TEKKEN's Backdash Over the Last 2 Decades

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  • Опубліковано 23 жов 2023
  • You can see it getting progressively worse and worse. Gee I wonder why...?
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  • @sherryasq
    @sherryasq 6 місяців тому +12

    Harada: In the name of aggressive play style, i shall nerf back dashing to the ground

    • @Athena4Lyfe
      @Athena4Lyfe  6 місяців тому +1

      Sometimes I really wish Harada knew how to play his own game...

    • @romzen
      @romzen 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Athena4Lyfe An effective option can still be bad gamedesign.

    • @Athena4Lyfe
      @Athena4Lyfe  6 місяців тому

      @@romzen bad game design to who exactly?

    • @romzen
      @romzen 6 місяців тому +5

      @@Athena4Lyfe It is objectively bad game design.
      1) Because it is not intended, it is by definition bad design.
      2) KBD is a horrofic wrist movement. Nothing about it is ergonomic or intuitive. Pretty much any other other game is fine allowing spamming back repeatedly. There is no reason to overcomplicate a basic movement concept.
      3) KBD for the longest time was mandatory for competitive play. But fighting games are competitive from the lowest skill levels onwards. It is a an absolutely hideous arbitrary skill to master in order to compete with higher level legacy players. This splits the community and raises the bar for competition for all beginners who may fall in love with the game otherwise.
      4) Modern fighting games are less about running away. They are about zoning. If you want your product (game) to succeed these days you must adhere to the trends. Also Tekken was never about zoning with projectiles and perpetual gain of space. But KBD enables the most frustrating playstyles having to deal with in Tekken that also do not make any sense from a logical perspective. If you are on the defense and running, then you should not be rewarded with a stronger offense as your opponent wastes his time closing the gap. But KBD does exactly that.
      Overall: Absolute shit design. Whether intended or not.

    • @brianmarrero5147
      @brianmarrero5147 6 місяців тому

      ​@romzen let me guess, you don't KBD

  • @polishsausage648
    @polishsausage648 6 місяців тому +11

    Always nice to see you doing backdash with your boy Kazuya!

    • @Athena4Lyfe
      @Athena4Lyfe  6 місяців тому +3

      He’s not my boy 😭😭😭

    • @polishsausage648
      @polishsausage648 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Athena4Lyfe He really is!!!

    • @Athena4Lyfe
      @Athena4Lyfe  6 місяців тому +2

      @@polishsausage648 😭😭😭 why meeeeee

  • @shawnz12ss
    @shawnz12ss 6 місяців тому +9

    The drop off for 8 crazy man look like his knees don’t work

    • @Athena4Lyfe
      @Athena4Lyfe  6 місяців тому

      That is the funniest yet most saddest thing I’ve ever heard 😭

    • @VamosLa.
      @VamosLa. 6 місяців тому

      I mean Kaz is old as F at this point

  • @justanannepfp9814
    @justanannepfp9814 6 місяців тому +6

    I think they shouldnt nerf
    In fact, give everyone great movement buffs
    Movement adds so much to a gameplay and makes it more complex
    If everyone is on giga-speed, then there shouldnt be complaints.

  • @TreWillz
    @TreWillz 6 місяців тому

    Nerfing KBD is something that can be debated upon. But nerfing overall movement was extremely bad imo. Now nerfing movement in itself wasnt terrible on it’s own. But they buffed the power of the buttons. There are literally homing, mid, counter hits launchers that are safe on block. Basically Kazuya’s df+2 on steroids. Moves do a lot of damage and knock down or stagger. Or they are extremely plus ok block forcing you into a mix up. The reason I played Tekken over SF, DBFZ, Guilty Gear or MK is because of the Y axis movement. I dont have to sit there and guess low or overhead. I can simply step out of the pressure. That’s becoming less and less true.

  • @blazinmatt1660
    @blazinmatt1660 6 місяців тому +1

    It feels sluggish now... 😅

    • @Athena4Lyfe
      @Athena4Lyfe  6 місяців тому +1

      Very obviously nerfed 🙃

    • @FutureWorldX
      @FutureWorldX 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Athena4Lyfebut then Rooflemonger said that normal backdashing (not KBD, just pressing back multiple times) was buffed when compared to Tekken 7 when he played the beta test.

    • @Athena4Lyfe
      @Athena4Lyfe  6 місяців тому +1

      @@FutureWorldX yeah it was which we've never had before in previous Tekken games. This is a change I am very happy with, it seems to have been buffed since the CNT.

    • @FutureWorldX
      @FutureWorldX 6 місяців тому

      @@Athena4Lyfe yeah, let's hope that KBD and sidestepping are improved, but not to the point where people start turtling and waiting until the end of the round.

    • @blazinmatt1660
      @blazinmatt1660 5 місяців тому

      @FutureWorldX I wanna turtle and play rush down at the same time. Give me my freedom!! Lol

  • @LEWfromdaHOU
    @LEWfromdaHOU 6 місяців тому

    Is this that korean backdashing thing people be talking about?

  • @romzen
    @romzen 6 місяців тому

    It is a bug and they are phasing it out. Best way to deal with this imho.

  • @pedroroma933
    @pedroroma933 6 місяців тому

    Nerf kbd and buff side stepping. Sounds great to me. 😊