This definitely looked like more trouble than it was worth, especially since the ribbon cables didn't come precut. It is good to see you were able to make it work, despite some of the issues and the end result. I think you should try out the newer capture system you talked about in the end, especially considering some of the more notable benefits that brings compared to this one you had just installed. I've been looking into installing a capture board on my 3ds for a while and if the new one you talked about at the end works well, I might just go for that instead.
This mod for me seriously make emulation even more worth it, I know that Im leaving a lot on the table, but if I want to enjoy my 3DS in a monitor or TV, I would fire up Citra 100% of the times instead of opening up my real 3DS to do that mod
12:06 Last month I actually got my New Nintendo 3DS XL modded with that exact USB C capture card and it works much better than the snicker-stream wireless option. Also it didn’t have any strange color distortion like the one you did. I highly recommend that you test that one out because it seems to be the best one out on the market right now.
Taki Udon did a video on a recent rumor about an OLED and video out mod for the switch lite. I'm super excited to see that. I hope that turns into a Techwave in the near future.
Love seeing these 3DS mods. My dream mod would be to have a USB-C mod that completely replaces the present charging port. Then from there, get this one USB-C port to do three things: 1. Charge the 3DS 2. Be able to output AV over a USB-C to HDMI cable 3. Be able to work with Wii U homebrew to where you plug the 3DS into the Wii U via USB-C to USB-A and be able to play 3DS games on your Wii U using the GamePad as the bottom touch screen and controller and the TV as the top screen or to display both screens at the same time for video capture. I know there's some homebrew out there that let's you wirelessly stream your 3DS at 30 fps to the Wii U and send inputs back to the 3DS but the idea of having a stable wired connection at 60 fps on Wii U is just really enticing to me. I have the official Nintendo new3DS XL charging dock and I always imagined if it had a USB-C connector that it could be like a Switch dock for the 3DS, a 3DS Player dock like the old Game Boy Player. Oh and for the few who have 3D displays, it'd be nice to have 3D video output via HDMI or Wii U.
You would have to be a genius or a very dedicated individual to do all of these by yourself, however, I cheer for your dream and wish you the best on your work!
You lost me at cutting out the ribbon cables, on top of soldering next to the main chip 😅 Good on you for doing this mod, though. Definitely not one I'd be willing to do myself.
I went and sent my 3ds to the guy you mentioned modsville told you about and I can tell you that having that charging while outputting video is fantastic!
Elliott Coll just did a video on a couple of systems with capture cards and there was just a setting on the PC he changed to make the bottom screen look better.
I wish I had half this guy's skills. Maybe I could fix my Original XBOX that is just sitting in the garage rotting along with all the games I can no longer play. Ugh.
I installed the newer 3DS XL capture mod mentioned at the end. You can install the mod without soldering the ribbon cable IF you don't want audio out from the USB-C port. If you're willing and able, you can output audio via the 3.5mm jack that already comes with the New 3DS XL with proper audio cables (and maybe a Ground loop isolator to drown out the static). Aside from that, the newer mod is far more easier to install and possibly less buggy than the older one form Optimize. I highly recommend it.
9:30 I bought a capture card on ebay a few years ago and had this issue too - there's a 'Calibration' option in the software that lets you adjust some of the settings until the picture looks right.
I saw a similar issue with the bottom screen on a video by Elliot from the Retro Future. He just messed with the settings on the PC application to fix it.
@@odin8214 Well, that will be happening more in the near future than anything else. Remember that usb Type-C has been set to be the standard about 7 years ago, so all these older plug types have been dropping in cost so that's why they are being used until the stock is all gone.
For anyone that has gotten the USB C mod, do you guys have issues with how hot it gets? The bottom of my 3DS gets toasty and wonder if that is causing issues as sometimes if i bump the cable it disconnects for a sec. I paid to send it in and have it modded i didnt do it myself
Loopy's N3DSXL kit is solderless if you don't need onboard audio and its pretty easy if you don't mind a little soldering. Only $120 and it's based in the US with sellers in UK. You can ship you console to him to get it done for only $80+shipping. You cant beat that anywhere.
Why wouldn't they pre-cut the ribbon cables? That looks like way too much trouble for a personal DOY project. I wouldn't even bother with it no matter how skilled I was.
@@caramellesweggose Well, the wireless option is garbage. Low quality and frame drops. At least that is what I experienced last time I tried it. Edit: The fact it actually works is pretty cool. It just ain't good for actually capturing gameplay.
I have one of these kits in my 3DS LL and I love it, fortunately I live in Japan and was able to send my system in to have it installed for me though. I consider myself pretty good at soldering and do most console mods myself, but I didn't even want to risk it with this one. Good on you for giving it a shot!
I have a merki capture card (for my 2DSXL) and I paid to have him install it. It's been working fine for 4 years with audio and video, only issue is that it requires specific windows software and drivers to be viewed which kinda sucks.
I’m not sure if there’s any retailers for 3ds capture cards anymore. Katsukity and Merkai were the two that did them regularly outside of the Americas. Loopy3ds did old3ds models, but I am not sure if any of them still manufacture them anymore. I’d recommend just either sending your 3ds out to get modded or just getting a new one sent to you with the capture card installed already.
Couple years a go was a Tokio based brand that sold N3DS with a similar kit or installed it on your own console in a couple hours, and they instal the capture usb c port on the existing charger (you can play and charge it at same time) or replace the infrared port with it. Unfortunately were sued by Nintendo and the brand disappeared, you can buy one for a former owner but they’re insanely expensive. Also there is an alternative to stream from a software moded console, but its a bit laggy depending your network speed connection
Thank you for this video!! Happy Super Bowl Sunday everyone! Have an awesome day!! Comment on who ya got tonight for the championship. Thank you once again Spawnwave!
While I haven't used it in quite some time, I don't remember having any real problems with it. I just followed the instructions and it worked fine for me. Only major problem was that it didn't stream audio, but you can just plug in an aux cord for that.@@starliht7741
The problem with the bottom screen looks to be a calibration error in the 3DS streaming software on your PC, if you would mess with the bottom screen settings I'm sure you'd be able to fix it! Coming from experience with the same card!
It would be super cool to have the top screen on a TV and be able to use something like a retro handheld or switch lite as a controller with a touchscreen
Please order the updated version and do a video with that. I would love to try the newer more user friendly option. Cutting the ribbon cables is a bit daunting. Great content as always!
This card looks like a huge pain in the ass to install, the new card mentioned at the end of the video is definitely more worth it. The only soldering needed for the new card are the two wires for power and charging then the audio pins which can even be skipped if you'd rather use an AUX cable. It also fits enough inside the console to where you only need to sand that general area down to about half way rather than cutting the entire part of the shell out.
Getting USB-C charging AND video-out, all from one port, sounds amazing for a 3DS. That’s perfection as far as I’m concerned. The difficulty seems worth it for that.
I want an HDMI out for my 2DS, but not only are those impossible to buy pre-built, the kits aren't even sold anymore either. Emulating is not worth it for games that use the touch screen.
I'd be interested if the installation wasn't such a horror. The AyaNeo Flip DS has been mentioned before, that sounds like the much nicer choice despite emulation.
Nintendo in the current partner direct, they stated games for the first half of this year. They usually don’t state games for the first half of the year state games for the year but never just the first half specifically that would be my indicator that it’ll be this year.
I've installed a few of these and they aren't easy! You can connect it to a TV directly using a raspberry pi with the correct image. You can also use a wireless controller over wifi if you install CFW. Enjoy!
the 3dscapture is better for this (and they offer an install process) it also supports audio output via the usb-c and both screens are captured properly i have one in my 3ds systems and have no issue with it also its by loopy which is a well known member in the ds/3ds modding scene you can trust it will be done well its also been around for a long time (as you can tell from the site using an image of a regular old 3ds), he no longer offers for any system but n3dsxl but its still neat theres also a ds phat one offered but it does not output audio and youre going to want to ground the audio connection if you want the annoying (but almost unnoticeable) popping gone (its mostly only noticeable when the system is off) also the audio can be captured with the system muted and both the speakers and headphone jack are functional still after having it done
When I first saw the thumbnail I thought it was going to be the kit you showed at the end of the vid. That’s the one I have and it looks way easier to install than your kit.
These mods seem pretty cool, but I wish that a true HDMI mod solution could be made available. I'd love to see a similar concept, but with HDMI output to plug into a computer monitor or TV.
It's too bad if you do it the easy way. Use a metal ruler/guide and a fresh Exacto blade. You mark the ends of the cut by first pressing down straight through the ribbon to cut it. Line up the ruler, and one clean slice down against it. If it doesn't cut through fully, just rescore over it until it's free. If you need a video guide, just watch some people cut out small decals for scale models; same concept. Doing it free hand with a big razor like this is way harder.
Save yourself the trouble and just get a steam deck and use the emulator that allows you to play 3ds games hooked up to a tv. You still get the duel screen support and can play on a tv. Something I usually prefer to do.
The bottom screen looking like that is a software problem not hardware thankfully, if you go into the Calibration menu there's a bunch of settings you can adjust and one of them should be an option to fix the bottom screen. I have one of these kits so I know the struggle of getting everything to work perfectly.
Someone on Twitter already suggested a newer, better and easier to install screen grabber to Jon. And he said he will try to get his hands on one. BUT, he didn't say if this will be a video or not and the new set usually takes some time to arrive.
This definitely looked like more trouble than it was worth, especially since the ribbon cables didn't come precut. It is good to see you were able to make it work, despite some of the issues and the end result.
I think you should try out the newer capture system you talked about in the end, especially considering some of the more notable benefits that brings compared to this one you had just installed. I've been looking into installing a capture board on my 3ds for a while and if the new one you talked about at the end works well, I might just go for that instead.
This mod for me seriously make emulation even more worth it, I know that Im leaving a lot on the table, but if I want to enjoy my 3DS in a monitor or TV, I would fire up Citra 100% of the times instead of opening up my real 3DS to do that mod
12:06 Last month I actually got my New Nintendo 3DS XL modded with that exact USB C capture card and it works much better than the snicker-stream wireless option. Also it didn’t have any strange color distortion like the one you did. I highly recommend that you test that one out because it seems to be the best one out on the market right now.
I love how literally no one has ever in the history of these mods has ever bothered to make the usb cut precise.
There is one, he did a really good job. Took over an hour to slowly and carefully file away the hole. It was for usbc mod
But that's effort and he wanted to save some for the soldering
Taki Udon did a video on a recent rumor about an OLED and video out mod for the switch lite. I'm super excited to see that. I hope that turns into a Techwave in the near future.
Love seeing these 3DS mods. My dream mod would be to have a USB-C mod that completely replaces the present charging port. Then from there, get this one USB-C port to do three things:
1. Charge the 3DS
2. Be able to output AV over a USB-C to HDMI cable
3. Be able to work with Wii U homebrew to where you plug the 3DS into the Wii U via USB-C to USB-A and be able to play 3DS games on your Wii U using the GamePad as the bottom touch screen and controller and the TV as the top screen or to display both screens at the same time for video capture.
I know there's some homebrew out there that let's you wirelessly stream your 3DS at 30 fps to the Wii U and send inputs back to the 3DS but the idea of having a stable wired connection at 60 fps on Wii U is just really enticing to me. I have the official Nintendo new3DS XL charging dock and I always imagined if it had a USB-C connector that it could be like a Switch dock for the 3DS, a 3DS Player dock like the old Game Boy Player. Oh and for the few who have 3D displays, it'd be nice to have 3D video output via HDMI or Wii U.
The german installer have that as an option
This already exists at least for the first two. Look up fingercramp mods
You would have to be a genius or a very dedicated individual to do all of these by yourself, however, I cheer for your dream and wish you the best on your work!
Wow, you spent a lot of time thinking about this huh
bottom screen can be fixed in the software, this definitely isn’t something you did wrong hardware-wise
This looks like absolute hell. Props to you for sticking with it.
You lost me at cutting out the ribbon cables, on top of soldering next to the main chip 😅 Good on you for doing this mod, though. Definitely not one I'd be willing to do myself.
I went and sent my 3ds to the guy you mentioned modsville told you about and I can tell you that having that charging while outputting video is fantastic!
Elliott Coll just did a video on a couple of systems with capture cards and there was just a setting on the PC he changed to make the bottom screen look better.
I wish I had half this guy's skills. Maybe I could fix my Original XBOX that is just sitting in the garage rotting along with all the games I can no longer play. Ugh.
I installed the newer 3DS XL capture mod mentioned at the end. You can install the mod without soldering the ribbon cable IF you don't want audio out from the USB-C port. If you're willing and able, you can output audio via the 3.5mm jack that already comes with the New 3DS XL with proper audio cables (and maybe a Ground loop isolator to drown out the static).
Aside from that, the newer mod is far more easier to install and possibly less buggy than the older one form Optimize. I highly recommend it.
9:30 I bought a capture card on ebay a few years ago and had this issue too - there's a 'Calibration' option in the software that lets you adjust some of the settings until the picture looks right.
You should see if you can change the bottom screen clock speed in the PC software and see if that fixes the color issues.
I saw a similar issue with the bottom screen on a video by Elliot from the Retro Future. He just messed with the settings on the PC application to fix it.
Wait what? Glasses still coming in the mail?
Its been a year🤣
All digital Jon
They got leaked to someone else's face.
@@youwayoAll (adorably) digital Jon.
@SpawnWave Yes, please make a video with the second mod kit you mentioned. Thank you.
Yes, do that new capture card with USB-C, please.
Yeah please do order the better kit, interested in how difficult that one is
Yea, I believe this is the hardest capture kit. Loopy’s kit is much easier to install
I’m definitely interested in that new USB-C one, would love to see if it’s something that can be pulled off with a bit less fine soldering
Would love a video on the new kit. :)
I hope theres a variation on the future that uses a mini hdmi or mini display port on the card instead of a micro-usb.
man i hate mini i wish it was just a all in one usb c type of thing booth charging and display outpout on the same port.
@@odin8214 Well, that will be happening more in the near future than anything else. Remember that usb Type-C has been set to be the standard about 7 years ago, so all these older plug types have been dropping in cost so that's why they are being used until the stock is all gone.
For anyone that has gotten the USB C mod, do you guys have issues with how hot it gets? The bottom of my 3DS gets toasty and wonder if that is causing issues as sometimes if i bump the cable it disconnects for a sec. I paid to send it in and have it modded i didnt do it myself
Honestly you should have gotten the loopy new 3dsxl capture board it's alot easier
3:29 oooof. Looks like you sliced right into cooper line. Why did you slice so close?
The card you showed at the end was what I was hoping this video was about
Yes we do want to see the new video output 3dsxl mod. If that one if actually not too bad I would actually buy it
And this is when I pull out the emulator!! Spawn Wave is a beast!
happy to see the 3ds mod community growing up
still waiting for custom reshells and hinges lmao
Loopy's N3DSXL kit is solderless if you don't need onboard audio and its pretty easy if you don't mind a little soldering. Only $120 and it's based in the US with sellers in UK. You can ship you console to him to get it done for only $80+shipping. You cant beat that anywhere.
I swear some companies create those kinds of kits only to challenge you.
I did not skip the sponsor part for you man! Keep up the good work!
you do realize it doesnt help him unless you buy something right?
@@BooleanDevThe extra viewing time itself is helping him.
Why wouldn't they pre-cut the ribbon cables? That looks like way too much trouble for a personal DOY project. I wouldn't even bother with it no matter how skilled I was.
This project screams "get a professional to do this installation".
This is neat, but looks like a nightmare. Maybe it is time to get into 3DS emulation, hmm...
See thats the problem with handhelds like these. You can never really get the same experience on emulator due to all the custom stuff with the system.
@@ryan20028switch will join the issues
Or with modded you can just stream wirelessly
@@caramellesweggose Well, the wireless option is garbage. Low quality and frame drops. At least that is what I experienced last time I tried it.
Edit:
The fact it actually works is pretty cool. It just ain't good for actually capturing gameplay.
@@Ozzianmanit isn’t you just suck. Skill issue
I have one of these kits in my 3DS LL and I love it, fortunately I live in Japan and was able to send my system in to have it installed for me though. I consider myself pretty good at soldering and do most console mods myself, but I didn't even want to risk it with this one. Good on you for giving it a shot!
I have a merki capture card (for my 2DSXL) and I paid to have him install it. It's been working fine for 4 years with audio and video, only issue is that it requires specific windows software and drivers to be viewed which kinda sucks.
I just saw and Elliot Coll video where the bottom screen colour looked off until a value was changed, the clock speed maybe.
Wow congrats on that build. I would love to see you try the newer capture thing !
Low volume in this one somehow
I’m not sure if there’s any retailers for 3ds capture cards anymore. Katsukity and Merkai were the two that did them regularly outside of the Americas. Loopy3ds did old3ds models, but I am not sure if any of them still manufacture them anymore. I’d recommend just either sending your 3ds out to get modded or just getting a new one sent to you with the capture card installed already.
Couple years a go was a Tokio based brand that sold N3DS with a similar kit or installed it on your own console in a couple hours, and they instal the capture usb c port on the existing charger (you can play and charge it at same time) or replace the infrared port with it. Unfortunately were sued by Nintendo and the brand disappeared, you can buy one for a former owner but they’re insanely expensive. Also there is an alternative to stream from a software moded console, but its a bit laggy depending your network speed connection
Once he said “LEVEL 5” I was like “yeah nope” 😂
I guess my dreams of playing 3ds games on the tv will remain dreams
This is one of those mods which I would *love to do* but this is genuinely way to advanced for even good solderers
Yes! More 3ds content!
I love my 3DS. Recently I’ve been playing it a lot and it’s crazy all the features it has compared to the Switch. More 3DS mods please.
I really like these types of videos. Thank You!!
I’d love to see the other mod update as well. I’m still a huge 3DS user and this video out capability is awesome!
I enjoy these videos. A nice break from all the drama in the gaming industry.
Thank you for this video!! Happy Super Bowl Sunday everyone! Have an awesome day!! Comment on who ya got tonight for the championship. Thank you once again Spawnwave!
I think I'd rather use snickerstream to do video capture over Wi-Fi on my custom firmware 3DS. It's a lot easier than this. Still cool though.
I wish it was easy, Tons of People Including me Can't get it ever working Correctly is the issue And nobody has any solutions to this so....
While I haven't used it in quite some time, I don't remember having any real problems with it. I just followed the instructions and it worked fine for me. Only major problem was that it didn't stream audio, but you can just plug in an aux cord for that.@@starliht7741
Problem is the connection with it is rather terrible.
Ok this was way outside of my skill set.
I’ve been waiting for this one Jon 💪🏻💪🏻
I would have used a replacement back shell to keep the OEM shell in tact
The problem with the bottom screen looks to be a calibration error in the 3DS streaming software on your PC, if you would mess with the bottom screen settings I'm sure you'd be able to fix it! Coming from experience with the same card!
Got to get yourself an Exacto Knife 😅
Looks great at the TV, wonder if the other kit one will look that good?
It would be super cool to have the top screen on a TV and be able to use something like a retro handheld or switch lite as a controller with a touchscreen
Watching you cut this with a razor blade already pisses me off and I didn’t even attempt this lmao
Please order the updated version and do a video with that. I would love to try the newer more user friendly option. Cutting the ribbon cables is a bit daunting. Great content as always!
That mod looks painfully difficult. Hope it gets a revision or 3.
Hope you wore those safets glasses when cutting with the dremel. That stuff can go south in no time.
This card looks like a huge pain in the ass to install, the new card mentioned at the end of the video is definitely more worth it. The only soldering needed for the new card are the two wires for power and charging then the audio pins which can even be skipped if you'd rather use an AUX cable. It also fits enough inside the console to where you only need to sand that general area down to about half way rather than cutting the entire part of the shell out.
I still have my modded loopy 3DS from back in the Pokemon XY days.
hey spawn wave you should do a review of the nexigo hall effect gripcon gamepad with a bulit in switch dock
Best setup on PC is Citra, two joycons or for touch screen games, one joycon in one hand and pen for a drawing tablet in the other.
The one shown at the end looks like Loopy's site; and those are the best around. But it depends on their availablity.
Definitely would be keen to seen the updated more refined kit
Oof, you had me until "Micro USB".
Getting USB-C charging AND video-out, all from one port, sounds amazing for a 3DS. That’s perfection as far as I’m concerned. The difficulty seems worth it for that.
I hope you do a follow up on the USB-C capture card and compare the two.
Definitely would like to see you try the other mod out as well.
I want an HDMI out for my 2DS, but not only are those impossible to buy pre-built, the kits aren't even sold anymore either. Emulating is not worth it for games that use the touch screen.
So someone watched squid game and they were like hay let's have fun with our customers
I would have a stroke trying to put this mid together 🤣
I'd be interested if the installation wasn't such a horror.
The AyaNeo Flip DS has been mentioned before, that sounds like the much nicer choice despite emulation.
Nintendo in the current partner direct, they stated games for the first half of this year. They usually don’t state games for the first half of the year state games for the year but never just the first half specifically that would be my indicator that it’ll be this year.
Try that other kit 👍🏻👍🏻
I'd be interested to see you install the newer version you mentioned of this if you do decide to get it. Good video!
I've installed a few of these and they aren't easy! You can connect it to a TV directly using a raspberry pi with the correct image. You can also use a wireless controller over wifi if you install CFW. Enjoy!
I didn’t think you’d try this one
I wouldn't butcher a 3ds like that.
Yeeessss YEEEESSSSS!!! 3DS VIDEO WOOOOOO
the 3dscapture is better for this (and they offer an install process)
it also supports audio output via the usb-c and both screens are captured properly
i have one in my 3ds systems and have no issue with it
also its by loopy which is a well known member in the ds/3ds modding scene you can trust it will be done well
its also been around for a long time (as you can tell from the site using an image of a regular old 3ds), he no longer offers for any system but n3dsxl but its still neat
theres also a ds phat one offered but it does not output audio and youre going to want to ground the audio connection if you want the annoying (but almost unnoticeable) popping gone (its mostly only noticeable when the system is off)
also the audio can be captured with the system muted and both the speakers and headphone jack are functional still after having it done
When I first saw the thumbnail I thought it was going to be the kit you showed at the end of the vid. That’s the one I have and it looks way easier to install than your kit.
These mods seem pretty cool, but I wish that a true HDMI mod solution could be made available. I'd love to see a similar concept, but with HDMI output to plug into a computer monitor or TV.
Cutting out the ribbon cables... yeah no way. The newer capture card seems promising though. Would love to see an installation of that one.
It's too bad if you do it the easy way. Use a metal ruler/guide and a fresh Exacto blade. You mark the ends of the cut by first pressing down straight through the ribbon to cut it. Line up the ruler, and one clean slice down against it. If it doesn't cut through fully, just rescore over it until it's free. If you need a video guide, just watch some people cut out small decals for scale models; same concept. Doing it free hand with a big razor like this is way harder.
I wonder if they got a kit for the New Nintendo 2DS system.
As far as your USB c port is concerned, you can fill it in with an epoxy and then paint it. I'm not sure about the hole exposing the PCB, though.
Extreme difficulty? But Antdude assured me repeatedly that it's surprisingly easy to mod a Nintendo 3DS!
Save yourself the trouble and just get a steam deck and use the emulator that allows you to play 3ds games hooked up to a tv. You still get the duel screen support and can play on a tv. Something I usually prefer to do.
The bottom screen looking like that is a software problem not hardware thankfully, if you go into the Calibration menu there's a bunch of settings you can adjust and one of them should be an option to fix the bottom screen. I have one of these kits so I know the struggle of getting everything to work perfectly.
I really want to do this as well as a controller port mod. Even put it in a custom case to consolize it
Someone on Twitter already suggested a newer, better and easier to install screen grabber to Jon. And he said he will try to get his hands on one.
BUT, he didn't say if this will be a video or not and the new set usually takes some time to arrive.
I'd really like to see a video with the newer one, mainly to see the difference in installation.
Yeah!...get that possibly better option to install...looking forward to it....
I don't understand how you know how to do all of this I have to say it's very impressive
Would be good to see how the new one is installed