@@joelperezcontreras4735 Be the first to create it. You could literally be rich. Just need some programmers and possible licensing. If you provide delivery where there is none, you’ll be rich.
No No not at all The guys put in miles on the car the guys put in miles on a tires tires going to have to get replaced car is going to have to get replaced and he's completely ignoring the cost of the tires and the cost of the car this is actually useless information it's actually bad information since people like you were thinking oh this is great this is what people need to figure out if it's worth doing No it's not you need to afford the car every mile you drive in that car it's costing you money not in fuel in longevity of the vehicle I paid for my car $400 for a set of tires I've driven probably 30,000 miles on those tires That's $200 just because I didn't buy tires yet doesn't mean that $200 ain't there I bought my car with $170,000 mi on it two years ago it has 207,000 now do I just again not factor in the fact that this car is not going to last till 43 billion miles useless information posted here small brain information
Was just thinking this lmao. I work 60 hours a week and make base 22 an hour but because of how much OT I get on a regular basis it’s closer to 28 an hour. Not saying it’s not a bad grind but it’s definitely not a long term thing. I think that’s why most people use it as a second job for the extra cash
I swear by Toyota Corollas. My first car in 2003 was an 87 Toyota Corolla. I ramped a 4 ft pile of dried asphalt (on accident-long story) and that damn thing still went 80 down the freeway and ran for many years after. It was still running at 320K miles when I finally got rid of it.
How's your medical coverage paid ? Did you put any money toward retirement ? This is a part time job at best. Should not be used as a regular job in my opinion
@@BIGDAWGBITE18but what if you’re making as much as you would working somewhere else? You just don’t like the idea of it, I’m sure you’re probably older.
@@jacobmaz8157 Have you tried it? The amount of deductions you can take will almost certainly be in your favor. I have written off new cars and after all was done, I even got some money back. I only do Uber and make 9 to 12k a month. When I invest money in my business, that offsets my tax burden. It's not a bad deal when you can make 134k a year and still get 600 dollars back in taxes because my tax burden was actually positive. So I legally didn't have to pay a dime in taxes, The feds paid me. And I have a nice fleet of cars that I service myself to save even more. Where if I was an employee, In order to see 134k a year, I would have to have a job that paid over 200k if all I got was a W-2. A shrewd business owner making 134k a year vs an employee making 134k a year will end up losing to the small business owner every time unless they just don't know any better and letting H&R block messed them up.
@@crispyasfuck2856 oof yeah don’t be a line cook. Go work maintenance and make 18-25hr. I love food and I’m sorry food service doesn’t pay better but don’t subject yourself to poverty just because you like working in a kitchen. It’s not worth it my man.
Man people are so negative lol. He works whenever he wants, for however long he wants. There are so many benefits to this. More importantly, he is providing valuable insight on how people who may need money can make it. There’s a dude i know that does all the delivery apps and he apparently pulled 140k a year. He worked like the whole day though
The problem is people like you who think people are being negative when they're being realistic. People like you are getting bent over by Doordash instead of, as you say, "being negative".
@bertooo1358 look, i dont do it myself but I appreciate that if everything fails in my life, I at least have the means to make money even if it involves "slaving" behind the wheel. This wasn't an option our parents or grandparents had
@@bertooo1358Slaving away… driving around listening to music, making phone calls, picking his own hours, and making 6 figures a year 😂 Self employed people can set up a sep retirement account and contribute 20% of their income pre-tax. If the dudes friend making $140k was smart, he’d be socking away $28k a year into his sep and not paying tax on it, then deducting his miles and only paying tax on about half his income. If someone did this from 18-23 instead of college, they’d have over $160k saved up. If they let it sit in their retirement account earning 10% a year they would have $10 million waiting for them… without having invested an additional penny after for the rest of their working life. Slaving away? Sure bud. Cause you know all those slaves who retired decamillionaires 😂😂😂 As for his car depreciating. Dude. It’s a car. They depreciate. He’ll be driving whatever tf he wants in a few years if he’s smart. You’ll still be broke and making racist comments about slaves in UA-cam video comments. Go do something productive.
I typically average about 30hr driving Uber without tips, tips are nice but I never really expect them I always provide great customer service. I’ll call it a day once Iv made $200. Will do about 200 miles per day. I use both Uber and Lyft sometimes Lyft has better promotions for money
He said he would stop delivering at some point don’t remember if it would have been due to just choosing to stop or the car, either way burnout could be the cause and there’s always the fact that after taxes these numbers don’t look pretty
That’s what I was thinking. And they just bumped it up to 60 cents a mile or so. It just reduces the gross you have to pay taxes on but doesn’t lower the taxes on the 20k as a whole. Just wanted to clarify that. In the beginning, I thought if I had enough write offs, I could forego taxes, but nope. lol still taxes.
I’m currently in the burnout phase of trying to make Doordash work for me. It’s been 2 years and I am making maybe 40 dollars in a night. That’s nothing. The saturation has sapped the joy out of delivery. I should be making 150-$200 in a given night. The issue is that going to the city is like su*cide because of the fact that there’s nowhere to park in Boston, and deliveries will often be sent somewhere you don’t expect, and you’re competing with probably a hundred other drivers on any given night.
This is pretty good $$ for a delivery gig. My hubby drives an 18 wheeler with the high cost of diesel, trucking expenses and low paying loads this guy has made more then my husband has in the last 100 days! And this guy gets to go home everyday. Mines spends days away from home at a time in order to make a decent living.
Great info breakdown. Goes to show if you have goals and consistency anything can be done. If you did this for a 6-month to 2 yrs you life would change. Remember to be intentional folks with everything you do. And it starts with the small things.
Who the hell wants to work 60 hours a week, working every day to make only $200 a day with zero benefits? It is exhausting. I do this full-time & even after 35 hours a week I'm spent. I'm just lucky that I live in a really great market. There is no promotion or sick leave, no paid vacation.
@@sweetboo1022 keep crying “working” 35 hours driving and delivering food is exhausting to u when most ppl work a minimum of 40 hours and some doing hard labor
You all assumed that delivering food is the end and I don’t think anyone with their right mind sees delivering food with these apps as an end. But rather, it’s a good stepping stone.
I just started doordashing after losing my job in an unfair situation. I am still on the fence about doing it short term while i look for a new job, but after seeing what I’ve made on good days and hearing about drivers that have been doing it for years as a primary source of income, I want to stick it out a little longer to see how well it actually does. I just subbed for more tips, keep it up and thank you!!
I do uber eats,roadies,doordash and instacart full time single mom paying my own bills been doing this for 3 yrs life is good can come and go as needed 🎉
Get yo brakes checked, and even though you get the oil changed i suggest checking/toping off fluids weekly to avoid keep the small stuff from getting big.
Those are pretty accurate numbers and I can relate 👍😊. I don’t accept offers below $8 dlls and it has to meet the 2/mile ratio criteria. I also work on 11 different platforms. I spent about $1500 last year in repairs and maintenance but I haven’t done anything major so far this year other than oil changes. I don’t mind spending in my car as I know the more I spend on it the less taxes I’ll pay 😂, miles also help a lot! 👍 I have an indestructible Japanese Nissan Versa, $35 dlls of gas yields $400 profit. I mean, if that’s not amazing I don’t know what is 😁👍
Not really, lot more goes into expenses than gas and oil changes when you drive your car 60+ hours a week. Maybe not after 100 days but you’re going to end up spending a lot.
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Not only will you have to pay taxes on the earnings, meaning those are gross and not net earnings, but yes as you also said, maintaining the vehicle shouldn't be overlooked, and 13k miles is well into a set of tires. The constant start and shut off will take its toll on your starter/flywheel. Fluids may run hotter on particularly busy days. Also, if you report that you're doing doordash/uber eats to your insurance (which you are supposed to do when using your vehicle for commercial purposes), your insurance costs will rise. There's a lot of factors that will make this side gig pretty meh. The lack of rights is another thing to consider. You're not considered an employee, but a 1099 contractor, meaning you work for yourself, and the company uses your services, which strips you of many rights W2 employees get.
On the point of insurance, that's not always the case. Where I am, my insurance covers Uber Eats without changing my payments. It's not ideal because Uber Eats was late to my area while other apps had already established themselves, and while I've considered using the other apps uninsured, it's just not worth it in the event that something does happen. My next best option is to commute to an area with higher Uber Eats usage, but that area is a hell hole, I don't even like driving there in the first place. But yes, some insurance companies will cover certain services, so check with them first. Getting commercial insurance would kill anyone's interest in delivery jobs. 💀
@@AndyZULUL I did it for years. It is a huge issue. I put 35K a year on my car. Not even counting maintenance you have to buy new cars a lot with that kind of miles. About twice as often compared to not driving for a living.
One thing not taken into account is the mileage till the vehicle is inoperable. Vehicles only have a certain amount of miles till they stop working. So that means you will need to buy a new car or have an engine rebuild sooner
My car has 315k miles. Heads were resurfaced at 300k miles. Only paid $700 I got hooked up. Normally though it would run you 1,200 still not expensive.
@@cpt.fignuts That’s everything… machine shop charge $250-350 depending on what is needed. Luckily it’s a 4 cylinder and a Toyota so it isn’t expensive. If your doing a full rebuild and it’s a v8 like a Chevy it gets expensive.
@@Aku112811 the return for being a food delivery driver right now is negative in the long run. It's meant for kids, elderly, disabled. People that can't do able bodied jobs. It's not designed to be a career for a normal adult. At the end of the day cars only have a certain amount of mileage on them and people are using their only vehicle to put those hard miles on. So yeah you got some head work done but that doesn't mean you're in the clear for another 300k. Just means a different part is going to break down soon
@@cpt.fignuts Yeah I would say so if your not able to repair your own cars or know people that can. I also flip cars on the side. I have currently two for sale… If I get my Camry to 400k without it needing anything it’s fine. In the end of the day I’ll eventually upgrade to a hybrid. Used as in paid for in cash or just buy it brand new. I know people that do this full time like myself and are doing just fine. I’m in California so we have prop 22, your guaranteed %120 of county’s mini wage plus 30 cents a mile. In San fransico min wage is 16.99 currently going to 18.07 (in July) .Where I live it’s 15.50, some parts of los angels it’s more. It is very lucrative and you do have to be able bodied to do the job. Grocery orders are heavy and a lot of customers are disabled.
I've been wondering about tertiary expenses like phone service and food, would you like to go into more detail about the expenses that you wouldn't expect to be work related that are?
I’ve seen people harping on taxes, but we all have to pay taxes. That seems like a good deal to me. At least you don’t have a grumbly boss giving you grief like some of us….
Spending hour of your life for $9.50 = GOOD Spending money on gas & wear & gear to make $25 in addition IRS mileage write off = getting ripped off. A car is a tool that can be replaced.
Car depreciation is a huge factor. New tires and brakes are another major factor as that can easily be an added 2k to annual expenses. It’s really easy to find yourself completely upside down on your car loan after a year plus the expenses listed above and regular mileage related maintenance.
The average cost of driving a vehicle per mile is $0.58/mi. Since you drove 13,600, your costs have been about $7,888 in gas/maintenance in the long run that it will take you to fix the car. Obviously, you don’t always need maintenance, but there is an equation for what it will cost in the long run. Anyway, so $20,000 - $7,888 = $12,112. That doesn’t account for taxes that you’ll pay. *Note: Average miles/gallon (all vehicles… yours could be lower or higher) is 21.8 mi/gallon. If you drove 13,600/21.8, that’s approximately 624 gallons of gas. Average gas price per gallon (2022) was $4.11. 624 x 4.11 = $2,564. That should be out of the $7,888 costs to drive your car 13,600 miles. Basically what I’m getting at is $7,888 - $2,564 = $5,324 is the expected maintenance costs. If you spent $180 on changing your oil, you’re down to $5,144 that you should be setting aside for other maintenance costs. It will catch up to you, when you least expect it. And then you will be on the hook for big maintenance.
Here in canada, you're allowed to write off $0.52/km ($0.83/mile) as car expenses. So, unless anyone thinks the government is generous and letting us write off *more* than it'll likely cost, then the expected costs on 13,600 miles is about $11300 - more than half of the $20k... more than half of the $20/hr. When you work these delivery gig jobs, your basically grinding away your car for cash in your pocket now.
Mileage can be deducted on taxes but you need to keep a log of all the odometer readings for it. Should you be audited and not have it you can get fined. Mileage on tax forms is a big item that can flag you for an audit
Can you make a video for how much you make in a week and the a total in a month and subtract that times your expenses and see how much you make in total , also how much do you have left after taxes , also I’m just wondering but do the months have different amounts because say you work on the holidays or the summer or in winter
Would love to see what the long term wear and tear on the car is. I have always wondered if wear and tear on the car can outweigh the profit. I can imagine people going thru tires and brakes like crazy amd those are jusy regular things to replace
@@COCOCHEYENNE01actually you can because mileage and expenses are both an itemized deduction. You cannot take a standard deduction (12850$) and itemized deduction you have to pick
He would make 60k- 20% tax = $48k - 25k for new car= $23,000 for the year. 60hrs per week at 52 weeks ÷ $23,000 profit= $7/hr. So all that hustling just to make below minimum wagem
Actually doing a quick calculation factoring in a $15 minimum wage this is economically profitable (keep in mind that’s different than accounting profit)
If I ever try to work on that I would go all out on these idea. - Have a 2 people Sistem. - look for a drone that can carry a lot of weight and can travel far distances I'm thinking something that uses mobile internet to receive the signal. - 1 person will go with the drone to the restaurant and attach the load and drive it to the destination were the other person will be waiting to take it with the customer already there, that should make it extremely fast. - after that just go for the next order, if the person that just got the drone is closer to the store then they change roles, he/she goes to the store while the other goes to the place were the client is. - they either have cars, motorcycles or e bikes to travel, one of them ideally the drone driver will have batteries or a way to charge the drone. That or make it a big scale a rent a small place in the middle of the city and have a 3rd person that will replace the batteries of all the drones that land there and sends a message to the pilot when the drone is ready to go
I’ve watched all your shorts and I have a couple questions - Do you use both apps at the same time to stack orders? Do you sit and wait for orders or do you patrol and find them? Does your state adjust earnings to meet a certain minimum criteria?
Don't forget insurance, which will also be more than normal because of using it for work. Tires and depreciation etc. should also be accounted for. You dybe able to deduct some expenses on the taxes, though
61 hours a week… I work 30 hours a week doing Instacart and make the same money on a weekly basis, time to put food delivery in the past and try out grocery delivery!
Every market is different. IC in my area (400k population) is absolutely garbage. But dd is pretty good. And some people don't like the communication you have to do with IC
Need to consider depreciation of the vehicle too. 13,500 miles is what a typical vehicle is driven in an entire year, so I imagine that in that 3 month period the value of the car has dipped 1-10% (depending on how new the car is). That and considering the lack of benefits, no OT for the additional 20 hours you’re doing above 40, + the typical car expenditures I think this job is only worth it if you need extra money or want to do it as a side hustle in either a old car or motorcycle.
The taxes will always get people on this job set aside an amount each month for taxes even if you have good tracking on your mileage, just in case. You don't get a W-2 from doordash or ubereats You get a 1099, which you have to file yourself, so just be wary and prepare yourself
though your car is a bit older and may not fall much in value I would say that its a huge factor for many. anyone looking to get into this you should heavily note the depreciation that will incur on your vehicle, a newer and/or more valuable car can throw you negative on this alone.
Uber eats is no longer giving refunds for paid items never received. They instead will now gaslight you and insist you did receive your full order and reject the request for a refund. This could impact tips for drivers.
I made almost $50k last year just from UberEats. After all of my tax deductions like driving almost 50k miles I paid in $0 in taxes. Its very much possible to thrive even without an ideal vehicle.
Depends on what the work is. I could do 90 easily driving. 60 on the factory floor can be okay depending on where I'm stationed, but where I am currently I have to be very careful going over 50. Even at 50 my back is pretty fucked most of the time.
This is the kind of information ppl need when they are wondering about starting this kind of job. Great work I love
Exactly my thought , in my country I haven't been able to find something like this
@@joelperezcontreras4735 make one to improve your country. Start small in your local area advertising on social media.
Incomplete information? That's exactly the type of information people don't need
@@joelperezcontreras4735 Be the first to create it. You could literally be rich. Just need some programmers and possible licensing. If you provide delivery where there is none, you’ll be rich.
No No not at all The guys put in miles on the car the guys put in miles on a tires tires going to have to get replaced car is going to have to get replaced and he's completely ignoring the cost of the tires and the cost of the car this is actually useless information it's actually bad information since people like you were thinking oh this is great this is what people need to figure out if it's worth doing No it's not you need to afford the car every mile you drive in that car it's costing you money not in fuel in longevity of the vehicle I paid for my car $400 for a set of tires I've driven probably 30,000 miles on those tires That's $200 just because I didn't buy tires yet doesn't mean that $200 ain't there I bought my car with $170,000 mi on it two years ago it has 207,000 now do I just again not factor in the fact that this car is not going to last till 43 billion miles useless information posted here small brain information
When you factor in the fact that you're working 20 hours of OT, that hourly wage drops considerably.
Yeah and no benefits
I wonder if he included taxes.
And the fact that the pay is completely dependent on where you are working.
@@pugness That's the biggest thing too...no benefits. But, it's way better than nothing. But that car wear is gonna catch up to him.
Was just thinking this lmao. I work 60 hours a week and make base 22 an hour but because of how much OT I get on a regular basis it’s closer to 28 an hour. Not saying it’s not a bad grind but it’s definitely not a long term thing. I think that’s why most people use it as a second job for the extra cash
That Toyota Corolla it’s eternal ! I have the same model 2007, 15 years and zero faults/problems in the bad streets of northern Mexico…
Add the Honda civic into that mix. 380k on my last own
I swear by Toyota Corollas. My first car in 2003 was an 87 Toyota Corolla. I ramped a 4 ft pile of dried asphalt (on accident-long story) and that damn thing still went 80 down the freeway and ran for many years after. It was still running at 320K miles when I finally got rid of it.
How's your medical coverage paid ? Did you put any money toward retirement ? This is a part time job at best. Should not be used as a regular job in my opinion
@@BIGDAWGBITE18but what if you’re making as much as you would working somewhere else? You just don’t like the idea of it, I’m sure you’re probably older.
That $20/hr turned into $14/hr real quick after taxes.
Not bad
@@jacobmaz8157 Have you tried it? The amount of deductions you can take will almost certainly be in your favor. I have written off new cars and after all was done, I even got some money back. I only do Uber and make 9 to 12k a month. When I invest money in my business, that offsets my tax burden. It's not a bad deal when you can make 134k a year and still get 600 dollars back in taxes because my tax burden was actually positive. So I legally didn't have to pay a dime in taxes, The feds paid me. And I have a nice fleet of cars that I service myself to save even more. Where if I was an employee, In order to see 134k a year, I would have to have a job that paid over 200k if all I got was a W-2. A shrewd business owner making 134k a year vs an employee making 134k a year will end up losing to the small business owner every time unless they just don't know any better and letting H&R block messed them up.
@@jacobmaz8157 not very good either. Even for a side hustle.
@Thomas beats getting paid 10 an hour after taxes to be a line cook
@@crispyasfuck2856 oof yeah don’t be a line cook. Go work maintenance and make 18-25hr. I love food and I’m sorry food service doesn’t pay better but don’t subject yourself to poverty just because you like working in a kitchen. It’s not worth it my man.
Man people are so negative lol. He works whenever he wants, for however long he wants. There are so many benefits to this. More importantly, he is providing valuable insight on how people who may need money can make it. There’s a dude i know that does all the delivery apps and he apparently pulled 140k a year. He worked like the whole day though
The problem is people like you who think people are being negative when they're being realistic. People like you are getting bent over by Doordash instead of, as you say, "being negative".
@@threezysworld8089 i do not work in this field. Which part of what I said is unrealistic?
He is slaving away and his car is depreciating quickly you act as if there wasn’t a ton of negatives to this ubereats crap
@bertooo1358 look, i dont do it myself but I appreciate that if everything fails in my life, I at least have the means to make money even if it involves "slaving" behind the wheel. This wasn't an option our parents or grandparents had
@@bertooo1358Slaving away… driving around listening to music, making phone calls, picking his own hours, and making 6 figures a year 😂
Self employed people can set up a sep retirement account and contribute 20% of their income pre-tax. If the dudes friend making $140k was smart, he’d be socking away $28k a year into his sep and not paying tax on it, then deducting his miles and only paying tax on about half his income.
If someone did this from 18-23 instead of college, they’d have over $160k saved up. If they let it sit in their retirement account earning 10% a year they would have $10 million waiting for them… without having invested an additional penny after for the rest of their working life.
Slaving away? Sure bud. Cause you know all those slaves who retired decamillionaires 😂😂😂
As for his car depreciating. Dude. It’s a car. They depreciate. He’ll be driving whatever tf he wants in a few years if he’s smart. You’ll still be broke and making racist comments about slaves in UA-cam video comments.
Go do something productive.
My mans came out with hella fire videos then disappeared from existence
I typically average about 30hr driving Uber without tips, tips are nice but I never really expect them I always provide great customer service. I’ll call it a day once Iv made $200. Will do about 200 miles per day. I use both Uber and Lyft sometimes Lyft has better promotions for money
He swallowed a bullet 😂😂
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He said he would stop delivering at some point don’t remember if it would have been due to just choosing to stop or the car, either way burnout could be the cause and there’s always the fact that after taxes these numbers don’t look pretty
as long as I don’t have a boss I’m cool
Wit it
being able to do delivery driving is a luxury not everybody can do it some people have bad records, so yes in other words -You are the boss
13k miles on 17k made is a huge tax cut
That’s what I was thinking. And they just bumped it up to 60 cents a mile or so. It just reduces the gross you have to pay taxes on but doesn’t lower the taxes on the 20k as a whole. Just wanted to clarify that.
In the beginning, I thought if I had enough write offs, I could forego taxes, but nope. lol still taxes.
Yes it’s a huge deduction, it’s a loop to go through to get them written off but it increases profit
@@mjonesftwtx 65.5 cents per mile as of February. I believe they have increased it since then as well. Probably about 66-67 cents per mile now.
I’m currently in the burnout phase of trying to make Doordash work for me. It’s been 2 years and I am making maybe 40 dollars in a night. That’s nothing. The saturation has sapped the joy out of delivery. I should be making 150-$200 in a given night. The issue is that going to the city is like su*cide because of the fact that there’s nowhere to park in Boston, and deliveries will often be sent somewhere you don’t expect, and you’re competing with probably a hundred other drivers on any given night.
This is pretty good $$ for a delivery gig. My hubby drives an 18 wheeler with the high cost of diesel, trucking expenses and low paying loads this guy has made more then my husband has in the last 100 days! And this guy gets to go home everyday. Mines spends days away from home at a time in order to make a decent living.
Thanks for the breakdown. Congrats again on smashing your goal & good luck on your next adventure!
Great info breakdown. Goes to show if you have goals and consistency anything can be done. If you did this for a 6-month to 2 yrs you life would change. Remember to be intentional folks with everything you do. And it starts with the small things.
How would it change? He'd have to keep working forever
Who the hell wants to work 60 hours a week, working every day to make only $200 a day with zero benefits? It is exhausting. I do this full-time & even after 35 hours a week I'm spent. I'm just lucky that I live in a really great market. There is no promotion or sick leave, no paid vacation.
@@sweetboo1022 keep crying “working” 35 hours driving and delivering food is exhausting to u when most ppl work a minimum of 40 hours and some doing hard labor
@@saintx1 calm down champ. 🤣🤣
You all assumed that delivering food is the end and I don’t think anyone with their right mind sees delivering food with these apps as an end. But rather, it’s a good stepping stone.
Keep going like this
You're supposed to do oil change, engine air filter,cabin air filter, rotations within that timespand
Takes a person with a working brain and some common sense 25 minutes at most to rotate their own tires doesn’t cost anything at all
All that stuff is cheap .
says the guy who’s car has the check engine light on
I think having one of the most reliable cars ever made also helps keep expanses down too
What is the car?
@@ReallyWinning mid 2000s Toyota Corolla
@@JDMSwervo2001 thank you very much
Lol imagine thinking 13k miles is so strenuous that any other vehicle will crap out on you.
@cateatfood6634 Lol imagine moaning and bitching over a UA-cam comment
I just started doordashing after losing my job in an unfair situation. I am still on the fence about doing it short term while i look for a new job, but after seeing what I’ve made on good days and hearing about drivers that have been doing it for years as a primary source of income, I want to stick it out a little longer to see how well it actually does. I just subbed for more tips, keep it up and thank you!!
I do uber eats,roadies,doordash and instacart full time single mom paying my own bills been doing this for 3 yrs life is good can come and go as needed 🎉
Get yo brakes checked, and even though you get the oil changed i suggest checking/toping off fluids weekly to avoid keep the small stuff from getting big.
Thanks for sharing your experience, especially for including all the details
Those are pretty accurate numbers and I can relate 👍😊. I don’t accept offers below $8 dlls and it has to meet the 2/mile ratio criteria. I also work on 11 different platforms. I spent about $1500 last year in repairs and maintenance but I haven’t done anything major so far this year other than oil changes. I don’t mind spending in my car as I know the more I spend on it the less taxes I’ll pay 😂, miles also help a lot! 👍
I have an indestructible Japanese Nissan Versa, $35 dlls of gas yields $400 profit. I mean, if that’s not amazing I don’t know what is 😁👍
What are the other apps you use?
11?!? I thought I was crazy with my 7 apps!!
Nissan versa… indestructible… lol
Bless you for taking the time to document the journey for us all to benefit from the data
Great break down on expenses
Not really, lot more goes into expenses than gas and oil changes when you drive your car 60+ hours a week. Maybe not after 100 days but you’re going to end up spending a lot.
Thank goodness you brought this up! Truly, investing has changed my perspective on how one can succeed in life; working multiple jobs isn't the optimal way to attain financial freedom and unfortunately, we discover this later in life. Currently earn as much as 10 grand weekly and this has improved my financial life. Great piece!
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Not only will you have to pay taxes on the earnings, meaning those are gross and not net earnings, but yes as you also said, maintaining the vehicle shouldn't be overlooked, and 13k miles is well into a set of tires. The constant start and shut off will take its toll on your starter/flywheel. Fluids may run hotter on particularly busy days. Also, if you report that you're doing doordash/uber eats to your insurance (which you are supposed to do when using your vehicle for commercial purposes), your insurance costs will rise. There's a lot of factors that will make this side gig pretty meh. The lack of rights is another thing to consider. You're not considered an employee, but a 1099 contractor, meaning you work for yourself, and the company uses your services, which strips you of many rights W2 employees get.
On the point of insurance, that's not always the case. Where I am, my insurance covers Uber Eats without changing my payments. It's not ideal because Uber Eats was late to my area while other apps had already established themselves, and while I've considered using the other apps uninsured, it's just not worth it in the event that something does happen. My next best option is to commute to an area with higher Uber Eats usage, but that area is a hell hole, I don't even like driving there in the first place. But yes, some insurance companies will cover certain services, so check with them first. Getting commercial insurance would kill anyone's interest in delivery jobs. 💀
You did it ! Congrats !!! 🎈
You forgot to calculate car depreciation for all the driving (miles)
The car is an 03 corolla. Relax lol
i like how anyone that has never done this worries about depreciation of the car. not an issue
Bruh😂😂😂😂💀💀🤓
@@AndyZULUL he's talking about a tax reduction (depreciating an asset)
@@AndyZULUL I did it for years. It is a huge issue. I put 35K a year on my car. Not even counting maintenance you have to buy new cars a lot with that kind of miles. About twice as often compared to not driving for a living.
One thing not taken into account is the mileage till the vehicle is inoperable. Vehicles only have a certain amount of miles till they stop working. So that means you will need to buy a new car or have an engine rebuild sooner
My car has 315k miles. Heads were resurfaced at 300k miles. Only paid $700 I got hooked up. Normally though it would run you 1,200 still not expensive.
@@Aku112811 1200 for one head and that's just for labor
@@cpt.fignuts That’s everything… machine shop charge $250-350 depending on what is needed. Luckily it’s a 4 cylinder and a Toyota so it isn’t expensive. If your doing a full rebuild and it’s a v8 like a Chevy it gets expensive.
@@Aku112811 the return for being a food delivery driver right now is negative in the long run. It's meant for kids, elderly, disabled. People that can't do able bodied jobs. It's not designed to be a career for a normal adult. At the end of the day cars only have a certain amount of mileage on them and people are using their only vehicle to put those hard miles on. So yeah you got some head work done but that doesn't mean you're in the clear for another 300k. Just means a different part is going to break down soon
@@cpt.fignuts Yeah I would say so if your not able to repair your own cars or know people that can. I also flip cars on the side. I have currently two for sale… If I get my Camry to 400k without it needing anything it’s fine. In the end of the day I’ll eventually upgrade to a hybrid. Used as in paid for in cash or just buy it brand new. I know people that do this full time like myself and are doing just fine. I’m in California so we have prop 22, your guaranteed %120 of county’s mini wage plus 30 cents a mile. In San fransico min wage is 16.99 currently going to 18.07 (in July) .Where I live it’s 15.50, some parts of los angels it’s more. It is very lucrative and you do have to be able bodied to do the job. Grocery orders are heavy and a lot of customers are disabled.
Toyota Corolla is the key
I've been wondering about tertiary expenses like phone service and food, would you like to go into more detail about the expenses that you wouldn't expect to be work related that are?
you can fill all those expenses on tax file and they deduct the amount of tax you have to pay, by a lot believe it or not.
Your very helpful and ur very organized congrats my guy
I’ve seen people harping on taxes, but we all have to pay taxes. That seems like a good deal to me. At least you don’t have a grumbly boss giving you grief like some of us….
I claim so many miles that it eradicates 90% of my taxes
Spending hour of your life for $9.50 = GOOD
Spending money on gas & wear & gear to make $25 in addition IRS mileage write off = getting ripped off.
A car is a tool that can be replaced.
@@FlexSZN23 Stanis you are a terrible king.
There are a lot of amazing bosses.
@@Biscuitman3000 doubt it
It’s all about the distance we drive, you made more money than miles and that is amazing, your car is also extremely good on gas
Out of every week you worked which week you earned the most? In that week in which you earned the most, what was the best paying order you received?
Car depreciation is a huge factor. New tires and brakes are another major factor as that can easily be an added 2k to annual expenses. It’s really easy to find yourself completely upside down on your car loan after a year plus the expenses listed above and regular mileage related maintenance.
Free oil changes?
The average cost of driving a vehicle per mile is $0.58/mi. Since you drove 13,600, your costs have been about $7,888 in gas/maintenance in the long run that it will take you to fix the car. Obviously, you don’t always need maintenance, but there is an equation for what it will cost in the long run. Anyway, so $20,000 - $7,888 = $12,112. That doesn’t account for taxes that you’ll pay. *Note: Average miles/gallon (all vehicles… yours could be lower or higher) is 21.8 mi/gallon. If you drove 13,600/21.8, that’s approximately 624 gallons of gas. Average gas price per gallon (2022) was $4.11. 624 x 4.11 = $2,564.
That should be out of the $7,888 costs to drive your car 13,600 miles. Basically what I’m getting at is $7,888 - $2,564 = $5,324 is the expected maintenance costs. If you spent $180 on changing your oil, you’re down to $5,144 that you should be setting aside for other maintenance costs. It will catch up to you, when you least expect it. And then you will be on the hook for big maintenance.
Here in canada, you're allowed to write off $0.52/km ($0.83/mile) as car expenses.
So, unless anyone thinks the government is generous and letting us write off *more* than it'll likely cost, then the expected costs on 13,600 miles is about $11300 - more than half of the $20k... more than half of the $20/hr.
When you work these delivery gig jobs, your basically grinding away your car for cash in your pocket now.
Exactly. In the USA it's 67 cents per mile write off so yeah $9k net is more like it
As a retired Boy Scout, 30 years, no need to thank me for my service, that’s a boat.
Ok
Just keep in mind that deductions are usually capped so if you earn a huge amount, maximum deduction potential only goes so far.
Don’t forget he can deduct cell phone and mileage or expense on car, things most can’t deduct if working at target 🎯 for the same wage.
Mileage can be deducted on taxes but you need to keep a log of all the odometer readings for it. Should you be audited and not have it you can get fined. Mileage on tax forms is a big item that can flag you for an audit
You mean just log the miles you drive while delivering?
2k on gas for 3 months
man
My gas is 700 😅 per month
Definitely keep records/receipts for All deductibles
Can you make a video for how much you make in a week and the a total in a month and subtract that times your expenses and see how much you make in total , also how much do you have left after taxes , also I’m just wondering but do the months have different amounts because say you work on the holidays or the summer or in winter
Would love to see what the long term wear and tear on the car is. I have always wondered if wear and tear on the car can outweigh the profit. I can imagine people going thru tires and brakes like crazy amd those are jusy regular things to replace
Good Information ! There can be some big Variables when using your own car(s), not mentioned. BTW, TIPS ??
My opinion is that you really have a good car!! 😂
Dont forget the tax deduction per mile. That helps at tax time.
No. You CAN NOT deduct expenses and mileage. You either claim expenses OR mileage, not both
@@COCOCHEYENNE01actually you can because mileage and expenses are both an itemized deduction. You cannot take a standard deduction (12850$) and itemized deduction you have to pick
I'm just going to ignore the maintenance experience because I haven't been hit with the bill and don't understand depreciation and wear.
Awesome stuff man
Man 22 bucks a day for 136 miles, I spend 20 bucks on a 20 min drive to work 15 of those minutes is highway 😂
I think you should keep going to see how much you can make until u have to get another car
I would love to watch that!
I'll sub to see that one.
He would make 60k- 20% tax = $48k - 25k for new car= $23,000 for the year. 60hrs per week at 52 weeks ÷ $23,000 profit= $7/hr. So all that hustling just to make below minimum wagem
@@COCOCHEYENNE01 you got 0 idea wt u talking about if ur paying 20% for taxes you doing something completely wrong
@@COCOCHEYENNE01dude clearly isn't interested in a new car to replace his with. So more like $7,000 for a "new" car
Thx for the transparency to another 17k profit!!
Lets goooooooo im fcking happy for u brother ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Also with the high gas prices and the tipping , do you get lots of tips or do they sometimes have chance of getting a tip
Great series, where do we go from here?
Also, free oil changes... How?
Hey there you coming back again? Loved the seris
How do you keep track on your miles? Do you wright it down each time or does it show you in the app?
$200/day for 100 days straight
Not bad
Until the government butts in and takes their part
Thank you for the info it is helpful😊😊😊
Actually doing a quick calculation factoring in a $15 minimum wage this is economically profitable (keep in mind that’s different than accounting profit)
If I ever try to work on that I would go all out on these idea.
- Have a 2 people Sistem.
- look for a drone that can carry a lot of weight and can travel far distances I'm thinking something that uses mobile internet to receive the signal.
- 1 person will go with the drone to the restaurant and attach the load and drive it to the destination were the other person will be waiting to take it with the customer already there, that should make it extremely fast.
- after that just go for the next order, if the person that just got the drone is closer to the store then they change roles, he/she goes to the store while the other goes to the place were the client is.
- they either have cars, motorcycles or e bikes to travel, one of them ideally the drone driver will have batteries or a way to charge the drone.
That or make it a big scale a rent a small place in the middle of the city and have a 3rd person that will replace the batteries of all the drones that land there and sends a message to the pilot when the drone is ready to go
I’ve watched all your shorts and I have a couple questions - Do you use both apps at the same time to stack orders?
Do you sit and wait for orders or do you patrol and find them?
Does your state adjust earnings to meet a certain minimum criteria?
Which car is that? Which app do you use to track deductions?
Don't forget insurance, which will also be more than normal because of using it for work. Tires and depreciation etc. should also be accounted for.
You dybe able to deduct some expenses on the taxes, though
Bro lucky with that gas. I did it and made like $200 in a day but spent $80 on gas (not including the city I had to travel back from) 😢
61 hours a week… I work 30 hours a week doing Instacart and make the same money on a weekly basis, time to put food delivery in the past and try out grocery delivery!
Every market is different. IC in my area (400k population) is absolutely garbage. But dd is pretty good. And some people don't like the communication you have to do with IC
Sucks, still in a wait list for instacart… and Grubhub. All I have is doordash. Got deactivated on ubereats for stupid reasons.
Or combine them all
I agree I do spark and make the same with less miles
I need more on the free oil changes!
Brooooooo. This morning I made a hundred bucks in a hour and a half here in portland from 11.30 to 12.30
Awesome info. Thank you
I lived and did this in that market and that sounds about right
Damn you make that in more than 3 months, I was making that a month before the drop off, that's crazy
How do you get free oil change?
*"Oh, you'll have repairs, believe me (muah hahahaaa),* with those miles... in the future."
- Your car's future AI upgrade, probably.
Need to consider depreciation of the vehicle too. 13,500 miles is what a typical vehicle is driven in an entire year, so I imagine that in that 3 month period the value of the car has dipped 1-10% (depending on how new the car is). That and considering the lack of benefits, no OT for the additional 20 hours you’re doing above 40, + the typical car expenditures I think this job is only worth it if you need extra money or want to do it as a side hustle in either a old car or motorcycle.
....did you see his car? That car has hit the max of depreciation 😂
On one of your videos you mentioned the need for critical thinking at times. Interesting topic. Could you give some examples?
Enjoy your channel!
The taxes will always get people on this job set aside an amount each month for taxes even if you have good tracking on your mileage, just in case. You don't get a W-2 from doordash or ubereats You get a 1099, which you have to file yourself, so just be wary and prepare yourself
$20 hr is not bad… I worked for $7-9 from the age of 15 to 21….
Do you knock when you leave the food or just leave it at the door?
What he doesn’t mention is the city and state he is doing this in. Location matter a lot.
Did you depreciate your vehicle for all those miles
One more thing, even if your car did breakdown, that beater ain’t worth a dollar😂😭
How do you get free oil changes?
How do you track miles? What's your preferred app?
Great breakdown, great content
Car insurance should be on expenses i think
No, you have to pay insurance regardless. It isn’t a gig expense.
@@reseyworld not only insurance, but also car price. Avg car lasts for 250000 miles. So 25k$/250k = 1$ per 10 miles.
@@buryato_banderovets Fewer than 1 percent of cars reach 250,000 miles.
@@ebaymotorhomes wow... You're right.
@@buryato_banderovets do you include that math for commuting to a regular job?
can u track your miles with Lyft also or just food delivery?
though your car is a bit older and may not fall much in value I would say that its a huge factor for many. anyone looking to get into this you should heavily note the depreciation that will incur on your vehicle, a newer and/or more valuable car can throw you negative on this alone.
What phone do you use to do Doordash and Uber eats?
Did you track your depreciation on the vehicle?
Fellow Tan 2007 Honda Accord driver, mighty fine beast ya got there.
Mans min-maxed Uber eats!
How do you track your miles?
I do it part time. Only Friday and Saturday evenings, occasionally for 3 or 4 hours and I make 100 bucks each evening.
That's how I do it couple hours a day I'm good with 50dollar a day
Uber eats is no longer giving refunds for paid items never received. They instead will now gaslight you and insist you did receive your full order and reject the request for a refund. This could impact tips for drivers.
I made almost $50k last year just from UberEats. After all of my tax deductions like driving almost 50k miles I paid in $0 in taxes. Its very much possible to thrive even without an ideal vehicle.
What about car insurance? Is it more expensive if you use your car for deliveries?
That base is in pipedreams here in Canada 😅
Yo how do I get better orders, higher paying ones? Any tips, I’ve been doing uber for around 6 weeks and it’s been alright. Is doordash better?
Oof I don’t know if I’m into that 60 hour work week ha
Depends on what the work is. I could do 90 easily driving.
60 on the factory floor can be okay depending on where I'm stationed, but where I am currently I have to be very careful going over 50. Even at 50 my back is pretty fucked most of the time.
Assume gas is $3.50/gal, $22 of gas is about 6.3 gal, 136 mi/6.3 gal is about 21.5 mpg
If gas is $3.00/gal, it’s about 18.5 mpg
One thing these gig workers don't tell you is that they make money off of you when you use their referral code