Something tells me Heihachi is fine. They throw each other into a volcano on rotation at least once a week. Should be Jin's turn this Friday, actually. Edit: There are two types of responses to the reply thread here. Those that understood that I was making a joke, and how no one really stays dead in fighting games. And those who are being smart asses. Edit 2: Well I guess from the more recent comments, Heihachi really is back. Huh, neat!
Heihachi died from the final punch. His heart stopped. Being thrown into the volcano was just extra, and I guess Kazuya making sure his body couldn't be sampled. Kazuya died when thrown into the volcano. However due to the Devil Gene, enough of him remained intact for G Corp to use and revive him. Heihachi, unfortunately for his fans, possesses no such gene. Also keep in mind that Heihachi was severely weakened due to Akuma using the Shun Goku Satsu on him, which was the very reason why Kazuya could kill him in the first place.
Such a fucking underrated comment. I was never into the Tekken online scene like I was with other fighters but I played the story for Tekken up to T6. I believe story wise the last good Tekken game was Tekken 3. Still never found out why yoshimitsu needed a new body. Or what happened to Gon..... Nor why the doctor no longer fights.....😐🥴
Also Jack, Jack 2, Gun Jack, P.Jack were destroyed. And Jack 5, Jack 6, Jack 7 are obsolete models, and they are"victims" of replacing cycle. Dunno about Ogre/True Ogre, but i suspect he is dead too. Return of Michelle Chang is hardly doubtful also - they can bring back new young Kunimitsu but bringing back someone like Michelle Chang Jr. when we have Julia will be ridiculous 😂
Wang and baek's deaths aren't canon though, they're just what if endings. Like the entire t6 campaign story makes those 2 endings non existent cause they never interact with Azazael in it.
Well, I don't see either of them coming back in a canon game. Especially Wang. I mean the dude's over 100 years, how many human characters or even people do you know that live for so long?
@@durandlewis1382 You talking about age fiction in a game with yoshimitsu who's age is unknwon, talking bears/pandas and devils? Like don't get me wrong I LOVE tekken, but thats a poor excuse.
@@MK-vi2cm It's always siblings that come in triplets and quadruplets that _surprisingly_ get us amongst this type of storyline. How do these writers know to _shock_ us with such a plot twist? The best thing about these plot twists, is that all these doppelgangers have the same name. Like how George Foreman named his kids. #ShouldaKnown
It was powerful seeing Heihachi shed a tear after killing Kazumi. The moment when he lost his humanity. Sure he’s shown to soft to a very select few. But his ability to truly love died with her
kazumi was an idiot. youd think she'd kill heihachi in his sleep but she announced her intent while heihachi was most likely just about to start training.
I think that was poorly done. She's supposed to be this threatening super powerful demon final boss yet... she can't get out of his one handed grip? Just from normal goofy looking young heihachi? She sent him flying at the start, I guess the logic is that she got weakened during the fight... still could have been done better though.
@@wasabi5338she was planning to kill him in his sleep when they're super old and had great grandchildren already. Devil Gene madness just ruined that plan
If you think about it, Heihachi was portrayed as an antagonist, seeking to regain control of the Mishima Zaibatsu and eliminate his son Kazuya and his grandson, Jin Kazama. However as the story unfolds, it becomes clear that Heihachi’s actions were driven in part that his grief and guilt over their devil consumed wife and son.
Nah, it’s a ret-con. In Tekken 3, and 4 he wanted the Devil Gene for himself. Kazuya being more evil than Heihachi has been a thing since Tekken 2, but he’s always been evil till all of a sudden he wasn’t in 7.
W0LF B3AT5 Heihachi was always a villain, but Harada did retcon the plot in Tekken 7 to make him look like a martyr only because he is his favorite character.
Wang was in T7 Just non playable. During the Mishima saga mode. The reporter goes to see an "old man" who tells him about the devil. If you listen to the voice carefully and the way he sings the poem you will clock it is Wang Jinrei.
Actually Baek Doo San and Wang Jinrei never got killed by Azazel It is not canon so they will come back They never encountered Azazel in Scenario Campaign Only Jin Kazama encountered him
Well, hopefully they died at some point during the events of Tekken 7. Two characters we don't need back and wont be missed. They need to get rid of Bob and Miguel too while they're at it.
@@Burning_Typhoon no They did not their endings is not canon only Heihachi Mishima Kazumi Mishima Jinpachi Mishima and Ogre are dead not Baek Doo San and Wang Jinrei
Lars Alexanderson did as well. Though neither he nor Jin died as a result of the fight so you're still in the clear for being correct. (I just like making sure ya boi gets his recognition)
But those characters that "died" after battle Azazel are not dead at all. The one who fought against Azazel was Jin/Devil Jin, hence the reason why Zafina absorbed what remained of Azazel's power after she got the orb, as shown in Devil Jin's ending. Her presence in Tekken 7 and her new powers are proof of that.
It really pisses me off seeing how people think Wang and Baek are dead. Any T6 Arcade endings with post-defeat of Azazel aren't canon. The only Azazel ending that is canon is Devil Jin's. How do we know this? Well after Devil Jin picked up the orb (Azazel's Heart) it reverted him back to Jin, and who was there after that? Zafina, she was the one who took Azazel's orb. That's why she has it in Tekken 7. That's just one example of an arcade ending being canon. Unless explicitly stated or said otherwise by Harada or Michael Murray...then Baek and Wang aren't dead or alive, but *missing* . Also to the people who said Jun died, she also went missing. It's not a retcon.
Every ending that have to do with Azazel and the temple are arcade endings which are non canon. Jin never turned devil in the campaign which is canon to Tekken 6. Devil Jin is more of a side character that's connected to Jin.
Kuma 1 died of old age, jack is an emotion aI but the models are usually destroyed after the new model is successful and Jane put jack 2 into the test model. Jack 2 killed prototype jack, the Tekken force killed gun jack, heihachi killed kazuya even though kazuya was only dead for a few days I still count it, I assume ogre was killed by jin, jinpachi was killed by heihachi, then killed by jin, Eddie wasn't able to raise money for his master's surgery in time and he died from illness, I assume Bryan killed Dr Abel in his Tekken 4 ending because he is never again, and jin killed Azazel.
Only person ogre canonically killed was King 1. They mentioned kuni, wang, Baek, Bruce, Lee, Jun, etc. It was never confirmed besides King fans are the one who stated ogre killed those name I listed for them to reappear in a later title.
I personally think that even though Wang was playable in Tekken 6, he actually died in Tekken 5 because his story mode especially the scenes with Jinpachi made so much sense it almost felt canon.
Anyone think it’s amazing how Wang was 100 years old and still maintained his strength to fight? Some people live to 100 but can’t maintain that kind of strength. Old age sucks
I thought that Armor King 1 died of a heart condition; it just happened that it got fatally triggered when he fought Marduk in the bar fight before Tekken 4.
@@Mitsu2040 Wasnt Armor King and King rivals? The second King, setted Marduk up into killing the AK 1, and he is actually a kid from the orphanage the first King took care. If i recall correctly they all get along in the end.
@@JoaoGabriel-vm8my I guess they were rivals, but when King 1 lost his money and became a drunk, it was AK 1 that motivated him to get back into it (T2). Then after Oger killed King 1, AK1 trained the current King (T3). Then Marduk killed AK1 and King 2 wanted revenge but spared him (T4). Then, for reasons I cannot fathom, King2 and Marduk became besties 😶
@@Mitsu2040 yeah, its been a while since i played it, and i dont really remember where they all became friends, but one thing i remember is that AK 1 actually died after the fight with Marduk not during it, thats why he was called out to be inocent
Wang and Baek aren't dead. Their Tekken 6 showcased a what if situation. Both never made it this far. Jin was the one and only to defeat Azazel. Many characters never met. Also Ganryu never turned into his Devil form. So Baek and Wang are alive.
Or he is, unbeknownst to himself, a holder of the devil gene as well. Perhaps Kazuyas last strike awakened it. Just imagine: Tekken 8 final boss: Devil Heihachi.
Ibr they only brought back this character for marketing they did say they want to sell alot more copies for this game and bringing back an iconic character to life as a dlc means more money for them😅
Baek and Wang are not dead. Kuma is at least the second Kuma, as the first one died. Yoshimitsu is at least the second but probably more like 4th or 5th, as that is a title of someone in their clan, and they kill them when they get too old to fight. It's part of the reason he looks so different in every game.
"when they get too old to fight." So how does that work considering each game takes place between a few years. For there to be a different yoshimitsu each game, they would have to take the title when they are already old. Its clear that 2-5 are the same yoshi considering their relationship with the doctor so its safe to assume its the same yoshi in every game.
"They get too old to fight, and they kill them" Bro...🤦🏻 Stop making things up. No where in the official Tekken storyline does it say this. Not even Harada himself has said this.
Update: Heihachi is alive. Save by the monks. It's from the Tekken 8 DLC story (Maybe Kazuya didn't saw it because probably his eyes went blurry after Heihachi gave his final headbutt to him, which affects his combat. Maybe he regains his vision after Akuma showed up)
There is just something that's so pure and innocent seeing king on tekken 1 with pixel graphics walking off to the snow .... I can't explain how inner peace it gives
Looking at T7 makes you think, “If Kazumi never attacked Heihachi, would her vision still be true?” Only time Heihachi went down the path of world domination was when his own family, Kazumi, went crazy and tried to kill him, making Heihachi question his own son in the process. Idk what happened to the relationship of Heihachi and Jinpachi tho. I like to think Heihachi instantly had the same suspicions when Jinpachi was acting funny too but that was because Jinpachi was turning to an old fart. He started having amnesia or lost of memory due to old age or something like that, and Jinpachi attacks Heihachi, thinking he’s an intruder in his home. It’s far fetched, yeah, but it would be a funny reason why Jinpachi suffered his fate at the hands of his son, being an old guy who forgets sometimes lol
@@moizali4698 she didn't afaik. You were just fighting a past version of her. Basically a "she was in the story be kinda lame if we don't let you play as her" type of deal.
Wang and beak aren’t dead… doesn’t matter how old they are, the tekken lore it’s self is ridiculous and unrealistic so Logic doesn’t even matter at this point
"doesn't matter how old they are" Smh, Baek is barely 50 which isn't even that old. Tekken fans really like to paint Baek as an old fart, my guy is pretty young. Although, I always imagined that Jinrei and Baek both retired. Jinrei is probably just babysitting his grandkids and teaching them his style, while Baek is just starting a happy family
I would like Heihachi being avaiable in Tekken 8. I don't mind if is dead. An strange revival or a memory of Kazuya. Being in every game, It Will be too sad not being in T8
Maybe they'll be another Mishima with his name in the next game. A sort of Heihachi Jr. maybe. It doesn't had to be the original Heihachi but it could be a younger nephew or a relative carrying his name in honor of him. Hey if there could be a lot of Kuma, King, Armor King, and Yoshimitsu then there should be another Heihachi as well.
@@VOANThough we got Reina as a Heihachi's Next Gen-Person. Since she's exactly a Secret Daughter to a Mishima Family (If you look at the Post Credits on T8, She just said that Heihachi was her Father)
Wang and Baek's death isn't canon. The Scenario Campaign with Lars and Alisa is the ONLY canon story, any Arcade story within that mode is non-canon. The only ones officially dead is King I, Armor King I, Kuma I (Kuma Jr is the one we know now since Tekken 3), Jinpachi (technically he's dead but somehow he got resurrected by a Devil power unrelated to the Devil Gene) and most recent Heihachi. FYI, Kazumi was never existed in Tekken 7, she was already dead years prior to Tekken 1 in the storyline and was introduced in Tekken 7 to fill in the origins of Devil Gene.
Saying "Kazumi never existed" is just really unnecessary dude, the video says she appeared in Tekken 7 because that's the game she debuted as a character, same as to why the video mentions the characters appearing on the tag games despite these ones being not canon
I feel like a resurrected Kazumi should've been in Akuma's spot in Tekken 7. I mean, why make her the Arcade mode end boss if she's not even treated like a boss in the story?
Apparentlly, Harada stated Wang is dead, so uh... Regardless of whether the fight is canon or not, if this information is at all correct, Wang is gone. Baek probably still alive though
Agree, the fact devil possed jipanchi probably one of reason heihachi goes full force to need deal with those Gene. Look how kazuya and jin become after succumb to devil gene, one become top terrorist, other bring world war, the step children of heihachi probably know the truth. Bet jin learn grandpa intention after heihachi gone and next world war bring by kazuya instead Heck the fast kazuya survive freaking laser beam just show shooting bullet on head just not work.
@@siegfriedc2332 because Heihachi killed her? I do agree that it's weird to use Akuma just randomly. Atleast use Reptile from Mortal Kombat, since he's the first secret character in any fighting game
They killed off some dope legendary characters, I remember using Wang and Baek alot back in the day, I didn't even know those characters were missing, due to the fact that I haven't played Tekken in awhile
She died a long time ago before Tekken 3, look at what her appearance in Tekken 8, she's almost like an angel that redeeming souls, in short term she's a ghost. If she's still alive she would look like Asuka who have no powers like redeeming souls or the power of light, but exactly like her in Tekken 2 were she still alive. But I think you mean her soul isn't dead?
@@Bakino0 missing for a long time? I think Jun is just like Jinpachi who get resurrected and had an immensed power, if Jun was still alive she might look like Asuka or her past self in Tekken 2 who had no powers at all only pure martial art. And I also think that the reason why Jun get resurrected is because of Jin to avoid him to become a pure devil like Kazuya. Welp.... that is just my theory, I mean look at Jun, she looks like an angel who came from heaven and have an angelic power that itself a proof that she's already dead a long time ago.
Everyone's already pointed out the exclusion of Kuma, and that Baek and Wang aren't dead, but you also missed Kunimitsu I. She died sometime between 2 and 7, with the Kunimitsu in 7 being her daughter.
Master Wang Jinrei represented one of the most ancient and profound martial arts ever, Xingyi Quan/Xinyi Liuhe, and in my perspective, his absence has degraded the overall authenticity of the vibe to some extent.
Considering the fact Heihachi got killed by Kazuya seems kinda weird they been throwing each other off cliffs for years and Heihachi somehow dead, that doesn't seem too easy 🤨⛩️.
Call it poetic payback. Father tossed Son off cliff the son tossed dad right back at him. Father comes back beats his son ups the ante by dropping him on an active volcano. Several unsuccessful backstabbings later the prodigal son returns the favor once more.
@@BaconBoyYT Yeah quite like Kazuya did a devasting final attack punch on the Heihachi and threw his body on a volcano to make really sure his father was taken down for good, but who knows his father maybe still alive after that fight🌋🌋?
Crazy seeing all these comments from a few months ago saying Heihachi will come back, then Harada just drops a bomb specifically to JDCR saying Heihachi is completely dead lol. Kinda sad too knowing that his dog (also Heihachi) died very recently.
Harada said Wang may have died. There is a cha ce that he has died due to natural causes but he wasn't killed by Azazel as that was non canon. Beak is also a what if case. Though like Wang he may have died a natural death or just retired
I really don't understand why the community believe this, I really don't, but Baek and Wang never fought against Azazel, and obviously, never died against Azazel. Does endings are *not Canon* Azazel only died against Jin in the campaign mode in Tekken 6. Where this disinformation even coming from?
@@seiryu265 Yeah I know what the word canon means, thanks. I also know it's an almost meaningless concept when it comes to fighting games. Remember when Heihachi had a "canon" death in Tekken 2 when Kazuya dropped him off a cliff? What about his "canon" death in Tekken 5 when a squad of Jack's bombed him into oblivion? Didn't seem to bother him much when he came back swinging for literally every subsequent game. Hell, I can think of three characters off the top of my head across various other games who've all had a "canon" death only for a long lost sibling or some other nonsense to take their place, rendering it pointless. The story for games like Tekken is flimsy garbage. You'd be a fool to listen to anything it tells you.
@@EsteemedReptile are you serious? The whole point of the scenario campaign in t6 was to be the canon story introducing lars/alisa. Wang & baek never encountered azazael in that campaign....at all, so those endings are what ifs. Idk how people just fully ignore tha campaign when that was the actuall storytelling narrative for t6.
What makes me think Hachi is coming back is that Lee and Lars both say he is "missing" in the demo. They watched the fight with the spy satellite they know full well he got thrown into the volcano
Welp guess not lmfao maybe when they elaborate on reinas story we will get a flashback or something and he'll at least be playable I can only wish at this point.
It would be nice if the list was canon. Impossible for Baek and Wang to have been killed by azazel, because it was Jin who fought against it canonically. The other characters are with status "unknown" not "deceased". They'll appear again.
Turns out Heihachi is still alive, and I definitely wanna know what he thinks of Jin pulling off the Angel TF and removing the Devil Gene from himself and Kazuya.
He will come back for sure in Tekken Tag 3. I can see him as DLC in Tekken 8 and he will definitely will come back in Tekken 9. Maybe in 10 at the latest.
King 1, Armor King, Kasumi & Heihachi(old?) Funny thing is with Jun back Ogre only killed 1 character!? He was once thought to have killed a bunch of the og characters, now it turns out his only body was King 1 😒
If Wang and Baek's endings are canon then that means they were the ones who defeated Azazel. We already know that isn't the case though, because Jin was the one who "defeated" Azazel in the end, so as far as the canon story goes Wang and Baek are still alive.
uhh... Kazumi? :V Sure, this list is not chronological from the story perspective, but game release perspective. And even then, Kazuya died in T2, and Kings died before T3 and T4. Sure, it was revealed that Kazuya is resurrected, but from the perspective of T3 he was the first dead character.
He literally is dead bro. Both of his voice actors are dead, and him coming back ruins the whole purpose of Tekken 7 as the end of the Mishima saga. They can only keep recasting him so many times before they do away with his character for good
What if I said Kazuya Mishima Appeared in: Tekken 1, Tekken 2 , Tekken Tag 1, Tekken 4, Tekken 5, Tekken 6, Tekken Tag 2, Tekken 7, Tekken 8 Cause of Death: Killed by Jin
Something tells me Heihachi is fine. They throw each other into a volcano on rotation at least once a week. Should be Jin's turn this Friday, actually.
Edit: There are two types of responses to the reply thread here. Those that understood that I was making a joke, and how no one really stays dead in fighting games. And those who are being smart asses.
Edit 2: Well I guess from the more recent comments, Heihachi really is back. Huh, neat!
Heihachi died from the final punch. His heart stopped. Being thrown into the volcano was just extra, and I guess Kazuya making sure his body couldn't be sampled.
Kazuya died when thrown into the volcano. However due to the Devil Gene, enough of him remained intact for G Corp to use and revive him. Heihachi, unfortunately for his fans, possesses no such gene.
Also keep in mind that Heihachi was severely weakened due to Akuma using the Shun Goku Satsu on him, which was the very reason why Kazuya could kill him in the first place.
Lol
Lmao
Heihachi died definitively because of his VA, who died in real life (same one of old Joseph Joestar from Jojo P3)
IN any media i f there is no dead body and funeral on screen he is not dead. theres a reason they did not have either of those for Heihachi
Marduk: "I killed that guy."
Armor King: "You killed that guy, with your own hands!"
Marduk: "....I just said that bro."
Armor King: "That was my brother, blockhead!"
😄😄😄
Armor King 2 might not have heard him properly with the Jaguar Mask
I miss when the Tekken story modes had deep lore for each character and not just the Mishimas
I miss that too it ended with Tekken 6 even Steve’s Story was forgotten.
let's hope for that on T8
Truth
You're funny
Such a fucking underrated comment. I was never into the Tekken online scene like I was with other fighters but I played the story for Tekken up to T6. I believe story wise the last good Tekken game was Tekken 3. Still never found out why yoshimitsu needed a new body. Or what happened to Gon..... Nor why the doctor no longer fights.....😐🥴
I guess you forgot kuma 1. He passed away from old age.
Also Jack, Jack 2, Gun Jack, P.Jack were destroyed.
And Jack 5, Jack 6, Jack 7 are obsolete models, and they are"victims" of replacing cycle.
Dunno about Ogre/True Ogre, but i suspect he is dead too.
Return of Michelle Chang is hardly doubtful also - they can bring back new young Kunimitsu but bringing back someone like Michelle Chang Jr. when we have Julia will be ridiculous 😂
Yeah, the 1st Kuma had passed away from an old age. His son, the 2nd Kuma, will live on.
Jinpachi...
And jack 1 and jack 6 and gun jack ( my favorite jack of all series) r.i.p
I heard the OG Kuma passed away bc he was hooked on COCAINE.... ☃️🐻☃️
Wang and baek's deaths aren't canon though, they're just what if endings. Like the entire t6 campaign story makes those 2 endings non existent cause they never interact with Azazael in it.
Well, I don't see either of them coming back in a canon game. Especially Wang. I mean the dude's over 100 years, how many human characters or even people do you know that live for so long?
@@durandlewis1382 You talking about age fiction in a game with yoshimitsu who's age is unknwon, talking bears/pandas and devils? Like don't get me wrong I LOVE tekken, but thats a poor excuse.
Harada said they were dead so.....argue with him. See if you win.
@@lucky-13gof47 where did you get that info?
Lars fought Azazel too. It feels like he can resurrect from that orb... What a whelp. Back in t4 days Kaz only needed the devil spirit to come back
Don't forget Bruce. Killed by Harada twice in the same game.
No Bruce lived in Thailand and embrace their culture and did Roids and changed his name.
Dayum son 😂😂😂
And he got replaced 3 times 😕
@@MK-vi2cm It's always siblings that come in triplets and quadruplets that _surprisingly_ get us amongst this type of storyline. How do these writers know to _shock_ us with such a plot twist? The best thing about these plot twists, is that all these doppelgangers have the same name. Like how George Foreman named his kids. #ShouldaKnown
If they don’t want to bring him back just because his martial arts style is Thai, they should just have him be an American military combative fighter.
It was powerful seeing Heihachi shed a tear after killing Kazumi. The moment when he lost his humanity. Sure he’s shown to soft to a very select few. But his ability to truly love died with her
I was actually happy she died idk about u
kazumi was an idiot. youd think she'd kill heihachi in his sleep but she announced her intent while heihachi was most likely just about to start training.
I think that was poorly done. She's supposed to be this threatening super powerful demon final boss yet... she can't get out of his one handed grip? Just from normal goofy looking young heihachi? She sent him flying at the start, I guess the logic is that she got weakened during the fight... still could have been done better though.
@@Vaquix000 and she was fighting Heihachi, of all people, the guy who can throw hands with demons
@@wasabi5338she was planning to kill him in his sleep when they're super old and had great grandchildren already.
Devil Gene madness just ruined that plan
If you think about it, Heihachi was portrayed as an antagonist, seeking to regain control of the Mishima Zaibatsu and eliminate his son Kazuya and his grandson, Jin Kazama. However as the story unfolds, it becomes clear that Heihachi’s actions were driven in part that his grief and guilt over their devil consumed wife and son.
Nah, it’s a ret-con. In Tekken 3, and 4 he wanted the Devil Gene for himself. Kazuya being more evil than Heihachi has been a thing since Tekken 2, but he’s always been evil till all of a sudden he wasn’t in 7.
@@RanOutOfSpac
huh…
Man this story is just a criss-cross of what’s canon and what’s not.
Jinpachi: "wtf did I do?!"
W0LF B3AT5 Heihachi was always a villain, but Harada did retcon the plot in Tekken 7 to make him look like a martyr only because he is his favorite character.
Yeah, but being an ego maniacal a$$hole is also part of who he is 😂
I've lived long enough n witnessed Heihachi survive worse things than that. Pretty sure that lava is like a hot spring for him.
Agreed, he's not dead, and if he somehow is, he'll be back. Give it a game or two and he'll be back good as new just like Kazuya.
Heihachi was in a very weakend state before being thrown in the lava so that lava definitely killed him
The developers say Heihachi's dead
@@CollegeBoiJ Same dead like in Tekken 5 ?
@@cyriszx good point but who knows for sure Heihachi might be chilling on an island somewhere
Wang was in T7 Just non playable. During the Mishima saga mode. The reporter goes to see an "old man" who tells him about the devil. If you listen to the voice carefully and the way he sings the poem you will clock it is Wang Jinrei.
Wrong.
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@@mr.cantillasz1912 Wrong.
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@@TheHeisenBuldgewrong
Actually Baek Doo San and Wang Jinrei never got killed by Azazel It is not canon so they will come back They never encountered Azazel in Scenario Campaign Only Jin Kazama encountered him
Well, hopefully they died at some point during the events of Tekken 7. Two characters we don't need back and wont be missed. They need to get rid of Bob and Miguel too while they're at it.
@@Burning_Typhoon no They did not their endings is not canon only Heihachi Mishima Kazumi Mishima Jinpachi Mishima and Ogre are dead not Baek Doo San and Wang Jinrei
@@Burning_Typhoon Yes, They are missed.
Lars Alexanderson did as well. Though neither he nor Jin died as a result of the fight so you're still in the clear for being correct. (I just like making sure ya boi gets his recognition)
@@Burning_Typhoon LOL those characters were unique and very missed……
Heihachi yesterday: The rumors of my death were greatly exaggerated
But those characters that "died" after battle Azazel are not dead at all. The one who fought against Azazel was Jin/Devil Jin, hence the reason why Zafina absorbed what remained of Azazel's power after she got the orb, as shown in Devil Jin's ending. Her presence in Tekken 7 and her new powers are proof of that.
Finally,some good lore
Prove that they're alive.
Even Tekken 8 further adds to this lore with Zafina
This aged like milk, play the t8 story🤣 rip Zafina and Claudio
@@Filterdeez They did not die bro, look at the credits, Zafina is in there (normal arm) and Claudio's pants and shoe are in the photo
This appeared after Tekken 8's Heihachi Reveal lol
I like how king doesn’t talk, just makes jaguar noises
And other characters understand him :D
Thats tekken logic. Every tekken characters understand each other 😂
Why can't he talk?
@@scottl.1568 he has never used actual words on the game just jaguar noises
whats that Armor King, some kids fell down the old mine shaft?
Perfect timing for this video to get recommended to me
It really pisses me off seeing how people think Wang and Baek are dead. Any T6 Arcade endings with post-defeat of Azazel aren't canon. The only Azazel ending that is canon is Devil Jin's. How do we know this? Well after Devil Jin picked up the orb (Azazel's Heart) it reverted him back to Jin, and who was there after that? Zafina, she was the one who took Azazel's orb. That's why she has it in Tekken 7. That's just one example of an arcade ending being canon. Unless explicitly stated or said otherwise by Harada or Michael Murray...then Baek and Wang aren't dead or alive, but *missing* . Also to the people who said Jun died, she also went missing. It's not a retcon.
But that’s also not canon, because Jin still has devil inside of him
The only canon in Tekken 6 is the campaign
Jun being in Tekken 8 confirms shes not missing. Not anymore
Every ending that have to do with Azazel and the temple are arcade endings which are non canon. Jin never turned devil in the campaign which is canon to Tekken 6. Devil Jin is more of a side character that's connected to Jin.
Jin killed Ogre, and Azazel
Kazuya killed Jinpachi
I take that back Jin killed Jinpachi
Kuma 1 died of old age, jack is an emotion aI but the models are usually destroyed after the new model is successful and Jane put jack 2 into the test model. Jack 2 killed prototype jack, the Tekken force killed gun jack, heihachi killed kazuya even though kazuya was only dead for a few days I still count it, I assume ogre was killed by jin, jinpachi was killed by heihachi, then killed by jin, Eddie wasn't able to raise money for his master's surgery in time and he died from illness, I assume Bryan killed Dr Abel in his Tekken 4 ending because he is never again, and jin killed Azazel.
Jun Kazama. Killed before Tekken 3 by Ogre. Wait, Tekken 8 what?! I guess Ogre was a very poor assassin in the end, just like Nina.
I think she’s still canonically dead, she doesn’t show up in the story mode, and is only alive in the arcade which non of that is canon
@@1shogunate696 Harada officially said she's not dead, and only missing.
Only person ogre canonically killed was King 1. They mentioned kuni, wang, Baek, Bruce, Lee, Jun, etc. It was never confirmed besides King fans are the one who stated ogre killed those name I listed for them to reappear in a later title.
@@1shogunate696Harada said she is alive and she does appear physically before a defeated kazuya in the last scene
@@gabrielemblem605 i thought that was reina or someone else cause I only saw feet lol
I personally think that even though Wang was playable in Tekken 6, he actually died in Tekken 5 because his story mode especially the scenes with Jinpachi made so much sense it almost felt canon.
He never reunited with jinpachi, its stated in his t6 bio.
@@Blackmore2323 That's why they said it almost felt canon.
Let's just hope a new character adapts Wang's moves in T8
@@OchotoTV Leroy?
Tekken 5 Wang story not canon, jipanchi never meet Wang at last moment.
Anyone think it’s amazing how Wang was 100 years old and still maintained his strength to fight? Some people live to 100 but can’t maintain that kind of strength. Old age sucks
Video game plot armor😂
You have the most stupid superhuman things and you get concerned with that
it's just as amazing as high school girls in Tekken able to beat up grown men cuz they're not real 🗿
Some people get 3/4 of the way there and can't manage to complete sentences, but still run for office. Lol
@@Fil-AmFishinglol.
Gonna need an update for this one chief
I think Heihachi took this personally
Heihachi is just highly demanding character in tekken. That is why, he shows up in 2nd DLC of tekken 8.
I thought that Armor King 1 died of a heart condition; it just happened that it got fatally triggered when he fought Marduk in the bar fight before Tekken 4.
That's exactly what happened
Yeah, but Craig thought he killed him and was proud of it, so I can never forgive him and I don't see why King II is friendly with him.
@@Mitsu2040 Wasnt Armor King and King rivals? The second King, setted Marduk up into killing the AK 1, and he is actually a kid from the orphanage the first King took care. If i recall correctly they all get along in the end.
@@JoaoGabriel-vm8my I guess they were rivals, but when King 1 lost his money and became a drunk, it was AK 1 that motivated him to get back into it (T2). Then after Oger killed King 1, AK1 trained the current King (T3). Then Marduk killed AK1 and King 2 wanted revenge but spared him (T4). Then, for reasons I cannot fathom, King2 and Marduk became besties 😶
@@Mitsu2040 yeah, its been a while since i played it, and i dont really remember where they all became friends, but one thing i remember is that AK 1 actually died after the fight with Marduk not during it, thats why he was called out to be inocent
Wang and Baek aren't dead. Their Tekken 6 showcased a what if situation. Both never made it this far. Jin was the one and only to defeat Azazel. Many characters never met.
Also Ganryu never turned into his Devil form.
So Baek and Wang are alive.
If heihachi is truly dead, he's gonna come back as a robot ai.
"AI-Hachi Mishima" 😅
He become the thing that try to kill him in Tekken 5
It makes sense 😂 just because Jack is one of his rivals. It will be a perfect rivalry.
What's scary is this is almost correct with Lee having a robot named Hachi
Heihachi is still alive
If yall pay attention, u can hear Heihachi's heartbeat slowly stop.
Our boy is officially dead 😢..
🫡...
Geohachi prob just stopped his heart so he can play dead
@@unkownboi67is_unavailable62 he WOULD pull some sh*t like that 🤣🤣🤣
Or he is, unbeknownst to himself, a holder of the devil gene as well. Perhaps Kazuyas last strike awakened it. Just imagine: Tekken 8 final boss: Devil Heihachi.
@Fistus oh sh*t, oh f*ck!!!!!
Can u imagine bro?!?!?!?!?
@@fistus1976 I imagine the only thing the Devil Gene will give Heihachi is a full head of hair. Otherwise Heihachi Mishima is a perfect being
Of all the characters in Tekken King I, he was the one who least deserved to die 😢
Heihachi died cause his voice actor did,yes they replaced him but that was to be able finish his story.
It probably would have been the same result anyway.
And then shortly after his new actor died.
@@Jeezes718 SMH wow
I swear whoever plays heihachi is cursed to die, sad because both VAs are very well known
@@adomomcjinkies4787 we are all cursed to die mate
The badassery of Baek kicking through Azazel's core will always be one of my favorite moments in Tekken
People on this comment section literally predicted the tekken 8 heihachi DLC
Ibr they only brought back this character for marketing they did say they want to sell alot more copies for this game and bringing back an iconic character to life as a dlc means more money for them😅
Baek and Wang are not dead. Kuma is at least the second Kuma, as the first one died. Yoshimitsu is at least the second but probably more like 4th or 5th, as that is a title of someone in their clan, and they kill them when they get too old to fight. It's part of the reason he looks so different in every game.
"when they get too old to fight." So how does that work considering each game takes place between a few years. For there to be a different yoshimitsu each game, they would have to take the title when they are already old. Its clear that 2-5 are the same yoshi considering their relationship with the doctor so its safe to assume its the same yoshi in every game.
"They get too old to fight, and they kill them" Bro...🤦🏻 Stop making things up. No where in the official Tekken storyline does it say this. Not even Harada himself has said this.
@@OGUA-camr05 it's well known....it's on the wiki
@@Mang00wt the in-game information tells you you're wrong boss.
@@Mang00wt why are you trying so hard to argue this? You're wrong. Read the character bio in Tekken 7 or Tekken Tag 2. Heck, just Google it right now.
If your name is mishima you're probably fine.
Except if you're jinpachi.
Update: Heihachi is alive. Save by the monks. It's from the Tekken 8 DLC story
(Maybe Kazuya didn't saw it because probably his eyes went blurry after Heihachi gave his final headbutt to him, which affects his combat. Maybe he regains his vision after Akuma showed up)
There is just something that's so pure and innocent seeing king on tekken 1 with pixel graphics walking off to the snow .... I can't explain how inner peace it gives
Azazel AKA the Character removal utility
Looking at T7 makes you think, “If Kazumi never attacked Heihachi, would her vision still be true?” Only time Heihachi went down the path of world domination was when his own family, Kazumi, went crazy and tried to kill him, making Heihachi question his own son in the process. Idk what happened to the relationship of Heihachi and Jinpachi tho. I like to think Heihachi instantly had the same suspicions when Jinpachi was acting funny too but that was because Jinpachi was turning to an old fart. He started having amnesia or lost of memory due to old age or something like that, and Jinpachi attacks Heihachi, thinking he’s an intruder in his home. It’s far fetched, yeah, but it would be a funny reason why Jinpachi suffered his fate at the hands of his son, being an old guy who forgets sometimes lol
i have a question, if kazumi wask killed by heihachi then how did she appear after so many years in tekken 7 ?
@@moizali4698 she didn't afaik. You were just fighting a past version of her. Basically a "she was in the story be kinda lame if we don't let you play as her" type of deal.
@@moizali4698 demonically spiritual reemergence
you guys just got pranked, heihachi tekken 8 trailer is just released
Wang and beak aren’t dead… doesn’t matter how old they are, the tekken lore it’s self is ridiculous and unrealistic so Logic doesn’t even matter at this point
In game lore, it's like a few years after T5 still
"doesn't matter how old they are"
Smh, Baek is barely 50 which isn't even that old. Tekken fans really like to paint Baek as an old fart, my guy is pretty young. Although, I always imagined that Jinrei and Baek both retired. Jinrei is probably just babysitting his grandkids and teaching them his style, while Baek is just starting a happy family
@@NiCoNiCoNiCola Baek and Chaolan are basically at the same age
I wouldn't be surprised that they comeback ( SOMEHOW ) even though we witnessed each of them die in the story.
Wang and baek aint dead dude. The t6 campaign is the definitive story, any endings having characters fighting azazael never fought him.
@Blackmore2323 HEY! talk to the content creator who spoke about this OK? I want those characters 😭 to comeback!
I would like Heihachi being avaiable in Tekken 8. I don't mind if is dead. An strange revival or a memory of Kazuya. Being in every game, It Will be too sad not being in T8
Maybe they'll be another Mishima with his name in the next game. A sort of Heihachi Jr. maybe. It doesn't had to be the original Heihachi but it could be a younger nephew or a relative carrying his name in honor of him. Hey if there could be a lot of Kuma, King, Armor King, and Yoshimitsu then there should be another Heihachi as well.
@@VOANThough we got Reina as a Heihachi's Next Gen-Person. Since she's exactly a Secret Daughter to a Mishima Family (If you look at the Post Credits on T8, She just said that Heihachi was her Father)
Wang and Baek's death isn't canon. The Scenario Campaign with Lars and Alisa is the ONLY canon story, any Arcade story within that mode is non-canon. The only ones officially dead is King I, Armor King I, Kuma I (Kuma Jr is the one we know now since Tekken 3), Jinpachi (technically he's dead but somehow he got resurrected by a Devil power unrelated to the Devil Gene) and most recent Heihachi. FYI, Kazumi was never existed in Tekken 7, she was already dead years prior to Tekken 1 in the storyline and was introduced in Tekken 7 to fill in the origins of Devil Gene.
Saying "Kazumi never existed" is just really unnecessary dude, the video says she appeared in Tekken 7 because that's the game she debuted as a character, same as to why the video mentions the characters appearing on the tag games despite these ones being not canon
I feel like a resurrected Kazumi should've been in Akuma's spot in Tekken 7. I mean, why make her the Arcade mode end boss if she's not even treated like a boss in the story?
Apparentlly, Harada stated Wang is dead, so uh... Regardless of whether the fight is canon or not, if this information is at all correct, Wang is gone.
Baek probably still alive though
Agree, the fact devil possed jipanchi probably one of reason heihachi goes full force to need deal with those Gene. Look how kazuya and jin become after succumb to devil gene, one become top terrorist, other bring world war, the step children of heihachi probably know the truth. Bet jin learn grandpa intention after heihachi gone and next world war bring by kazuya instead Heck the fast kazuya survive freaking laser beam just show shooting bullet on head just not work.
@@siegfriedc2332 because Heihachi killed her? I do agree that it's weird to use Akuma just randomly. Atleast use Reptile from Mortal Kombat, since he's the first secret character in any fighting game
They killed off some dope legendary characters, I remember using Wang and Baek alot back in the day, I didn't even know those characters were missing, due to the fact that I haven't played Tekken in awhile
Harada: Heihachi Mishima is completely dead.
6 months later. He was survived. Harada has lied us about the Heihachi's death
Small Update : TEKKEN 8 HEIHACHI IS BACK SOMEHOW ...
This didn't age well
I'm surprised Jun wasn't in here but I figured she was never dead
She died a long time ago before Tekken 3, look at what her appearance in Tekken 8, she's almost like an angel that redeeming souls, in short term she's a ghost. If she's still alive she would look like Asuka who have no powers like redeeming souls or the power of light, but exactly like her in Tekken 2 were she still alive. But I think you mean her soul isn't dead?
@@gaz3606 Harada said in interviews that she isn't dead but Lost or Missing
@@Bakino0 missing for a long time? I think Jun is just like Jinpachi who get resurrected and had an immensed power, if Jun was still alive she might look like Asuka or her past self in Tekken 2 who had no powers at all only pure martial art. And I also think that the reason why Jun get resurrected is because of Jin to avoid him to become a pure devil like Kazuya. Welp.... that is just my theory, I mean look at Jun, she looks like an angel who came from heaven and have an angelic power that itself a proof that she's already dead a long time ago.
@@gaz3606 She was N E V E R confirmed to be dead.
@Gaz 3:60 just going by what thr creator of the game said, also Nina is slightly older than Jun and she still looks young like Anna
Wang didn't get killed. But I do wonder if he died from old age already because we haven't seen him appear in anything after TTT2.
Hiehachi is such a legend, 76 years old and a billionaire but he prefers to fight superhuman enemies with his own bare hands.
Baek isn’t dead, he’s just missing. And we never seen Wang die either
Have you even watched the endings in this video??
@@ThePoisonJelly The endings are just a What If endings from Tekken 6. Baek and Wang never encountered Azazel in the canon ending. Jin did.
Prove it.
@@ThePoisonJelly If we're going by arcade endings then Yoshimitsu and Bryan both killed each other, twice, right? This shits never canon
Did I miss someone?
Btw, I didn't include Jinpachi since he was long dead and was just resurrected in Tekken 5 by an evil spirit.
Does ogre count?
There is also kuma 1
I think you missed some like Kuma 1
Dr. B, Jack 2 , and Gon 😂
he was reanimated and died again. he shouldve been in the list.
big fat L.
Everyone's already pointed out the exclusion of Kuma, and that Baek and Wang aren't dead, but you also missed Kunimitsu I. She died sometime between 2 and 7, with the Kunimitsu in 7 being her daughter.
Yoshimitsu killed her as execution
@@DBZAOTA482 No, it was confirmed that Kuni I died from an illness.
@@cassiebrenneman9673 The original Kunimitsu isn't dead, just ill.
Moonlight theme sounds awesome at that speed.
the fact that heihachi isn’t dead yet again. Is so funny to me.
When you realize that old Joseph Joestar is Heihachi’s voice…
Heihachi: HORY SHIEETT!!!
i dont think baek or wangs death are cannon
We gotta update this, Heihachi is back again in tekken 8, somehow per usual.
Master Wang Jinrei represented one of the most ancient and profound martial arts ever, Xingyi Quan/Xinyi Liuhe, and in my perspective, his absence has degraded the overall authenticity of the vibe to some extent.
It would be cool if he had a successor.
vibes are off
@@Kiddo_XWe got his granddaughter and Leroy for that
Oh, the look on Kazuya's face when he sees Heihachi in Tekken 8 lmao.
Raven says: Hold Up wait a minute🤚, Heihachi Mishima is not Dead?
You forgot Jinpachi, where he was killed by Jin, canonically.
I was scrolling down to see if anyone had said this. Jinpachi and Ogre were both killed by Jin canonically.
Technically Jinpacho was already dead. The Jinpachi encountered in 5 was technically his evil spirit-possesed corpse.
Considering the fact Heihachi got killed by Kazuya seems kinda weird they been throwing each other off cliffs for years and Heihachi somehow dead, that doesn't seem too easy 🤨⛩️.
Lmao that's weird but true
lmaooooo throwing each other
Call it poetic payback. Father tossed Son off cliff the son tossed dad right back at him. Father comes back beats his son ups the ante by dropping him on an active volcano. Several unsuccessful backstabbings later the prodigal son returns the favor once more.
If he comes back at tekken 8, then the epic battle at the end of tekken 7 was pointless
@@BaconBoyYT Yeah quite like Kazuya did a devasting final attack punch on the Heihachi and threw his body on a volcano to make really sure his father was taken down for good, but who knows his father maybe still alive after that fight🌋🌋?
Jinpachi was killed by heihachi then got resurrected and later got killed by jin kazama
Not jin its kazuya
Crazy seeing all these comments from a few months ago saying Heihachi will come back, then Harada just drops a bomb specifically to JDCR saying Heihachi is completely dead lol. Kinda sad too knowing that his dog (also Heihachi) died very recently.
Don't forget Eddy Gordo, the poor guy was killed in Tekken 7, there's nothing left
HARADA LIED, Heihachi didn't die🤣🤣
Harada said Wang may have died. There is a cha ce that he has died due to natural causes but he wasn't killed by Azazel as that was non canon. Beak is also a what if case. Though like Wang he may have died a natural death or just retired
I really don't understand why the community believe this, I really don't, but Baek and Wang never fought against Azazel, and obviously, never died against Azazel.
Does endings are *not Canon*
Azazel only died against Jin in the campaign mode in Tekken 6.
Where this disinformation even coming from?
Since when do canon endings mean anything either?
@@EsteemedReptile .....
If something is canon it means the story is moving forward.
It's not that hard to understand.
@@seiryu265 Yeah I know what the word canon means, thanks. I also know it's an almost meaningless concept when it comes to fighting games.
Remember when Heihachi had a "canon" death in Tekken 2 when Kazuya dropped him off a cliff? What about his "canon" death in Tekken 5 when a squad of Jack's bombed him into oblivion? Didn't seem to bother him much when he came back swinging for literally every subsequent game. Hell, I can think of three characters off the top of my head across various other games who've all had a "canon" death only for a long lost sibling or some other nonsense to take their place, rendering it pointless.
The story for games like Tekken is flimsy garbage. You'd be a fool to listen to anything it tells you.
@@EsteemedReptile are you serious? The whole point of the scenario campaign in t6 was to be the canon story introducing lars/alisa. Wang & baek never encountered azazael in that campaign....at all, so those endings are what ifs. Idk how people just fully ignore tha campaign when that was the actuall storytelling narrative for t6.
@@Blackmore2323 The storytelling narrative. Is. Complete. Garbage.
Imagine catching an elbow to the glutes so hard you turn into scarabs.
After tekken 7: harada:"Heihatchi Mishima is COMPLETELY Dead".
Later in tekken 8: Heihatchi Mishima, is ALIVE.
What makes me think Hachi is coming back is that Lee and Lars both say he is "missing" in the demo. They watched the fight with the spy satellite they know full well he got thrown into the volcano
Welp guess not lmfao maybe when they elaborate on reinas story we will get a flashback or something and he'll at least be playable I can only wish at this point.
You are gonna have to remove Heihachi from this list........He is alive again.
I thought Wang had died of old age (he's 104 in Tekken 5)
*casually omitting Heihachi was not on my 2024 bingo card*
Baek was originally killed by Ogre before T3 like King, but they just ignored that later.
here after the Tekken 8 Heihachi reveal yesterday lol he’s alive
It would be nice if the list was canon. Impossible for Baek and Wang to have been killed by azazel, because it was Jin who fought against it canonically.
The other characters are with status "unknown" not "deceased". They'll appear again.
1:30 I don't understand, Jinn killed Azazel in Tekken 6...
They killed King, almost the most famous character, that alone shows how gigachad this game is. Imagine Street Fighter kills Chun-Li or Ken lol.
Turns out Heihachi is still alive, and I definitely wanna know what he thinks of Jin pulling off the Angel TF and removing the Devil Gene from himself and Kazuya.
I still believe that Heihachi will come back “again” like he always been.
He will come back for sure in Tekken Tag 3. I can see him as DLC in Tekken 8 and he will definitely will come back in Tekken 9. Maybe in 10 at the latest.
Copium
He will come back in T8..
Kazumi in T7 is not alive but she's playable..
However lore wise heihachi is deceased
No, he won’t.
Both of his voice actors are dead. He's not returning
King 1, Armor King, Kasumi & Heihachi(old?)
Funny thing is with Jun back Ogre only killed 1 character!? He was once thought to have killed a bunch of the og characters, now it turns out his only body was King 1 😒
" I'M MISHIMA HEIHACHI!
AAAAHHHHHHAHHA "
Still can’t believe the main bad guy in Tekken is an overgrown chicken that is possessed
I FORGOT KING is "dead"
If Wang and Baek's endings are canon then that means they were the ones who defeated Azazel. We already know that isn't the case though, because Jin was the one who "defeated" Azazel in the end, so as far as the canon story goes Wang and Baek are still alive.
Exactly. It's common sense and I don't understand why so many people have been feeding the idea that those endings were canon.
This video didn’t age well
For a game mainly about the Mishima bloodline, I find it interesting that 2 kings died before a single Mishima bit the dust
uhh... Kazumi? :V Sure, this list is not chronological from the story perspective, but game release perspective.
And even then, Kazuya died in T2, and Kings died before T3 and T4. Sure, it was revealed that Kazuya is resurrected, but from the perspective of T3 he was the first dead character.
@@kindlesstraitor5587 Technically, Kazumi wasn't a Mishima.
Tekken 3 with Gon and volleyball minigames is 🌟
This was well done 👍
What about Kuma and Ganryu?
Namco killed their game.
Heyhashi NEVER DIES, don´t matter what he will come back always.
Devil heihachi
If Wang and Baek is dead cause of the T6 arcade ending. Then Ganryu got Devil powers :V
I refuse to believe that Heihachi is dead until we make it through a whole game lifespan without him showing up.
But Kazumi is dead in T7 but playable
He literally is dead bro. Both of his voice actors are dead, and him coming back ruins the whole purpose of Tekken 7 as the end of the Mishima saga. They can only keep recasting him so many times before they do away with his character for good
Same bro HEIHACHI LIVES!!!!!
@@mauricereticau6292 Tekken is not above recasting a character and "ruining" a story for shits and giggles.
Heihachi dying almost at every Tekken game, and then he's like "ayo wassup, im here again, and want to open the iron fist tournament".
This aged well 😂
Cobra Kai never...I mean Heihachi never dies!
I believe armor King 1 was also in Tekken tag 1
Yes he was.
Heihachi : Are you serious? I am Immortal being!
What if I said
Kazuya Mishima
Appeared in: Tekken 1, Tekken 2 , Tekken Tag 1, Tekken 4, Tekken 5, Tekken 6, Tekken Tag 2, Tekken 7, Tekken 8
Cause of Death: Killed by Jin