begins, giving him basically another private military contract.
MrCOPYPASTE using world cup as their device for the announcement would’ve led to nobody in america seeing it. it’s part of a trend to make american films more worldly or palatable to other countries. not a genius decision at all, an incredibly simple one that makes a little bit of sense considering soccer is far more viewed worldwide, until you realize the movie is set in america, and the scene requires you to believe 30 americans gathered to watch this.
@@obscure.reference I don't believe you... I know for a fact that a lot of Americans watch big events like the world cup. Probably not as in the rest of the world, ,but a lot. Alas genius
The White Spikes are so menacing because the designers understood one thing: Kinaesthetics. Those things have a visible weight and momentum, while being terrifyingly agile and absolutely relentless. The Result is a monster that looks and feels like a "ninja tank" that onlky knows how to advance, advance, advance. Utterly brilliant.
@@Spidey-oi5sn Comics are one of those things people can use to hold on to their childhood so companies use that to manipulate people. The MCU is almost religious in how people see it.
@@Spidey-oi5sn LMAO NOT at all. The MCU is NOT "overrated as fuck" in the slightest. People don't blindly praise ever single marvel move that comes out, and people have criticized other films like black widow that alot of others were hyped for but don't Overall tho, the MCU deserves it's praise as it's able to make consistently good fun enjoyable movies that are fun to watch with it's iconic characters and cast they built up to even with some hit and miss movies.
@@afattaco7278 I don't think he lies. He just decided to point out what is good in a terrible movie for a change. He says is again and again, he is not a movie critic.
Even the high schoolers Dan teaching seems exhausted and desperate due to how their family got drafted in the war. Yeah, this movie is not really about the alien they're fighting, but about the fight and the war itself. How it affects the individuals involved and their families.
Yes!! Alsi can you blame the kids cause for them, "im going to die in 29 years so whats the point trying to get a life when it will be taken away at the peek".
Your channel being negative lately is not on you, it's on the movie industry that is majorly producing low quality projects. I love the channel quality and your approach on the projects. As long as you keep your integrity I am fine with your take.
@@milanxlewis the movies he’s critiqued recently have been mostly big movies that drew a lot of attention. Those movies just happen to be bad therefore he has the right to make negative videos on them. It ain’t on him idiot
@@milanxlewis I find his videos topic interesting : he mostly deconstruct why movie doesn't work and propose how to make them better. He isn't there to review them. I think people have the wrong expectation for the channel.
And I guess it also doesn't help that say a first time viewer will see the word "failure" in the thumbnail and think that his videos are nothing but rants
@@rileyhawthorne1068 who said he didn't "have the right"? He's still choosing to make videos on shit as opposed to looking for films that are known to be actually thoughtful or challenging.
The only things I wanna say is that I love the amount of violence and whatnot and how satisfying it is, and how the movie shows off a ton of wide shots and gives you everything going on, not even with the characters. I love it
My favorite scene of the movie is when the Protagonist goes back to the present and see his daugther. The face of pure shock and terror man, it was quite shocking.
@@sammylee5474 if it was a series, I think it would've had that, but it didn't have enough time to explore the different facets of that and I feel like it showed enough with what time it had left.
My favorite part of Tomorrow War is the design of the Aliens themselves, a mix of the armor the Quiet Place creatures and a Grievor from The Maze Runner
I loved this movie, it has MANY small faults but when looking at it as a whole I think they did good. It won't win any awards and will probably be forgotten by everyone by the end of the year but I don't care, I'm a sucker for Sci fi violence.
sorry to bother but do you mind tellin me all at least some of the faults/plot holes? im a very casual viewer and see shit movies like greenlantern as a good movie
@@kataki7p21 It has been six months since I saw the movie, so I have forgotten all the small details I had gripes to be honest. If I am in the mood to rewatch it and remember this comment (I probably won't) then I will update you. The two things I do remember is that the little speech when the people from the future revealed themself at soccer match was kinda Cringe and the reasoning for the time machine yeeting people off the edge of the building was BARELY explained. I have no problem with that last point because they did infact explain it but with a single line easily forgotten line. God, I need to learn to write shorter responses.
@@kataki7p21 Yeah that's how I am too. I just enjoy movies for what they are. I don't really hate or dislike movies unless I'm bored but even then it's not like there's a story reason for it.
The movie had MANY plot holes, but the subplot of fatherly abandonment due to combat PTSD was surprisingly powerful and the unexpected third act with the alien ship and the monsters being in the cargo hold as an invasion force was really interesting. The movie was wrapped up with an emotional pay-off that was well earned. I couldn't say the same for so many other movies
This is a shut off your brain popcorn movie that is competent so long as you don't think about it too much. Nothing inherently wrong with that. There are plenty of bad movies that I enjoy watching. Heck, I watch Riddick every time it is on TV and it is late at night and I can't sleep. However, it is not some sort of cinematic masterpiece.
the movie was saved by its acting crew tbh. because of it wasnt for the acting the emotional and ptsd scenes wouldnt hit that hard. the plotgoles of this movie is just too large as Chuck Hoyle said this is one of those "dont think about it too much" and i honestly agree with it. i think it satifies people who havent watched that many shows or movies because they usually tend to skip over the plotholes and just docus onto the emotional and fighting scenes over all for me its a 7.5/10 (probably since the "cheap" emotional scenes dosent work for me anymore) edit: was on mobile so sorry for the soelling
That right there is the biggest plot hole. We would have destroyed them almost entirely using ONLY air power alone. That is, if they didnt blitz our airbases and freaking wreak havoc on our war materiel.
I mean fuel isnt unlimited and you have to manage supply lines on the ground, bullets are also limited and humanity surviving in a few dozen helicopters needing to land eventually whilst the surface gets wiped out isnt ideal they do have certain areas that are safe i guess, but the main issue was that they breed like rabbits and attacked all at once without warning, so realistically it would be the best strategy shy of bombs (which they also used) but it wouldn't be sustainable for that long or prevent them overwhelming cities EDIT: And that's just the normal white spikes, I forgot until watching this video that they can actually also fly like flying squirrels if they need to, and also they were named after their spikes which seem to be no joke, I fully believe between flying and infesting buildings they'd be able to shoot or claw down a helicopter fairly easily if it tried to get close enough to shoot anything on the ground accurately
@@TywinLannister666 In the beginning of the movie, they had an F15 or sumthin do a tactical sweep of the area the ground troops were engaged!!! So they brought people from the past, to do a ground assault for 10mins, only to be told they have 10mins to evacuate because we are gonna send a jet to drop a bomb!!! REALLY😂😂😂!!!! Bsides those Aliens clearly fall on the "Species too stupid to exist" category cz any competent army general wld have layed a trap by concentrating the aliens to 1 place & nuke em!!! Its too easy!!!
I think that the reason the critics hate this movie so much is that the central thesis is that Dan's best life is with his wife, daughter, and father. Started the movie thinking that he was destined for something greater, but there's no greater roles that Dan could aspire to than 'Son', 'Husband', and 'Father', which is where he ends the movie.
@@saber_1113 The 2 commas between "flick" and "you're" are sorta awkward. The commas for the phrase "I, for one, " are important though, because they make the idiom easier to understand
@@crusadr_4966 The commas around "though" are important, too. Because I'm not saying "though you're talking..." I may abuse commas sometimes, but that sentence wasn't one of those times.
@@se7enhaender I've been trying to get some kind of consensus from filmento's regulars....but nobody can answer. Seems like cinemawins to me, outright exaggerate or lie to praise the movie
I wanna piece up whoever chose the change the name from “ghost draft” (badass) to “the tomorrow war” (sounds like a movie that would play in gta/ a cartoon)
I'm guessing it was probably some business exec that thought if they call it "the tomorrow war", it would be easy enough for foreign countries to not have to translate the name, and can understand the title. Like in japan, the title is literally "the tomorrow war" in katakana (japanese pronunciation of english).
This movie is serious when someone said *”OH SHIT! OH SHIT! OH SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT…”* in front of aliens that is about to take out the whole squad. _Wait a minute…_
Sounds like a natural reaction to a hostile predator you've never encountered before aggressively attacking and successfully incapacitating your companions.
@@harshgala6256 Nando v Movies has an open invite thing for vids focusing on a topic: This time around, it's a Villainous Scene. Playlist here: ua-cam.com/play/PLd7v7nQLQGwJBoBF_5A1oGIbVh125hkaW.html Totally worth the watch.
Oh buddy. 'Film Perfection' in a hilarious Movie about Plot Holes and some Side-Quest about maybe Time-Traveling. Haha. No. This is an Ok-Movie at Best. But its riddled with Plot Hole Nonsense so bad that people all over the world make Fun of it.
@@CasualCube0 near the end when Dan and his dad are fighting the Queen and Dan infected it with the toxin in it's arm so everyone thought they'd won until the Queen ripped out it's own arm to make sure the toxin didn't spread
Honestly, I bet one of the reasons people didn’t like this movie is based on your first main praise. The continual changing and negative “deals”. Because it all depends on the interpretation. You obviously went with the positive, but it’s very easy to see it negatively. It also looks a lot like continual failure. With the protagonists never succeeding, tho not necessarily their fault. All of those “deal” changing events can also be described as the group failing to complete their objective. What makes it worse is that a lot of the time, it isn’t the people’s faults, it’s the plot. The plot is continually making all of the goals and expectations impossible, which sucks. If it was just the people being not good enough, we could expect them to get better, that they could have done better, but no. The early deployment, bad landing, inept government, overrun science base, useless water base, etc.. All of this was already compromised before the protagonists entered the scene. And what does that mean? That those plot elements didn’t matter. That the people were useless. That no matter how good the characters were, this missions were never going to be completed. If a plot element plays out the same way with or without the protagonists, then it’s essentially just filler and a waste of time, for the characters and the viewers. Obviously, this is the negative interpretation. But both this one and filmento’s are perfectly valid, it all depends on the viewer.
@@Jaykmrch -sure, but again, preferences. Do people go to movies to see how realistic life is via failures? No, they went there for entertainment. Which, again, is subjective. So the “heightened” realism makes it better for some, worse for others.
he is just being sarcastic more and more new film are bad, so he needs to change how he make vids or ppl would only knew him as reviewer thats always bad reviewing a film XD
A lot of people politicized it because like Trump, "Chris Pratt bad!" It should be noted that they made two black men as survivors of the MC's team, and they survive to the end, and even help SAVE the world!!! One does a self-sacrifice because "I'm dying of Cancer, I'm going to die MY WAY! *BOOM!*" Killed 99.999% of all the aliens right there. The second black man was a scientist and CEO, and you know what happens? He goes from Coward "I hid..." to LITERAL being a BOSS with a melee-ing a monster in the brains with a saw! Then there's Vietnam veteran "CONSPIRACY SANTA" who proves his skills in Nam were well paid off in the film.
@@1_atlas_7 i think the negative deals help the movie showing how actually we are fighting a losing war and why, so with every step forward there are 10 backwards Just like halo reach, don't know if you plaied the game. And this kind of stuff it's usefull to show off exactly why we are losing and how our enemy Is so lethal
Filmento, I feel like you should make another category called a cinematic meh, something that isn’t a failure but isn’t film perfection either Edit: Thx for all the likes! This is the most I’ve ever gotten!
That staircase scene is so good, the reveal was so scary and they looked great. I had no clue this was going to have aliens (context, I only saw a brief commercial on TV where they come into the stadium so I assumed it was humans from now fighting humans in the future)
I laughed a lot at tht scene. It was illogical and if they kept at their same pace, they would have died to the air strike 😂 Besides the need to be in a hurry, they shine a light at the white claws and the black dude yells at his squad Mates, gaining the attention of these monsters. At rhe end of the scene, we met with tht 1v1 scene with chris pratt and the monster and the other black guy helps him at the end. He explains tp chris hoe to beat them and I couldn't stop laughing thinking why he just didnt tell the rest this information
Whoa, that small frame reveal in 13:44 and the music and how they blend so much that, it produces so much emotion and tension. That right there is a masterpiece. If they even just fix the plot holes properly, this movie would be clearly one of the greatest movie of all time sci-fi monster genre.
Unfortunately that's not actually part of the movie. That was Filmento editing that in. The music is from Captain America: Civil war and the frame is just an edit.
I love how you always have something to add to these discussions of movies. Everyone has been ripping this movie apart with its plot holes. Yet here you are discussing the themes and the message of the movie. Im happy to see you giving the movie credit where credit is due. I look forward to seeing the next perfect movie that you decide to "review"
The Critical Drinker was also benevolent with this movie, I watched it with very low expectations, but watching a competent scientist being inspired by her father, who was also white and straight was a refreshing idea in 2021.
Oh buddy. 'Film Perfection' in a hilarious Movie about Plot Holes and some Side-Quest about maybe Time-Traveling. Haha. No. This is an Ok-Movie at Best. But its riddled with Plot Hole Nonsense so bad that people all over the world make Fun of it.
Indeed, this "altering the deal" concept made the movie unexpectedly exiting and tense on a random Tuesday night with Amazon - thanks a lot for making this visible and clear to me
This movie has something for everyone. For all the great things you can praise it for, there are also a bunch of ways to nitpick it apart for all the flaws.
of which there are many, to me the movie felt like how Knots Berry Farm is. Some professional aspects mixed with attractions you'd find in a carnival. Anything with the monsters attacking was top tier, anything to do with the human army was low bar.
I think Filmento was nicer to this movie than I could've expected. It was a lot of blatant plot convenience and poor character writing. I think the movie took a turn for the better during the second half which I actually think was really interesting and entertaining but for somebody like Filmento I'd expect him to be way more critical
"This part of the movie was poorly executed" "How you dare speak bad of this masterpiece?!" "This aspect of the movie is the best of cinema" "How dare to give a perfect score to this trashy movie?!" Everyone's *un*happy
Bro, I watched "love and Monsters" on your recommendation and it was baddass! I also watched "monster hunter world" even though you said it was a poor movie. You were right on both counts! You haven't been negative, you've been honest. The only reason you've given negative feed back is because they keep churning out rubbish movies. Someone needs to call them out for this, and you have been a great job! Don't listen to people who say "you're being negative" just keep being honest and you'll keep the watchers who consistantly watch your content. Keep it up bro, stay true and keep it real. That's all most of us want. Thank you for your hard work.
The “drop” was absolutely explained, you can hear them yelling that the time link was breaking. The landing zone ended up being shot. They pre-established that when explaining why they have limited choices to when they go to, when they said the tech isn’t perfected and was being held together with duct tape. We don’t need to hear the detailed explanation of why the quantum fluctuations of the Einstein Rosen bridge wasn’t stable because the dark energy powering it couldn’t be harnessed without the power of a magnetar… see how that sentence for super boring real quick?
One of the reasons I liked it was so many things in the movie weren't handed but delivered by contextual clues, like did you notice that virtually all the pilots were not from the future?
@@balthier1706 I choose to see these insane bouts of luck as we the audience getting to see the one person that DOES make it in a sea of corpses, because for almost the entirety of the battalion being sent, and most of all other forces deployed, there's the exact outcome we would expect in this situation: Instant death. The same thing happens in many other movies such as World War Z, where we follow the one character who through sheer luck at times manages to survive it all, because following anyone else would mean a very short and unfulfilling movie. I do understand the issue with surface tension, but asuming there's a 1% chance of survival, through a combination of the gear and other corpses breaking the surface tension just enough to prevent Pratt from dying, in the context of all the other soldiers who died or where so terribly crippled that they quickly became Alien chowder, it makes sense that at least one person would survive the drop, or in the case of the movie, less than a dozen soldiers. It's kind of like the list of people who've survived falling from a plane without a parachute: The odds of survival are almost zero, but with enough "attempts", the improbable becomes a believable possibility, which is what this movie is about.
@@estebanpineros9409 they could just have easily had the battalion land safely and killed some other way. Maybe the glitch caused them to land scattered and isolated. You could hear over the comms as each group is picked off as they all try desperately to regroup. It adds tension, a proper assessment of the threat, and when the monster reveal finally comes into play, you have a full sense of how dangerous these things are. Idk man. Falling a thousand feet to land in a pool would have killed him. There isn’t enough water. “Luck” isn’t even a factor.
It's a bit passable, but the movie is actually good. Love how the protagonist's future daughter's acting made the story very serious both in matters of personal and world level.
The movie was very very average. Bearable at best. Acting was bad and it just wan't entertaining. Action bad. Tense sequences bad. Everything bad. Even Chris Pratt was bad.
@@vojacked305 Suicide Squad, Jungle Cruise, Cruella (Yup even this is better), Wrath of man, A Quiet Place Part 2, Nobody, The Father and hell even Fast and Furious 9 was better than the tomorrow war. This junk is the worst of the lot
The way they revealed the aliens during the stairs scene was great/intense! I also knew Filmento liked it, cuz he always complains about how bad movies reveal the monsters the wrong way or at the wrong time.
I like how you open my mind to the fact that somewhere in this ordinary movie there is the seed of something great. There were a lot of neat ideas lost in the rush to keep things moving. The only movie that was able to achieve that was Fury road.
I think people dont watch your videos at all...they are just offended by the title Filmento never said black widow is bad, he just pointed out why it may have failed as a spy thriller movie Filmento never said quiet place 2 is bad, he just said ut didnt follow the same path as quiet place, and it didnt feel like a proper sequel Doesn't mean these movies are bad His "Film perfection" and "Anatomy of failure" are just video titles....they dont necessarily indicate if a movie is bad or not
the internet lost the ability for nuanced discussion. The only thing people want is to know how many stars the thing deserves and it better be a 5 star scale, 10 is already too complicated.
1. You are right on both counts. Just because _Quiet Place 2_ is a retread doesn't stop it from being one of the best *ACTION* movies of the year. (I don't think it's horror anymore.) 2. While not in any way bad, _Black Widow_ *did* feel lacking to me. And wouldn't ya know it, Filmento helped me to figure out _why._
I actually really liked this movie. There’s not many movies that have alien invasion plots that I enjoy. But the theme of parents doing things for the children’s future and forgiveness makes the movie the more better
You lost me at “more better”. Haha that aside, the plot holes and nonsensical choices really killed it for me. The message of parents sacrificing for their kids was touching for sure, but that doesn’t save the movie
Rewatched it and realized that this is the closest we've gotten to 80s era action films surprisingly laden with heavy and complex themes by competent filmmakers who knew exactly what they were going for. It felt nostalgic to the days when films were an escape, and i want more.
I was so refreshed from this film not being another attempt at pandering/hypocritically lecturing at people that I enjoyed this movie far more than I thought I would.
It has a ton of issues, mainly plot holes, but honestly I love this movie, watch it all the time, love the setting, love the monsters, the comedic releif is over the top but not really annoying about it, the way the supporting characters are portrayed is super nice, the movie makes it clear that barely any of them are soldiers , most are just moms, dads, sons and daughters pulled into a fight against an unknown enemy, the bigger guy stumbles on his words when he's nervous, the lady screams in bravery and fear when she and the bigger guy try to hold off the whitespikes, that's some great character and so easy to do. This movie felt like a video game, where the story isn't as crucial as the gameplay, and I feel like this movie nailed the world and gameplay.
Tell me why you've done a better job concisely critiquing this movie than any of these living room critics, when you've obviously learned it from listening to them?🤔
@The_Com-Mentor People pretty commonly dislike this movie, which I guess I can understand. I came across a video that highlighted the things I liked about it, being someone who plays games a lot, I appreciate it's feel, approach and execution, just the same way I do with Edge of Tomorrow. If it lines up with stuff you've heard from other people, cool, I don't really care, I just wanted to express my feelings about a movie I like. I don't see why that has to be a problem with some random other person like you.
@@ZephyrusAsmodeus if ur a female, I meant no disrespect, I was just highlighting how u captured the greatness of the movie without a long-winded dissertation.
Sending soldiers to fight a war in the future instead of just preventing said war is characters making unbelievable decisions. It doesn't allow you to absorb the emotional context of the the parent/child scenes...
Well, they had no idea how to prevent the war. That makes it even more unbelievable that officials would reject to help when there is actually a way to prevent that war. The final part ruined the movie for me.
@@ИванСнежков-з9й Unbelievable? Hell, the current world governments are already doing the same bullshit. You clearly don't understand how fucked up politicians are.
They WERE trying to prevent the war, they didn't know HOW to yet. AND they were trying to save their OWN timeline because the timelines are seperate, basially its own universe. Did you think it'd be MORE believable if ALL of humanity in the future would just decide to not fight and become extinct? as though self-preservation isn't a thing? (to clarify, all efforts being put into preventing it in the past would have completely condemned the future, whereas their current plan would have benefitted both) And they had to send soldiers to the future because there was too few in the future to get anything done, and the present timeline had an investment in the success of the future so they could prevent it in theirs. Hopefully this doesn't come off rude, I just wanted to add emphasis so it came out clearly.
I would rather see the negative parts rather then trying to find good things in a bad movie, whats is the point? I mean it’s going to be negative because movies are shit now
My daughter and I watched this when it came out a few weeks ago, and we really enjoyed it. Yeah sure you could run a semi truck through the hole related to the time travel premise, but the action was crisp and we never felt bored. Also, kudos to the filmmakers for waiting at least 40 minutes until completely unveiling the creatures.
I love this movie. It’s actually a really good, exciting, emotionally charged, entertaining alien movie that actually shows the aliens. I’ve seen it several times and can always watch it without being burnt out or bored.
I don't get the hate this movie gets. I mean it wasn't a "masterpiece" but it sure as hell wasn't as bad as the critics panned it. It deserves a watch. Technically, it's a very good screenplay with thematic payoffs.
I think most of the hate comes from the giant plot holes and overall nothing making sense if you think about it acting and effects are good stories not
I think this movie is amazing. Most of the plotholes people bring up aren't plotholes at all if you really pay attention. Obviously it's not perfect, but it deserves more credit than most people are giving it, even the ones who liked it.
It's interesting to analyze the confusion in the comment section. Most people don't read the description, nor get the meaning of the content. "Film Perfection" is a good title for a series of analysis of movie aspects, and so is the subtitle for this one "how to build a cinematic masterpiece", emphasis on cinematic. But aside from that, I think the way it's portrayed like in the first 20 seconds of the video makes people assume the subject is a perfect masterpiece, when it's not really what you're trying to do here
Oh buddy. 'Film Perfection' in a hilarious Movie about Plot Holes and some Side-Quest about maybe Time-Traveling. Haha. No. This is an Ok-Movie at Best. But its riddled with Plot Hole Nonsense so bad that people all over the world make Fun of it.
Don't let the haters get to you, Filmento! I've found out that even the movies hyped by everybody and labeled "masterpieces" have issues which can be put out there and you are doing it in a way better than most. Keep the sarcasm coming!
Loving that Filmento is a clear Bioshock Infinite fan. He is always using visual and audio cues that throw me right back to some great early 2010s content. Keep up the great work, love this channel, very relatable.
This is the one of a very few movies I've seen in the last couple years that actually held my attention ("Fatherhood" bring another). I guess there are some plot holes, but none so bad that it ruined it for me. I really don't understand the hate on this movie, especially when compared to soooooooo many flops over past 2 years.
"none so bad", If they can send people to the past, they could Just capture some alien and evacuate everything they can to the past and prepare humanity for the invasion, thats much more effective than send untrained civilians to the Future, at least is what i think😉
@@mateusferraridemelo4863 this movie and me had one agreement: if it doesn't get too serious about the time travel, then I will be enjoying it... surprisingly it was a good exchange.
@@MrlspPrt If you say so, i'm going to try next time, recently i didn't even watch Black widow's movie to the end, because i was expecting something like the Bourne movies(🙁) I'll do like you did, thanks for the hint 😉🙂
@@mateusferraridemelo4863 yea I thought that too while watching, but then I thought what happens if they have another glitch and they drop it in a bad place. And then it kills someone they need in the future? Idk, it's really hard to rationalize time-travel, and we pretty much base our expectations/rationalizations on what movies and books from the past have established. So I just take all that with a grain of salt * shrug *
I watched this not having heard anything but a new chris pratt movie. Found it highly entertaining and engaging. Plot holes? Yeap, lots of them. Did it bother me? Nope!
also a lot of what you're thinking of as plot holes aren't truly plot holes. The story and universe are set up and shown in a way where it's not touched on but some combination of what we're shown and what we infer from the story that there are direct and indirect reasons for everything done in the film. I noticed a lot, I don't know of how many, but it doesn't matter, because what really matters is there was a lot of effort put in that netted some great results in story. And I think we can all agree and say more surprises like this would be nice!
This was a movie that kept reminding me that it was very bad in an objective sense, but that I also had a blast watching and was in no way upset about committing to.
@@metalben005 I do not see how that is an issue since the White Spikes didn't infect people with their bites, claws or spikes as they reproduced normally even if at the rate of rabbits, if not even doubble. Do you mean infection perhaps?
@@alessandrofedericogobber5634 I may have seen it wrong but in the beginning when they first arrive in the future we see people get hit with the spikes that the aliens shoot. The people who got hit quickly turned into white spikes
at 12:53 is one of the most gorgeous, cinematic shots ive ever seen. its beautiful. reminds me of the scene in Constantine when he collects the hospital tag from hell and then jumps back to earth.
Honestly, I love that you could take a movie that wasn't necessarily a great movie (but was enjoyable to sit and watch with my son on a Saturday night) and do a vid pointing out all the things they did right. I personally don't mind if your vids are tearing apart bad movies, 'cause it's still an informative way to understand what was done wrong. All that said, I wouldn't be opposed to you doing a two-part vid where one is all of the negatives, and the other is all of the positives. Or combining it into one vid and using the ol' count-o-meter to determine arbitrary value based on the number of good things done vs the number of bad things done. :P
Having a time machine and using it to import people from 30 years prior as cannon fodder, rather than using it to go back in time and defeat the enemy at the source or before it grows too powerful, is such a dumb idea that I thought there had to be a twist where the modern people were being tricked.
@@Zephanir I guess you forgot to realize that if Chris Pratt Science Teacher Man could figure it out, scientists in the future who were capable of inventing time travel probably would have before he did.
They DID go back in time to before the war started, but thats meaningless when the timelines are seperate, so preventing it in one timeline doesn't magically change theirs to be better, they say this explicitly in the movie. And the present timeline would have no way of combatting it in their world without fighting the war in the future to find the solution they can then use for themselves before the war happens.
The movie literally has TWO third acts and two endings and it pisses me off. First third act is getting the toxin and successfully going back to the past and then it starts the third act again with trying to find the alien ship and destroy it.
I read that there were apparently reshoots done at some point. Maybe it was supposed to end when Pratt's sent back, but Paramount chickened out when the realized that it probably wasn't gonna gross enough to guarantee a sequel when COVID hit?
@@The_Viktor_Reznov Why not (edit for clarification: Why can't you have 2 climaxes and resolutions)? would you rather it ended unresolved in the present timeline, potentially just leaving it as sequel bait? Or tying up the loose ends of the plot as it did, making it a more satisfying story?
You monster! I saw “cinematic masterpiece” and gave it a watch hoping to watch your video after so as not to spoil it for myself. Now it’s over two hours later and I’ve been bamboozled.
Exactly how I felt. The concept was great and the way they showed the psychological tole on a society that knows its doomed and the pain of war. Then the whole thing just turned into another novice movie for braindead audiences with horribly boring plot.
this happens way too often in filmmaking: they have an interesting concept, the rest doesn't matter. it seems they rather lose money than hiring a script doctor
The fact that ANYONE could sit through this whole movie without breaking something is astounding to me. The number of people who dumbly and numbly just passively sit through terrible movies without complaint grows exponentially every year. Clever writing, well-developed characters, and useful dialogue are just too much to ask for in your average "blockbuster" film. The same people who liked "Rise of Skywalker" because it "subverted" their expectations, and had enough pew pewing and their fav characters to stop them from hating it outright.
dude relax. you realise every single movie doesn't need to try to be perfect right? Movies like this aren't supposed to be taken so seriously. Its fun and full of action, it doesn't need to be a masterpiece
It was pretty good, the few time travel questions I had by the end were answered neatly The ending did not sugarcoat things with the way hero wanted things to go, which also a nice change!
You gotta hand it to filmento tho, this guy isn’t afraid of exposing his opinion. You need balls to put “perfection” and “The Tomorrow War” in the same phrase after criticizing Tenet
@@IgnusIncubus I know. Still, most people would just jump on the hate train and bash the movie as having nothing of worth. Filmento actually goes ahead and exposes the good and bad bits of each movie regardless of how they’re rated.
This movie Tomorrow War was a movie that a lot of people liked, was number one on Amazon for awhile. I thought it was very good. As you say the reason it was memorable was the family themes that ran underneath the plot of father and daughter, and son and older father and forgiveness. That part made it real and the stakes worth watching. It kept us guessing how each scene would end. This movie ranks up there with the 1990 movie of Terminator 2, when Sarah and son John Conner were introduced and Arnold's terminator becomes part of the team fighting for the future, and almost humanized that they shed a tear at the end of the movie when Arnold sacrifices himself at the end to try to stop the war.
I don't understand why you people keep calling it a time machine? It's more like a bridge that's connected to a time 30 years behind the future in a parallel notion much like a different timeline with the same event but might have different outcome. Hell, they even explained they didn't choose 30 years behind. It's what the damn junk gave them and they just roll with it.
Honestly, this movie sounds incredible from your highlights. Aside from the convenience of the bad things that happen (time portal positioning fail), I wonder what other things this movie does wrong to bring it down to just being an okay-ish film in terms of its ratings.
Honestly I had such a blast with it. Got sum cheesecake and beer to go with it🍻 and had the best time 😂 🔥 💯 it’s defo fun as hell, especially if u like time travel nonsense
The movie is a fun summer flick so you can safely go and watch it. If you focus on the events and how they occur, you will discover it has some pretty stupid and forced situations, but it is much more enjoyable and less dumb than Army of the Dead and even Godzilla vs King Kong.
Well if you think about it, if you time travel, you also have to consider the position of the earth in relation to time and space. Like the earth isn’t in the same position it was 6 months ago. So if you teleported 6 months ago, you would be a hotshot-cicle in space. Maybe there was a hasty miscalculation that put their current point when they started teleportation (on the ground) to the sky.
so glad to finally see someone who does not see the movie as a failure, enjoyed it but i see the points why most of the people dislike missing explanations and so on. Great video.
"missing explanations". Exactly, I have found at least half the problems critics have had with the movie aren't really or were clearly explained, but they just didn't pay good enough attention. Like when one critic kept referring to the toxin as a virus, and when they ask why they're using humvies in the future when they're becoming obsolete today. Well, there's less than 500,000 people left in the future, so all of the more high tech equipment would have been used up already or can't be replaced anymore. High tech equipment would likely require resources from hundreds of mines around the world. If most of the world is overrun, they simply can't replace them anymore and they instead turn to using the obsolete equipment that's still around in high numbers that they don't have to build themselves. I think the line should have been at least "hundreds of thousands" instead of "thousands every week" going into the future. The United States alone was shown to have 26 million dead, which would be at least 37.14 million sent into the future. They started out with 1,000 sent the first week. If they increased that number every week, then it's likely the United States would have been sending roughly 1.5 million on the wave we see on the movie. They should have had at least a couple of references to what everyone else sent through was doing. Besides that point, we would know it's at least tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions dead who were sent to the future. The wave we see in the movie is the last ditch effort to somehow bring a victory in a hopeless situation. The world already see themselves as dead at that point. I'm sure they started with the standard 10 weeks of training new draftees, but then as things got worse in the future, they'd start training for a shorter and shorter period of time in an effort to increase the numbers in the future. Given how many people sent to the future died. I would put the future population somewhere between 150 million to 300 million at the time they appeared on the soccer field. So having less than 500,000 left in the future could say they are literally days from being wiped. Then there's the time travel aspect. Critics are always asking why they didn't go to an earlier time or jump tanks and aircraft into the future. Well, besides it requiring 22 weeks of training for a tank operator and a year for a fighter pilot, I'd say they simply didn't have the time to train people to operate them, especially with the recruits being in their 40's on average, and older people typically would require more training than the young would. A coworker of mine is in his 50's or 60's, and I have to explain the simplest parts of the job to him almost every day. The military doesn't have that kind of time to train people. Also, you wouldn't want your best equipment being easily lost by an operator who just can't learn everything to operate it well. They also explain they can't change what time they went back. They probably didn't choose that precise year to travel back to. They describe the time jump equipment as being held together with things like chewing gum and chicken wire, and that if it wasn't an end of the world scenario they'd still be testing with rats. Therefore the time jump equipment I would expect could easily have thousands of malfunctions in that one year time frame. Another beef they have with the time travel, is they say it's a paradox that the future doesn't already contain the changes Dan will make after he gets back to his own time. To which my response is, why would he make any changes in the first place unless he learns what originally occurred in the timeline? You have to learn of things you want to change to make any changes. So in my opinion, the changes he'd make wouldn't happen until after he returns to his own time. Anyway, I've blabbed for long enough right now I guess.
At this point hearing that Paramount looked at the finished film and said "no one will like this" is the least surprising of all of this. I'm just glad it got made and I got to see it! And I hope it helps more new ventures be pursued.
The only thing I liked with The Tomorrow War was the reveal of the monster. One of the coolest most unsettling reveals I've seen in awhile. That creepy heavy breathing.
Now, this is mo masterpiece, HOWEVER, for as cliche that each and every part of this movie (bar the ending) might be, it manages to be enjoyable, and although its message its as cliché as it might get, it is still very well delivered. This is the kind of movies that you will not watch 100.000.000 times, but wont feel like you had wasted your time that one time you watched it, so yeah, its pretty good/decent
Part of it was enjoyable, but I just couldn't get past all the glaring stupid plot decisions. I just couldn't concentrate on the movie, they completely threw me out of the immersion...
One of two things should happen to this film if the studio wanted it: -A sequel to find whose ship was that -A series to better develop other characters
A new film set decades further in the future where the aliens show up and attack. (Cause then humans might stand a bit better of a chance to fight, but the opponent is also way tougher)
I stopped watching this film early on. Just seemed unbelievably weird that the world would send so many people to fight in a war that they hardly know exists and have only known about through what the time travellers tell them
True. And there was no reason for them to travel into the future. They could have just spent the next 20 years building an army and weapons that could defeat the aliens. Or they could have just brought back an alien from the future so they could study his biology, find weaknesses, and create a biological weapon that would kill all the aliens. When you have a time machine, you literally have all the time in the world.
They could have given us a reason for travelling into the future, but didn't bother. I think if the screenwriter had spent some time reading military and time travel SF, and done some basic research about biology, weather, military tactics and human psychology, this could have been a much better film. It was fine, but it could have been great.
Present Timeline people have survived and come back, so there is proof its happening, and the future people knew enough of the present's near-future to prove accurate enough to believe it'd happen to them too. And sending present people to the future so they can last long enough to find a solution that benefits the past makes way more sense than starting from scratch when it happens to the past timeline.
@@nerychristian But they didn't have any way to defeat the aliens even with all the army and weapons of the world, Adding more useless weaponry doesn't make the weaponry less ineffective. And bringing an alien back to the past only risks the past, and is useless when they've studied the males and given that info to the past, but haven't been able to capture a queen and need manpower from the past to do that. They didn't have all the time in the world though, the bridge between timelines meant that the timelines progrssed concurrently, so a second spent in the past is a second spent in the future AND vice versa, so the 7 days Chris Pratt spent in the future meant he returned 7 days after he left. And they may have made another better time machine, but would have no way of knowing how to connect to that specific timeline. They could have made a time machine that connected randomly to another timeline in the past that doesn't benefit them, it was more beneficial for the short timespan they had left to focus on the timeline they had already been connected to and focus on the solution they did.
@@DJSockmonkeyMusic But they did give a reason though? The future was on the verge of discovering a method to win the war that hadn't started in the past yet, but had not enough manpower. The past had the manpower, but no access to information about the war that hadn't started yet, and it was more practical to have the future figure out a solution instead of the past ignoring them and starting from scratch when the war starts for them, they would instead be prepared. Surely thats a clear enough reason?
For the teleporting bit, I kinda just assumed the reason for the malfunction was because there time travel tech was never really given the chance to be perfected and get all the bugs fixed because of the war hence the chicken wire line
The movie had its issues. That being said, it's an easy watch with some solid moments. A lot more then you can say for most of the movies these days. Apparently a sequel is in the works. Not sure where they could take the story, but would definitely watch it...
Personally, I need a prequel.. I would love to see the explanation on how these creatures built a spaceship.. Mofo's have master intergalactic travel yet only dig holes to live in on our planet?
I think it’s hinted in the spaceship that it was never meant for Earth, meaning there are likely at least two other alien filled planets likely at war. Earth was just an innocent unintended victim.
@@darktheories1758 Space ship belonged to the dead aliens who died in the crash, Whitespikes were cargo. Rewatch the spaceship exploring part of the movie
If they are making another I would prefer not to have an hour wasted on usless stuff like this one was in the beginning casue it made no sense why the main character would want to save is future daughter when he would get sent back to his younger daughter with the virus. And the plot line of his future daughter wanting to see him again and. Being upset that he died and now hes in front of her would be a better start to the movie in my opinion seeing the life of where he died and now hes back and that would change the movie to anothe point of view
@@darktheories1758 they were doing a The Thing, thing. The Whitespikes were being transported by a more advanced race, before they attacked said race and crashed their ship into Earth.
Since my channel may have been a bit too consistently negative recently, here's my best effort to switch things up for you guys! /s
This would be the perfect video if u just instead made a tiny difference, change tomorrow war to Spider-Man 3 then ur video will also be a cinematic masterpiece
But this movie was very meh.
@@abdulazizmerdad4093 perhaps for you I'll try when I get to it lol
This movie is a MASTERPIECE of shit. 😂😂
I love the way people get so confused by the titles and don't even bother to see and understand the content... Filmento, we don't deserve you.
Imagine terminator... John connor goes to the past and say: "Come on people, lets go to the future fight these machines, will be just fine..."
Or he tells the government just to shut down Skynet.
But they don't know where they came from so that is the next best option.
@@bagel4123 No, the bestb option is to tell the people in the past all you know about the enemy and hope THEY can find a better way to win.
Because the future is already lost, no matter how you slice it. Hell, the movie practically show the future being overrun in the end. All they did was wastes hundreds of thousands of lives. And, if the movie was more realistic, it would have all been for nothing because you don't create a 100% effective anti-alien serum just like that in an afternoon.
Realistically, the future just straight up hands over everything to the past, tells them what they learned of the aliens, where they appeared (yes, they didn't know the exact location but they fucking knew it was somewhere in a specific region in russia. We've been able to work with less. Hell, a band of nobodies with no ressources were able to find them in months and you're trying to tell me that the literal entire world would have been unable to?), hands over the research and all advance they made in technology and then have the past actually discover how to beat them
@@randomdude3578 They did do that later and they didn't believe it. Even if they did they wouldn't know where to look because they didn't know where they came from until the characters figured it out
You'll all get nuked anyway!
Seeing "PERFECT" in red was so confusing, not gonna lie
It’s like seeing a green stop sign
Stroop effect
Cinematic masterpiece; dramatic nightmare?
Same !!
Seeing that next to this movie was confusing
I really liked the "exposition dump" at the beginning. With that phone interview during the party you got the whole background, motivations and relationships of the main protagonist in a few minutes. You feel bad for him not getting the job even he is seemingly a good candidate, has a family and wants to grow into something more than a high school teacher. This way they showed it instead of just telling. That was some smart writing. The plausibility of an American neigbourhood having a soccer world cup party is another thing...
I think it's cause, soccer is the most watched sport in the world, and a FIFA World Cup final's game will have hundreds of millions, maybe even billions of people watching (2018 had over 1 billion viewers). The future army arriving at the soccer field is actually perfect to broadcast their message to as many people as they can at the same time on live TV. So yeah, it has to be a soccer game that they're watching, haha.
yes they should be watching upper-limb egg-ball because that has worldwide coverage... Using world cup as the medium was genius,. The plausibility of Brazil in the final is another thing...
that’s not show don’t tell lmao. don’t forget that as soon as he rages from not getting the job the draft begins, giving him basically another private military contract.
MrCOPYPASTE using world cup as their device for the announcement would’ve led to nobody in america seeing it. it’s part of a trend to make american films more worldly or palatable to other countries. not a genius decision at all, an incredibly simple one that makes a little bit of sense considering soccer is far more viewed worldwide, until you realize the movie is set in america, and the scene requires you to believe 30 americans gathered to watch this.
@@obscure.reference I don't believe you... I know for a fact that a lot of Americans watch big events like the world cup. Probably not as in the rest of the world, ,but a lot. Alas genius
Chris Pratt: Punches a Queen alien.
Chris Redfield wants to recruit you into the punching big things club.
Chris Pratt can play Chris if there will be a proper RE movie reboot though with the personality he fits Barry Burton better
He needs a title like "that boulder punching a**hole!!"
BAHAHAHA
Is Will Smith already in the club?
Ellen Ripley and Will Smith's character from Independence Day:
Welcome to the club!
Chris: You killed my daughter!
Past Alien: I don't even know who you are.
Chris: You will...
Haha these comments are Gold🤣👌
The day the aliens graced your planet was the most important day of your lives. But for me, it was Tuesday.
The White Spikes are so menacing because the designers understood one thing: Kinaesthetics.
Those things have a visible weight and momentum, while being terrifyingly agile and absolutely relentless. The Result is a monster that looks and feels like a "ninja tank" that onlky knows how to advance, advance, advance. Utterly brilliant.
I dont know. I think they kinda ripped off Edge of Tomorrow's aliens in a way
@@Rehd66 Well the EoT Aliens were kinda just Shadow monsters.
I can see the similarity but unless You look at them side by side they are different.
And they remind me a lot of the Cloverfield monster and a quiet place aliens
I see some similarities in those monsters in the Chinese movie called The Great Wall (2017). They eat humans, huge numbers and attacks in big groups.
"Objectively the greatest film in the history of cinema of all times... At least until next week"
-the critics with every MCU related movie/series
The MCU is overrated as fuck, it gets praised way too much than it normally should.
@@Spidey-oi5sn Comics are one of those things people can use to hold on to their childhood so companies use that to manipulate people. The MCU is almost religious in how people see it.
@@Spidey-oi5sn LMAO NOT at all. The MCU is NOT "overrated as fuck" in the slightest. People don't blindly praise ever single marvel move that comes out, and people have criticized other films like black widow that alot of others were hyped for but don't
Overall tho, the MCU deserves it's praise as it's able to make consistently good fun enjoyable movies that are fun to watch with it's iconic characters and cast they built up to even with some hit and miss movies.
@@Gadget-Walkmen found the MCU Stan.
Fans, anytime, everywhere.
Your opinion takes me by surprise every time man
@@SPDRM some people can’t suspend their disbelief long enough for this movie, including me
This is not his actual opinion, he needs to surprise you in order for you to keep watching.
The title is obvious just a joke. It's clearly not a "cinematic masterpiece" at all. He just pull lessons from it asa an overall GUIDELINE to it all.
@@afattaco7278 I don't think he lies. He just decided to point out what is good in a terrible movie for a change. He says is again and again, he is not a movie critic.
@@SPDRM he never said if his opinion was agreeing with filmento or disagreeing
Even the high schoolers Dan teaching seems exhausted and desperate due to how their family got drafted in the war. Yeah, this movie is not really about the alien they're fighting, but about the fight and the war itself. How it affects the individuals involved and their families.
Yes!! Alsi can you blame the kids cause for them, "im going to die in 29 years so whats the point trying to get a life when it will be taken away at the peek".
That's just your average student
Your channel being negative lately is not on you, it's on the movie industry that is majorly producing low quality projects. I love the channel quality and your approach on the projects. As long as you keep your integrity I am fine with your take.
Or it’s on him for mostly tuning into trash shit that isn’t challenging or interesting
@@milanxlewis the movies he’s critiqued recently have been mostly big movies that drew a lot of attention. Those movies just happen to be bad therefore he has the right to make negative videos on them. It ain’t on him idiot
@@milanxlewis I find his videos topic interesting : he mostly deconstruct why movie doesn't work and propose how to make them better.
He isn't there to review them.
I think people have the wrong expectation for the channel.
And I guess it also doesn't help that say a first time viewer will see the word "failure" in the thumbnail and think that his videos are nothing but rants
@@rileyhawthorne1068 who said he didn't "have the right"? He's still choosing to make videos on shit as opposed to looking for films that are known to be actually thoughtful or challenging.
The entire Miami section is basically just “current objective: survive”
^^This is great
PRESS X TO NOT DIE
I understood that reference.
The objective of every soldier in every war :/
@@kobold7964 You don't really need to in this case.
The only things I wanna say is that I love the amount of violence and whatnot and how satisfying it is, and how the movie shows off a ton of wide shots and gives you everything going on, not even with the characters. I love it
My favorite scene of the movie is when the Protagonist goes back to the present and see his daugther.
The face of pure shock and terror man, it was quite shocking.
@CatsKalambur Yeah, I liked that as well, however it seemed like a short term thing as it wasn't displayed throughout the mid/end of the movie.
@@sammylee5474 if it was a series, I think it would've had that, but it didn't have enough time to explore the different facets of that and I feel like it showed enough with what time it had left.
My favorite part of Tomorrow War is the design of the Aliens themselves, a mix of the armor the Quiet Place creatures and a Grievor from The Maze Runner
You mean the blatant carbon copies of the Cryptids from Call of Duty: Ghosts?
Easily the coolest part of the film. That one shot where they’re literally swarming over each other in an endless sea is rad as fuck.
@@halfmettlealchemist8076 100% agreed
@@MumRah357
Is that so? I didn’t play ghost much and didn’t do the invasion mode…
@@halfmettlealchemist8076
Reminded me of WWZ’s zombies swarming eachother
I loved this movie, it has MANY small faults but when looking at it as a whole I think they did good. It won't win any awards and will probably be forgotten by everyone by the end of the year but I don't care, I'm a sucker for Sci fi violence.
U should watch CHAPPIE then!
sorry to bother but do you mind tellin me all at least some of the faults/plot holes? im a very casual viewer and see shit movies like greenlantern as a good movie
@@kataki7p21 so i guess u might've loved Venom 2 ? Right?
@@kataki7p21 It has been six months since I saw the movie, so I have forgotten all the small details I had gripes to be honest. If I am in the mood to rewatch it and remember this comment (I probably won't) then I will update you.
The two things I do remember is that the little speech when the people from the future revealed themself at soccer match was kinda Cringe and the reasoning for the time machine yeeting people off the edge of the building was BARELY explained.
I have no problem with that last point because they did infact explain it but with a single line easily forgotten line.
God, I need to learn to write shorter responses.
@@kataki7p21 Yeah that's how I am too. I just enjoy movies for what they are. I don't really hate or dislike movies unless I'm bored but even then it's not like there's a story reason for it.
The movie had MANY plot holes, but the subplot of fatherly abandonment due to combat PTSD was surprisingly powerful and the unexpected third act with the alien ship and the monsters being in the cargo hold as an invasion force was really interesting. The movie was wrapped up with an emotional pay-off that was well earned. I couldn't say the same for so many other movies
This is a shut off your brain popcorn movie that is competent so long as you don't think about it too much. Nothing inherently wrong with that. There are plenty of bad movies that I enjoy watching. Heck, I watch Riddick every time it is on TV and it is late at night and I can't sleep. However, it is not some sort of cinematic masterpiece.
@@chuckhoyle1211 It is some kind of movie that makes you hate the protagonist, because they are the true villain, just like any other cinematic movie
@@chuckhoyle1211 exactly, it serves its main purpose: entertain without preaching.
the movie was saved by its acting crew tbh. because of it wasnt for the acting the emotional and ptsd scenes wouldnt hit that hard. the plotgoles of this movie is just too large as Chuck Hoyle said this is one of those "dont think about it too much" and i honestly agree with it. i think it satifies people who havent watched that many shows or movies because they usually tend to skip over the plotholes and just docus onto the emotional and fighting scenes
over all for me its a 7.5/10 (probably since the "cheap" emotional scenes dosent work for me anymore)
edit: was on mobile so sorry for the soelling
Can you explain to me the plot holes? What're the many?
I still don't understand how the military had air support, but didn't yeet the aliens from a distance🤣🤣🤣!!!
That right there is the biggest plot hole. We would have destroyed them almost entirely using ONLY air power alone. That is, if they didnt blitz our airbases and freaking wreak havoc on our war materiel.
like in world war z? lol
I mean fuel isnt unlimited and you have to manage supply lines on the ground, bullets are also limited and humanity surviving in a few dozen helicopters needing to land eventually whilst the surface gets wiped out isnt ideal
they do have certain areas that are safe i guess, but the main issue was that they breed like rabbits and attacked all at once without warning, so realistically it would be the best strategy shy of bombs (which they also used) but it wouldn't be sustainable for that long or prevent them overwhelming cities
EDIT: And that's just the normal white spikes, I forgot until watching this video that they can actually also fly like flying squirrels if they need to, and also they were named after their spikes which seem to be no joke, I fully believe between flying and infesting buildings they'd be able to shoot or claw down a helicopter fairly easily if it tried to get close enough to shoot anything on the ground accurately
And you guys apparently HAVEN'T WATCHED THE MOVIE! The movie explains the aliens were there FOR A LONG TIME, FROZEN.
@@TywinLannister666 In the beginning of the movie, they had an F15 or sumthin do a tactical sweep of the area the ground troops were engaged!!! So they brought people from the past, to do a ground assault for 10mins, only to be told they have 10mins to evacuate because we are gonna send a jet to drop a bomb!!! REALLY😂😂😂!!!! Bsides those Aliens clearly fall on the "Species too stupid to exist" category cz any competent army general wld have layed a trap by concentrating the aliens to 1 place & nuke em!!! Its too easy!!!
I think that the reason the critics hate this movie so much is that the central thesis is that Dan's best life is with his wife, daughter, and father. Started the movie thinking that he was destined for something greater, but there's no greater roles that Dan could aspire to than 'Son', 'Husband', and 'Father', which is where he ends the movie.
I think the reason they hated it is because the plot makes no sense but maybe I’m alone in that.
@@russman3787 The plot of 'Rise of Skywalker' made no sense, either, but the critics LOVED IT!
Even when you're dogging on a flick, though, you're talking about the means by which it could have been better. I, for one, value that.
Comma, much?
Scotty Lew sometimes commas, even when grammatically correct, are unnecessary.
@@saber_1113 The 2 commas between "flick" and "you're" are sorta awkward.
The commas for the phrase "I, for one, " are important though, because they make the idiom easier to understand
@@crusadr_4966 The commas around "though" are important, too. Because I'm not saying "though you're talking..."
I may abuse commas sometimes, but that sentence wasn't one of those times.
@@AndaraBledin Oh I see now HAHA sorry about the misunderstanding
You're not negative you're truthful. No movies is perfct but there's a lot of shit being made now
Totally agree
Was this video satire?
@@theredbanana6265 The problem is that that's a legitimate question.
That’s facts, movie quality has been dramatically downgraded the last 5-10 yrs
@@se7enhaender I've been trying to get some kind of consensus from filmento's regulars....but nobody can answer. Seems like cinemawins to me, outright exaggerate or lie to praise the movie
I wanna piece up whoever chose the change the name from “ghost draft” (badass) to “the tomorrow war” (sounds like a movie that would play in gta/ a cartoon)
I'm guessing it was probably some business exec that thought if they call it "the tomorrow war", it would be easy enough for foreign countries to not have to translate the name, and can understand the title. Like in japan, the title is literally "the tomorrow war" in katakana (japanese pronunciation of english).
The name makes me think of the Forever War bokks and not the actual movie.
Same guys that changed the name of live.die.repeat to edge of tomorrow
@@miming3679 which was also dumb as hell
True
This is the ultimate “had us in the first half, not gonna lie”
what leads you to believe this is a bait-and-switch?
he actually really likes the movie
@@alexandersong5753 there’s no way that’s what he meant. Would have said “that” and not “this”
@@alexandersong5753 also, character’s plans not going accordingly isn’t a plot twist
@@johnblunt1313 well I mean using "this" would still work in relation to the movie look
Yep, this movie was trash
One thing I'll say about the film is that the creatures were pretty dope.
It reminds me of that one monster from love death and robots
Yeah they were kinda hot
Yes! their guns are inborn, and they can strategize on the fly..
Yes the alines were pretty good
@@evergarden8592 📸🤨
This movie is serious when someone said *”OH SHIT! OH SHIT! OH SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT…”* in front of aliens that is about to take out the whole squad.
_Wait a minute…_
Sounds like a natural reaction to a hostile predator you've never encountered before aggressively attacking and successfully incapacitating your companions.
I hope you got invited to the "One Villainous Scene"-thing...
Ooh noo!!!
I thought everyone was invited, or allowed to be part of the playlist.
Probably the best chance someone dose Davy Jones
Whats that about? I just saw 2 videos with that title.
@@harshgala6256 Nando v Movies has an open invite thing for vids focusing on a topic: This time around, it's a Villainous Scene.
Playlist here: ua-cam.com/play/PLd7v7nQLQGwJBoBF_5A1oGIbVh125hkaW.html
Totally worth the watch.
I will not lie, the moment when she removed her own hand surprised me greatly.
That was one of my favorite "Oh Frick" moments I have had in a while
i clicked on this vid then decided to watch the movie first when i got to that scene i actually thought theyd ultimately fail due to that
Oh buddy.
'Film Perfection' in a hilarious Movie
about Plot Holes and some Side-Quest about maybe Time-Traveling.
Haha. No.
This is an Ok-Movie at Best. But its riddled with Plot Hole Nonsense
so bad that people all over the world make Fun of it.
Which moment do you mean? I mustve missed it
@@CasualCube0 near the end when Dan and his dad are fighting the Queen and Dan infected it with the toxin in it's arm so everyone thought they'd won until the Queen ripped out it's own arm to make sure the toxin didn't spread
Honestly, I bet one of the reasons people didn’t like this movie is based on your first main praise. The continual changing and negative “deals”. Because it all depends on the interpretation. You obviously went with the positive, but it’s very easy to see it negatively.
It also looks a lot like continual failure. With the protagonists never succeeding, tho not necessarily their fault. All of those “deal” changing events can also be described as the group failing to complete their objective. What makes it worse is that a lot of the time, it isn’t the people’s faults, it’s the plot.
The plot is continually making all of the goals and expectations impossible, which sucks. If it was just the people being not good enough, we could expect them to get better, that they could have done better, but no. The early deployment, bad landing, inept government, overrun science base, useless water base, etc.. All of this was already compromised before the protagonists entered the scene. And what does that mean?
That those plot elements didn’t matter. That the people were useless. That no matter how good the characters were, this missions were never going to be completed. If a plot element plays out the same way with or without the protagonists, then it’s essentially just filler and a waste of time, for the characters and the viewers.
Obviously, this is the negative interpretation. But both this one and filmento’s are perfectly valid, it all depends on the viewer.
But isn't that how life is, this film was way more realistic than others of this genre in regards to failing.
@@Jaykmrch -sure, but again, preferences. Do people go to movies to see how realistic life is via failures? No, they went there for entertainment. Which, again, is subjective. So the “heightened” realism makes it better for some, worse for others.
he is just being sarcastic
more and more new film are bad, so he needs to change how he make vids
or ppl would only knew him as reviewer thats always bad reviewing a film XD
A lot of people politicized it because like Trump, "Chris Pratt bad!"
It should be noted that they made two black men as survivors of the MC's team, and they survive to the end, and even help SAVE the world!!! One does a self-sacrifice because "I'm dying of Cancer, I'm going to die MY WAY! *BOOM!*" Killed 99.999% of all the aliens right there. The second black man was a scientist and CEO, and you know what happens? He goes from Coward "I hid..." to LITERAL being a BOSS with a melee-ing a monster in the brains with a saw!
Then there's Vietnam veteran "CONSPIRACY SANTA" who proves his skills in Nam were well paid off in the film.
@@1_atlas_7 i think the negative deals help the movie showing how actually we are fighting a losing war and why, so with every step forward there are 10 backwards Just like halo reach, don't know if you plaied the game. And this kind of stuff it's usefull to show off exactly why we are losing and how our enemy Is so lethal
Filmento, I feel like you should make another category called a cinematic meh, something that isn’t a failure but isn’t film perfection either
Edit: Thx for all the likes! This is the most I’ve ever gotten!
I want this now!
But that's not a meh, it's an okay tho. Meh sounds more negative.
@@grimlock1440 yeah I guess so, but I still think he should make another category
The ptsd is excellently portrayed in this movie.
@@therealfilmnerd I think you’re taking it too seriously.
That staircase scene is so good, the reveal was so scary and they looked great. I had no clue this was going to have aliens (context, I only saw a brief commercial on TV where they come into the stadium so I assumed it was humans from now fighting humans in the future)
This movie is underrated just like VENOM 2018 & CHAPPIE.
Not to mention the scary yet comical, "Oh shit shit shit shit shit!" 😂😆
The CG took me out of the movie right away. They don't feel threatening just fake.
That scene us legit my favorite scene of all time
I laughed a lot at tht scene.
It was illogical and if they kept at their same pace, they would have died to the air strike 😂
Besides the need to be in a hurry, they shine a light at the white claws and the black dude yells at his squad Mates, gaining the attention of these monsters.
At rhe end of the scene, we met with tht 1v1 scene with chris pratt and the monster and the other black guy helps him at the end. He explains tp chris hoe to beat them and I couldn't stop laughing thinking why he just didnt tell the rest this information
Whoa, that small frame reveal in 13:44 and the music and how they blend so much that, it produces so much emotion and tension. That right there is a masterpiece. If they even just fix the plot holes properly, this movie would be clearly one of the greatest movie of all time sci-fi monster genre.
I REALLY wanted to like it, it has so many good things in it. Just also so many bad things.
Unfortunately that's not actually part of the movie. That was Filmento editing that in. The music is from Captain America: Civil war and the frame is just an edit.
I love how you always have something to add to these discussions of movies. Everyone has been ripping this movie apart with its plot holes. Yet here you are discussing the themes and the message of the movie. Im happy to see you giving the movie credit where credit is due. I look forward to seeing the next perfect movie that you decide to "review"
It also didn't try to shove an agenda down our throats.
The Critical Drinker was also benevolent with this movie, I watched it with very low expectations, but watching a competent scientist being inspired by her father, who was also white and straight was a refreshing idea in 2021.
@@MrlspPrt Signed, a white guy.
Oh buddy.
'Film Perfection' in a hilarious Movie
about Plot Holes and some Side-Quest about maybe Time-Traveling.
Haha. No.
This is an Ok-Movie at Best. But its riddled with Plot Hole Nonsense
so bad that people all over the world make Fun of it.
In my day, we just called this Clickbait..
Masterpiece? No, fun to watch? Yes.
Maybe it exceeds the gray area of being a failure that's why It's categorized on Masterpiece.
@@mikeoxlong7607 interesting way to look at it
It's one of those movies when it ends you don't know what to feel about it.
You didn't hate it, and you didn't love it.
It's just weird.
The masterpiece thing is just a joke.
The movie was utter shit, no grey area
Indeed, this "altering the deal" concept made the movie unexpectedly exiting and tense on a random Tuesday night with Amazon - thanks a lot for making this visible and clear to me
This movie has something for everyone. For all the great things you can praise it for, there are also a bunch of ways to nitpick it apart for all the flaws.
"nitpick"
of which there are many, to me the movie felt like how Knots Berry Farm is. Some professional aspects mixed with attractions you'd find in a carnival. Anything with the monsters attacking was top tier, anything to do with the human army was low bar.
More like butcher considering how large they are
Pointing out that the whole story doesn't make any sense whatsoever isn't "nitpick"
I think Filmento was nicer to this movie than I could've expected. It was a lot of blatant plot convenience and poor character writing. I think the movie took a turn for the better during the second half which I actually think was really interesting and entertaining but for somebody like Filmento I'd expect him to be way more critical
"This part of the movie was poorly executed"
"How you dare speak bad of this masterpiece?!"
"This aspect of the movie is the best of cinema"
"How dare to give a perfect score to this trashy movie?!"
Everyone's *un*happy
Its an Ok-Movie. Barely.
because both statements are wrong , the movie is ok at best ,still enjoy it.
This movie at plot wise is ok but it’s just fun and enjoyable to watch
Bro, I watched "love and Monsters" on your recommendation and it was baddass! I also watched "monster hunter world" even though you said it was a poor movie. You were right on both counts! You haven't been negative, you've been honest. The only reason you've given negative feed back is because they keep churning out rubbish movies. Someone needs to call them out for this, and you have been a great job! Don't listen to people who say "you're being negative" just keep being honest and you'll keep the watchers who consistantly watch your content. Keep it up bro, stay true and keep it real. That's all most of us want. Thank you for your hard work.
The “drop” was absolutely explained, you can hear them yelling that the time link was breaking. The landing zone ended up being shot. They pre-established that when explaining why they have limited choices to when they go to, when they said the tech isn’t perfected and was being held together with duct tape. We don’t need to hear the detailed explanation of why the quantum fluctuations of the Einstein Rosen bridge wasn’t stable because the dark energy powering it couldn’t be harnessed without the power of a magnetar… see how that sentence for super boring real quick?
One of the reasons I liked it was so many things in the movie weren't handed but delivered by contextual clues, like did you notice that virtually all the pilots were not from the future?
Yeah my problem with the drop is the pool landing. Sorry Pratt, you’re dead from that height.
@@balthier1706 I choose to see these insane bouts of luck as we the audience getting to see the one person that DOES make it in a sea of corpses, because for almost the entirety of the battalion being sent, and most of all other forces deployed, there's the exact outcome we would expect in this situation: Instant death. The same thing happens in many other movies such as World War Z, where we follow the one character who through sheer luck at times manages to survive it all, because following anyone else would mean a very short and unfulfilling movie. I do understand the issue with surface tension, but asuming there's a 1% chance of survival, through a combination of the gear and other corpses breaking the surface tension just enough to prevent Pratt from dying, in the context of all the other soldiers who died or where so terribly crippled that they quickly became Alien chowder, it makes sense that at least one person would survive the drop, or in the case of the movie, less than a dozen soldiers. It's kind of like the list of people who've survived falling from a plane without a parachute: The odds of survival are almost zero, but with enough "attempts", the improbable becomes a believable possibility, which is what this movie is about.
@@estebanpineros9409 they could just have easily had the battalion land safely and killed some other way. Maybe the glitch caused them to land scattered and isolated. You could hear over the comms as each group is picked off as they all try desperately to regroup. It adds tension, a proper assessment of the threat, and when the monster reveal finally comes into play, you have a full sense of how dangerous these things are. Idk man. Falling a thousand feet to land in a pool would have killed him. There isn’t enough water. “Luck” isn’t even a factor.
True
And this was the moment I knew that Filmento doesn't care about logical consistency or realism....
It's a bit passable, but the movie is actually good. Love how the protagonist's future daughter's acting made the story very serious both in matters of personal and world level.
The movie was very very average. Bearable at best. Acting was bad and it just wan't entertaining. Action bad. Tense sequences bad. Everything bad. Even Chris Pratt was bad.
@@bevanmcnicholl2525 in comparison to other recent releases, this junk is better than the others.
@@vojacked305 Suicide Squad, Jungle Cruise, Cruella (Yup even this is better), Wrath of man, A Quiet Place Part 2, Nobody, The Father and hell even Fast and Furious 9 was better than the tomorrow war. This junk is the worst of the lot
It took like an hour for anything to happen.
it was absolutely appallingly bad
The way they revealed the aliens during the stairs scene was great/intense!
I also knew Filmento liked it, cuz he always complains about how bad movies reveal the monsters the wrong way or at the wrong time.
I like how you open my mind to the fact that somewhere in this ordinary movie there is the seed of something great. There were a lot of neat ideas lost in the rush to keep things moving. The only movie that was able to achieve that was Fury road.
I think people dont watch your videos at all...they are just offended by the title
Filmento never said black widow is bad, he just pointed out why it may have failed as a spy thriller movie
Filmento never said quiet place 2 is bad, he just said ut didnt follow the same path as quiet place, and it didnt feel like a proper sequel
Doesn't mean these movies are bad
His "Film perfection" and "Anatomy of failure" are just video titles....they dont necessarily indicate if a movie is bad or not
Perfectly said ^^^
the internet lost the ability for nuanced discussion. The only thing people want is to know how many stars the thing deserves and it better be a 5 star scale, 10 is already too complicated.
1. You are right on both counts. Just because _Quiet Place 2_ is a retread doesn't stop it from being one of the best *ACTION* movies of the year. (I don't think it's horror anymore.)
2. While not in any way bad, _Black Widow_ *did* feel lacking to me. And wouldn't ya know it, Filmento helped me to figure out _why._
I do think BW was super dissapointing though lol
I like how many people commented their entire opinion on this video without even watching 1 minute into the video.
I actually really liked this movie. There’s not many movies that have alien invasion plots that I enjoy. But the theme of parents doing things for the children’s future and forgiveness makes the movie the more better
Definitely
You lost me at “more better”.
Haha that aside, the plot holes and nonsensical choices really killed it for me. The message of parents sacrificing for their kids was touching for sure, but that doesn’t save the movie
@@protoman1214I understand. But I still personally really like it. Just rewatched it not too long ago
Rewatched it and realized that this is the closest we've gotten to 80s era action films surprisingly laden with heavy and complex themes by competent filmmakers who knew exactly what they were going for. It felt nostalgic to the days when films were an escape, and i want more.
Same here
Pissed my pants you got me laughing so hard. This is not on par with Commando, Die Hard, or any other awesome 80s action flick
@@Myytzlplk hey said the closest and he has a point movie today are mostly garbage and I love movies makes me sad
No modern politics shoved in/ no belittling the white male characters to raise up the females/ a strong father daughter connection yeah I get that
I was so refreshed from this film not being another attempt at pandering/hypocritically lecturing at people that I enjoyed this movie far more than I thought I would.
Unlike alot of films released nowadays. Especially Jolt.
@@TommyCollier at least it isn't another "white man bad"
Yes, god forbid a film have an agenda.
@@INFILTR8US yes.
@@TommyCollier Climate change is not treated as humanity's fault ,just a thing that would happen ,the creatures were already there ,so nah.
It has a ton of issues, mainly plot holes, but honestly I love this movie, watch it all the time, love the setting, love the monsters, the comedic releif is over the top but not really annoying about it, the way the supporting characters are portrayed is super nice, the movie makes it clear that barely any of them are soldiers , most are just moms, dads, sons and daughters pulled into a fight against an unknown enemy, the bigger guy stumbles on his words when he's nervous, the lady screams in bravery and fear when she and the bigger guy try to hold off the whitespikes, that's some great character and so easy to do. This movie felt like a video game, where the story isn't as crucial as the gameplay, and I feel like this movie nailed the world and gameplay.
Tell me why you've done a better job concisely critiquing this movie than any of these living room critics, when you've obviously learned it from listening to them?🤔
@The_Com-Mentor People pretty commonly dislike this movie, which I guess I can understand. I came across a video that highlighted the things I liked about it, being someone who plays games a lot, I appreciate it's feel, approach and execution, just the same way I do with Edge of Tomorrow. If it lines up with stuff you've heard from other people, cool, I don't really care, I just wanted to express my feelings about a movie I like. I don't see why that has to be a problem with some random other person like you.
@@ZephyrusAsmodeus if ur a female, I meant no disrespect, I was just highlighting how u captured the greatness of the movie without a long-winded dissertation.
Sending soldiers to fight a war in the future instead of just preventing said war is characters making unbelievable decisions. It doesn't allow you to absorb the emotional context of the the parent/child scenes...
Well, they had no idea how to prevent the war.
That makes it even more unbelievable that officials would reject to help when there is actually a way to prevent that war.
The final part ruined the movie for me.
well just like marvel film logic , there's multiple timeline when you travel you can only reach another timeline not your own.
@@ИванСнежков-з9й Unbelievable? Hell, the current world governments are already doing the same bullshit. You clearly don't understand how fucked up politicians are.
They WERE trying to prevent the war, they didn't know HOW to yet. AND they were trying to save their OWN timeline because the timelines are seperate, basially its own universe. Did you think it'd be MORE believable if ALL of humanity in the future would just decide to not fight and become extinct? as though self-preservation isn't a thing? (to clarify, all efforts being put into preventing it in the past would have completely condemned the future, whereas their current plan would have benefitted both) And they had to send soldiers to the future because there was too few in the future to get anything done, and the present timeline had an investment in the success of the future so they could prevent it in theirs. Hopefully this doesn't come off rude, I just wanted to add emphasis so it came out clearly.
@@GBDupree Was there any explanation as to why they coulnd't just move in to the past timeline?
The movie was okay compared to what we have nowadays but in no way is it a masterpiece,,,
Think it's either a failure or a masterpiece. Since it was okay as you said it's classified as a "masterpiece"
@@Simpie32 He should of called the vid How to make a Cinematic Meh,,,
He's jokingly saying so until he does another review.
@@wayneanderton4953 read the description btw ;)
I would rather see the negative parts rather then trying to find good things in a bad movie, whats is the point? I mean it’s going to be negative because movies are shit now
I don’t understand why people don’t like this movie
My daughter and I watched this when it came out a few weeks ago, and we really enjoyed it. Yeah sure you could run a semi truck through the hole related to the time travel premise, but the action was crisp and we never felt bored. Also, kudos to the filmmakers for waiting at least 40 minutes until completely unveiling the creatures.
I was expecting this movie to be corny and cheesy but I felt that it ended up being a genuinely good movie.
I love this movie. It’s actually a really good, exciting, emotionally charged, entertaining alien movie that actually shows the aliens. I’ve seen it several times and can always watch it without being burnt out or bored.
Definitely
It has too many plot holes.
Viewers: "Stop being so negative omg"
Filmento: **SARCASM INCREASES 4000%**
he is Not being sarcastic
@@johnblunt1313 he was being truthful to an extent but also being facetious as well
Wish he conveyed that better with his voice.
I don't get the hate this movie gets. I mean it wasn't a "masterpiece" but it sure as hell wasn't as bad as the critics panned it. It deserves a watch. Technically, it's a very good screenplay with thematic payoffs.
It was OK. 52% is pretty spot on imo. Half of this movie is shit haha.
@@Digitaljeno wow had to be toxic bro
Plot holes, shit tone of plot holes.
It's just an ok movie at the end of the day.
I think most of the hate comes from the giant plot holes and overall nothing making sense if you think about it acting and effects are good stories not
@@deadlyrobot5179 you know plot holes arent a bother until some b***h has to bring them up
I think this movie is amazing. Most of the plotholes people bring up aren't plotholes at all if you really pay attention. Obviously it's not perfect, but it deserves more credit than most people are giving it, even the ones who liked it.
When you decide to watch a movie in cinema depending on if filmento labels it as film perfection or failure
I bet some people actually do that
I actually do that lol
skip this one, srsly
Honestly, sounds like a plan.
@@Kikoberserk yeah lol, it's only enjoyable on a watch party w friends
It's interesting to analyze the confusion in the comment section. Most people don't read the description, nor get the meaning of the content. "Film Perfection" is a good title for a series of analysis of movie aspects, and so is the subtitle for this one "how to build a cinematic masterpiece", emphasis on cinematic. But aside from that, I think the way it's portrayed like in the first 20 seconds of the video makes people assume the subject is a perfect masterpiece, when it's not really what you're trying to do here
Thanks for explaining it lol
People are dense.
Thanks for explaining the fucking video. I also have ears and a brain capable of comprehending words.
Oh buddy.
'Film Perfection' in a hilarious Movie
about Plot Holes and some Side-Quest about maybe Time-Traveling.
Haha. No.
This is an Ok-Movie at Best. But its riddled with Plot Hole Nonsense
so bad that people all over the world make Fun of it.
@@arandombard1197 Here is the neat part, plenty of people don't. Seriously just look at the comment below yours.
9:33 "No seriously, someone fucking said that." - MauLer, GDELB 5
*this
Don't let the haters get to you, Filmento! I've found out that even the movies hyped by everybody and labeled "masterpieces" have issues which can be put out there and you are doing it in a way better than most. Keep the sarcasm coming!
*brad pitt shoots at a white version of the quiet place monster*
filmento:"this great."
I wouldn't call it perfection or a masterpiece, it wasn't even close but it was definitely refreshing.
Loving that Filmento is a clear Bioshock Infinite fan. He is always using visual and audio cues that throw me right back to some great early 2010s content. Keep up the great work, love this channel, very relatable.
Charlie yelling “ooooo yeah baby!!” Will never get old 🤣
Just watched this from seeing your thumbnail. And yes, it was a so much fun and emotion. Wow! Haven't seen a great film like this for a while.
This is the one of a very few movies I've seen in the last couple years that actually held my attention ("Fatherhood" bring another). I guess there are some plot holes, but none so bad that it ruined it for me. I really don't understand the hate on this movie, especially when compared to soooooooo many flops over past 2 years.
"none so bad", If they can send people to the past, they could Just capture some alien and evacuate everything they can to the past and prepare humanity for the invasion, thats much more effective than send untrained civilians to the Future, at least is what i think😉
@@mateusferraridemelo4863 this movie and me had one agreement: if it doesn't get too serious about the time travel, then I will be enjoying it... surprisingly it was a good exchange.
@@MrlspPrt If you say so, i'm going to try next time, recently i didn't even watch Black widow's movie to the end, because i was expecting something like the Bourne movies(🙁)
I'll do like you did, thanks for the hint 😉🙂
@@MrlspPrt Yeah, god forbid a movie make you think.
@@mateusferraridemelo4863 yea I thought that too while watching, but then I thought what happens if they have another glitch and they drop it in a bad place. And then it kills someone they need in the future? Idk, it's really hard to rationalize time-travel, and we pretty much base our expectations/rationalizations on what movies and books from the past have established. So I just take all that with a grain of salt
* shrug *
I watched this not having heard anything but a new chris pratt movie.
Found it highly entertaining and engaging. Plot holes? Yeap, lots of them. Did it bother me? Nope!
Same*
Same
Alfred Hitchcock called it "fridge logic". If you don't notice the plot hole during the view of the movie or it doesn't bother, then it's good.
I feel the same way!
also a lot of what you're thinking of as plot holes aren't truly plot holes. The story and universe are set up and shown in a way where it's not touched on but some combination of what we're shown and what we infer from the story that there are direct and indirect reasons for everything done in the film. I noticed a lot, I don't know of how many, but it doesn't matter, because what really matters is there was a lot of effort put in that netted some great results in story. And I think we can all agree and say more surprises like this would be nice!
The dumbest part of this movie was when Chris Pratt's future daughter is mad because the last time she saw him was when he died in the hospital..
This was a movie that kept reminding me that it was very bad in an objective sense, but that I also had a blast watching and was in no way upset about committing to.
Just like Battleship. Practically a braindead action movie, but fun regardless
I thought this movie was fantastic in just about all aspects. Really the only thing I noticed was how nobody was ever mutated when they got hit.
@@metalben005 I do not see how that is an issue since the White Spikes didn't infect people with their bites, claws or spikes as they reproduced normally even if at the rate of rabbits, if not even doubble. Do you mean infection perhaps?
@@alessandrofedericogobber5634 I may have seen it wrong but in the beginning when they first arrive in the future we see people get hit with the spikes that the aliens shoot. The people who got hit quickly turned into white spikes
12:59 this cinematic scene gave me goosebumps and I made it into my desktop wallpaper
at 12:53 is one of the most gorgeous, cinematic shots ive ever seen. its beautiful. reminds me of the scene in Constantine when he collects the hospital tag from hell and then jumps back to earth.
Honestly, I love that you could take a movie that wasn't necessarily a great movie (but was enjoyable to sit and watch with my son on a Saturday night) and do a vid pointing out all the things they did right.
I personally don't mind if your vids are tearing apart bad movies, 'cause it's still an informative way to understand what was done wrong.
All that said, I wouldn't be opposed to you doing a two-part vid where one is all of the negatives, and the other is all of the positives.
Or combining it into one vid and using the ol' count-o-meter to determine arbitrary value based on the number of good things done vs the number of bad things done. :P
Having a time machine and using it to import people from 30 years prior as cannon fodder, rather than using it to go back in time and defeat the enemy at the source or before it grows too powerful, is such a dumb idea that I thought there had to be a twist where the modern people were being tricked.
Same, honestly. I think that's why the reviews were so poor.
I guess you forgot the part where they don't even know where they came from aside the information that russia was hit first?
@@Zephanir I guess you forgot to realize that if Chris Pratt Science Teacher Man could figure it out, scientists in the future who were capable of inventing time travel probably would have before he did.
They DID go back in time to before the war started, but thats meaningless when the timelines are seperate, so preventing it in one timeline doesn't magically change theirs to be better, they say this explicitly in the movie. And the present timeline would have no way of combatting it in their world without fighting the war in the future to find the solution they can then use for themselves before the war happens.
@@GBDupree Wait if the timelines are different, why are they trying to save a future that's not even theirs?!
The Certainty Of The Stakes In The Tomorrow Ultimately Lays The Groundwork For The Stakes In The Today = the title of my next prog rock album
i feel like filmento just has Tenet opinions on everything.
Adapting to criticism and trolling your critics at the same time! Well played and a great content as always!
a cinematic masterpiece is a bit of an overstatement
The movie literally has TWO third acts and two endings and it pisses me off. First third act is getting the toxin and successfully going back to the past and then it starts the third act again with trying to find the alien ship and destroy it.
I loved it, two timelines so you get two endings... thought it was different and it worked for me 🤷🏽♂️
I read that there were apparently reshoots done at some point. Maybe it was supposed to end when Pratt's sent back, but Paramount chickened out when the realized that it probably wasn't gonna gross enough to guarantee a sequel when COVID hit?
@@guy8360 I get that sentiment but it didn't work for me. You can't have two climaxes and resolutions.
@@The_Viktor_Reznov Why not (edit for clarification: Why can't you have 2 climaxes and resolutions)? would you rather it ended unresolved in the present timeline, potentially just leaving it as sequel bait? Or tying up the loose ends of the plot as it did, making it a more satisfying story?
Yeah, the idea is good but the final alien ship act felt like it didn't belong there.
Did you really just compare Vietnamese people to an alien race?
You monster! I saw “cinematic masterpiece” and gave it a watch hoping to watch your video after so as not to spoil it for myself. Now it’s over two hours later and I’ve been bamboozled.
Gotta say, I really liked the first couple scenes in the future, could've been great, then it just devolved!
Exactly how I felt. The concept was great and the way they showed the psychological tole on a society that knows its doomed and the pain of war. Then the whole thing just turned into another novice movie for braindead audiences with horribly boring plot.
Agreed
But it was absolutely fun to watch
@@adeyemioyemade1631 IDK, the number of issues I had with the story while watching made it not so fun for me.
this happens way too often in filmmaking: they have an interesting concept, the rest doesn't matter. it seems they rather lose money than hiring a script doctor
Please tell me it’s sarcastic. Please tell me it’s sarcastic. Please tell me it’s sarcastic.
EDIT: Phew, it is, sorta.
The fact that ANYONE could sit through this whole movie without breaking something is astounding to me. The number of people who dumbly and numbly just passively sit through terrible movies without complaint grows exponentially every year. Clever writing, well-developed characters, and useful dialogue are just too much to ask for in your average "blockbuster" film.
The same people who liked "Rise of Skywalker" because it "subverted" their expectations, and had enough pew pewing and their fav characters to stop them from hating it outright.
dude relax. you realise every single movie doesn't need to try to be perfect right? Movies like this aren't supposed to be taken so seriously. Its fun and full of action, it doesn't need to be a masterpiece
its just a film my guy
You'd be a great parent
It was pretty good, the few time travel questions I had by the end were answered neatly
The ending did not sugarcoat things with the way hero wanted things to go, which also a nice change!
Whoke world scientists couldn’t figure out things, that few guys and a kid found out. That really ruined story for me.
Did those who was drafted all die or did they survive and go back to normal im confused
@@liamdodoveci well the ones who survived came back and the ones who died didn't because.. they died. or what was your question?
You gotta hand it to filmento tho, this guy isn’t afraid of exposing his opinion. You need balls to put “perfection” and “The Tomorrow War” in the same phrase after criticizing Tenet
Trener od mediocre compared to tomorrow war
I was so confused I had to see the video with my own two eyeballs
@@zawarudo1041 so mediocre means neither positive or negative, therefore tenet is on a level plane to the tomorrow war? Neither better nor worse?
Have you watched it? He's being ironic.
@@IgnusIncubus I know. Still, most people would just jump on the hate train and bash the movie as having nothing of worth. Filmento actually goes ahead and exposes the good and bad bits of each movie regardless of how they’re rated.
This movie Tomorrow War was a movie that a lot of people liked, was number one on Amazon for awhile. I thought it was very good. As you say the reason it was memorable was the family themes that ran underneath the plot of father and daughter, and son and older father and forgiveness. That part made it real and the stakes worth watching. It kept us guessing how each scene would end. This movie ranks up there with the 1990 movie of Terminator 2, when Sarah and son John Conner were introduced and Arnold's terminator becomes part of the team fighting for the future, and almost humanized that they shed a tear at the end of the movie when Arnold sacrifices himself at the end to try to stop the war.
"We have to go now!"
"Why, don't we have a time machine?"
"WE HAVE TO GO NOW!"
Sounds and it's bullshit.
I don't understand why you people keep calling it a time machine? It's more like a bridge that's connected to a time 30 years behind the future in a parallel notion much like a different timeline with the same event but might have different outcome. Hell, they even explained they didn't choose 30 years behind. It's what the damn junk gave them and they just roll with it.
Honestly, this movie sounds incredible from your highlights. Aside from the convenience of the bad things that happen (time portal positioning fail), I wonder what other things this movie does wrong to bring it down to just being an okay-ish film in terms of its ratings.
It starts to fall apart when you think about it too hard, but it was a really fun watch
Just enjoy the movie for what it is and forget about trying to tear it apart until after you watch it, and you’ll have an incredible experience.
Honestly I had such a blast with it. Got sum cheesecake and beer to go with it🍻 and had the best time 😂 🔥 💯 it’s defo fun as hell, especially if u like time travel nonsense
The movie is a fun summer flick so you can safely go and watch it. If you focus on the events and how they occur, you will discover it has some pretty stupid and forced situations, but it is much more enjoyable and less dumb than Army of the Dead and even Godzilla vs King Kong.
Well if you think about it, if you time travel, you also have to consider the position of the earth in relation to time and space. Like the earth isn’t in the same position it was 6 months ago. So if you teleported 6 months ago, you would be a hotshot-cicle in space. Maybe there was a hasty miscalculation that put their current point when they started teleportation (on the ground) to the sky.
That edit with With the stand-off music of Iron man and Captain America was beautiful
so glad to finally see someone who does not see the movie as a failure, enjoyed it but i see the points why most of the people dislike missing explanations and so on. Great video.
"missing explanations". Exactly, I have found at least half the problems critics have had with the movie aren't really or were clearly explained, but they just didn't pay good enough attention.
Like when one critic kept referring to the toxin as a virus, and when they ask why they're using humvies in the future when they're becoming obsolete today. Well, there's less than 500,000 people left in the future, so all of the more high tech equipment would have been used up already or can't be replaced anymore. High tech equipment would likely require resources from hundreds of mines around the world. If most of the world is overrun, they simply can't replace them anymore and they instead turn to using the obsolete equipment that's still around in high numbers that they don't have to build themselves.
I think the line should have been at least "hundreds of thousands" instead of "thousands every week" going into the future. The United States alone was shown to have 26 million dead, which would be at least 37.14 million sent into the future. They started out with 1,000 sent the first week. If they increased that number every week, then it's likely the United States would have been sending roughly 1.5 million on the wave we see on the movie. They should have had at least a couple of references to what everyone else sent through was doing.
Besides that point, we would know it's at least tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions dead who were sent to the future. The wave we see in the movie is the last ditch effort to somehow bring a victory in a hopeless situation. The world already see themselves as dead at that point. I'm sure they started with the standard 10 weeks of training new draftees, but then as things got worse in the future, they'd start training for a shorter and shorter period of time in an effort to increase the numbers in the future. Given how many people sent to the future died. I would put the future population somewhere between 150 million to 300 million at the time they appeared on the soccer field. So having less than 500,000 left in the future could say they are literally days from being wiped.
Then there's the time travel aspect. Critics are always asking why they didn't go to an earlier time or jump tanks and aircraft into the future. Well, besides it requiring 22 weeks of training for a tank operator and a year for a fighter pilot, I'd say they simply didn't have the time to train people to operate them, especially with the recruits being in their 40's on average, and older people typically would require more training than the young would. A coworker of mine is in his 50's or 60's, and I have to explain the simplest parts of the job to him almost every day. The military doesn't have that kind of time to train people. Also, you wouldn't want your best equipment being easily lost by an operator who just can't learn everything to operate it well.
They also explain they can't change what time they went back. They probably didn't choose that precise year to travel back to. They describe the time jump equipment as being held together with things like chewing gum and chicken wire, and that if it wasn't an end of the world scenario they'd still be testing with rats. Therefore the time jump equipment I would expect could easily have thousands of malfunctions in that one year time frame.
Another beef they have with the time travel, is they say it's a paradox that the future doesn't already contain the changes Dan will make after he gets back to his own time. To which my response is, why would he make any changes in the first place unless he learns what originally occurred in the timeline? You have to learn of things you want to change to make any changes. So in my opinion, the changes he'd make wouldn't happen until after he returns to his own time.
Anyway, I've blabbed for long enough right now I guess.
At this point hearing that Paramount looked at the finished film and said "no one will like this" is the least surprising of all of this. I'm just glad it got made and I got to see it! And I hope it helps more new ventures be pursued.
Except it's not new. It's just that Tom Cruise movie remade with worse acting.
@@dacksonflux still better than most 2019-2021 movies...
The only thing I liked with The Tomorrow War was the reveal of the monster. One of the coolest most unsettling reveals I've seen in awhile. That creepy heavy breathing.
Now, this is mo masterpiece, HOWEVER, for as cliche that each and every part of this movie (bar the ending) might be, it manages to be enjoyable, and although its message its as cliché as it might get, it is still very well delivered. This is the kind of movies that you will not watch 100.000.000 times, but wont feel like you had wasted your time that one time you watched it, so yeah, its pretty good/decent
cliche and decently delivered message in a movie > experimental and failed message in a movie
@@TheRelentlessKnight on that we can agree
Part of it was enjoyable, but I just couldn't get past all the glaring stupid plot decisions. I just couldn't concentrate on the movie, they completely threw me out of the immersion...
Me: *Reads title*
Also me: “I thought we were in August and not in April 1”
Every video title should start with ''Bad Takes''. Tomorrow War was a 6.5/10.
One of two things should happen to this film if the studio wanted it:
-A sequel to find whose ship was that
-A series to better develop other characters
A new film set decades further in the future where the aliens show up and attack. (Cause then humans might stand a bit better of a chance to fight, but the opponent is also way tougher)
Agreed
I stopped watching this film early on. Just seemed unbelievably weird that the world would send so many people to fight in a war that they hardly know exists and have only known about through what the time travellers tell them
True. And there was no reason for them to travel into the future. They could have just spent the next 20 years building an army and weapons that could defeat the aliens. Or they could have just brought back an alien from the future so they could study his biology, find weaknesses, and create a biological weapon that would kill all the aliens. When you have a time machine, you literally have all the time in the world.
They could have given us a reason for travelling into the future, but didn't bother. I think if the screenwriter had spent some time reading military and time travel SF, and done some basic research about biology, weather, military tactics and human psychology, this could have been a much better film. It was fine, but it could have been great.
Present Timeline people have survived and come back, so there is proof its happening, and the future people knew enough of the present's near-future to prove accurate enough to believe it'd happen to them too. And sending present people to the future so they can last long enough to find a solution that benefits the past makes way more sense than starting from scratch when it happens to the past timeline.
@@nerychristian But they didn't have any way to defeat the aliens even with all the army and weapons of the world, Adding more useless weaponry doesn't make the weaponry less ineffective. And bringing an alien back to the past only risks the past, and is useless when they've studied the males and given that info to the past, but haven't been able to capture a queen and need manpower from the past to do that.
They didn't have all the time in the world though, the bridge between timelines meant that the timelines progrssed concurrently, so a second spent in the past is a second spent in the future AND vice versa, so the 7 days Chris Pratt spent in the future meant he returned 7 days after he left. And they may have made another better time machine, but would have no way of knowing how to connect to that specific timeline. They could have made a time machine that connected randomly to another timeline in the past that doesn't benefit them, it was more beneficial for the short timespan they had left to focus on the timeline they had already been connected to and focus on the solution they did.
@@DJSockmonkeyMusic But they did give a reason though? The future was on the verge of discovering a method to win the war that hadn't started in the past yet, but had not enough manpower. The past had the manpower, but no access to information about the war that hadn't started yet, and it was more practical to have the future figure out a solution instead of the past ignoring them and starting from scratch when the war starts for them, they would instead be prepared. Surely thats a clear enough reason?
For the teleporting bit, I kinda just assumed the reason for the malfunction was because there time travel tech was never really given the chance to be perfected and get all the bugs fixed because of the war hence the chicken wire line
The movie had its issues. That being said, it's an easy watch with some solid moments. A lot more then you can say for most of the movies these days. Apparently a sequel is in the works. Not sure where they could take the story, but would definitely watch it...
Personally, I need a prequel.. I would love to see the explanation on how these creatures built a spaceship.. Mofo's have master intergalactic travel yet only dig holes to live in on our planet?
I think it’s hinted in the spaceship that it was never meant for Earth, meaning there are likely at least two other alien filled planets likely at war. Earth was just an innocent unintended victim.
@@darktheories1758 Space ship belonged to the dead aliens who died in the crash, Whitespikes were cargo. Rewatch the spaceship exploring part of the movie
If they are making another I would prefer not to have an hour wasted on usless stuff like this one was in the beginning casue it made no sense why the main character would want to save is future daughter when he would get sent back to his younger daughter with the virus. And the plot line of his future daughter wanting to see him again and. Being upset that he died and now hes in front of her would be a better start to the movie in my opinion seeing the life of where he died and now hes back and that would change the movie to anothe point of view
@@darktheories1758 they were doing a The Thing, thing. The Whitespikes were being transported by a more advanced race, before they attacked said race and crashed their ship into Earth.