Fun fact about the scene with Gollum in the river: They filmed that in NZ in the winter. The crew scouted a good location, but when they arrived on the morning of the shoot everything was covered in snow. So the entire team came in with leaf blowers and hot water and started cleaning all the snow on scene. Andy Serkis then filmed 5 takes of crawling around in freezing water in sub-zero temperatures.
Tomsy as a stage actress, I care deeply about that stuff. so, yes, anyone does care. and if Andy serkis hadn't done that, lord of the rings won't happen at all.
I feel like this holds up better than most special effects from just a couple of years back. The mix of practicle, miniatures, makeup, prosthetics, and cgi. Just looks more convincing to me.
Yup. The hobbit was a) a rush job so CGI is faster at getting the shots done and b) lazy; they just went with the least physical object storages, creation and weathering as they could. Because of that it looks overly saturated and bland. No one stands out, because they're in a fake environment. By skipping the physical and going for "WOW LOOK AT ALL THE COOL CGI WE CAN DO", weta made a crap show Sincerely, a disappointed kiwi
finished rewatching them the other day for the first time in maybe 8 years and was like wow, still quality films for being nearly 20 years old and holds up ridiculously well
I went there in 2004 before they did the proper rebuild. Even then it was was wonderful. Did a whole 2 week LOTR tour of North and South Island...prob best holiday I've ever been on
@Calm Beast I’m not even Indian and I’ve seen some incredible Indian movies, great Hollywood movie level movies. You can’t judge Indian movies off of videos of bad Indian movies on the internet. You can do the same thing for Hollywood and people like you would judge it off of that
@Calm Beast “licking our boots”. Clearly you have lost the idea of respect, something 90% of people these days don’t have. And you’re pathetic for saying derogatory stuff about your own country.
you should watch the behind the scenes to each of the 3 movies. I know it's really long, but if you do have a passion for the films and films in general it's arguably just as interesting.
@@kreia187 Yea its mindblowing that they still had time to do those behinds the scenes material, considering how much effort went to the actual films. The only movie I can think of which has the same kind of ambition is Jurassic Park, but then again...thats "just" one movie and not trilogy.
They did something similar with the wagon where Frodo and Gandalf sit side by side. Apparently they made Frodo's seat a couple of feet behind Gandalf making him look smaller
Forced perspective camera work on these films was phenomenal. The bts of the film trilogies provides, to this day, an inner approach towards filmmaking like no other.
When the LotR Exhibition was doing its rounds way back in the day, they had a set up where two people could have their photo taken on the "wagon seat" that Frodo and Gandalf sit on. It was made in the same fashion. Anyway, one of you was huge and the other small. It was great.
Then don't listen to his son. "They eviscerated the book by making it an action movie for young people aged 15 to 25," Christopher says regretfully. "And it seems that The Hobbit will be the same kind of film." On the other hand he was opposing the whole movie thing from the very beginning.
@David K well, the last 3 films are very bad, but the universe that George Lucas create is awesome, it has a very big lore and the TV shows like clon wars and mandalorian are incredible.
I didn't think I could appreciate LotR more than I already did. But seeing this amount of hard work and dedication behind the camera somehow makes it all even more impressive. There is NEGATIVE laziness in every tiny shot. They are making models, overlapping shots, hire giant and tiny actors to fool your eyes, create dozens of modified, overlapping sets and set pieces... And some of this stuff they do for shots that last a brief second, shots that easily could've been cut out or done in another, easier way. And the best thing is, CGI is basically just a a subtle, gentle touch on top of all this. It's not replacing any characters, backgrounds and scenes, it's there to help connect everything that's real together. THAT'S how you use CGI. LotR hasn't aged a day. I watch it today and none of the effects take me out of the movie. And most likely, it never will. When a movie hasn't aged a day in 20 years, you know it's timeless.
I hate when people call CGI lazy, as 3D artists and vfx artists work very hard on these shots and when they do their job well, nobody can tell it's there. But I do agree that the best way to use CGI is to use it in the background to blend everything together, not to take the stage in place of a method that works better
AKG i know for that time it was amazing but now when i already saw it 20 times, i can’t Watch of how Boring long it is and then i Look for details of whats wrong with this scenes...
12:53 Fun fact: that actually made a detailed scary-give-me-the-ring Bilbo face mask for that split second shot. I remember hearing them talk about it on the behind the scenes or the extended edition commentary at some point. Can’t remember which.
Its all about good CGI but even a small detail the audience will notice and it looks awful. Shin Godzilla I honestly didint know he wasnt a guy in a rubber suit
The thing is, miniatures are quite expensive compared to CGI nowadays. You have to hire several people to make them, it takes a lot of time, you have to store them and have a backup or two in case it breaks on set. However, I think they are worth every penny.
The Bilbo Baggins freak-out scene was explained in the dvd extras, there was a physical Sculpted version of the character that was filmed for just a second and then was blended in for a in and out morph transition.
I went to a museum exhibit of all of the LOTR props and they had the sculpture of Bilbo. It was perhaps the creepiest thing I've ever seen. That, and the Boromir dead body in the boat, which looked incredibly real like Sean Bean was just taking a nap.
@@emackenzie maybe because they're talking about CGI and there isn't so much to talk about Saruman scenes, while Bilbo has many with the hobbits' height
Noone. And I mean no studio, producer, director, staff and actors would invest THAT much into a movie anymore. 3 years on friggin New Zealand? Therefore we get decent movies then and now, but benchmarks like the LotR.. no. I am still waiting for such thing. Fingers crossed for Avatar sequels tho..
Minecraft and lotr are one thing in a few generations, I don't want to sound like a boomer but movies felt better in the past, like, you could feel more passion placed into them, these days there are sooo many movies that try to reproduce those old gems that we were used to watch but it seems that noone gets that you have to put passion into something if you want it to be good, the hobbit is a shame, compared to lotr, is good by itself but bad in comparisson
@@CommonSenzWhy would you stress over making a high quality god like movie when you can make some cheap jokes, make a few millions and retire? Just a few movies like Joker feel like they tried to make something, lotr may be the first and last of his genre to be that good
Not a masterpiece but a gift from the gods, we are not worthy of such high level of skill in book to movie adaptation, I bet those who readed Lord of the Rings couldn't find a mistake in the movie, it's something that I would call eyegasm, when your eyes are jerked off by the amazing view in your eyes
@@Sykohsis you wanna throw up? if LOTR was made now, Sam would be a strong female character that kept saying women power over and over and Frodo needs a girl to help him, also we all know Legolas would be black and Aragon gay, we just know.
Can't describe how much I love these movies. My wife and I take the time every 2 or 3 years to rewatch from the first Hobbit movie all the way through the last lord of the rings movie, the best trilogy ever imo.
It's a bit downputting that the hobbit had noticeable cgi flubs. Watching the extended commentary cuts and other such media about the original trilogy, a lot of the 'issues' with the hobbit trilogy really stand out. It's almost all achieved with cgi, and when you drown your vfx with cgi it becomes very noticeable. Been my experience that they need to balance cgi, practical, miniatures, etc. to make something truly believable. The Lord of the Rings trilogy hit the ratio perfectly and to this day looks fantastic.
@@murtazarizvi368 That's dated CGI, not bad CGI. Spy Kids 3, THAT is bad CGI. Compare Spy Kids 3 CGI with The Return of the King, these movies came out DURING THE SAME YEAR. NOW tell me, after comparing, that lotr3 had bad cgi lmfao. Fuck off, you don't know what you're talking about.
They obviously know how to do that but they are impressed because it's pretty tough to do it and takes a lot of time. It's basically like watching someone pulling a plane, you would ask "How'd he do that !?" even if you perfectly know how...
Niko every episode: "so they did this *INGENIOUS* subtle effect right there" P.S. Could you guys do the luke training leia and final battle scene from the rise of skywalker
This brings back memories with my Mom. We watch Lord of the ring together when it first came out and was so shock and astonished by how beautiful this film is. Not long after the trilogy released, she passed. I am sort of glad that I can finished the trilogy with her. I still missed her, alot , everyday.
Had something similar. My Mom was a deeply invested LoTR fan, we went to the first opening night, standing in line for something like 9 hours to be the first 10 or so people in line to get the best seats. No easy feat for myself as I'm very handicapped and have leg issues. Unfortunately by the second release she had liver cancer and couldn't go. She told me I had to go stand in line just like the first one for her for I can immediately tell her about it after getting out of the theater. So I did. Stood in line for hours to be within the first dozen or less people into the theater.. enduring the pain for it all. Sadly by the third she had passed.. so at this point had to continue the tradition to honor her. I did it for every single LoTR movie, including the Hobbit. One year I didn't have a working car and no one willing drive me to the theater and was limited on funds for a taxi so had to bike through 3 feet of snow about 7 miles to the theater in North Idaho weather storm (and even more snow on the return trip after the movie at like 3ish AM). I was that motivated to complete my task.
@@MiraSubieGirl Nåti M well Jackson wasn't in charge of making The Hobbit , he had to step in because the original director couldn't finish it so he was very short of time, among other things if you are interested more about this there is plenty of info if you just google about it (Jackson himself speaks directly about problems of The Hobbit in some interviews)
I watched those multiple times too. I actually rebought the extended editions when I’d lose or damage one of the extras discs. All the stuff on the miniatures and the costumes and music and effects and SOUND DESIGN, ugh, instant love.
Some VFX milestones for decades (complete in comments) *EDIT: Updated based on comments* *50's: 20000 Leagues Under the Sea* *60's: 2001 A Space Odyssey* 70's: Star Wars *80's: Tron* 90's: Jurassic Park 00's: LOTR *10's: Inception* For the fifties i really liked the special effects in The Incredible Shrinking Man but it came out later, so, points to Captain Nemo
@@jjwang7597 Marvel VFX is the same as any movie of the decade. Seriously Marvel is so fucking overrated to the point people compare Endgame to Return of the King.
I went to a touring museum display of all of the Lord of Rings props and this doll was one of the things there and it freaked me out. So did the dead Sean Bean in the boat. It was really interesting because they had a whole section showing how they did the perspective manipulation. There also were some of the miniatures they used like the 2 giant king statues that are alongside the river, Baradur, Isengard, and the scouring of the Shire (which was only on screen for a few seconds in Galadriel's mirror and was about the length of a pool table). There was even the cave troll model that they used to create the CGI model. So much detail went into everything for this movie.
"they did all that for like two shots in the film." 'Those two shots' at the start of the three films is what lays the groundwork for believing this fantasy world and the effort clearly put in from creation of the story to the finished Hollywood product.
My HS buddies and watched all 3 yesterday! 11 hours... it felt like a plane ride, lol. I would actually say the best thing for me is that they used practical make-up for all the orcs. The Hobbit trilogy used CGI, and it just looks worse...
I'll never understand the love for the extended editions; they're just bloat. Deleted scenes that you can see why they were cut. The theatrical editions are perfect. Tight. Not a wasted moment or excess.
@@eftorq They called them Bigatures in the production. They talk about them for hours on the DVD extended version special features. Honestly, the DVD extended version is my favourite because it has dozens of hours of special features that are almost %100 cut from the extended edition blu-ray release
The richness in creation for these films is what makes me pursue art. Every single level of involvement was passionate and wildly attentive to detail and lush world-building and it pays off brilliantly. It is, to me, The Bar.
Dude, I had grown up reading the books as a kid. I was a big fantasy genre nerd, but Lord of the Rings was My Thing(tm). The first movie came out when I was in my senior year of high school. When they showed that first shot of Hobbiton and played the hobbits' theme, I had to bite my lip to stop myself from straight up sobbing in the damn theater. It was too perfect.
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@@Aakash_i-s3b I think we have plenty of Hollywood bad movies to go through before resorting to "Bad" Indian movies to please the Indian viewers who somehow manages to always flood the votes by voting in only Bollywood movies. Also Indian movies has nothing in a Bad CGI episode from Corridor crew to do. As in order to make it into this series that would actually mean India has actually produced a single good movie. Nothing fun about doing indian movies for Bad movies series, as thats all they create. Whats fun is seeing them react to bad CGI in movies that shouldn't be that bad. The worst CGI Movie hollywood has ever created would probably be considered the best movie ever produced in Bollywood as the shit they produce is even worse than 1930s special effects from Hollywood. Not really that weird when you think about it tho. Smog is so thick in India that the special effects technicians cant even see whats on the screen in front of them. They probably edit their special effects by noticing some slight light change through the smog whenever they hear a click from hitting a key on the keyboard they cant even see. LOL
You absolutely must not go another day without purchasing either the DVD or Bluray Special extended edition trilogy and then watch all the appendices. They cover every single detail with 20 hours of jam packed interviews, set tours, and discussions covering every detail of production. I'm convinced that this had the most grueling and tedious production of a movie ever. Most every person involved with each movie was pushed to their absolute limits. For the last 3-4 months before the world premiere of return of the king they were composing and recording full orchestra music 24/7. They filmed on 2000km of film and used 12km of pipe hand cut and hand constructed to build all the chain mail, etc.. if you watch the appendices you will be convinced that there will never be a movie produced as these were, ever again.
@@viiking01 Agreed 100%, I watched every minute of the "making of" on the special editions and found it as fascinating as the story itself. As you say, the incredible depth of production was probably the last of its kind.
@@viiking01 We have the complete extended editions trilogy, minus one of the appendices discs, which unfortunately got melted when the DVD-player motor seized up. We've watched the appendices more than the trilogy itself, it was so fascinating to watch.
The use of minatures, prosthetics, practical effects, etc. that are _supplemented_ with quality CGI (and as minimal as possible) will always be superior to and more lifelike than full CGI, in my opinion. It's a significant part of why these films feel so real and grounded while _The Hobbit_ trilogy feels like a cartoon with live action accents here and there.
Hoping that nowdays people should realize, although nowdays VFX are amazing, the use of miniature and practical effects is very important to make a masterpiece movie
As I recall, that "demon face" Bilbo was actually a model/puppet they made specifically for that scene. Would love to see y'all react to "The Amazing Bulk" hueh hueh hueh
@Charlie Vetsworth *shrug its just sad how big the starwars series is and they screwed it up. Props to him for attempting to clean up the mess. Plus the new trilogy is remake of the original trilogy and lotr already is a great peice of literature.
@Charlie Vetsworth JJ didn't intend on doing the third movie, it was Colin Trevorrow originally. Trevorrow got removed and they brought back JJ to do the third movie after the disaster that was TLJ because they figured that JJ could make a safe movie to mop up the mess that was TLJ while placating fans... which is exactly what TROS does. TFA put the sequel trilogy in an awful position to begin with anyways. Everyone involved in the production of those hideous movies are to blame, not just KK or RJ.
JJ and Rian are equally at fault. TFA has zero world building or characterization for Rey. TLJ had a chance to undo this but completely failed with the “subverted expectations” bullshit. TROS is just a total disaster because at this point there is no saving the trilogy.
@Charlie Vetsworth Respectfully, I have to disagree. Abrams is good at casting, character chemistry and dialogue. But he is horrible at story writing. Just look at any of his films or tv shows. They always have great characters, good acting and amusing banter. But the stories all fall short at best, and fall apart at worst.
Same here, but unlike you I don't work in the VFX industry. The making ofs and commentaries are just as fascinating and entertaining as the movies themselves.
Same, but I'm a writer and world builder because of it vs vfx. I would love to learn more about both vfx and practical effects, though. I want to work in film to some extent some day. It's always been a passion of mine, and LotR was a huge part of feeding that.
this movie is over 20 years old and it's cinematography/production work is still state-of-the-art today. That just shows how this movie was ahead of its time
Pretty understandable though. It wasn't just props and miniatures. There was also makeup, horses, hundreds of extras they have to control. Plus, cgi is easier to do in a studio than the outdoors. But I get what you're saying. Compared to Lotr, Hobbit feels like a children's cartoon.
In their defense, that happened mainly because Peter wasn’t given enough time for practical effects and was forced to rely on CG more than in the original trilogy as a result.
There is a new Hobbit fan-edit that removes all of those bad CGI scenes and pointless action scenes entirely. The Maple Films Studio edit of The Hobbit condenses the trilogy into a single 4 ½ hour film that is faithful to Tolkien’s book. The color grading of this edit was even adjusted to match the appearance of The Lord of the Rings Trilogy. This is the Hobbit version that I use to start my Middle-earth marathon. Here is a review: ua-cam.com/video/byC412_ADfE/v-deo.html
If you like that kind of stuff, I recommend watching the hours of making-of videos in the DVD's extras. It's got everything you can think of from set life to prop design.
What the fuck I read this comment before watching and thought to myself:"Yeah, that's dumb, it's a whole 14 minute video" And here I am, "2 minutes" later
I was actually quite entertained by the Hobbit but the CGI took me right out of the movie. I also hated how they shoved so much random stuff in that shouldn’t be there like Azog. If I look at it as an adaptation of the book, I hate it, but if I look at it as its own thing, I like most of it.
When they cut from Gollum's beautifully articulated lips (that's just a weird phrase that I've never typed before) to Henry Cavill's bad mustache removal I literally burst out laughing.
Using miniatures creates a more believable set than creating it on CGI. Even with current technological advances humans can spot what's real (as in material) and what's not
Audacious Scoundrel watched return of the king last night, still looked incredible and immersive to me. 500x better and more realistic than the hobbit trilogy
I'd like to see you guys analyze the de-aging technology in "The Irishman." Also, in "Rise of Skywalker" compare the scene of Rey taking the skiff to the Death Star wreckage with the bad Pierce Brosnan windsurfing scene.
CGI has somehow gotten worse the “better” it gets. With a lot of the MCU and newer Star Wars films, it’s so glossy and perfect that it stands out like a sore thumb. The LOTR CGI still holds up, absolutely amazing
1: The massive miniatures they used were called "Bigatures". 2: Demon Bilbo wasn't digital. It was a puppet that they spent thousands of dollars and months of work to create, and it was morphed into the picture for less than a second.
@@theholypopechodeii4367 True. I remember that one of the review requirements for the game was to not mention Lord of the Rings, as it wasn't considered canon.
This made me appreciate Lotr even more. Every single aspect of the film is expertly done - it’s not like one part (vxf or the acting) was compromised or outshines the other. They have to both be perfect to make it work
The first five minutes where you guys discussed Gollum just sums up why the LOTR trilogy remains one of the greatest pieces of film/art of the modern age. The adversity, the hardship that the film makers (and I mean everyone involved) faced were overcome by sheer dedication and love for ones craft. It's just incredible.
Yeah! I read about that in one of the many behind-the-scenes books I consumed (this is taking me back to my childhood!), there were VFX involved but they also replaced the face with the model. Wish I could find the photo, it was super creepy!
These effects still hold up incredibly well, whereas when I watch other films from that time, their VFX shots don't stand up to modern scrutiny. The care that went into it makes it timeless.
These movies are such a masterpiece through and through.. my dad first introduced me to the triology when I was 6 and now 16 years later I still love them to death
Goddamn that is a terrible movie. General concept is fine and CGI is great but those two lead actors were so unbelievably I turned after like twenty mins
The parts of Andy in the water at the start isn't just him in the water. It's also the fact that they had to use water pumps to melt the snow and ice for him to be able to do this scene in sub freezing temperature water FOR THIS SCENE. That dude is a machine. You see the BTS videos of the others doing fight scenes etc, but this due literally swam in an ice cold stream for this scene. That's dedication.
All this tells me is that not only the Special Effects of Lord of the Rings were an incredible achievement... but that Andy Serkis is a freaking force of nature. Hat off to this artist!
that's because when they do, mainstream audiences shoot em down. like Man of Steel and Batman v Superman. both masterclasses in terms of production and both heavily layered in metaphor, allegory, ideology, and character analysis. But because they aren't making Tony stark "hide the zucchini" jokes, people hate them. the reason we don't get authentic sincere films is because people are actively hating on them.
The achievement of this film is not just its good visual effects. It's the perfect blend of practical and digital elements. It's how they put them together seamlessly so that there's enough grounded in reality to keep it believable. The entire crew of that film is remarkable and made one of the greatest achievements of film
LOTR is the single greatest achievement in the cinematic history. Many movies come and go but this trilogy will remain in everyone's hearts forever. It has become a tradition for me to atleast visit these films once a while.
MADDAZZA 95 Some argue that with the Two Towers the trilogy dips and looses momentum, but it’s definitely top three, with the Toy Story and Before trilogies.
Weasle Of course people have Rose tinted glasses. Star Wars was a revolutionary evolution in visual effects and had an amazing story to go along with them, so, those rose tinted glasses have a good reason to be there.
It always depends on the right mix. But they should do more things practical today. If they would make the battle for Helm's Deep today, it would be a single, artificial-looking CGI-fest. or watch the Indiana Jones films. Does the 4th part look better because it uses CGI? Of course not. A lot of filmmakers just got lazy. Filming a chase in front of a green screen and simply leaving the rest to the effects company for months is easier than elaborate choeographies, hire a bunch of stunt people, long rehearsals and shut off streets including permits, insurance, transportation of tons of material and so on.
@@rolanddeschain6089 Whoever saw movies like Spartacus or Laurence of Arabia with hundreds or even thousands of troops knows real life people and especially real horses will never look as realistic in CGI.
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Can you guys please make a video about green screens vs blue screens for VFX?
Fun fact about the scene with Gollum in the river: They filmed that in NZ in the winter. The crew scouted a good location, but when they arrived on the morning of the shoot everything was covered in snow. So the entire team came in with leaf blowers and hot water and started cleaning all the snow on scene. Andy Serkis then filmed 5 takes of crawling around in freezing water in sub-zero temperatures.
Also, what you don't see is a waterfall at edge of the shot and Andy was so enthusiastic he almost fell down it.
Jeez
Thanks Andy..
@@tomsy7513 sick jerk
Tomsy as a stage actress, I care deeply about that stuff. so, yes, anyone does care. and if Andy serkis hadn't done that, lord of the rings won't happen at all.
I feel like this holds up better than most special effects from just a couple of years back. The mix of practicle, miniatures, makeup, prosthetics, and cgi. Just looks more convincing to me.
Yup. The hobbit was a) a rush job so CGI is faster at getting the shots done and b) lazy; they just went with the least physical object storages, creation and weathering as they could.
Because of that it looks overly saturated and bland. No one stands out, because they're in a fake environment. By skipping the physical and going for "WOW LOOK AT ALL THE COOL CGI WE CAN DO", weta made a crap show
Sincerely, a disappointed kiwi
Because it real.... Not cgi over everything's
finished rewatching them the other day for the first time in maybe 8 years and was like wow, still quality films for being nearly 20 years old and holds up ridiculously well
I recommend Jurassic park 2 cgi aging hella well and in my opinion its better then the first one
you know how it is, practical shots last, cg ages
Fun fact: Hobbiton was built one year before the filming of Lord of the Rings because they wanted the town to naturally age.
Kurohei they also only cut the grass with like sheep and junk to make it seem more medieval
oooooooo intresting
I've been to that place in New Zealand and it's pretty damn cool
@@hazzard7653 Funner fact, you've been to the rebuilt set, not the original. I went there too and still loved it of course X-D.
I went there in 2004 before they did the proper rebuild. Even then it was was wonderful. Did a whole 2 week LOTR tour of North and South Island...prob best holiday I've ever been on
Lord of the Rings: The perfect balance between CGI and Practical effects.
@@draglout yeah we don’t do that here
@Calm Beast not cool
@Calm Beast I’m not even Indian and I’ve seen some incredible Indian movies, great Hollywood movie level movies. You can’t judge Indian movies off of videos of bad Indian movies on the internet. You can do the same thing for Hollywood and people like you would judge it off of that
@Calm Beast “licking our boots”. Clearly you have lost the idea of respect, something 90% of people these days don’t have. And you’re pathetic for saying derogatory stuff about your own country.
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You can tell these films were made with love.
Ikr
100%
Peter Jackson is a fan of Tolkien's work.
And you can tell the hobbit was made with corporate greed
At least st someone was 🤫
I knew Lord of the Rings was impressive, but that table scene is just a completely new level.
you should watch the behind the scenes to each of the 3 movies. I know it's really long, but if you do have a passion for the films and films in general it's arguably just as interesting.
@@kreia187 Yea its mindblowing that they still had time to do those behinds the scenes material, considering how much effort went to the actual films. The only movie I can think of which has the same kind of ambition is Jurassic Park, but then again...thats "just" one movie and not trilogy.
They did something similar with the wagon where Frodo and Gandalf sit side by side. Apparently they made Frodo's seat a couple of feet behind Gandalf making him look smaller
Forced perspective camera work on these films was phenomenal. The bts of the film trilogies provides, to this day, an inner approach towards filmmaking like no other.
When the LotR Exhibition was doing its rounds way back in the day, they had a set up where two people could have their photo taken on the "wagon seat" that Frodo and Gandalf sit on. It was made in the same fashion. Anyway, one of you was huge and the other small. It was great.
The Lord of the Rings trilogy is an achievement in filmmaking and I won’t hear anything different
Permission to tell you one thing different? It isn’t AN achievement it is THE ACHIEVEMENT
Star Wars AND lotr
@@cookedjedi6627 Star Wars is overrated in my opinion.
Then don't listen to his son.
"They eviscerated the book by making it an action movie for young people aged 15 to 25," Christopher says regretfully. "And it seems that The Hobbit will be the same kind of film."
On the other hand he was opposing the whole movie thing from the very beginning.
@David K well, the last 3 films are very bad, but the universe that George Lucas create is awesome, it has a very big lore and the TV shows like clon wars and mandalorian are incredible.
I didn't think I could appreciate LotR more than I already did. But seeing this amount of hard work and dedication behind the camera somehow makes it all even more impressive. There is NEGATIVE laziness in every tiny shot. They are making models, overlapping shots, hire giant and tiny actors to fool your eyes, create dozens of modified, overlapping sets and set pieces... And some of this stuff they do for shots that last a brief second, shots that easily could've been cut out or done in another, easier way. And the best thing is, CGI is basically just a a subtle, gentle touch on top of all this. It's not replacing any characters, backgrounds and scenes, it's there to help connect everything that's real together. THAT'S how you use CGI. LotR hasn't aged a day. I watch it today and none of the effects take me out of the movie. And most likely, it never will. When a movie hasn't aged a day in 20 years, you know it's timeless.
I hate when people call CGI lazy, as 3D artists and vfx artists work very hard on these shots and when they do their job well, nobody can tell it's there. But I do agree that the best way to use CGI is to use it in the background to blend everything together, not to take the stage in place of a method that works better
Totally agree with you...
Lord of the Rings: a masterclass in forced perspective.
Correction: a masterclass of a moive
Sound like a porn parody
lord of the rings is porn. art porn
And then they decided to film The Hobbit in 3D, thus preventing them from using ANY forced perspective, since depth perception would ruin it.
It aged like fine wine unlike 90% of the movies out there !
i would actually dissagree
@@dragoonMSfan you're dumb then
Ivan how would you disagree, it’s held up amazingly
AKG i know for that time it was amazing but now when i already saw it 20 times, i can’t Watch of how Boring long it is and then i Look for details of whats wrong with this scenes...
I still love starship troopers!
I dunno why but Lord of the Rings makes me feel like I'm about to tear up.
Takes you back to when your life was much simpler?
Does me.
It's that good
It’s a true masterpiece that’s why and we were privileged enough to be alive to experience it.
PatchCornAdams723 Nostalgia man, the nostalgia hits me HARD everytime I even think about Lord of the Rings. Back to a time when I had no worries
Because it is telling the story of the most core truth inside all of humanity. Check out The Hero's Journey.
The scene where Theoden goes back to normal always amazes me, it just happens and it’s hard to notice something is happening
12:53 Fun fact: that actually made a detailed scary-give-me-the-ring Bilbo face mask for that split second shot. I remember hearing them talk about it on the behind the scenes or the extended edition commentary at some point. Can’t remember which.
Erik C 'Piano Man' came here to say this but glad you beat me to it
I remember hearing that it’s actually a full bust- Weta gave it to Ian Holm after shooting.
Leonard O'Grady I seem to remember seeing some bts or dvd feature with an image of the bust/puppet but I might be remembering things
yeah I remember the commentary saying it was a puppet that they partially morphed onto Ian's face
@@stephenm24 I came here to say the same.
I wish miniatures would be used more often nowadays, the over the top CGI shit takes me out of the movie in an instant.
so true
Its all about good CGI but even a small detail the audience will notice and it looks awful. Shin Godzilla I honestly didint know he wasnt a guy in a rubber suit
The thing is, miniatures are quite expensive compared to CGI nowadays. You have to hire several people to make them, it takes a lot of time, you have to store them and have a backup or two in case it breaks on set. However, I think they are worth every penny.
Fr!
@@btCharlie_ Not just that but CGI is also a lot easier, it gives the VFX artists more freedom.
The Bilbo Baggins freak-out scene was explained in the dvd extras, there was a physical Sculpted version of the character that was filmed for just a second and then was blended in for a in and out morph transition.
I was surprised they ended on that shot but didnt go into details on the effect. You beat me to it! :D
Sort of like how they made Donovan "decay" in _Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade,_ then. Neat!
I went to a museum exhibit of all of the LOTR props and they had the sculpture of Bilbo. It was perhaps the creepiest thing I've ever seen. That, and the Boromir dead body in the boat, which looked incredibly real like Sean Bean was just taking a nap.
Rest in peace Ian Holmes (Bilbo Baggins). He did a great job playing Bilbo.
:(
I know he isn’t mentioned in this video, but Rest In Peace Sir Christopher Lee (Saruman) as well.
@@xantherxavier5429 This video was made 2 years ago 😂 they cannot see the future 😂
@@phoebepaige1619 they meant how there aren't any scenes with him shown in this video like with bilbo
@@emackenzie maybe because they're talking about CGI and there isn't so much to talk about Saruman scenes, while Bilbo has many with the hobbits' height
Almost 20 years since, and still no other trilogy quite like it.
Noone. And I mean no studio, producer, director, staff and actors would invest THAT much into a movie anymore. 3 years on friggin New Zealand? Therefore we get decent movies then and now, but benchmarks like the LotR.. no. I am still waiting for such thing. Fingers crossed for Avatar sequels tho..
Minecraft and lotr are one thing in a few generations, I don't want to sound like a boomer but movies felt better in the past, like, you could feel more passion placed into them, these days there are sooo many movies that try to reproduce those old gems that we were used to watch but it seems that noone gets that you have to put passion into something if you want it to be good, the hobbit is a shame, compared to lotr, is good by itself but bad in comparisson
@@CommonSenzWhy would you stress over making a high quality god like movie when you can make some cheap jokes, make a few millions and retire? Just a few movies like Joker feel like they tried to make something, lotr may be the first and last of his genre to be that good
@@CommonSenz I can not wait for Avatar 2, hopefully in theaters in 2030
The Dark Knight: Am i a joke to u?
Lord of the Rings is our generation's Wizard of Oz-we'll still be watching these movies 50 years from now. A masterpiece!
Not a masterpiece but a gift from the gods, we are not worthy of such high level of skill in book to movie adaptation, I bet those who readed Lord of the Rings couldn't find a mistake in the movie, it's something that I would call eyegasm, when your eyes are jerked off by the amazing view in your eyes
It is also the very last fantasy Trilogy that escaped current year identity politics. The last european myth that didn't end up "reinterpreted."
@@TheZapan99 Just imagine there being black elves. I just threw up a little.
@@Sykohsis you wanna throw up? if LOTR was made now, Sam would be a strong female character that kept saying women power over and over and Frodo needs a girl to help him, also we all know Legolas would be black and Aragon gay, we just know.
@@Real_SkyRipper I came from the future to say that there is a dark elf in the new series of LotR
Can't describe how much I love these movies. My wife and I take the time every 2 or 3 years to rewatch from the first Hobbit movie all the way through the last lord of the rings movie, the best trilogy ever imo.
Anime Sins I do the same with my family! Every 2 years we do a Middle Earth Marathon
Hahah we do it every year
Well if you watch from the Hobbit it's not a trilogy, it's 6 movies
2 or 3 years ???
Sir i rewatch all 6 movies 2 or 3 times every single year
@@LordAko04 Good man!
"Bad CGI" and "Lord of the Rings" should never be in the same sentence. The Hobbit on the other hand...
Legolas jumping on the broken bridge pieces....ughhh
There was no Hobbit movie - NEVER! You heard me!? :-D
It's a bit downputting that the hobbit had noticeable cgi flubs. Watching the extended commentary cuts and other such media about the original trilogy, a lot of the 'issues' with the hobbit trilogy really stand out. It's almost all achieved with cgi, and when you drown your vfx with cgi it becomes very noticeable. Been my experience that they need to balance cgi, practical, miniatures, etc. to make something truly believable. The Lord of the Rings trilogy hit the ratio perfectly and to this day looks fantastic.
First one is good.
@@murtazarizvi368 That's dated CGI, not bad CGI. Spy Kids 3, THAT is bad CGI. Compare Spy Kids 3 CGI with The Return of the King, these movies came out DURING THE SAME YEAR. NOW tell me, after comparing, that lotr3 had bad cgi lmfao. Fuck off, you don't know what you're talking about.
FRODO: "Rivendell!"
SAMWISE: "Rivendell!"
PIPPIN: "Rivendell!"
MERRY: "It's only a model."
FRODO: "Shhh!"
toonbat It’s a very silly place!
Tis'
@@tibsie
Oh, tra-la-la-lally,
Down here in the valley!
Ha, ha!
So what? Why is that 300 likes on this comment?
Monty Python reference
VFX artists react in a nutshell:
“Oh my gosh!”
“How’d they do that?!”
“I know how they did that”
Stumped better than all the other reactchannels. This educates well.
you forgot that dumbass screaming like a school girl
And "Look at that nekc. Euck!!"
They obviously know how to do that but they are impressed because it's pretty tough to do it and takes a lot of time. It's basically like watching someone pulling a plane, you would ask "How'd he do that !?" even if you perfectly know how...
don’t forget “I haven’t seen this movie” - Clint
VFX artists: "How are they painting him out??" "I don't know." lol
There are few who can
The answer is meticulously
With the power of the One Ring.
I just felt like a VFX artist saying that, seemed odd. It is like asking a math teacher, how do you do this math problem? I don't know.
@@impendingdoom7920 The painting technique is that of geniuses, which I will not repeat here.
I can’t believe how good Golumn still looks
Yea in some parts of the movie it looks "bad" but it still isn't bad
Niko every episode: "so they did this *INGENIOUS* subtle effect right there"
P.S. Could you guys do the luke training leia and final battle scene from the rise of skywalker
at least he's always right
This brings back memories with my Mom. We watch Lord of the ring together when it first came out and was so shock and astonished by how beautiful this film is. Not long after the trilogy released, she passed. I am sort of glad that I can finished the trilogy with her. I still missed her, alot , everyday.
I'm glad that you had that experience with her
Had something similar. My Mom was a deeply invested LoTR fan, we went to the first opening night, standing in line for something like 9 hours to be the first 10 or so people in line to get the best seats. No easy feat for myself as I'm very handicapped and have leg issues.
Unfortunately by the second release she had liver cancer and couldn't go. She told me I had to go stand in line just like the first one for her for I can immediately tell her about it after getting out of the theater. So I did. Stood in line for hours to be within the first dozen or less people into the theater.. enduring the pain for it all.
Sadly by the third she had passed.. so at this point had to continue the tradition to honor her. I did it for every single LoTR movie, including the Hobbit. One year I didn't have a working car and no one willing drive me to the theater and was limited on funds for a taxi so had to bike through 3 feet of snow about 7 miles to the theater in North Idaho weather storm (and even more snow on the return trip after the movie at like 3ish AM).
I was that motivated to complete my task.
😢😢😭😭
Peter Jackson: We're doing it the hard way.
Just a few do it these days. Even Jackson has become lazier.
I can understand that. But it is a pity.
And between them were nominated for 30 Academy Awards.
Won 17.
Peter Jackson should have applied this to The Hobbit, not lazy CGI.
@@MiraSubieGirl Nåti M well Jackson wasn't in charge of making The Hobbit , he had to step in because the original director couldn't finish it so he was very short of time, among other things
if you are interested more about this there is plenty of info if you just google about it (Jackson himself speaks directly about problems of The Hobbit in some interviews)
Dollt28 thanks man didn’t know that
Sir Peter Jackson
I have to physically restrain myself right now *not* to turn this day into another LOTR-extended-cut+making-of marathon.
I remember watching all of the "appendices" as they called them on DVD and all the VFX stuff blew me away.
I watched those multiple times too. I actually rebought the extended editions when I’d lose or damage one of the extras discs. All the stuff on the miniatures and the costumes and music and effects and SOUND DESIGN, ugh, instant love.
Appendices is a perfectly cromulent plural of appendix.
@@ourkeving I know what the word means lol
@@SunflowerSpotlight ye they are super good and I love the packaging. Best thing I own in my medium sized collection
Some VFX milestones for decades (complete in comments)
*EDIT: Updated based on comments*
*50's: 20000 Leagues Under the Sea*
*60's: 2001 A Space Odyssey*
70's: Star Wars
*80's: Tron*
90's: Jurassic Park
00's: LOTR
*10's: Inception*
For the fifties i really liked the special effects in The Incredible Shrinking Man but it came out later, so, points to Captain Nemo
big facts
2010s ?
10s: Marvel?
@@jjwang7597 Marvel VFX is the same as any movie of the decade. Seriously Marvel is so fucking overrated to the point people compare Endgame to Return of the King.
10s avatar?
Edit: wow avatar is 11 years old never mind.
The scary Bilbo was a full size doll they created specifically for this one shot and comped in 😂
Was going to say this. I'm surprised they didn't know.
@@fumblesmcstupid7799 How does creating an entire handcrafted doll for .5 seconds of action qualify as "Less"?
@@fumblesmcstupid7799 fair enough! In any case I was so amazed by the attention to detail in Lord of the rings! A true manmade wonder!
I went to a touring museum display of all of the Lord of Rings props and this doll was one of the things there and it freaked me out. So did the dead Sean Bean in the boat. It was really interesting because they had a whole section showing how they did the perspective manipulation. There also were some of the miniatures they used like the 2 giant king statues that are alongside the river, Baradur, Isengard, and the scouring of the Shire (which was only on screen for a few seconds in Galadriel's mirror and was about the length of a pool table). There was even the cave troll model that they used to create the CGI model. So much detail went into everything for this movie.
"they did all that for like two shots in the film." 'Those two shots' at the start of the three films is what lays the groundwork for believing this fantasy world and the effort clearly put in from creation of the story to the finished Hollywood product.
I mean, I'm pretty sure they realize that. The point is that theres a vision you need to even do a scene like that to begin with.
This is making me to rewatch extended LOTR series so bad.
Big time...gonna get out my extended edition s!
Way ahead of you.
My HS buddies and watched all 3 yesterday! 11 hours... it felt like a plane ride, lol.
I would actually say the best thing for me is that they used practical make-up for all the orcs. The Hobbit trilogy used CGI, and it just looks worse...
I'll never understand the love for the extended editions; they're just bloat. Deleted scenes that you can see why they were cut. The theatrical editions are perfect. Tight. Not a wasted moment or excess.
@@ChrisDyn1 If you liked the books, you'll like the extended editions, plain and simple.
"...they used miniatures--massive, MASSIVE miniatures."
me: "mediumatures"
BeastMade Reviews my teacher at film school called them bigatures lol
@@eftorq I think the team called them "Maximatures"
@@eftorq They called them Bigatures in the production. They talk about them for hours on the DVD extended version special features.
Honestly, the DVD extended version is my favourite because it has dozens of hours of special features that are almost %100 cut from the extended edition blu-ray release
@@eftorq LOL perfect
@@eftorq the guys who made the movies called them bigatures too
Just hearing the music makes me tear up. Like reminiscing an long epic journey of my own. No other film/series of films make me feel like that.
100% with you.
I've seen the trilogy so many times that I've lost count and that song playing during Frodo and Bilbo's goodbye wrecks me every...single...time.
The richness in creation for these films is what makes me pursue art. Every single level of involvement was passionate and wildly attentive to detail and lush world-building and it pays off brilliantly. It is, to me, The Bar.
Dude, I had grown up reading the books as a kid. I was a big fantasy genre nerd, but Lord of the Rings was My Thing(tm). The first movie came out when I was in my senior year of high school. When they showed that first shot of Hobbiton and played the hobbits' theme, I had to bite my lip to stop myself from straight up sobbing in the damn theater. It was too perfect.
The books itself made me tear up the first time I read them. A greats story.
The amount of work they put in these films are so impressive, that's what makes them so authentic and the fact that they age very well.
The Lord of the Rings, best trilogy ever.
Percy Jackson best series ever
Reapermaster 123 lol
@@danielpeprny3043 lol
Navis that what i said
@@reapermaster1233 I mean The Hobbit films aren't great lmao
I've been here reloading for the past five minutes waiting for this
Tyler Muir same
Heyy... React on ( plz like this so these guys can see and react on these) part 2 on Indian CGI ❤❤❤❤❤
1 👉 ra.one - shahruk khan - indian super hero movie - that's a little good one
2.. Robot 2.0 - rajani kant, akshay kumar - Full movie (it's kind of nice as an indian movie, you've reacted on it's first part
3... flying jatt - tiger shroff - Final fight on the moon ( that looks cartoonish, plz react on that )
4 ajooba - Jackie shroff - thats literally horrible 😂😂
@@Aakash_i-s3b I think we have plenty of Hollywood bad movies to go through before resorting to "Bad" Indian movies to please the Indian viewers who somehow manages to always flood the votes by voting in only Bollywood movies. Also Indian movies has nothing in a Bad CGI episode from Corridor crew to do. As in order to make it into this series that would actually mean India has actually produced a single good movie. Nothing fun about doing indian movies for Bad movies series, as thats all they create. Whats fun is seeing them react to bad CGI in movies that shouldn't be that bad. The worst CGI Movie hollywood has ever created would probably be considered the best movie ever produced in Bollywood as the shit they produce is even worse than 1930s special effects from Hollywood. Not really that weird when you think about it tho. Smog is so thick in India that the special effects technicians cant even see whats on the screen in front of them. They probably edit their special effects by noticing some slight light change through the smog whenever they hear a click from hitting a key on the keyboard they cant even see. LOL
I could watch a full breakdown like ths of the entire LotR extended editions.
You absolutely must not go another day without purchasing either the DVD or Bluray Special extended edition trilogy and then watch all the appendices. They cover every single detail with 20 hours of jam packed interviews, set tours, and discussions covering every detail of production. I'm convinced that this had the most grueling and tedious production of a movie ever. Most every person involved with each movie was pushed to their absolute limits. For the last 3-4 months before the world premiere of return of the king they were composing and recording full orchestra music 24/7. They filmed on 2000km of film and used 12km of pipe hand cut and hand constructed to build all the chain mail, etc.. if you watch the appendices you will be convinced that there will never be a movie produced as these were, ever again.
15hrs later...
You should have a look at "folleyship of the ring". That is not a misspelling thats the name of a parody.
@@viiking01 Agreed 100%, I watched every minute of the "making of" on the special editions and found it as fascinating as the story itself.
As you say, the incredible depth of production was probably the last of its kind.
@@viiking01 We have the complete extended editions trilogy, minus one of the appendices discs, which unfortunately got melted when the DVD-player motor seized up. We've watched the appendices more than the trilogy itself, it was so fascinating to watch.
The use of minatures, prosthetics, practical effects, etc. that are _supplemented_ with quality CGI (and as minimal as possible) will always be superior to and more lifelike than full CGI, in my opinion. It's a significant part of why these films feel so real and grounded while _The Hobbit_ trilogy feels like a cartoon with live action accents here and there.
Hoping that nowdays people should realize, although nowdays VFX are amazing, the use of miniature and practical effects is very important to make a masterpiece movie
As I recall, that "demon face" Bilbo was actually a model/puppet they made specifically for that scene.
Would love to see y'all react to "The Amazing Bulk" hueh hueh hueh
Yup. They comped in the demon face Bilbo on top of Ian Holm.
Comped in the demon face, and then did a simple morph, as was said, it was 2000
JJ Abrams: "You might wonder why my VFX look better in Rise of Skywalker."
Peter Jackson: "And you might wonder why I planned my story out."
@Charlie Vetsworth *shrug its just sad how big the starwars series is and they screwed it up. Props to him for attempting to clean up the mess. Plus the new trilogy is remake of the original trilogy and lotr already is a great peice of literature.
@Charlie Vetsworth JJ didn't intend on doing the third movie, it was Colin Trevorrow originally. Trevorrow got removed and they brought back JJ to do the third movie after the disaster that was TLJ because they figured that JJ could make a safe movie to mop up the mess that was TLJ while placating fans... which is exactly what TROS does. TFA put the sequel trilogy in an awful position to begin with anyways. Everyone involved in the production of those hideous movies are to blame, not just KK or RJ.
JJ and Rian are equally at fault. TFA has zero world building or characterization for Rey. TLJ had a chance to undo this but completely failed with the “subverted expectations” bullshit. TROS is just a total disaster because at this point there is no saving the trilogy.
@Charlie Vetsworth Respectfully, I have to disagree. Abrams is good at casting, character chemistry and dialogue. But he is horrible at story writing. Just look at any of his films or tv shows. They always have great characters, good acting and amusing banter. But the stories all fall short at best, and fall apart at worst.
@ No one here is questioning the writing in LOTR, genius. Maybe you should try harder to comprehend the discussion before mouthing off.
And remember that they did all that in 2001. That's 19 years ago.
Actually they did it before 2001. They started around 98-99
And the modern day marvel movies don’t even look this good.
It came out in December 2001, it was filmed way before that.
It was filmed in 1999 through till December 2000 I’m pretty sure then the rest of the work was done in 2001 before release
I've watched the 25 hours the "behind the scenes" at least 6 times. I'm working in the VFX industry because of LOTR.
That's awesome dude!
ohh great mate 👍🏻
Same here, but unlike you I don't work in the VFX industry. The making ofs and commentaries are just as fascinating and entertaining as the movies themselves.
Which were your favorite behind the scenes moment? I loved the making of the phony pony/ barrel rig.
Same, but I'm a writer and world builder because of it vs vfx. I would love to learn more about both vfx and practical effects, though. I want to work in film to some extent some day. It's always been a passion of mine, and LotR was a huge part of feeding that.
I have been waiting for THIS video literally since this series began.
me too! It's so cool!
"we have so much to talk about, so we split it into two" -- inb4 they stretch it into a trilogy like The Hobbit...
stfu and enjoy their videos i would love to see another video on lotr it's interested
@@priiyankrathod5340 Easy there tiger, they're taking shots at The Hobbit, not Corridor Crew.
I sure hope they do
Like Lindsay Ellis' Everything Wrong with The Hobbit movies parts 1/2, 2/2 and 3/2.
Ask
Clint’s face when performing “the shriek” was topnotch.
this movie is over 20 years old and it's cinematography/production work is still state-of-the-art today. That just shows how this movie was ahead of its time
And then Hobbit was like, “CG EVERYTHING!”
oh, so thats why I find it kind of off, it was good, but... hhhhmmmmm
Pretty understandable though. It wasn't just props and miniatures. There was also makeup, horses, hundreds of extras they have to control. Plus, cgi is easier to do in a studio than the outdoors. But I get what you're saying. Compared to Lotr, Hobbit feels like a children's cartoon.
In their defense, that happened mainly because Peter wasn’t given enough time for practical effects and was forced to rely on CG more than in the original trilogy as a result.
Given the original book was intended for children, that actually fits perfectly
There is a new Hobbit fan-edit that removes all of those bad CGI scenes and pointless action scenes entirely. The Maple Films Studio edit of The Hobbit condenses the trilogy into a single 4 ½ hour film that is faithful to Tolkien’s book. The color grading of this edit was even adjusted to match the appearance of The Lord of the Rings Trilogy. This is the Hobbit version that I use to start my Middle-earth marathon. Here is a review: ua-cam.com/video/byC412_ADfE/v-deo.html
Every single new thing I learn about the original LotR trilogy makes me even more impressed.
and even more disappointed in The Hobbit trilogy...
If you like that kind of stuff, I recommend watching the hours of making-of videos in the DVD's extras. It's got everything you can think of from set life to prop design.
I swear I'm always like: nice, 14 min video.
But then it feels like 2 min later: wut it's already over?
Yes
Exactly! I was totally nonplussed when it was over. “But It’s 14 minutes long! It CAN’T be over! 😱”
It feels like they talked about only 2 shots and it's over already.
Is it because they keep plugging their shit every 5 minutes?
What the fuck
I read this comment before watching and thought to myself:"Yeah, that's dumb, it's a whole 14 minute video"
And here I am, "2 minutes" later
The fact that they used so many practical effects in this movie really made it believable. I love it. all the cg in the hobbit ruined it.
I was actually quite entertained by the Hobbit but the CGI took me right out of the movie. I also hated how they shoved so much random stuff in that shouldn’t be there like Azog. If I look at it as an adaptation of the book, I hate it, but if I look at it as its own thing, I like most of it.
@@willemmmmm yeah, that's basically where I am with it.
Paul WT exactly
It most definitely did not ruin The Hobbit
I just finished my LotR marathon, perfect timing!
Same!!
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Gia S. of course! Just showed them to my gf for the first time a week ago. She asked if we can marathon them again next week. Great success
Why on earth do people enjoy 12h of movie watching?
Easily the best movies of all time
When they cut from Gollum's beautifully articulated lips (that's just a weird phrase that I've never typed before) to Henry Cavill's bad mustache removal I literally burst out laughing.
React to the cats movie, specifically the scene with the cockroaches dancing, that scene is utterly terrifying
i havent watched cats, but i guess it is terryfing. now i want to see it. but also kinda not.
Hawaii781 it is a legend worth seeing for yourself, imho
@Hawaii781 There are leaked videos on internet. The cockcroach scene is out there. It is incredibly terrible and terrifying.
@Dean Sartorel Do you think we can get a thumbs up with that scene? 10:12
Utterly terrifying? Somebody came straight from pitch meetings
Using miniatures creates a more believable set than creating it on CGI. Even with current technological advances humans can spot what's real (as in material) and what's not
Special Effect team: so this is forced perspective, it's easy to use and...
Peter Jackson: i want to move the camera
Special Effect team: f**k!
I'm imagining the meeting with the effects supervisor and PJ says "i want to do this, and that" and the ES replying "We got this...!"
Balls of Steel?
Evil Ash RIGHT!? Although how confident were all the “we got this” because I think most of the time it ended in a question mark.
*This happens to me when I do my vfx with zero budget* 😂 *would you mind to check me out?* it means everything to me! 😋😊
Best trilogy in the history of the cinema. Aged like a fine wine.
I’m still blown away by just how well it still holds up.
Is like p*rn but better, if I were to hold boobs irl or watch lotr, I would slap em boobs and watch lotr, it gives me the absolute pleasure
Stickman Reaper weird comparison but alright
@@Ascoundrel there may be some scenes that fell short, but that doesn't take anything away from this epic trilogy
Audacious Scoundrel watched return of the king last night, still looked incredible and immersive to me. 500x better and more realistic than the hobbit trilogy
I'd like to see you guys analyze the de-aging technology in "The Irishman." Also, in "Rise of Skywalker" compare the scene of Rey taking the skiff to the Death Star wreckage with the bad Pierce Brosnan windsurfing scene.
CGI has somehow gotten worse the “better” it gets. With a lot of the MCU and newer Star Wars films, it’s so glossy and perfect that it stands out like a sore thumb. The LOTR CGI still holds up, absolutely amazing
1: The massive miniatures they used were called "Bigatures". 2: Demon Bilbo wasn't digital. It was a puppet that they spent thousands of dollars and months of work to create, and it was morphed into the picture for less than a second.
"It was seeing Gollum that actually inspired James Cameron to make Avatar."
"They were elves once, taken by the dark powers, tortured and mutilated."
That is not Gollums origin but the origin of the orcs.
Gollum was once a hobbit
@@mrcartwright85 river folk, but yes those are hobbits (:
for the shot that will make you go “oh my god!” the cockroach scene in cats
Rebecca Bartkiw what happened?
Rebecca Bartkiw it is on par with the shark attack in Jurassic shark
I think the whole film would make you go "oh my god"
Licence To Will that wasn’t that bad!!? what’s wrong about it?
What about the mouse children? A.K.A living nightmares?
I believe that Ian McKellen moment where he bumped his head by accident is actually just an urban myth. As far as I'm aware, it was intended.
HARRY POTTER NEXT!! It would be great to see the ten year evolution
Yessss!
Yesssss
Would love to see them react to Lupin's Werewolf transformation!
I agree, there's a lot of practical and cgi stuff and there's a clear evolution, would love to see that video, MAKE IT PLS!
“Shadow of Mordor is canon”
Every lotr fan that has read the books: *gollum screaming*
@@theholypopechodeii4367 Well said.
I almost hit the dislike button after they said that haha
@@theholypopechodeii4367 True. I remember that one of the review requirements for the game was to not mention Lord of the Rings, as it wasn't considered canon.
LOL i can never tell when they're making mistakes and when they're deliberately fucking with us
@The Four Horsemen They are really fun though
They're just making a series based purely off of Lord of the Rings... That's pretty nut worthy
It's set before in the Second Age. So its before Lord of the Rings, but still gonna be good.
idon'tevenknowanymore
-“ruined”
-Millions of viewers
You dumb fuck
Good thing November is over.
They’re gonna force their stupid identity politics into the series.
@idon'tevenknowanymore What was wrong with the Witcher? I didn't see any forced diversity?
This made me appreciate Lotr even more. Every single aspect of the film is expertly done - it’s not like one part (vxf or the acting) was compromised or outshines the other. They have to both be perfect to make it work
12:04 they show the most “year 2000” looking guy
Manolo Quintero 😂
Superman's airbrushed mushache is still funny after all this time.
"A wizard, aka a person."
*Nerd rage intensifies*
Oof, i didn't realise they said that
I think they just meant to say that Gandalf is human size compared to a hobbit, not to imply that he's actually human.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Mm
Picks up the Silmarillion
@@lanceturley7745 Ian mc kellen is huge compared to humans
@@hopser6620 Sir Ian is 5'11". He's slightly above average height, but I wouldn't say 'huge.'
The first five minutes where you guys discussed Gollum just sums up why the LOTR trilogy remains one of the greatest pieces of film/art of the modern age. The adversity, the hardship that the film makers (and I mean everyone involved) faced were overcome by sheer dedication and love for ones craft. It's just incredible.
The scary face bilbo bagins is actually a physical model that they morphed onto the real bilbos face
Yeah! I read about that in one of the many behind-the-scenes books I consumed (this is taking me back to my childhood!), there were VFX involved but they also replaced the face with the model. Wish I could find the photo, it was super creepy!
@@CarpeGuitarrem I believe you mean this picture?
imgur.com/un8bV
Now that's some damn good model making
"..that upper lip animation-"
*gets a ChapStick commercial*
Me: Yeah...I see. That looks great.
These effects still hold up incredibly well, whereas when I watch other films from that time, their VFX shots don't stand up to modern scrutiny. The care that went into it makes it timeless.
These movies are such a masterpiece through and through.. my dad first introduced me to the triology when I was 6 and now 16 years later I still love them to death
Watch
"Valerian and the city of a thousand planets"
Goddamn that is a terrible movie. General concept is fine and CGI is great but those two lead actors were so unbelievably I turned after like twenty mins
David Kymdell what a disappointment that movie was
Cant deny the cgi tho
The whole concept of that movie was great. But I don’t think models should be actors/actresses if they can’t act.
@@davidkymdell452 totally agree. I thought the movie and special fx were awesome but the acting sucked.
I still want to see Corridor Crew react to The Dark Crystal: Age Of Resistance and its INSANE blending of CGI, models, and muppets.
I second the motion! I feel like they were still able to keep to the practical roots while still allowing the CGI to enhance the puppets performances.
Oh mah gah, YES!!
Let's be honest, that one shot of Bilbo being evil was the scariest thing in the entire LOTR film series
It's up there for sure
The parts of Andy in the water at the start isn't just him in the water. It's also the fact that they had to use water pumps to melt the snow and ice for him to be able to do this scene in sub freezing temperature water FOR THIS SCENE. That dude is a machine. You see the BTS videos of the others doing fight scenes etc, but this due literally swam in an ice cold stream for this scene. That's dedication.
All this tells me is that not only the Special Effects of Lord of the Rings were an incredible achievement... but that Andy Serkis is a freaking force of nature. Hat off to this artist!
For my birthday this year, my daughter learned "Concerning Hobbits" on the tin whistle. She played it for me while I was opening presents.
Lucky you! 👏🏻
best daughter ever😊😊
@@beamishpirikahu3145 Agreed.
LOTR is a complete masterpiece! They don't make movies like them anymore
They pretty much didn't make movies like them before either :/
that's because when they do, mainstream audiences shoot em down. like Man of Steel and Batman v Superman. both masterclasses in terms of production and both heavily layered in metaphor, allegory, ideology, and character analysis. But because they aren't making Tony stark "hide the zucchini" jokes, people hate them. the reason we don't get authentic sincere films is because people are actively hating on them.
The achievement of this film is not just its good visual effects. It's the perfect blend of practical and digital elements. It's how they put them together seamlessly so that there's enough grounded in reality to keep it believable. The entire crew of that film is remarkable and made one of the greatest achievements of film
I saw lord of the rings and i've never clicked so fast
Same
Same, one does not simply ignore a LOTR video!
What’s funny is Two Towers is playing on TNT right now!
Not same.
Cats. Cats. Cats!
Their feet “touching” the ground is HORRENDOUS.
I also want them to react to JIGSAW
Corridor: doesn’t make an episode per movie
Me: why would u do that
That's what I was thinking, there's too much to sum up in two videos. I'm also hoping they review the Hobbit.
Faith if I recall correctly, they said they would. Especially because people wanted a comparison between LotR and the Hobbit
My disappointment immeasurable and my day is ruined
They said in a past video that they would do multiple videos for the franchise since everyone really wanted them to do it.
They'll have to end up doing it in 3 just like how Peter Jackson had to do the Hobbit in 3......wait
When is I walked out of the theater after watching the Hobbit, I was left with the puzzling question; Why did LOTR look so much better than this?
Fact:
That man in the back of them is CGI
That's because their background set is an elaborate miniature. They had to add things that move so it didn't feel so lifeless.
incog nitor Charles Gunther Idleburg in the flesh
"R.I.P.D." When they're chasing that fat guy
Yes that movie was so hilarious
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Good idea
That would be awesome, i love that movie
The effects in these movies are not CG, they are goddamn Renissance paintings brought to life.
LOTR is the single greatest achievement in the cinematic history. Many movies come and go but this trilogy will remain in everyone's hearts forever. It has become a tradition for me to atleast visit these films once a while.
Gandalf: "Frodo my boy, could you be a dear hobbit and pass the salt."
Frodo: "HYAH!"
Salt: *thud* lands halfway there
Make a rated R version of “Threat Level Midnight” from The Office
Conor Gillen lol That would be awesome.
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yes !!!
yes! XD
That would be epic!!!
Without doubt the greatest trilogy of all time.
Honestly better than Star Wars. People just have rose tinted glasses
MADDAZZA 95
Some argue that with the Two Towers the trilogy dips and looses momentum, but it’s definitely top three, with the Toy Story and Before trilogies.
Weasle
Of course people have Rose tinted glasses. Star Wars was a revolutionary evolution in visual effects and had an amazing story to go along with them, so, those rose tinted glasses have a good reason to be there.
Itakafu TLJ was awful lol
Star Wars is a joke compared to lotr
Imagine playing d&d on the miniature sets they used.
Holy crap, that won't fit on any table owned by mortal men.
What's d&d? English isn't my first language.
@@isaacnewton7424 Dungeons and Dragons
@@ekamonthewise2395 oh
SUCKER PUNCH! That movie is a gold mine of good and bad CGI
YES THIS MOVIE
Yeah. The story of the movie was wack, but the scenery was so damn good
@@masterzoroark6664 the story is good
I feel like it's intentional at this point??
I love Sucker Punch, it's just so cheesy.
“Mario’s mushroom getting big.”
😳
😂.......sorry, i read "mushrooms getting big" , and my mind thinked...penis..hahahaahahahahahaajaj
“Ey Fucka yuu!!”-mario
"You might wonder why they used miniatures instead of full cgi."
Miniatures Looks and ages better
CGI looks just as good now
@@BadgerStyler not always.
Well yeah, of course. But for a shot like the one of Rivendell, a big studio could easily recreate that perfectly without any miniatures now
It always depends on the right mix. But they should do more things practical today.
If they would make the battle for Helm's Deep today, it would be a single, artificial-looking CGI-fest.
or watch the Indiana Jones films. Does the 4th part look better because it uses CGI? Of course not. A lot of filmmakers just got lazy. Filming a chase in front of a green screen and simply leaving the rest to the effects company for months is easier than elaborate choeographies, hire a bunch of stunt people, long rehearsals and shut off streets including permits, insurance, transportation of tons of material and so on.
@@rolanddeschain6089 Whoever saw movies like Spartacus or Laurence of Arabia with hundreds or even thousands of troops knows real life people and especially real horses will never look as realistic in CGI.