@@yoboibeerus1387 my opinion is that it's just a poorly-controlled scream, more like that of a person in rage (it wasn't a word but instead it was just a scream for dominance I THINK)
@@yoboibeerus1387 same, but then i realized that the director's intent was probably to make a chimpanzee speak realistic so in rage and fighting moments AT LEAST it would just scream without communicating complex speech like it would usually do, when i'm angry i scream without saying a word...
For what? For putting the jackass in his place you don’t go from yelling at your friend to insulting his love for his family that’s just starting a war with the hulk on steroids so Koba got what he deserved not to mention when Koba thought that Caesar was dead some of other other apes were still loyal to him, and he ended up, locking some of them prison and ended killing one of them
Koba: "Caesar love humans more than apes." This scene is gold because Koba begins to doubt the true allegiance of Caesar.but people misunderstood that koba fears Caesar's friendship with Malcolm has turned him against the apes.
@stupidfuck117 THEY. ARE. APES! Dafuq you mean caesar should have to apologize? Koba challenged the alpha and the alpha won plain and simple intelligent or not they are still animals and follow a animal hierarchy.
@@GIZMOTHEFATWOLFVT Yes they’re biologically apes but they should still be treated like human beings because they have the minds of them, which is the opposite of what you’re doing. You’re treating them like stupid animals. It doesn’t matter if Caesars the alpha, he nearly beat Koba to death for a really unjust reason. He should have apologized to Koba, and yes Koba was wrong to insult him like that, but Caesar was even more wrong.
I think Koba would've been loyal to Caesar as long as he kept his word and didn't change his mind. Koba was fine with scaring the humans so they would never come back, and if they came back, that's a declaration of war. As long as Caesar kept to his word about that, Koba would've remained loyal. It was Caesar inviting the humans back into ape territory that Koba was completely against because Caesar went against his own words and to add on to all of it a human could be caught with a gun and Caesar doesn't even punish them. No wonder Koba was pissed off. Caesar, at this point, has shown himself to be a liar and has shown himself to be weak. I don't think Koba's hatred for humans was the problem of this movie. Caesars leadership was the problem. Koba could keep his hatred under wraps as long as Caesar proves himself to be a strong leader that remains true to his word. But since Caesar did the exact opposite, it gave Koba the opportunity to unleash his hatred on the humans. Caesar literally started all of his own problems with the choices he made. All of what i just told you, plus him publicly embarrassing Koba twice. Once in this fight and the other when Koba was telling Caesar what the humans did to him. Caesar chose to stand up in a dominant fashion and force Koba to apologize for literally nothing. Caesar should've been more empathetic in that scene instead of dominant. If I were an ape in this scenario, I would back Koba 100%.
Koba was a lost cause and insulted Caesars love for his family, so Cesar had every right to beat the crap out of him. The only downside is him trying to kill Koba the way.
Are we seriously supposed to side with Caesar? Caesar beats up Koba and almost killed Koba just because Kobe made a valid point! Also when Koba said “Caesar love humans more than apes” Caesar wasn’t even denying it! If anything Cesar was the villain but gets a redemption arc in war for the planet of the apes
You make a valid point, but did you also not see what else Koba does this movie, he doesn’t even care about the apes, he just wanted to get revenge on Caesar and the humans
@@GodzillaWick456 tbf, that's an awful reason to endanger your entire clan. Koba hated the entire species of humanity and wanted to wipe them out purely for revenge, even when these guys never actually did anything to him. Ceasar tried to talk him out of it because he felt that peace could be made between the two species, and wanted to avoid war unless absolutely necessary, which is what a good leader should do. There's no such thing as a good war, but Kobas entire reasoning was founded on illogical revenge and hatred, to the point where being logical and wanting to avoid dying in war was "soft" to him.
@@nicknamed1267 Didn’t Caesar become just like Koba in war for the planet of the apes? Even Caesar himself admitted it Oh yeah but somehow that’s OK cause he’s a protagonist
When koba shouted CAAEESSAARRR!!!, I can tell Caesar was angry in his mind you could tell he’s saying: “did you just shout at the leader?”
1:26 what is he saying here?
@@yoboibeerus1387 my opinion is that it's just a poorly-controlled scream, more like that of a person in rage (it wasn't a word but instead it was just a scream for dominance I THINK)
@@wisekong6371 I heard something like VICTOR.
@@yoboibeerus1387 same, but then i realized that the director's intent was probably to make a chimpanzee speak realistic so in rage and fighting moments AT LEAST it would just scream without communicating complex speech like it would usually do, when i'm angry i scream without saying a word...
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man I wish that Caesar and Red Donkey had a fight like this
No red donkey vs Luca
Red donkey vs Buck
apes mega zord power rangers
"Ape not kill ape."
Koba is NOT ape...
On 2:00, Koba learns that Caesar trust the humans more than him. This made Koba turned into the dark side😈.
Well think before he had a human that was his owner
And father..... But I think it's clear that Caesar loved his own sons more than any man
2:17 At that moment Koba became corrupted and became evil to want to kill Caesar for being his former friend
For what? For putting the jackass in his place you don’t go from yelling at your friend to insulting his love for his family that’s just starting a war with the hulk on steroids so Koba got what he deserved not to mention when Koba thought that Caesar was dead some of other other apes were still loyal to him, and he ended up, locking some of them prison and ended killing one of them
Even if Cesar would've talked to Koba, Koba wouldn't have listened either way it went💯 Koba still would've became corrupted and become a villain
Even so, Caesar was not going to convince him at all
Caesar is amazing and he make sure all the apes are strong!
Koba: "Caesar love humans more than apes."
This scene is gold because Koba begins to doubt the true allegiance of Caesar.but people misunderstood that koba fears Caesar's friendship with Malcolm has turned him against the apes.
1:04 this should have been in the whiplash just sat
see just no!
I don’t really blame him for wanting to kill Caesar. What he said was shitty sure, but Caesar nearly beat him to death and never apologized for it.
Speaking like a human huh?
@@GIZMOTHEFATWOLFVT Wdym? If you mean I’m wrong to say that then why.
@stupidfuck117 THEY. ARE. APES! Dafuq you mean caesar should have to apologize? Koba challenged the alpha and the alpha won plain and simple intelligent or not they are still animals and follow a animal hierarchy.
@@GIZMOTHEFATWOLFVT Yes they’re biologically apes but they should still be treated like human beings because they have the minds of them, which is the opposite of what you’re doing. You’re treating them like stupid animals. It doesn’t matter if Caesars the alpha, he nearly beat Koba to death for a really unjust reason. He should have apologized to Koba, and yes Koba was wrong to insult him like that, but Caesar was even more wrong.
Dude, Caesar’s his brother and he made vocal that he’s actively betraying his mind which is an accusation
At this moment, koba realized if his Leader won’t take care of the scum that abused Koba, then he must do what he thinks is a must…
I think Koba would've been loyal to Caesar as long as he kept his word and didn't change his mind. Koba was fine with scaring the humans so they would never come back, and if they came back, that's a declaration of war. As long as Caesar kept to his word about that, Koba would've remained loyal. It was Caesar inviting the humans back into ape territory that Koba was completely against because Caesar went against his own words and to add on to all of it a human could be caught with a gun and Caesar doesn't even punish them. No wonder Koba was pissed off. Caesar, at this point, has shown himself to be a liar and has shown himself to be weak.
I don't think Koba's hatred for humans was the problem of this movie. Caesars leadership was the problem. Koba could keep his hatred under wraps as long as Caesar proves himself to be a strong leader that remains true to his word. But since Caesar did the exact opposite, it gave Koba the opportunity to unleash his hatred on the humans. Caesar literally started all of his own problems with the choices he made. All of what i just told you, plus him publicly embarrassing Koba twice. Once in this fight and the other when Koba was telling Caesar what the humans did to him. Caesar chose to stand up in a dominant fashion and force Koba to apologize for literally nothing. Caesar should've been more empathetic in that scene instead of dominant. If I were an ape in this scenario, I would back Koba 100%.
Caesar almost killed Koba
Instead of hitting him, he should have told him: Calm down Koba, that's not true, you are my family, stop living in the past.
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Koba was a lost cause and insulted Caesars love for his family, so Cesar had every right to beat the crap out of him. The only downside is him trying to kill Koba the way.
Caesar!
Good
1:06 - 1:27 me when my friend gives me abuse
You good bro?
Caeser is the me and koba is the friend
@@g-fanmax1838I don't think he's feeling good bro ?
caeser is a real great ape❤😊
Koba was just jealous Caesar had seen the good of the human race where as Koba experienced the opposite
Koba should let it go
@@ronaldpagar6513tf are you talking about are you actually that thick in the head ?
Maurice at 1:10
Yeah I think he's having fun
@@JosephtheOG5no he was scared
1:26 stay Down
Caesar is good against his brother koba
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Me and my Brother when he has already eaten the last bag of chips
Dems fighting words , koba
Lol!
What does "Dems" mean in english?
@@wisekong6371 “those”
@@gloriacollins6608 thnx
Them
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Monkey rage 🦍😡
the blaze and Roxy the king and the Quinn
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morphin master is your buniness
caesar love power rangers and his love the red morphin master
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Thats very creepy
koby is no match for maurice, that's why he won't hurt maurice's friends 🤣
I need power of the apes zord from the mighty morphin power ranger
Are we seriously supposed to side with Caesar? Caesar beats up Koba and almost killed Koba just because Kobe made a valid point! Also when Koba said “Caesar love humans more than apes” Caesar wasn’t even denying it! If anything Cesar was the villain but gets a redemption arc in war for the planet of the apes
You make a valid point, but did you also not see what else Koba does this movie, he doesn’t even care about the apes, he just wanted to get revenge on Caesar and the humans
@@multiverse6998 Well to be honest he didn’t care about the apes because they were too soft to get revenge on the humans
@@GodzillaWick456 True
@@GodzillaWick456 tbf, that's an awful reason to endanger your entire clan. Koba hated the entire species of humanity and wanted to wipe them out purely for revenge, even when these guys never actually did anything to him. Ceasar tried to talk him out of it because he felt that peace could be made between the two species, and wanted to avoid war unless absolutely necessary, which is what a good leader should do. There's no such thing as a good war, but Kobas entire reasoning was founded on illogical revenge and hatred, to the point where being logical and wanting to avoid dying in war was "soft" to him.
@@nicknamed1267 Didn’t Caesar become just like Koba in war for the planet of the apes? Even Caesar himself admitted it Oh yeah but somehow that’s OK cause he’s a protagonist
Ce2
You don’t talk about someone’s family.
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