Does this election campaign need to be a bit more dirty? | The News Agents
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2024
- Election day is two weeks tomorrow. For some that can't come soon enough.
Today - with the help of former Tory Chairman and ad man Lord Maurice Saatchi we assess the state of the campaign and ask how politicians are communicating with the public, and what the public is saying back.
Is there such a thing as a campaign that's 'too nice'? And is this it?
Later, we have the latest The News Agents/More in Common MRP poll and ask what will happen to the SNP and whether the methodology of how pollsters ask questions has changed?
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The idea that the public wants another 'personalty' is laughable. Starmer being Steady and 'Boring' is exactly the right pitch. A sensible, staid, lawyer, grown-up... perfect.
I agree with you. But not sure that opinion is shared by the majority.
Well said Mr charisma left Downing Street with a roll of gold leaf wallpaper under his arm and a list of broken promises. Plus a fixed pentaly notice. Welcome in Starmer
Sensible, staid, lawyer, grown-up doth butter no parsnips with younger voters though. His roll back on a number of policies that would engage younger voters won't have helped either.
I honestly believe that the Greens will see a big surge due to young voters but not garner more than a few seats due to the FPTP voting system
@@turbokadett To be fair, I don't see Sunak's idea to bring back National Service winning him the youth vote either.
What drives the English to betray the rest of the UK, and themselves at every turn? The news agents are refusing to talk about the truth of the English voter here, this is distraction at best. nothing new either
If I want an 'entertainer' or a 'character' then I'll go to the cinema or the theatre. I want a sensible, pragmatic PM and government. Bring Back Boring!
I very nearly read that last line as being back boris…
@@tombladon8064 the horror of it!
🎵I'm bringin' boring back (yeah)🎵
Get Breakfast Done
Labour can never be relaxed and confident whilst the right wing press and the BBC are at large.
Alert and confident works for me.
Why is it a bad thing Starmer is boring i want a boring pilot if im on a long haul flight not the guy whos exciting and can loop the loop
If richi is going to take credit for 2% inflation. Then, he has to take credit for 11%.
Exactly; he/they can't have it both ways. I hope Labour makes more off this and starts to work it into its rebuttals.
"You must destroy the opposition" to me this captures everything that is wrong with this country.🙄🙄🙄🙄
Exactly. And then the media ask why the public have lost all faith in politics and politicians...
Yeh the most out of touch advice you could possibly give. Also trying to paint cruelty as a virtue during these times especially when they have overseen 14 years of decline is staggering.
Saatchis' perspective of demolishing the opponents argument is just indicative of the state of UK politics right now
Inflation would have come down anyway. The tories could have sat on their hand and inflation would have been the same as it is today. The damage is already done. Prices are higher and they are not coming down. Taxes are higher than they have been in 70 odd years and they still have the gall to say they are going to reduce taxes.
I've never seen any journalist asking Sunak and his chums - "so which measures did you introduce which helped drive down inflation"? Spoiler alert, there are none.
The people that want another 'personality' as PM are just thick. It's so simple. They're on the blue team, that's as far as their understanding of politics goes.
A robust contest of ideas yes, a bumper sticker campaign based on negativity no!!
I think Starmer understands the need to demonstrate that politicians can say what they intend to do, and then deliver what they say. They CAN underpromise and over-deliver. He understands this because he is NOT a career politician!
John you hit the nail on the head with the Starmer-Albanese Australia connection.
For some time I have been saying to my friends more on the left of the Labour Party not to be too worried about the perceived drift of the party rightwards to occupy the centre. My argument has been that Labour has been presenting as little policy definition as possible to make it a small target for the Tories and their supporters in the print media to attack. This was precisely the ALP winning strategy in 2022.
There has been a struggle appearing not to promise things here too, because the Australian Labor Party committed itself to tax changes already legislated for which became clearly unpopular after their win and it took them too long to change as a result.
"My argument has been that Labour has been presenting as little policy definition as possible to make it a small target for the Tories..."
Yep, in Australia it was called Labor's small-target strategy. It worked in 2022, and it'll work in 2024.
As an outlier… I believe Starmer has played his cards just perfectly, and will unleash some wonderful left wing policies over the next few years… glass half full and all that!!
Which left wing policies do you see as wonderful?
@@stephfoxwell4620 just the usual ones, taxing the rich until their pips squeak, and reinvesting heavily into the NHS. Our infrastructure is crumbling, it needs to be paid for… capital gains tax, higher, tiered levels of corporation tax. Rejoining the EU (after a second referendum, which will obviously be in favour of).. plenty more but I’ve just woke up and need my shreddies…
@@stephfoxwell4620 read the manifesto rather than asking ….
@@Gary-le7dz Dr Dolittle has promised to do nothing.
Saatchi's analysis absolutely paints the picture that was wrong with Thatcherism. CRUEL
Also left with no energy, transport or water in public ownership.
@@Deano-vl4bv Let's not forget selling all the council housing. Which only works if you build back up the stocks, but of course the leafy glen Tories are the worst sort of NIMBY, so of course they never did.
And to claim Labour incompetent with the Tories being clearly the most incompetent government in history!
@@WedgeOfSpite Plus the Tories ensured that the majority of the receipts from council house sales went into government coffers so the councils would never have the money to build replacements.
The campaign has dragged on too long. Effectively it began after the fall of Boris - everyone is utterly fatigued and want it to end.
There is not enthusiasm, there is desperation. Anyone who pays attention to politics and who looks around them sees a country in decline. And they know that this has happened under 14 years of Tory government. They also know that this cannot easily be turned round and that the future is uncertain. So there is desperation, not enthusiasm for a change of government.
i'd celebrate if my wages also increased in line with inflation... I just want tactical voting to take hold this time round, Lib Dems to be the main opposition party and then for electoral reform to be raised every week, at least once for the next 4/5 years.
Purely on a message basis, the Tories need to state "Labour Costs".
Could the country be exhausted after the Tories time in office especially the last 5 yrs for ppl to open arms to any opposition despite the need for a change
Im SICK of personality in politics.
Some labour supporters going on about Keir not really a labour man well since 2010"we have had a Tory government 14 years" labour had to change or just more Tory rule. Keir is doing what will put labour in power and he is right on that path.
Labour isn't making promises they can't keep (or many promises at all), because they are being pragmatic. Which is what we need.
Correct. 100% correct.
There is an air of "if you can't beat them, join them" about the approach. UKIP/Brexit/Reform have forced the Conservatives to inch ever further to the political right, and in following them to pick up the voters who drop off along the way, Labour is looking increasingly like how the Conservatives did 15 years ago than the true party of the working class and unions. I know Starmer has made a lot of more socialist proposals as leader, but those are the ones that have dropped away over time and I have a hard time seeing him as real Labour anymore.
Hello from South West Norfolk - hopefully Labour will win.
Think Terry will be a very hard working MP.
Be great to have an MP that I've voted for ,never happened yet.
ONLY YOURSELF TO BLAME WHEN IT GOES PEARSHAPE, KIDS, PENSIONERS, TAX INCREASE, MORE, MORE, MORE IMMIGRANTS. FREE SPEECH GONE. VOTING LABOUR WHAT A BONUS FOR YOU.!! 🥕😂🤣😅😆😁
Great 👍 show thanks 😊
There is no passion in this campaign because people are brow beaten and just hoping their vote makes a difference.
If Liz Truss was to be the Portillo moment - what would be the theme of her future tea time TV documentary career?
Pork - pig farm tours of the world, or cheese tasting parties throughout history?
Emily is the only one that talks sense on Scotland. We know well up here that Scotland will get what England votes for. It’s always been that way. So everyone I know will be voting SNP as Labour will get into Westminster whatever we do.
Sunak going to safe seats 1/ he has less chance of getting mugged by the public over he’s appalling record 2/ tories in marginals probably don’t want him damaging their campaigns or what’s left of them.
John, Albanese was always popular here. Not anymore of course as his government is barely distinguishable from the Morrison one now.
Inflation going down doesn't mean prices are falling. It just means they're rising more slowly than before.
Starmer doesn't need to be super exciting or having people dancing in the street to win a historic majority, as the delta between his approval rating and Sunak's is greater than Blair/Major was in 97. Blair didn't have the star power going in to the 97 GE as we think we remember, and Major wasn't as unpopular as Sunak either.
It wasn't star power he had. It was personality and charisma. You can't buy that
@@empressdoinalot "It wasn't star power he had. It was personality and charisma."
They're the same picture.
@@redlightmax no
When Murdoch buys out the BBC, I'll be very glad I'm as old as I am.
This is a podcast that has nothing to do with the BBC
@@AH-te5gs To be fair - from the comment we can assume this person is elderly. They probably think this is Amazon and they’re buying Milk of Magnesia
Murdoch is older than you.
Murdoch will be in a box soon.
This is from Global Player. Not BBC. You're not paying for this: the advertisers are.
'Wow, it was great, the PM came on TV and told a funny joke and my uncle died two hours later while waiting for an op.'
I don't care whether a PM is a 'character', 'comedian', or 'entertainer'. I want the waiting list to see a GP at my local surgery cut to a couple of days - not nearly seven feckin' weeks.
If a PM can achieve that sort of thing, he can be as boring as he wants to.
Let's get rid of celebrity politics and get back to fixing the country.
Why is UA-cam always behind the podcast? I see a video but realise I've already heard it on Spotify. Every time.
I have seen the idea that Sunak is campaigning in safe seats because they may lose 25k majorities a lot. It could also be that when you put the PM in front of normal people he causes problems for the campaign, it could be that he is being put in front of the most friendly populations so he isn't shown being awkward and tetchy.
Love the analysis of average margin of seats being visited. Really demonstrates where the battles are.
Wipeout to Help Out.
Thanks for posting
How is he still the prime minister when he had dissolved the parliament? 🤔
He ceased to become an MP not prime minister. We always have a prime minister.
I really don't like negative champaign, I just want info on policies to decide on. I've seen enough of personality politics with Johnson and Truss.
North Norfolk... vote Lib dem
Why do you lot always go on about the so-called "personalities" and not the policies? Do you even know what they are? I'd like to see a News Agent video talking about party policies, nor people. Can you do that?
I think you'll find it's "(Saint) Moira Stewart" - only half joking, as a fan of hers :-)
Like with a
Albanians, there is no reason other than economic to leave Vietnam. Just repatriate them and post in Vietnam that if you travel to the UK by such routes you will be removed immediately.
And yes, I do believe refugees fleeing war should be taken in.
Was there huge enthusiasm for Cameron or May? If so I must have missed it.
Johnson might have been an exception because of his reputation as a showman but were people really enthusiastic for him or just turned off by Corbyn and/or eager to see the back of the Brexit debate.
I think that whole conversation was misplaced.
It's pish
Emily is right (again), there is no excitement, theres no anything.... Even after 14 years of this madness, theres nowt to celebrate in a Starmer win. He's NOT won this, he's been handed it and many of us would rather vote GREEN. Theres little point in voting GREEN where I am but if there was more of a swell behind them, thats where my vote would go.
With each day that passes Starmers crew are p1ssing me right off and I dont have much faith going forward, the control freakery is sickening. As for the "boring" thing, thats how politics should be, just look at the ill educated clowns lapping up the Farage act, they're in for a helluva shock when he cashes in or steps aside for another project.
Labour will surely win, but how many people will stay home? A lot, I think.
Is Farage just Boris with cigarette stained teeth?
Yes. And a banjaxed voice because of 40 B&H a day. I bet he stinks.
"Is Farage just Boris with cigarette stained teeth?"
I resent the implication that Boris doesn't have cigarette-stained teeth.☹
I think CCHQ would probably rather Rishi just went sat in the back garden of no 10 (or fly to America) for the rest of the campaign. Everything he touches is turning to red at the moment.
"I think CCHQ would probably rather Rishi just went sat in the back garden of no 10 (or fly to America) for the rest of the campaign."
It wouldn't be the first time that Sunak left something early.
Last time I checked you can get Yorkshire Tapas at the Blues Bar in Harrogate.
Dude doesn't even understand how inflation works.
A thing used to cost £1. Inflation at 100% means it now costs £2.
Inflation drops to 50% and said item now costs £3.
"We halved inflation! Now the public will start to feel better off!" No, the thing that used to cost £1 now costs £3 and my salary didn't change a penny in that time.
Fool.
I would argue against Blair being popular in 1997, we were in a similar position back then to where we are in 2024. Thatchers populist wave was in decline and the centre/left were utterly fed up with the country’s decline, perceived or not. I personally detested Blair but respected what Labour were offering. What I’d like to know is where all the many, many millions of dodgy donation
…s that the CONservatives have been receiving are been saved for. I’m guessing they’re going to try for a Brexit style targeted social media misinformation campaign in the last two weeks.
‘Opinion polls during campaigning showed strong support for Labour (in 1997) due to Blair’s personal popularity.’ Seems you are in the minority.
@@methanedirigible Maybe so. Happy to make my own way in life and not follow the herd. I do recall not being able to convince any of my peers that he wasn’t as bad as being portrayed by the Tories at the time. Whatever though, I still voted for Labour as they were best for the future, as then, as today.
6 weeks for an election campaign is far to long , it can be done in 3 weeks ( 4 is fine ) …. The media may be having a fab time but most of us are fed up taking about it
If you are going to have a snap election, it seems to suggest something snappier than 6 weeks.
"6 weeks for an election campaign is far to long..."
America: Cry me a river.
Maybe 40% of the vote? Massive majority?
System's not exactly great is it?
But that's OK when the Tories get 40%?
lewis talks too much
Grew up supporting Labour. In despair now. Starmer makes Blair look like Arthur Scargill.
So vote tory and get a bigger protest badge…get the tories out, then labour, one step at a time!
I have enjoyed your channel from the start - somethings happened over last week or so? Not the same. Very negative and down ommn Labour... and having in very very odd guests. Think I will go elsewhere.
"...somethings happened over last week or so? Not the same."
They're spending a lot of time looking at what Tories are doing wrong, and not much time looking at what Labour is doing right - it's like they don't want to give Labour any credit.
I love your videos but my goodness your all very safe in your left leaning . I'm 70 years old and always voted Labour . Nigel for me from now on.
Forgot the Brexit lies already?
What do you think that ponce will do?
Guess what? 'Nigel' is really concerned about your welfare - that's why he intended to earn a lot of money campaigning for Trump and maybe getting a job in his government.
Changed his mind? Must have been his concern for you.
How do you think he feels about the NHS? Clue, he's not a fan.
Vote Reform UK 🇬🇧🇬🇧🏴🇯🇲🇱🇰
... and give labour a vote!
You couldn't pay me enough to vote for any of those fash-lovers Jan.
@@flickthenickmight as well just vote Labour and cut out the far right activist company, entirely 😂😂😂👌🏻👌🏻
No
Botty? Is that you?
No. Should be about policy and previous performance.