Hello everyone, This is a really late comment on this topic but I'm going to go over it anyway. I've been getting some comments retaining to a certain individual I referenced at 7:18 That person is actually NOT a furry, and from what I've learned from people is a CSA victim, not a predator. I'm really sorry to the individual that I pretty much slapped the label of 'predator' on this person in this video. I was really lazy and reckless with my research and references. This was a terrible fuck up I've caused for this person and myself. It was a big mistake that I will NEVER do again. I will be a lot more careful when making these types of videos next time. Again, major apology to this individual for doing that to you along with you getting doxxed several days before this video released. Nobody deserves getting doxxed and I hope this person is doing better now. Though my opinions of this person are soured like milk in the hot sun due to the fact they are a Lolicon defender/enjoyer. I don't like anybody who consumes this type of content and I NEVER will and NOBODY will ever change my opinions on why Lolicon and Shotacon are inherently bad. You can call me a bad person who just falsely gave someone the title of predator on a video that was kinda rushed af, but don't call my actions worse than the person who legit posts suggestive art of anime girls that haven't looked like they reached puberty yet with their bare ass cheeks out, and saying "Lolicon and Pedophilia aren't the same.", which gives off the same energy as "Zoosadism and Zoophilia aren't the same.". Also, I DONT CARE IF IT'S FICTIONALIZED AND THEY'RE 3000 YEARS OLD!!!! IF THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE ADULTS, THEN IT'S STILL ART PROMOTING THE SEXUALIZATION OF MINORS. STOP USING THAT DEFENSIVE ARGUMENT. Also also, while I agree it's not as egregious as real CP, it still contributes to the problem that I just talked about now. All I can say at this point is that I hope this person receives help, or gets better help if their lackluster therapist agrees with this deviant behavior. I wish no ill will against this person and I hope they get professional help.
See, your whole argument relies on "they look like children" when they clearly fucking aren't. When people talk about lolis, they're talking about petite anime girls. Sure there's kanna or others like that, and then there's Frieren, Rebecca, Tatsumaki, Lamù, Megumin and so on. They are lolis because they have a more "moe" focused design. The trope covers anime girls that have petite features. Think of something gothic lolita. Pedophilia Meanwhile furry is mostly about sexualizing fictional (although a lot of them have been caught doing stuff with the real deal or worse) animals. And that's it, sure there's the sfw corner, but it's nothing compared to the rest, the most popular furry image boards focusing mostly on nsfw is a good example of it. Humanoid or not, the whole point is the animal features. And yes this counts fucking Pokémons, monsters from MH, or any creature like that. By the same logic you're using for lolis (which again, is a trope about character design, NOT age or "looking like a child/sexualizing them", of course there's nsfw, if you go to r-18 sections you're gonna find Tatsumaki porn), being a furry is being a zoophile. Also, Bandy IS a furry. Dunno where you got that lol
Im not too fond of the nsfw in the furry fandom but that is sadly due to many older furries trying to groom a young teenage me into it. It is so disappointing that everytime I’ve tried to be friends with other furrys it always ended up that way. Like you can enjoy the nsfw in the fandom im fine with that, but PLEASE keep it away from minors. I legit thought that was common sense but at this point im doubtful of that fact ;-;
I’ve seen a lot of underaged furries getting harassed by GROWN ADULT furries for not liking nsfw. It’s normal for a child to be disgusted by those things. Ur a grown adult and u shouldn’t be harassing children finding ur s3x suit/or art gross. I’ve also seen grown furries trying to force children who are disgusted with nsfw to LIKE it.😧And for those who are wondering: i see ts all the time on furry TikTok. So glad this video exists because I’ve been saying this a lot and also been getting attacked by other furries for it.
THIS !! I had to deal with this when I was at my early stages of the fandom, many furry adults I've encountered have gotten mad about others and sometimes me for not liking nsfw or just community, you are a grown adult with a fully developed brain and the ability to decide what is right or wrong, some even have the audacity to use their mental disorders when they're confronted for this kind of thing, it's horrible really. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who noticed this and just disturbed by it to be honest.
@@BLAKESCRIBBLES right like when I was 13, I was in a group of furries online, and I told them I told them I didn’t like furry 🌽 and they got mad at me and then told me “how can u not like it, it’s the best thing ever” like ew..
Finally someone said it! I feel like every time this criticism is brougt up in the fandom it’s shot down with “well that’s what being a furry is all about”, which most of the time just cope for personal porn addiction. As much as porn is a part of it, I always thought it was more about community then straight up 24/7 porn, looking for any community is near impossible because every conversation ultimately circles around to porn. It gets worse when you join a server that has minors and it’s the same there too.
Ive not heard a single person who isn't a sex creep in some way say "well that's what being a furry is all about" I agree it's an issue but posing strawmen to get angry about poses more harm then good especially in a discussion like this
As someone that orbits around Changed, I want to share my view point. The Colin being minor debate was made as a drama from someone that probably hated the guy and wanted to cancel him and made up lies about Colin being minor. Originally the character had no canon age and was "blend" because it was meant to be a self-insert character for the player. (Also OG changed was way tamer than the things we get now.) And no, the game is not meant to be for kids, but youtube happened and it got picked up by a child (cult) channel, and boom. Now kids are being showned this. And on the same note, DragonSnow publicly stated his disgust for people trying to add his fetish ideas on roblox and beefed with some the biggest games with this concept (that also are for most of them a safe haven for predators(how surprising))
The furry fandom since it's founding has always had a sexual side to it and I don't think it's inherently a bad thing just because you don't like it. When it comes to minors I admit corn shouldn't be as easily accessible but that's a problem with the internet at large not just furries.
Asexuality is objectively weirder than hypersexuality. Sorry, it just is. You're unable to feel a core emotion vital to human survival. Lucky for you, we aren't the ones supporting calls to take away your rights. That's your side doing that.
The thing that bugs me the most is that so many people posting the content can't even be bothered to MARK their posts as nsfw. It takes literally 2 seconds. At best it's just laziness, but sometimes it seems outright malicious. So yeah, even if you having the stuff set to be hidden in your settings you'll still see it anyway. It's unavoidable if you go anywhere online. If you're a minor stay far away, it sucks but it's for your own good.
I wouldn’t say it’s just an issue in specifically the furry fandom either, it seems like the world is slows turning into an over-sexualized place and everyone excuses it as a “joke”
Really though, some people make the furry fandom and furries in general, 'bad'. Some furries that I have met are pretty cool/nice, but that doesn't mean that it's not still a problem in the community. They really need to 'improve', but I'd doubt that'd happen. Many are slandered, and that's how it'll all be. (I'm not a furry myself, but if you are a furry, and you respect me, and I respect you, fair. Like that Eminem quote, “I don't care if you're black, white, straight, bisexual, gay, lesbian, short, tall, fat, skinny, rich or poor. If you're nice to me, I'll be nice to you. Simple as that!” ― Eminem)
Just as a bit of a correction that I had to give some twitter grifter months back: Changed itself was never marketed towards kids and the developer has voiced concerns/frustration with the "Transfur" community in underaged spaces like Roblox. He doesn't associate or give them permission to use his game as a gateway for grooming kids. Just wanted to clarify.
I think the worst part about it is that the fandom originally did form from the sexual aspect of the furry community, not to say its inherently a sexual hobby but just from that factor theres gonna be alot of that kind of stuff and it rlly sucks
Hey man, thanks for making this video. I've been in this fandom for a while now, and was unfortunately exposed to the darker sides of this fandom when I was very young. Like the "transfur" community, and even worse, the gross degenerate zoos/p3dos who attempted to groom me and made me think that stuff was okay. Even hypnotist sappho followed my tiktok page at one point when i was like 14 which honestly makes me sick to think about nowadays. I'm okay now, luckily nothing extreme happened or anything but I'm still recovering from all this. I just wish this fandom wasn't so full of awful people. I hope that younger furs in this generation won't have to experience the same stuff as I did, but unfortunately the futures looking pretty bleak with all these content farms and ""kids"" channels that just post borderline nsfw and ai slop.
Hey.. i can somewhat relate to you since i was also exposed to the gross side of the fandoms at a young age thanks to my "friend", i just want to tell you that you are never alone even in these specific situations, hope you can recover one day ❤️🩹
@@leafface5890 because there's a MAJOR difference? Its legit common knowledge to know what the difference is between the two unless you've never seen an animal in your life. Which is very... highly unlikely.
Oh boy interesting thing about Changed is don't think Colin even was meant to have a age at all considering Changed is more of an insert character that is meant to be a stand in for a default test subject and dragonsnow didn't start adding a age till ppl started talking about it
And if colin was to have an age due to the self insert nature of the game, it would likely be the same age as whoever is playing in, and that is not a very good idea
This is just untrue. the video doesnt objectively assess furries. Look at the average response when a kid is found in an nsfw server: most admins will ban them on sight. Most people WONT pull a Hollywood Celebrity sleepover. Yes youll find exceptions, those people are bad, but they are exceptions to the rule. All these anecdotes show is that they exist in the furry community too. art sites featuring corn dont deserve these stray bullets either, theyre just doing what they’ve BEEN doing. use the filter rating:s good lord. Infact, you probably dont even need to do that bc Credit Card companies got your back and might remove it all (and they were actually BEHIND a lot of the corn removal online).
I’ve been in the furry fandom for awhile, and I’ve always tried to find friends that aren’t fond of nsfw. We would joke about it, yes. But we always steered away from the dark side of a fandom. And remember, the furry fandom isn’t the only fandom to have an nsfw problem. It pretty much any fandom. But still, the furry fandom has a large percentage of furry corn.
I have been in the Furry Fandom since I was a minor and I have been VERY VERY lucky to have not met any strange individuals online Unfortunately, it was too easy for me to find NSFW content though, but I knew what it was and how to block those tags and try to filter out those things The Furry Fandom's basis is somewhat sexual and the fandom is also known for being very sex positive, but some adults don't understand how some people may dislike certain things Some adults will force other adults to look at sexual content, trying to make them think its normal in the fandom I have heard of a case where a minor who was uncomfortable with NSFW content wanted to make a space for children and people who were sex repulsed but ADULTS harassed this minor by sending them porn which is really disgusting I really hope that in the future, furries can learn to manage NSFW and SFW spaces better and how to separate them and make sure everyone can have a place
Glad to see a video like this. To this day I still don't want to call myself a furry, because I found the fandom as a minor and almost immediately had several bad experiences with groomers approaching me to show me NSFW & have inappropriate conversations with me against my will. I was 14. I still occupy furry-adjacent fandoms (primarily Sonic & Pokemon) but I can't shake the negative feelings I associate with that label now. It also doesn't help that, for a long time, whenever I spoke up or saw other people speaking up about being groomed by furries, the victim would receive tons of backlash from the community downplaying the severity of the issue and even claiming we were lying to purposefully make furries look bad to normies. As if bashing grooming victims doesn't make the fandom look absolutely horrible, lol. I'd say the fandom has gotten slightly better about supporting victims in the past few years, but it's still a massive problem imo. Overall sadly I think a lot of furries are still in denial about just how prominent these problems are. I have no issue with individual furries, I think fursuits are cool and part of me would still like one... But until I start consistently seeing better behavior from the fandom, I just don't want to be one.
7:18 Bold of you to call a sa victim a predator even though all he did was to point out the hypocrisy of the fandom Hell some furries send death threat and even tried to dox him and reach to his ex friends to dox him By ignoring that you showed what you truly are
Finally someone said it As someone’s who’s been part of the sfw furry community (formally) it fucking sucks, I especially think it’s weird, and when people call you out and shame you for “calling their hobbies weird” I don’t really have the words to argue
> "and predators" > shows a CSA victim who talked with his thrapist and says that this stuff is ok just as long as you don't bring this stuff in real life
@@SuperNova-nl5eb Therapists are supposed to agree to a lot of things their clients tell them you braindead moron. That’s why that sicko was made to believe that liking Lolicon was okay because their therapist was supposed to agree with it to make their client comfortable with the gross shit they’re into. I also know this by experience because I happen to have a therapist. You’re not a very smart man aren’t you? Art of little girls and boys with their bare ass cheeks out is not excusable and isn’t okay. It’s even more sickening to even use CSA as a main excuse. I don’t see why you would defend that, other than that accusers like you are definitely not normal and right in the head.
@@Kessiyessi "Therapists are supposed to agree to a lot of things their clients" no, therapists tell their clients to not do harmful things and help them avoid these things, otherwise my therapist would have given me praise for punching out one of my bullies for making fun of my own CSA. "You’re not a very smart man aren’t you?" I'm may not be "very" smart, but I definitely am smarter than you and your childish whinging where you use emotions instead of using logic. God damn "Therapists are supposed to agree to a lot of things their clients" next you'll tell me the earth is flat.
It frustrates me that this is a issue because I can't enjoy the amazing and talented creators on twitter or anywhere else without having to prepare myself for the onslaught of nsfw crap that I have to go through to see something sfw. its sad
I had to end a "friendship" cause the guy couldn't talk or send videos about anything but furry *orn .I'll admit I'm a furry too,but if you can't continue a conversation without the mention of lewd stuff,then you're probably too deep into the addiction.And I don't get how this kinda behavior,is slowly becoming the norm,or it's just that this side of the fandom is REALLY vocal about it.
4:40 I feel like what you say porn addiction is should be researched a bit more because in the screenshot at 4:40, it says such a diagnosis is rejected by many psychologists. From what I have researched so far, it is at least a bit more complicated, although porn can still be harmful.
One thing I don't like about the furry fandom is just how accepted e621 is as a little haha funny joke in the fandom, like it's porn website that fully allows digital cp and you can't say anything about it without getting told "if you don't like it don't look at it" and proceeding to get banned for just saying it's weird. Do we really wanna make a website that welcomes diddys with open arms and punishes you for not following the sheep mindset of "it's just a drawing" a part of our fandom? Do we really wanna have that represent our fandom? I'm fine with the fandom having a nsfw side, every fandom does, but not one that drools out of the mouth for digital children
This cannot be anymore real. Preach. And the people who scream "it's just a drawing!!!!" are usually the very people that either draw or get off to those drawings. So technically, they make themselves look even worse with such a shitty argument. But yet it still manages to make people shut up somehow. Which only shows how weak resolve can be.
To try and say it was "harder" to find NSFW in 2013 is just dishonest. DeviantArt was literally infamous for niche fetish content. Like so much of this video just feels dishonest or ignorant.
It is a good thing though that despite this, people are being more vocal when it comes to their opposition to this kind of stuff. The fandom especially as of late has always frowned upon those who engaged in illegal and truly degenerate stuff (except for those who liked that stuff as well but still) as for the over abundance of NSFW, more furries have been saying how they’ve taken an issue with it, I’ve even heard some who like NSFW mention how the fandom is over saturated. While it’s WAY too early to say that there will be anything done about this, especially since any fandom really is hard to police, there is still some amount of hope, at least that’s how I see it
Couldn't agree more, glad we are getting to it, we need a safe space for minors to exist, and not be tainted by NSFW adult stuff. Now I don't like kids in general but I still care about them somewhat.
I feel like this is a great example for how people just don’t care about groomers or pedophiles anymore. They’re just so used to it more of a joke then something that really hurts people
I'm not even into furry fandom but I don't hate on it. I'm just concerned on that side of the fandom, because why did I have to see a lot of furry corn as a child? I don't mind NSFW art because well most of people are drawing it for the money to pay their bills and they would make their account private and only allowed people 18 and above to look at their profile. But I'm honestly disgusted if a older people wants to show a minor a NSFW art work.. Like that is bad BAD!
I’ve been SAYING the furry fandom is bad, but I was always met with “oh, there’s good people” or “you’re just in the wrong side” or “oh, those are just a few weirdos” and like NO, there’s SO MUCH GROSS CONTENT and CORN CONTENT it’s like, so BAD.
I was 14 when Changed came out, then it didn't look too bad, I didn't see gameplay of of it I just looked at the transfurs, I was into transformations growing up (Sonic Unleashed and Ben 10 fueled that) and looking at transformations on UA-cam led me down a labyrinth that eventually led me to a channel that posts NSFW games, they were censored but still and I wasn't in the furry fandom yet, kind of.
It still endorses/normalizes these inappropriate, harmful k1nks, which is why it should be "illegal". Besides, you have the Greek letter zeta in your username; you're not Greek, so it must have *special* symbolism… Ew…
i am indeed seething over the fact that people are carelessly exposing minors to porn! If you ARENT mad about that fact then i would seriously be concerned
I vividly remember getting in on the transfur infection fighting game trend on Roblox, to which 13 year old me I wanted to make a transfur au of Demon Slayer where the demons are the goo creatures infecting humans for nutrients like parasites.. thankfully I ended up ditching the idea completely after looking into the actual changed game more. Like, the transfur games on Roblox back then weren’t in anyway sexual, but a lot of them had a very hard time detaching themselves from Changed and some would even just be Roblox ports of Changed. I was lucky to have fell out of love with Kaiju Paradise and the transfur Roblox community back then. Man.
That's why I stopped interacting with furries and with the community in general, this fandom normalizes most of the gross stuff, it makes them have a bad image mostly.
I love some good ol NSFW gay stuff, I'm kinda addicted to e621, but to be safe on these websites such things as "cub" "child" "loli" have to be in your backlists, It's just mind blowing, why does that stuff even exist on these sites in the first place? Nah we just need to ban all that nasty shit off these websites, and keep it away from minors in the fandom, and hence making our fandom a safer place for younger generations. But back to my Love of gay NSFW, p0rn can be a healthy habbit for an adult mind, stress relief, and all that, but keep it away from minors..... why is this so difficult for people 😒
Publicly admitting you are addicted to gay furry shit and e621 is absolutely crazy. The fandom will never be safe for younger generations because gooners are too busy busting to dog wiener going into dog asshole. Smfh
I remember when I got discord secretly when I was 12 and when I was posting on this acc (mainly my furry oc sometimes), one of my viewers added me on discord and we chatted for a bit until they started making "jokes" about making me uncomfortable and sent me completely uncensored furry 🌽 and I told them to stop because I was a minor. They never told me their age so I didn't know if they were an adult or a minor.
Yk i feel like being furry (almost) always meant you're just a weirdo who is attracted to that (no offense) so i think thats the main reason why corn is such a big problem in this fandom
the only reason why i played furry transfur games (though i have stopped playing them) was cuz no other infection games like them, i really really hope there are other infection games now that do have the combat elements of them because it's fun
fiddlepat is the reason that changed ended up getting exposed to more minors on roblox he used his online platform that he gained from being a roblox "myth" there WAS changed rp games [i would know, because i was a kid playing them] but not as mainstream fortunately i've grown up and realized how disgusting and weird that shit is, now i just distance myself from the fandom and no longer say i'm a furry [even though i still like anthromorphic animals]
These are Internet problems, and the furry community is primarily on the internet. Also on sexual stuff, even on reddit and Mastodon it's hard to find it while not marked as NSFW. With Discord parents should be careful in general! And really as long as it is clearly marked (and has a at least some measures to stop kids from seeing it anyway) it is fine. And for changed, it should at least be 16+ (special Edition 18+) to be in line (sadly better rated) than most media, but transformation on its own is not necessarily a fetish, it can so easily be horror or just a great narrative device. You cannot separate them easily. And again this is a general Internet problem, the furry community is one of the best at handling it, just look at the Object Show Community or any other Internet born community...
Jeez I joined the fandom back in 2020 after depression hit me badly. Also Jasonafex and Kabier are bad people because of the whole... Freefurall incident. The NSFW side is more of a "TF2 PNG of a coconut holding an entire thing together" for me. I'm in the middle of that debate. But Jasonafex and Kabier will forever be hated by me for the s**t they pulled in Oklahoma back during the freefurall con that happened almost 2 years ago. Also the NSFW furry side also is a moneymaker. The VA side of the whole thing makes it more of a moral grey area for me. Especially since I myself am working to become a VA. I myself am part of the LGBTQ and BI. But yeah. Dragoneer was a f**ked up guy. But he did make a site that helped keep us together as a fandom. And on the NSFW topic. Yeah NSFW voice acting is a moral grey area. Sure it makes bank but it also can be a bit of a fun thing to train your voice to use for other forms of voice acting.
i am a furry who sadly before turning into one was exposed to Changed,but "fortunately" at a adult age,even after a bit of gameplay i aleready knew that this is just to fulfill the needs of a transfur fetishist,the sheer fact that Colin himself gets into these weird positions in those scenes,and the amount of people claiming that Changed (somehow) is not a fetish game just made me want to forget about Changed itself,and the fact that it actually got to roblox terrifies me to the core gladly i did distance myself from the fandom and just wanna forget about that part of this,which im not going to lie,was the beginning of becoming a furry,but didn't started all of that singlehandedly plus,i do feel very uncomfortable about NSFW to the point that when i sent my ref sheet on a furry reddit,i instantly asked to not make any explicit arts about my fursona,that's how it makes me uncomfortable that degens feel so okay in the furry fandom,that they manage to share their addictions among young children 10:14,oh,by the way,i found the video,saw the thumbnail and knew who was the artist of this "piece",it's sanu,a guy who also draws cub porn,and somehow got respect in Changed community,so yeah,your fears about characters looking very young is confirmed since this guy himself draws that type of "arts" and got away with it
I was introduced to Changed and all that other stuff when I was really little and it kinda messed me up. I hate that game and I've recovered now. It also messed up one of my ex friends too and they got it worse than me and became a full on furry corn addict..
I WILL LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING TOO. the fact there was once a whole TREND on the internet a while back where furries would categorize what role prefs someone would have depending on their fursona species, most not having ANY 18+ warnings and on apps where literally ANYONE including minors could get into and see that type of content and call themselves these roles because their fursona so happened to be a fox or an otter. we need to seriously unnormalize sexual conversation or just sexual shit as a whole being a topic being brought up constantly in this fandom. ive been apart of it for almost 8 years now and it hasn't gotten better💔
@kasperspace Which ya , But like if it's adults doing it with people their own age it's whatever , I personally dislike that side. So perhaps it's just me actively avoiding it and not seeing that side since I avoid it
while i generally agree with the sentiment of this video, there is a lot of blatantly misinformed and bad takes throughout it for one example, describing a game as "obviously trying to appeal to & look like children" just because it has a chibified artstyle is... well whatever a nicer way of saying stupid is i suppose
Honestly I despise the rampant issue of The furry fandom often consisting of Nsfw and encouragement of showing k1nks publically, personally I was a victim by this as it was easy to access as an unsupervised child, as well as people showing said k1nks to other people without moderation. From other furries (I am not one personally but I know MANY of them), a lot of their fet1shes and k1nks rooted from exposure at an early age + often seeing it so often. I wouldn't say people like these should be ashamed as they are adults and have the right to do whatever they wish. But many furries especially younger adults + teens become sexual because of the constant exposure of things like these, even I am affected by it. I honestly hate it and no, I won't say I'm an antifurry either, but I just wish that this side of the fandom wasn't the thing most people outside it notice the most AND wasn't the main problem that influences other people to become more depraved and disgusting in the open. One more thing I'd like to say so that people, when discussing this issue say "That's just a normal furry thing!" "Idc about the reputation of furries" or whatnot. Counter to this is that because of this problem it has influenced children and I'm certain that people will automatically assume that this community is nothing but predators and well,, gooners. I hope more people can reach out to this video, it was a great deepdive onto this massive yet so normalised issue within the furry community. 💖
The thing with like dragon snow is that he wanted to be credited under transfer games based on changed. These transfer games were published on ROBLOX-a platform made up of mostly CHILDREN. Another thing that I heard was that he saw a picture of someone attend a birthday party with kids as puro and thought it was cute. I used to love changed as a kid, but the creator just isn't a good guy. I regret buying that game. OHHH YEAHH also also there was a video floating around by a certain creator who showed screenshots of dragon snow saying something like "oh you westerners just don't understand the culture here in china" but yeah that's basically why I don't like that guy.
Kaiju Paradise? I mean it’s really not that game’s style of music (I haven’t played that game in 3 years because it is literally a whole different game now, it sucks) but it’s possible
All communities suck, even ours and a house like that, there is no need for a video, we know, I do it but surely sometimes I think furries have serious problems but I like fursuits and drawings that stuff is a bit too much
don't take away their freedom!!! you're reducing them to nothing bit a husk of their former self by taking away their only personality trait!!! (it's their life force trust)
I love being a furry because I like expressing my self as someone who doesn't have a big sense of self and it gives me a mask to wear when I dont really know who I am. But I have seen the furry fandom degrade and even myself being brought down. I have suffered from a /orn addiction since I was, what, 9-11? Probably 10 but I was online since I was very young, and ramped up as I have began online chatting at 11. It is very, very much corrupting to minors. And it messed me up really really really bad. It is sad to see so much so much unrestricted nsfw, zoos and peds in a community that people should feel safe in . Stay strong soldiers. 🫡
Hello everyone,
This is a really late comment on this topic but I'm going to go over it anyway.
I've been getting some comments retaining to a certain individual I referenced at 7:18
That person is actually NOT a furry, and from what I've learned from people is a CSA victim, not a predator.
I'm really sorry to the individual that I pretty much slapped the label of 'predator' on this person in this video.
I was really lazy and reckless with my research and references. This was a terrible fuck up I've caused for this person and myself.
It was a big mistake that I will NEVER do again. I will be a lot more careful when making these types of videos next time.
Again, major apology to this individual for doing that to you along with you getting doxxed several days before this video released.
Nobody deserves getting doxxed and I hope this person is doing better now.
Though my opinions of this person are soured like milk in the hot sun due to the fact they are a Lolicon defender/enjoyer.
I don't like anybody who consumes this type of content and I NEVER will and NOBODY will ever change my opinions on
why Lolicon and Shotacon are inherently bad.
You can call me a bad person who just falsely gave someone the title of predator on a video that was kinda rushed af,
but don't call my actions worse than the person who legit posts suggestive art of anime girls that haven't looked like they reached puberty yet
with their bare ass cheeks out, and saying "Lolicon and Pedophilia aren't the same.", which gives off the same energy as "Zoosadism and Zoophilia aren't the same.".
Also, I DONT CARE IF IT'S FICTIONALIZED AND THEY'RE 3000 YEARS OLD!!!! IF THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE ADULTS,
THEN IT'S STILL ART PROMOTING THE SEXUALIZATION OF MINORS. STOP USING THAT DEFENSIVE ARGUMENT.
Also also, while I agree it's not as egregious as real CP, it still contributes to the problem that I just talked about now.
All I can say at this point is that I hope this person receives help, or gets better help if their lackluster therapist agrees with this deviant behavior.
I wish no ill will against this person and I hope they get professional help.
Ahh, I see, thanks.
See, your whole argument relies on "they look like children" when they clearly fucking aren't. When people talk about lolis, they're talking about petite anime girls. Sure there's kanna or others like that, and then there's Frieren, Rebecca, Tatsumaki, Lamù, Megumin and so on. They are lolis because they have a more "moe" focused design. The trope covers anime girls that have petite features. Think of something gothic lolita. Pedophilia
Meanwhile furry is mostly about sexualizing fictional (although a lot of them have been caught doing stuff with the real deal or worse) animals. And that's it, sure there's the sfw corner, but it's nothing compared to the rest, the most popular furry image boards focusing mostly on nsfw is a good example of it. Humanoid or not, the whole point is the animal features. And yes this counts fucking Pokémons, monsters from MH, or any creature like that. By the same logic you're using for lolis (which again, is a trope about character design, NOT age or "looking like a child/sexualizing them", of course there's nsfw, if you go to r-18 sections you're gonna find Tatsumaki porn), being a furry is being a zoophile.
Also, Bandy IS a furry. Dunno where you got that lol
Im not too fond of the nsfw in the furry fandom but that is sadly due to many older furries trying to groom a young teenage me into it. It is so disappointing that everytime I’ve tried to be friends with other furrys it always ended up that way. Like you can enjoy the nsfw in the fandom im fine with that, but PLEASE keep it away from minors. I legit thought that was common sense but at this point im doubtful of that fact ;-;
So real
This is why I hate furries
Same thoughts exactly my dude, god I love gay yiff, but keep it away from minors....
@@jasperfox6821why?
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I’ve seen a lot of underaged furries getting harassed by GROWN ADULT furries for not liking nsfw. It’s normal for a child to be disgusted by those things. Ur a grown adult and u shouldn’t be harassing children finding ur s3x suit/or art gross. I’ve also seen grown furries trying to force children who are disgusted with nsfw to LIKE it.😧And for those who are wondering: i see ts all the time on furry TikTok. So glad this video exists because I’ve been saying this a lot and also been getting attacked by other furries for it.
THIS !! I had to deal with this when I was at my early stages of the fandom, many furry adults I've encountered have gotten mad about others and sometimes me for not liking nsfw or just community, you are a grown adult with a fully developed brain and the ability to decide what is right or wrong, some even have the audacity to use their mental disorders when they're confronted for this kind of thing, it's horrible really. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who noticed this and just disturbed by it to be honest.
@@BLAKESCRIBBLES right like when I was 13, I was in a group of furries online, and I told them I told them I didn’t like furry 🌽 and they got mad at me and then told me “how can u not like it, it’s the best thing ever” like ew..
Finally someone said it! I feel like every time this criticism is brougt up in the fandom it’s shot down with “well that’s what being a furry is all about”, which most of the time just cope for personal porn addiction. As much as porn is a part of it, I always thought it was more about community then straight up 24/7 porn, looking for any community is near impossible because every conversation ultimately circles around to porn. It gets worse when you join a server that has minors and it’s the same there too.
Ive not heard a single person who isn't a sex creep in some way say "well that's what being a furry is all about" I agree it's an issue but posing strawmen to get angry about poses more harm then good especially in a discussion like this
As someone that orbits around Changed, I want to share my view point.
The Colin being minor debate was made as a drama from someone that probably hated the guy and wanted to cancel him and made up lies about Colin being minor. Originally the character had no canon age and was "blend" because it was meant to be a self-insert character for the player. (Also OG changed was way tamer than the things we get now.)
And no, the game is not meant to be for kids, but youtube happened and it got picked up by a child (cult) channel, and boom. Now kids are being showned this. And on the same note, DragonSnow publicly stated his disgust for people trying to add his fetish ideas on roblox and beefed with some the biggest games with this concept (that also are for most of them a safe haven for predators(how surprising))
child build but ok
The furry fandom since it's founding has always had a sexual side to it and I don't think it's inherently a bad thing just because you don't like it. When it comes to minors I admit corn shouldn't be as easily accessible but that's a problem with the internet at large not just furries.
As an Asexual furry. This is why I don't interact with the fandom anymore. Its getting to far😞
Asexuality is objectively weirder than hypersexuality. Sorry, it just is. You're unable to feel a core emotion vital to human survival. Lucky for you, we aren't the ones supporting calls to take away your rights. That's your side doing that.
@@GloomyLoon nazifur, woah what a gigachad of she
@@pablopablo1620 I am a furry and an anti furry. I'm being hunted down for being a rare breed of furry technically 👹👹👹👺👺🤑
The thing that bugs me the most is that so many people posting the content can't even be bothered to MARK their posts as nsfw. It takes literally 2 seconds. At best it's just laziness, but sometimes it seems outright malicious. So yeah, even if you having the stuff set to be hidden in your settings you'll still see it anyway. It's unavoidable if you go anywhere online. If you're a minor stay far away, it sucks but it's for your own good.
LITERALLY it annoys me to no end
that or posting clearly suggestive content in a space with minors in general
I wouldn’t say it’s just an issue in specifically the furry fandom either, it seems like the world is slows turning into an over-sexualized place and everyone excuses it as a “joke”
Really though, some people make the furry fandom and furries in general, 'bad'. Some furries that I have met are pretty cool/nice, but that doesn't mean that it's not still a problem in the community. They really need to 'improve', but I'd doubt that'd happen. Many are slandered, and that's how it'll all be. (I'm not a furry myself, but if you are a furry, and you respect me, and I respect you, fair. Like that Eminem quote, “I don't care if you're black, white, straight, bisexual, gay, lesbian, short, tall, fat, skinny, rich or poor. If you're nice to me, I'll be nice to you. Simple as that!”
― Eminem)
Just as a bit of a correction that I had to give some twitter grifter months back: Changed itself was never marketed towards kids and the developer has voiced concerns/frustration with the "Transfur" community in underaged spaces like Roblox.
He doesn't associate or give them permission to use his game as a gateway for grooming kids. Just wanted to clarify.
I think the worst part about it is that the fandom originally did form from the sexual aspect of the furry community, not to say its inherently a sexual hobby but just from that factor theres gonna be alot of that kind of stuff and it rlly sucks
Be nice if the fandom could just tone down the sex stuff a tad, although recently that's what they're doing.
Hey man, thanks for making this video.
I've been in this fandom for a while now, and was unfortunately exposed to the darker sides of this fandom when I was very young. Like the "transfur" community, and even worse, the gross degenerate zoos/p3dos who attempted to groom me and made me think that stuff was okay. Even hypnotist sappho followed my tiktok page at one point when i was like 14 which honestly makes me sick to think about nowadays. I'm okay now, luckily nothing extreme happened or anything but I'm still recovering from all this.
I just wish this fandom wasn't so full of awful people. I hope that younger furs in this generation won't have to experience the same stuff as I did, but unfortunately the futures looking pretty bleak with all these content farms and ""kids"" channels that just post borderline nsfw and ai slop.
Hey.. i can somewhat relate to you since i was also exposed to the gross side of the fandoms at a young age thanks to my "friend", i just want to tell you that you are never alone even in these specific situations, hope you can recover one day ❤️🩹
When a furry acually talks about the problems in the fandom instead of sugarcoating it:
If there's one thing I hate on furry NSFW art is some artist draw a anatomical correct female dog genital
Same can be said with male too
Me too
fr bro its fucking gross, thats so zoophilic it makes us look bad. its disgusting
Sorry but... I wouldn't even know how to recognize that and I'm not sure why you do 😅
@@leafface5890 because there's a MAJOR difference? Its legit common knowledge to know what the difference is between the two unless you've never seen an animal in your life. Which is very... highly unlikely.
Oh boy interesting thing about Changed is don't think Colin even was meant to have a age at all considering Changed is more of an insert character that is meant to be a stand in for a default test subject and dragonsnow didn't start adding a age till ppl started talking about it
And if colin was to have an age due to the self insert nature of the game, it would likely be the same age as whoever is playing in, and that is not a very good idea
This is just untrue. the video doesnt objectively assess furries. Look at the average response when a kid is found in an nsfw server: most admins will ban them on sight. Most people WONT pull a Hollywood Celebrity sleepover. Yes youll find exceptions, those people are bad, but they are exceptions to the rule. All these anecdotes show is that they exist in the furry community too.
art sites featuring corn dont deserve these stray bullets either, theyre just doing what they’ve BEEN doing. use the filter rating:s good lord. Infact, you probably dont even need to do that bc Credit Card companies got your back and might remove it all (and they were actually BEHIND a lot of the corn removal online).
I’ve been in the furry fandom for awhile, and I’ve always tried to find friends that aren’t fond of nsfw. We would joke about it, yes. But we always steered away from the dark side of a fandom. And remember, the furry fandom isn’t the only fandom to have an nsfw problem. It pretty much any fandom. But still, the furry fandom has a large percentage of furry corn.
I have been in the Furry Fandom since I was a minor and I have been VERY VERY lucky to have not met any strange individuals online
Unfortunately, it was too easy for me to find NSFW content though, but I knew what it was and how to block those tags and try to filter out those things
The Furry Fandom's basis is somewhat sexual and the fandom is also known for being very sex positive, but some adults don't understand how some people may dislike certain things
Some adults will force other adults to look at sexual content, trying to make them think its normal in the fandom
I have heard of a case where a minor who was uncomfortable with NSFW content wanted to make a space for children and people who were sex repulsed but ADULTS harassed this minor by sending them porn which is really disgusting
I really hope that in the future, furries can learn to manage NSFW and SFW spaces better and how to separate them and make sure everyone can have a place
Glad to see a video like this.
To this day I still don't want to call myself a furry, because I found the fandom as a minor and almost immediately had several bad experiences with groomers approaching me to show me NSFW & have inappropriate conversations with me against my will. I was 14. I still occupy furry-adjacent fandoms (primarily Sonic & Pokemon) but I can't shake the negative feelings I associate with that label now. It also doesn't help that, for a long time, whenever I spoke up or saw other people speaking up about being groomed by furries, the victim would receive tons of backlash from the community downplaying the severity of the issue and even claiming we were lying to purposefully make furries look bad to normies. As if bashing grooming victims doesn't make the fandom look absolutely horrible, lol. I'd say the fandom has gotten slightly better about supporting victims in the past few years, but it's still a massive problem imo.
Overall sadly I think a lot of furries are still in denial about just how prominent these problems are. I have no issue with individual furries, I think fursuits are cool and part of me would still like one... But until I start consistently seeing better behavior from the fandom, I just don't want to be one.
I know we do but my fellow asexuals are trying to keep it at a minimum
7:18
Bold of you to call a sa victim a predator even though all he did was to point out the hypocrisy of the fandom
Hell some furries send death threat and even tried to dox him and reach to his ex friends to dox him
By ignoring that you showed what you truly are
Good
Truthfully, if you just on the Internet you will see 34
Finally someone said it
As someone’s who’s been part of the sfw furry community (formally) it fucking sucks, I especially think it’s weird, and when people call you out and shame you for “calling their hobbies weird” I don’t really have the words to argue
> "and predators"
> shows a CSA victim who talked with his thrapist and says that this stuff is ok just as long as you don't bring this stuff in real life
Imma need the post link, i cant find it 😞
TO USE THAT AS AN EXCUSE IS FUCKING CRAZY.
You people are fucking SICK.
@Kessiyessi you know what IS crazy? Acting like you know better than professionals.
@@SuperNova-nl5eb Therapists are supposed to agree to a lot of things their clients tell them you braindead moron.
That’s why that sicko was made to believe that liking Lolicon was okay because their therapist was supposed to agree with it to make their client comfortable with the gross shit they’re into.
I also know this by experience because I happen to have a therapist.
You’re not a very smart man aren’t you?
Art of little girls and boys with their bare ass cheeks out is not excusable and isn’t okay.
It’s even more sickening to even use CSA as a main excuse. I don’t see why you would defend that, other than that accusers like you are definitely not normal and right in the head.
@@Kessiyessi "Therapists are supposed to agree to a lot of things their clients" no, therapists tell their clients to not do harmful things and help them avoid these things, otherwise my therapist would have given me praise for punching out one of my bullies for making fun of my own CSA.
"You’re not a very smart man aren’t you?" I'm may not be "very" smart, but I definitely am smarter than you and your childish whinging where you use emotions instead of using logic. God damn "Therapists are supposed to agree to a lot of things their clients" next you'll tell me the earth is flat.
It frustrates me that this is a issue because I can't enjoy the amazing and talented creators on twitter or anywhere else without having to prepare myself for the onslaught of nsfw crap that I have to go through to see something sfw. its sad
I had to end a "friendship" cause the guy couldn't talk or send videos about anything but furry *orn .I'll admit I'm a furry too,but if you can't continue a conversation without the mention of lewd stuff,then you're probably too deep into the addiction.And I don't get how this kinda behavior,is slowly becoming the norm,or it's just that this side of the fandom is REALLY vocal about it.
4:40 I feel like what you say porn addiction is should be researched a bit more because in the screenshot at 4:40, it says such a diagnosis is rejected by many psychologists. From what I have researched so far, it is at least a bit more complicated, although porn can still be harmful.
7:18 ain't no way you are trying to get Bandy in this lmfao
One thing I don't like about the furry fandom is just how accepted e621 is as a little haha funny joke in the fandom, like it's porn website that fully allows digital cp and you can't say anything about it without getting told "if you don't like it don't look at it" and proceeding to get banned for just saying it's weird. Do we really wanna make a website that welcomes diddys with open arms and punishes you for not following the sheep mindset of "it's just a drawing" a part of our fandom? Do we really wanna have that represent our fandom?
I'm fine with the fandom having a nsfw side, every fandom does, but not one that drools out of the mouth for digital children
I think e6 and FA have started banning that shit finally.
true
This cannot be anymore real. Preach. And the people who scream "it's just a drawing!!!!" are usually the very people that either draw or get off to those drawings.
So technically, they make themselves look even worse with such a shitty argument. But yet it still manages to make people shut up somehow. Which only shows how weak resolve can be.
To try and say it was "harder" to find NSFW in 2013 is just dishonest. DeviantArt was literally infamous for niche fetish content. Like so much of this video just feels dishonest or ignorant.
It is a good thing though that despite this, people are being more vocal when it comes to their opposition to this kind of stuff. The fandom especially as of late has always frowned upon those who engaged in illegal and truly degenerate stuff (except for those who liked that stuff as well but still) as for the over abundance of NSFW, more furries have been saying how they’ve taken an issue with it, I’ve even heard some who like NSFW mention how the fandom is over saturated. While it’s WAY too early to say that there will be anything done about this, especially since any fandom really is hard to police, there is still some amount of hope, at least that’s how I see it
Couldn't agree more, glad we are getting to it, we need a safe space for minors to exist, and not be tainted by NSFW adult stuff. Now I don't like kids in general but I still care about them somewhat.
8:26 I saw games like this on Roblox, and I used to play them before finding out the inappropriate parts ☹️
Bandytsune isn't a predator they are a CSA victim. don't go around slandering people over drawings.
They were also doxed (alongside their friends iirc) and sent multiple death threats. Love how dude ignored that lol
Man how about you read my post about it and stfu
@@Kessiyessi lolicon isn't pedophilia. cope and seethe
@@Kessiyessi Comments were from a month ago, I even forgot about this video lmfao
I feel like this is a great example for how people just don’t care about groomers or pedophiles anymore. They’re just so used to it more of a joke then something that really hurts people
We all know it from the 1980s
What I always find funny is when a furry tries to accuse a lolicon of pdfilia. This is probably the most ironic siht you can imagine.
Thanks for talking about this, its something that needs to be talked about more.
I'm not even into furry fandom but I don't hate on it. I'm just concerned on that side of the fandom, because why did I have to see a lot of furry corn as a child? I don't mind NSFW art because well most of people are drawing it for the money to pay their bills and they would make their account private and only allowed people 18 and above to look at their profile. But I'm honestly disgusted if a older people wants to show a minor a NSFW art work.. Like that is bad BAD!
Low key feel like it's a problem with the internet at large
(I.E. how big 2g1c got)
Grass is green???
I’ve been SAYING the furry fandom is bad, but I was always met with “oh, there’s good people” or “you’re just in the wrong side” or “oh, those are just a few weirdos” and like NO, there’s SO MUCH GROSS CONTENT and CORN CONTENT it’s like, so BAD.
That's pretty much any fandom, the problem is that the furry fandom focuses on nsfw stuff. So obv you're gonna see a lot of that
Well done video, Kessi! I've been a fan of your videos since your fnaf video. Keep going strong and pretty good persona!
Ngl i used to play a transfur roblox game with my friend because we didn’t know the origins 😭🙏 now more recently understanding what it really was barf
Congrats on getting 6k! Im glad ur getting recognized wayyy more
I was 14 when Changed came out, then it didn't look too bad, I didn't see gameplay of of it I just looked at the transfurs, I was into transformations growing up (Sonic Unleashed and Ben 10 fueled that) and looking at transformations on UA-cam led me down a labyrinth that eventually led me to a channel that posts NSFW games, they were censored but still and I wasn't in the furry fandom yet, kind of.
"illegal r34" ..??? fictional that depicts fictional people content cannot be illegal
Big L
It still endorses/normalizes these inappropriate, harmful k1nks, which is why it should be "illegal". Besides, you have the Greek letter zeta in your username; you're not Greek, so it must have *special* symbolism… Ew…
Real
Oh but it is, in many parts of the world in fact. And soon it will be illegal in the US once the people wake up to what is happening to them.
people who beat it to anime girls that look like kindergarteners use that same excuse BTW 💜
Cope and seethe about it
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It’s 2024 grow up that insult is over used
i am indeed seething over the fact that people are carelessly exposing minors to porn! If you ARENT mad about that fact then i would seriously be concerned
What is that fursuit dance competition video you used as a background?
It's either the BLFC 2014 or 2015 dance competition 👀
even myself, an furry, agree with this,
good video, high quality, i'd love to see more from you
I vividly remember getting in on the transfur infection fighting game trend on Roblox, to which 13 year old me I wanted to make a transfur au of Demon Slayer where the demons are the goo creatures infecting humans for nutrients like parasites.. thankfully I ended up ditching the idea completely after looking into the actual changed game more. Like, the transfur games on Roblox back then weren’t in anyway sexual, but a lot of them had a very hard time detaching themselves from Changed and some would even just be Roblox ports of Changed. I was lucky to have fell out of love with Kaiju Paradise and the transfur Roblox community back then. Man.
That's why I stopped interacting with furries and with the community in general, this fandom normalizes most of the gross stuff, it makes them have a bad image mostly.
I love some good ol NSFW gay stuff, I'm kinda addicted to e621, but to be safe on these websites such things as "cub" "child" "loli" have to be in your backlists, It's just mind blowing, why does that stuff even exist on these sites in the first place?
Nah we just need to ban all that nasty shit off these websites, and keep it away from minors in the fandom, and hence making our fandom a safer place for younger generations.
But back to my Love of gay NSFW, p0rn can be a healthy habbit for an adult mind, stress relief, and all that, but keep it away from minors..... why is this so difficult for people 😒
people? nah, just gooners
Please quit the addiction for the sake of your own HAPPINESS. There is nothing to lose by quitting pron and so much to be gained!
Publicly admitting you are addicted to gay furry shit and e621 is absolutely crazy.
The fandom will never be safe for younger generations because gooners are too busy busting to dog wiener going into dog asshole. Smfh
I'm not in the fandom I do have a character inspired by sonic the hedgehog & freedom planet but the community just sounds disgusting
I remember when I got discord secretly when I was 12 and when I was posting on this acc (mainly my furry oc sometimes), one of my viewers added me on discord and we chatted for a bit until they started making "jokes" about making me uncomfortable and sent me completely uncensored furry 🌽 and I told them to stop because I was a minor. They never told me their age so I didn't know if they were an adult or a minor.
Yk i feel like being furry (almost) always meant you're just a weirdo who is attracted to that (no offense) so i think thats the main reason why corn is such a big problem in this fandom
the only reason why i played furry transfur games (though i have stopped playing them) was cuz no other infection games like them, i really really hope there are other infection games now that do have the combat elements of them because it's fun
fiddlepat is the reason that changed ended up getting exposed to more minors on roblox
he used his online platform that he gained from being a roblox "myth"
there WAS changed rp games [i would know, because i was a kid playing them] but not as mainstream
fortunately i've grown up and realized how disgusting and weird that shit is, now i just distance myself from the fandom and no longer say i'm a furry [even though i still like anthromorphic animals]
bruh
These are Internet problems, and the furry community is primarily on the internet. Also on sexual stuff, even on reddit and Mastodon it's hard to find it while not marked as NSFW. With Discord parents should be careful in general!
And really as long as it is clearly marked (and has a at least some measures to stop kids from seeing it anyway) it is fine. And for changed, it should at least be 16+ (special Edition 18+) to be in line (sadly better rated) than most media, but transformation on its own is not necessarily a fetish, it can so easily be horror or just a great narrative device. You cannot separate them easily.
And again this is a general Internet problem, the furry community is one of the best at handling it, just look at the Object Show Community or any other Internet born community...
Jeez I joined the fandom back in 2020 after depression hit me badly.
Also Jasonafex and Kabier are bad people because of the whole... Freefurall incident. The NSFW side is more of a "TF2 PNG of a coconut holding an entire thing together" for me. I'm in the middle of that debate.
But Jasonafex and Kabier will forever be hated by me for the s**t they pulled in Oklahoma back during the freefurall con that happened almost 2 years ago.
Also the NSFW furry side also is a moneymaker. The VA side of the whole thing makes it more of a moral grey area for me. Especially since I myself am working to become a VA.
I myself am part of the LGBTQ and BI.
But yeah. Dragoneer was a f**ked up guy. But he did make a site that helped keep us together as a fandom.
And on the NSFW topic.
Yeah NSFW voice acting is a moral grey area. Sure it makes bank but it also can be a bit of a fun thing to train your voice to use for other forms of voice acting.
Water is wet, fork found in kitchen . Weve been dealing with it for decades at this point lmao
"grrr 5 hours and only 33 likes? bro fell off!!!"
but seriously, goated video
i am a furry who sadly before turning into one was exposed to Changed,but "fortunately" at a adult age,even after a bit of gameplay i aleready knew that this is just to fulfill the needs of a transfur fetishist,the sheer fact that Colin himself gets into these weird positions in those scenes,and the amount of people claiming that Changed (somehow) is not a fetish game just made me want to forget about Changed itself,and the fact that it actually got to roblox terrifies me to the core
gladly i did distance myself from the fandom and just wanna forget about that part of this,which im not going to lie,was the beginning of becoming a furry,but didn't started all of that singlehandedly
plus,i do feel very uncomfortable about NSFW to the point that when i sent my ref sheet on a furry reddit,i instantly asked to not make any explicit arts about my fursona,that's how it makes me uncomfortable that degens feel so okay in the furry fandom,that they manage to share their addictions among young children
10:14,oh,by the way,i found the video,saw the thumbnail and knew who was the artist of this "piece",it's sanu,a guy who also draws cub porn,and somehow got respect in Changed community,so yeah,your fears about characters looking very young is confirmed since this guy himself draws that type of "arts" and got away with it
I was introduced to Changed and all that other stuff when I was really little and it kinda messed me up. I hate that game and I've recovered now. It also messed up one of my ex friends too and they got it worse than me and became a full on furry corn addict..
I WILL LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING TOO.
the fact there was once a whole TREND on the internet a while back where furries would categorize what role prefs someone would have depending on their fursona species, most not having ANY 18+ warnings and on apps where literally ANYONE including minors could get into and see that type of content and call themselves these roles because their fursona so happened to be a fox or an otter.
we need to seriously unnormalize sexual conversation or just sexual shit as a whole being a topic being brought up constantly in this fandom.
ive been apart of it for almost 8 years now and it hasn't gotten better💔
Same issue with any other fandom -._-.
If you watched the video, they pointed that out but also brought up how the furry communitys nsfw side is MUCH MORE bigger than the sfw side of it :/
@kasperspace Which ya , But like if it's adults doing it with people their own age it's whatever , I personally dislike that side. So perhaps it's just me actively avoiding it and not seeing that side since I avoid it
@kasperspace so that makes sense then thank you for clarifying :D
BattleTech and WH40k fandoms doesn't have some much P*rn crap like here.
while i generally agree with the sentiment of this video, there is a lot of blatantly misinformed and bad takes throughout it
for one example, describing a game as "obviously trying to appeal to & look like children" just because it has a chibified artstyle is... well whatever a nicer way of saying stupid is i suppose
Honestly I despise the rampant issue of The furry fandom often consisting of Nsfw and encouragement of showing k1nks publically, personally I was a victim by this as it was easy to access as an unsupervised child, as well as people showing said k1nks to other people without moderation.
From other furries (I am not one personally but I know MANY of them), a lot of their fet1shes and k1nks rooted from exposure at an early age + often seeing it so often. I wouldn't say people like these should be ashamed as they are adults and have the right to do whatever they wish. But many furries especially younger adults + teens become sexual because of the constant exposure of things like these, even I am affected by it. I honestly hate it and no, I won't say I'm an antifurry either, but I just wish that this side of the fandom wasn't the thing most people outside it notice the most AND wasn't the main problem that influences other people to become more depraved and disgusting in the open.
One more thing I'd like to say so that people, when discussing this issue say "That's just a normal furry thing!" "Idc about the reputation of furries" or whatnot. Counter to this is that because of this problem it has influenced children and I'm certain that people will automatically assume that this community is nothing but predators and well,, gooners. I hope more people can reach out to this video, it was a great deepdive onto this massive yet so normalised issue within the furry community. 💖
>predators
>shows a CSA victim ( 7:18 )
god forbid there be a actually good video/take on phorn
I hated nsfw for those things, not for begin nsfw
gotta agree with this
You don't say
The thing with like dragon snow is that he wanted to be credited under transfer games based on changed. These transfer games were published on ROBLOX-a platform made up of mostly CHILDREN. Another thing that I heard was that he saw a picture of someone attend a birthday party with kids as puro and thought it was cute. I used to love changed as a kid, but the creator just isn't a good guy. I regret buying that game. OHHH YEAHH also also there was a video floating around by a certain creator who showed screenshots of dragon snow saying something like "oh you westerners just don't understand the culture here in china" but yeah that's basically why I don't like that guy.
What can I say? Can’t control people for making art
you realised that just now?
0:28 song name? (I heard it once in a furry infection game and I still don't know the name)
Transfurred?
@@Alan-vy5ih nah
Kaiju Paradise? I mean it’s really not that game’s style of music (I haven’t played that game in 3 years because it is literally a whole different game now, it sucks) but it’s possible
@@Wolfdog992 ahh no it was the old stages of TPR (the petting room)
Yes finally someone speaking it omfg
i mean, most fandom has a problem around it..
Oh please, tell me the trees are made of wood too.
Is it just me or is their fursona wearing the jacket from hotline miami?
YES
Stopped by to leave a dislike.
you brought up r34 but not e6?
Watch the rest of the video
glad to see a furry calling this stuff out!
I am a ( bi ) furry but this is bad… ( not the video ) yeah this is a problem
yeah part of the reason i left. aint wanna be associated with literal freaksters!!!
Off topic but cool fursona
On topic but I agree with you
This never happens in the shotacon spaces ❤
Shotacon? Okay ew
All communities suck, even ours and a house like that, there is no need for a video, we know, I do it but surely sometimes I think furries have serious problems but I like fursuits and drawings that stuff is a bit too much
You mean like Kris?
yeah what else is new
What's the origin of the thumbnail art to the left?
i drew that lol
@Kessiyessi oh ok.
Not the phorn prolem!
don't take away their freedom!!! you're reducing them to nothing bit a husk of their former self by taking away their only personality trait!!! (it's their life force trust)
No shit
I love being a furry because I like expressing my self as someone who doesn't have a big sense of self and it gives me a mask to wear when I dont really know who I am. But I have seen the furry fandom degrade and even myself being brought down. I have suffered from a /orn addiction since I was, what, 9-11? Probably 10 but I was online since I was very young, and ramped up as I have began online chatting at 11. It is very, very much corrupting to minors. And it messed me up really really really bad. It is sad to see so much so much unrestricted nsfw, zoos and peds in a community that people should feel safe in . Stay strong soldiers. 🫡
We been knew.
make porn illegal
No. Don't. Just keep it away from minors and don't be stupid af.
Then people are gonna turn to 🍇
yea.
Brain injury?
it is not that serious
good video
second
blud why could you want to be in the furry fandom💀