Great video! This Samsung HD CRT model is from 2005, but models from prior years can do lagless 480p and 1080i. I've talked about these sets in a CRT Catalog guide I've written up.
I know about the CRT Catalog guide and it's been a pretty big help, though I wish more people knew about it too >:) Good reference for a fair amount of CRT's of all sorts, including the more rare ones
HD CRT TVs worked with resolutions: 1) 960x540p (16:9) or 720x540p at 4:3; 2) 1920x1080i (16:9) or 1440x1080i at 4:3. The legendary Sony CRT monitor with an aspect ratio of 16:10 worked with resolutions: 1) 960x600; 2) 1280x800; 3) 1680x1050; 4) 1920x1200; 5) 2560x1600.
Use to have a newer version of this over a decade ago. I had a 32" Samsung Slimfit HD CRT TV, which in some ways I sorta miss still to this day. Unfortunately I had to get rid of it as it had a flyback transformer that failed on it many years ago. Also I can attest to the convergence issues on the slimfit variants. Had some warping in the corners and discoloration which might of also been a issue with the crt mask. 1080i with ps3 for me I found things with small text hard to read as it was to blurry. With all that said, I loved using it at the time with my wii, and watching movies. The HD CRT could do deeper blacks that at the time the only other technology that could do them was plasma. Sound quality of the built in speakers was the best I have ever heard for a built in set.
Huh? I can read most text fine on PS3 with *composite!* only game I have issues with is GT5, and back in the day, I played PS3 at 720p, which was max res with most games. I want to component mod my TV in the future though...
You can get the Nintendo switch to display 1080i if you get the right atlona video scaler. It let's you select the input to 1080p and the output to 1080i. It will also increase clarity a bit and you can make the colors better. Just know that this is more for movie/cartoon/UA-cam watching as this will add some input lag since it has to scale the image. I have one hooked up to my SD CRT and the colors can get close to a modern TV.
I have Sony's KD- 34 XBR970 and there's no lag with HDMI. The last models of a lot of HDCRTs were pretty good on that. It was the earlier models because they focused on picture quality as a priority.
CRT is awesome. Until it sees a resurgance everyone should hang onto at least 1. I have a LCD and a CRT TV. They both run classic video games the way they should look. I have a 4k tv from this year and it looks good for modern gaming but not for old games. This idea that old games look pixelated is because the HD monitor cant show it how it was supposed to look. burring and added shadow makes the graphics look great
I have an old toshiba hd crt. It even has an hdmi port on the back, but other than only being like a 26 inch it has just as good of a pic as my fairly new 4k 50 inch. My crt also runs 1080i and it also does 720p. I've been holding on to mine bc this one of yours is only the 3rd model I've ever even seen so I think they're pretty rare and may be worth something someday.
Oh heck man they already are few grand or more for what ai imagine an ebay of a new old stock would be fairly more though lile a few grabd at minumum in usd.. maybe even 5 or more thousand dollars ykwis?
Que nostalgia, cara! Tinha essa TV, lembro que ela pesava horrores hahaha Joguei muito nintendo Wii nela, inclusive assistia Netflix pelo nitendo wii através dop cabo componente que era a melhor resolução que a TV atingia .De alguma forma havia experimentávamos uma certa magia ao utilizar esses aparelhos antigos que hoje não se encontra mais.
I have a Sony 32 Plasma TV doesn't have HDMI but it has DVI and component inputs it looks fantastic i connect my PS4 through hdmi to DVI adapter and a sound bar to get audio...gaming Nirvana at 1080i
I owned that exact TV or one very similar to it at one point. I didn't appreciate it because I couldn't use it as a practical PC monitor since the text was so blurry. I promptly sold it because I didn't understand its advantages.
I was going to pick up the Samsung Dynaflat TX-R2435 CRT that you have today for under $20 but someone beat me to it today. Good to know that light gun games don't like HD CRTs. I guess I would swap my dreamcast and PS2 from the HD CRT to the SD CRT when wanting to play light gun games.
I remember reading the early Slimfit models were a bit of a fire risk! There were some instances where the connector to the scan coil assembly had overheated and set the back cover on fire! If anyone still has one, it would be advisable to cut the plug off and solder the wires on directly. Naturally, the latter revisions came pre-modified anyway..
@DicedApricots It's hard to say, as product release dates can differ wildly depending on country/ region. I guess if it's been fine all that time, there's nothing really to worry about. Just observe basic precautions such as not leaving the TV unattended when in use, or discontinue use it if it starts playing-up.
Ooof that is by far what also now sounds frightening for imagining the slim and ultra slimfit crt types fwiw from past research being mere indication of supposedly flawed distortion risk
@@mistamontiel00 Most likely dry solder joints on the CRT neckboard (check RGB drives). A heavily worn-out tube or even flash-over in the tube itself can give similar symptoms. As for safety, the general rule with all 'vintage' electronics is to simply not leave running unattended. I wouldn't worry yourself too much!
I saw one on Facebook marketplace im planning on getting this weekend, its also a Samsung and the same size but someone said yours is from 2005 and everything about mine is coming up 2004, and unfortunately because of that it doesn't have hdmi, however i could still use dvi or use a gbsc to convert newer systems. People crap on these tvs but theyre ideal for something like the original xbox or wii, and i think its a nice middle Point between a retro tv a d something more capable and modern
I wish I had a panny tau HD, apparently they can't do 720p but they can do 480p/1080i native with no lag, and 240p/480i are both only linedoubled so it's about lagless too
I actually have a Sony KD-34XS955 HD CRT and the convergence is not the absolute best on it, but going to fix it by tweaking the ring magnets on the neck and use convergence strips. You should mod your Wii with a Wiidual, since the YPbPr output in the Wii is very subpar, even compared to the RAW digital A/V output on the GameCube. And it gives your Wii an HDMI output.
Lovely, always wanted one to play wii and gamecube stuff. Unfortunately, the only HDCRTs released in Europe are those slim fits by samsung and some other slim designs by LG... which are extremely rare.
@@P-0-Seventeen I bought an HD Slimfit at a garage sale for 5 dollars, I thought it would be good for NES/SNES since it's 4:3 ratio. Everyone seems to dunk on it, I'm not sure what it would be good for now.
been looking for one of these. i missed out on one a while back cuz my neighbor had it in the driveway during a rain storm. I should have grabbed it. at the time I didn't know that CRTs were bulletproof enough to survive the rain
Would this be a good TV to use as a monitor with a dedicated retro gaming PC? Reason being is that using a PC seems like it would be a good way to overcome the aspect ratio/input lag issues of 480p vs 480i because most emulators do allow for widescreen gameplay or other various display modifications to fit this screen. Perhaps I'm missing something though.
If I had the money and space, I'd totally get a CRT for Gamecube and other retro consoles. From your experience, what would be the best crt for me to get? Especially for the 8 and 16 bit consoles, where the pixel art benefits from the crt image?
Any SD CRT out there. No best model just what you like the best. This will ensure you get a proper 240p which HD CRTs are not capable of due to digital processing. Although gamecube that have the digital port are really good on SD sets with component and HD and VGA CRTs
@@crestofhonor2349 Thanks. I'd prefer just one tv so I'll probs get a regular SD crt if I ever do that. I used to have one of those GameCubes before my mom made me give mine away about a decade ago (younger brother had a GameCube we shared), but I've seen videos of people using some hd converter thing for that digital port and it looks cool. Nice video and I'll try to be back for more.
In UK widescreen broadcasts started in 1997, the TVs may not be HD but PAL broadcasts are 576i so do look better than standard NTSC broadcasts! Thankfully in this day and age most things are fairly similar, only differences is in Europe at use DVB-X2 and in NA it's ATSC X
I got a 30” Samsung widescreen TV back in 2003 so that I could do 480p GameCube games. Unfortunately, I had to return it because it would force 480p to widescreen even though most 480p GameCube games were 4:3. This was fine for anamorphic DVDs but I was not going to tolerate a stretched/distorted Metroid Prime in progressive scan! After returning it to Circuit City I ended up paying more than twice as much for a Sony KV-30XBR910 instead which I still have today. Unfortunately, it has digital image processing to accomplish that feat but it’s still an amazing tube.
@@Rodberr Because digital processing on analog inputs back then would universally treat 240p as 480i and process the image accordingly. That usually means artifacts and latency from trying to “deinterlace” non-interlaced video. They can’t “deinterlace” a 480i frame until they have digitized and stored at least two interlaced fields. Since each interlaced field is actually a full frame of 240p video, you end up delaying the frame, adding latency and breaking light gun support. This also blurs detail by blending frames, stutters in what should be smooth scrolling, and breaks 60hz effects: instead of flashing fast to look transparent after getting hit, Mario might go invisible, stay solid, or alternate between both. Technically, the standard is 59.97hz so even digital TVs that do understand 240p these days are still tripped up by the odd refresh rates of old consoles, like Samsung’s 2017 update that break Super Nintendo Entertainment System just because it’s 60.08hz instead of bang-on 59.97hz. GameCube was almost entirely 480i and 480p so this wasn’t an issue. It’s everything that came before GameCube/PlayStation 2/XBOX where this is an issue.
I remember my parents trying to carry down an HD CRT to the basement as a kid. My dumbass thought my parents were bodybuilders by just carrying it down, even though my mom almost fell and broke her hip.
720p is accepted but it's not outputting 720p no matter what is claimed in the manual. Pretty sure it's being upped to 1080i or down to 540p. Lots of lag involved. The only consoles to you should use this with is the Wii because of native 480p. It's also an excellent TV for cable tv since most channels are broadcast in 1080i. And lastly, it's perfect for dvd
Yeah heard the slim crt concept except for maybe by way of sony watchman variants that the big like samsung/lg models are a fairly notorious for having a tendency for developing a pincushion distortion problem from what I can gather from research from the past... but yeah... though some hd crts have even closer to 1080p res so be sure to check the specs fwiw.
I've got a Toshiba 26" widescreen and a Toshiba 32" 4:3 HD CRTs. The 32" has a noticeably better picture, interestingly. The 26" has an HDMI port but the 32" has a DVI port, oddly, which I have an HDMI adapter plugged in to. Switch look great on it. 240p in particular looks bad on it, but 480i is okay. For Xbox 360, Gamecube/Wii, and watching movies, there's no better display.
I have a Samsung Dynaflat TXN2745FP, it's an EDTV and does 480p. I love the set, however its developed an issue when using the component inputs, the picture, ever so slightly, bounces up and down. I'm not sure where to start in diagnosing. I've tried swapping the cables and isolating the TV's power cord to its own outlet, didn't help. I haven't messed around in the service menu nor have I removed the back. I suppose I should check for bad caps. Any other recommendations or have you experienced this issue with any of your Dynaflats?
Would velocity scan modulation have anything to do with this? I may attempt to disconnect or turn it off in the menu. Just a thought. Any help is greatly appreciated.
@@FFFFFFFFFF493 couldn't tell you the bouncing issue exactly but most problems that come from CRT's can be solved by replacing caps. Also I would always disable VM regardless, as it pretty much always hurts the actual look of the image since most of the time they were poorly implemented back then.
I would recommend modding your Wii with the Wii Dual HDMI mod, since the Wii’s component (YPbPr) output is not all that good in terms of color reproduction and clarity. This mod board is basically the same thing as the HDMI adapters that you plug into your GameCube’s Digital AV port. You will still get 480p maximum, but it’s night and day when it comes to color and clarity.
@@P-0-Seventeen I also wanted to ask about that. Can you set it to automatically show 4:3 content and 16:9 content, in their correct aspect ratios? Or do you have to manually choose the aspect ratio? Can it be set differently for the different inputs? Like HDMI and component automatically default to 16:9, and composite defaults to 4:3? Or is it one setting across the board?
@@Richard.LinderFor HDMI I believe HD CRTs have they’re own setting for and component/s-video/composite have their own. I used to own a Panasonic HD CRT and if you played a Blu-ray which is 1080p (the TV would only take 1080i so I had to change that in the Blu-ray player settings), then you can’t do anything and have to watch it in widescreen aspect. For 480i/480p signals like from a DVD or games like from PS2 and earlier you could change it to full, zoom in or 4:3. TL;DR: 1080i will default to widescreen and 480i content should default to 4:3 unless it’s like a widescreen only DVD. If it doesn’t default, then you’d have to manually change it, but as far as I can remember, it just did it automatically.
You sound like the stereotypical 1980s nerd, but strangely, discussing technology from the future. You have a ton of confidence in your factuality by the way
I have the Sony KV-34HS420. Looks similar to the XBR models but the tv is all silver. Has HDMI & component inputs. I've had it for almost 15 years. Back then you could get these for free. Now people want $100 for them.
Thing people do not realize, is that these HD TV's cannot show movies properly. They are still tied to the crappy DVD format for playback (2/3 pullup or 104% speedup), and not capable of running native refresh non-interlaced HD video content. So no chance you can watch a Blu Ray on this. If you combine that with the weight and the second hand price (video's like this inflate the price to insane amounts), it is no viable option to get one. Getting a 1080p plasma from Panasonic is a totally superior option. Those are like 20-30 bucks, weigh 1/3rd (still spinebreaking heavy, but they kill one spine, not 3 including your friends ones), they do tackle 50i/60i/24p/25p/30p/50p/60p all up to 1080 lines, the color gamut is wider, the distortion is less and the image is just way bigger.
I think you're misinterpreting a bit on the video and also have some things wrong about the DVD/Blu Ray playback on these HD CRT's. I watch DVD/Blu Ray video on mine all the time (mainly Star Wars and anime lmao, but remember that Blu Ray is rated for 1080i50/60 or 1080p24/50/60) without issues or any noticeable loss of detail (depending on the compression of the disc itself) from a regular viewing distance. They can handle these movie formats pretty easily (mine does 480p60 for DVD and 720p60 or 1080i60 for Blu Ray) and the 2/3 pulldown happens anyway on a Plasma (not to mention these flat screens still have to strobe the video to prevent flickering so you lose out on motion clarity) or an HD CRT so it makes no difference. Also the 4% speedup/speed down is completely unrelated since it's related to regional format changes (ntsc->pal or pal->ntsc) through what you're running it to. Otherwise it's going to run at 1.0x speed without issue. I don't disagree though on the weight and size of these big chunguses though which is why this video is about if it's something to CONSIDER, spread awareness/info on these sets. It's not about trying to inflate prices at all, so just understand that from a person who likes CRTs and Plasmas.
@@P-0-Seventeen Blu Ray always outputs the original frame rate, if you play a 23,976Hz movie, that is what comes out of the player. A CRT can't make chocolate of that. Play a PAL BR, it outputs 50Hz. Did you actually hook up a BR player to a CRT? Oh and a movie theater strobes a movie as well. Scanlines are weird for movies. Thats why many modern TV's do black frame insertion in 2:1 ratio, as that is closest to a film projector.
@2kBofFun I use my PS3 through HDMI 1080i as my Blu Ray player lmao, but I'm in NTSC land so PAL Blu Ray's don't really exist here unless you go searching. So there's no speedup/speeddown as I mentioned before to worry about on this set or player because I just run.. NTSC stuff >:)
@2kBofFun idk what exactly it throws at the CRT but whatever it is, it works fine. I've been watching all my Star Wars movies in Blu Ray through the ps3 since the console handles it well. I'd have to look more into the specs of the ps3 to see what movies run at frame wise
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Great video! This Samsung HD CRT model is from 2005, but models from prior years can do lagless 480p and 1080i. I've talked about these sets in a CRT Catalog guide I've written up.
I know about the CRT Catalog guide and it's been a pretty big help, though I wish more people knew about it too >:) Good reference for a fair amount of CRT's of all sorts, including the more rare ones
@@P-0-Seventeen Wonderful! Glad it could be of use for you!
The young kids are going to complain about the 47250 Hz.
Lmao
I mean that's great but 47,300 is when it really gets smooth 😂
HD CRT TVs worked with resolutions:
1) 960x540p (16:9) or 720x540p at 4:3;
2) 1920x1080i (16:9) or 1440x1080i at 4:3.
The legendary Sony CRT monitor with an aspect ratio of 16:10 worked with resolutions:
1) 960x600;
2) 1280x800;
3) 1680x1050;
4) 1920x1200;
5) 2560x1600.
Use to have a newer version of this over a decade ago. I had a 32" Samsung Slimfit HD CRT TV, which in some ways I sorta miss still to this day. Unfortunately I had to get rid of it as it had a flyback transformer that failed on it many years ago. Also I can attest to the convergence issues on the slimfit variants. Had some warping in the corners and discoloration which might of also been a issue with the crt mask. 1080i with ps3 for me I found things with small text hard to read as it was to blurry.
With all that said, I loved using it at the time with my wii, and watching movies. The HD CRT could do deeper blacks that at the time the only other technology that could do them was plasma. Sound quality of the built in speakers was the best I have ever heard for a built in set.
Huh? I can read most text fine on PS3 with *composite!* only game I have issues with is GT5, and back in the day, I played PS3 at 720p, which was max res with most games. I want to component mod my TV in the future though...
You can get the Nintendo switch to display 1080i if you get the right atlona video scaler. It let's you select the input to 1080p and the output to 1080i. It will also increase clarity a bit and you can make the colors better. Just know that this is more for movie/cartoon/UA-cam watching as this will add some input lag since it has to scale the image. I have one hooked up to my SD CRT and the colors can get close to a modern TV.
I have Sony's KD- 34 XBR970 and there's no lag with HDMI. The last models of a lot of HDCRTs were pretty good on that. It was the earlier models because they focused on picture quality as a priority.
I am picking up a 2003 dynaflat CRT on Saturday. I will need an HDMI to component converter too. I plan to use it with my PC and my retro consoles
CRT is awesome. Until it sees a resurgance everyone should hang onto at least 1. I have a LCD and a CRT TV. They both run classic video games the way they should look. I have a 4k tv from this year and it looks good for modern gaming but not for old games. This idea that old games look pixelated is because the HD monitor cant show it how it was supposed to look. burring and added shadow makes the graphics look great
Thank you, my friend, and I wish you great success
I have an old toshiba hd crt. It even has an hdmi port on the back, but other than only being like a 26 inch it has just as good of a pic as my fairly new 4k 50 inch. My crt also runs 1080i and it also does 720p. I've been holding on to mine bc this one of yours is only the 3rd model I've ever even seen so I think they're pretty rare and may be worth something someday.
Oh heck man they already are few grand or more for what ai imagine an ebay of a new old stock would be fairly more though lile a few grabd at minumum in usd.. maybe even 5 or more thousand dollars ykwis?
@@bsanchez3563if they're worth *that much,* some company should start making new HD CRT's.
I’ve never seen any tv like this, it’s awesome! It’s good for Cable TV and DVD
Definitely a must have,the light on it just looks very natural,on a lcd screen,the light just doesn’t look that dynamic.
Most LCDs have poor contrast, especially older LCDs and that's why. OLED does not have this issue
Que nostalgia, cara! Tinha essa TV, lembro que ela pesava horrores hahaha
Joguei muito nintendo Wii nela, inclusive assistia Netflix pelo nitendo wii através dop cabo componente que era a melhor resolução que a TV atingia .De alguma forma havia experimentávamos uma certa magia ao utilizar esses aparelhos antigos que hoje não se encontra mais.
I have a Sony 32 Plasma TV doesn't have HDMI but it has DVI and component inputs it looks fantastic i connect my PS4 through hdmi to DVI adapter and a sound bar to get audio...gaming Nirvana at 1080i
Its a Cool TV tbh, also i see you made Videos about TV Monitors and i see rarely that these type of Channels exist.
that is an amazing tv!
I owned that exact TV or one very similar to it at one point. I didn't appreciate it because I couldn't use it as a practical PC monitor since the text was so blurry. I promptly sold it because I didn't understand its advantages.
It's beautiful
I was going to pick up the Samsung Dynaflat TX-R2435 CRT that you have today for under $20 but someone beat me to it today. Good to know that light gun games don't like HD CRTs. I guess I would swap my dreamcast and PS2 from the HD CRT to the SD CRT when wanting to play light gun games.
To much tamagotchi 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I remember reading the early Slimfit models were a bit of a fire risk! There were some instances where the connector to the scan coil assembly had overheated and set the back cover on fire! If anyone still has one, it would be advisable to cut the plug off and solder the wires on directly. Naturally, the latter revisions came pre-modified anyway..
@DicedApricots It's hard to say, as product release dates can differ wildly depending on country/ region. I guess if it's been fine all that time, there's nothing really to worry about. Just observe basic precautions such as not leaving the TV unattended when in use, or discontinue use it if it starts playing-up.
Ooof that is by far what also now sounds frightening for imagining the slim and ultra slimfit crt types fwiw from past research being mere indication of supposedly flawed distortion risk
Damn my shitfit eventually would glitch out blue and shut off.. TXT3093WHX/XAA August 2007 is this crap a fire hazard too
@@mistamontiel00 Most likely dry solder joints on the CRT neckboard (check RGB drives). A heavily worn-out tube or even flash-over in the tube itself can give similar symptoms.
As for safety, the general rule with all 'vintage' electronics is to simply not leave running unattended. I wouldn't worry yourself too much!
@@Oldgamingfart ua-cam.com/video/JFkbcaHpfzc/v-deo.html @ 3:36 4:58 shit I found this filming again yeh not even the blue screen o.0
I saw one on Facebook marketplace im planning on getting this weekend, its also a Samsung and the same size but someone said yours is from 2005 and everything about mine is coming up 2004, and unfortunately because of that it doesn't have hdmi, however i could still use dvi or use a gbsc to convert newer systems. People crap on these tvs but theyre ideal for something like the original xbox or wii, and i think its a nice middle Point between a retro tv a d something more capable and modern
I’ve got one of those HD CRT’s, but mine is a Panasonic Tau 26” They pop up once in a while but still rareish. Personally love mine.
I wish I had a panny tau HD, apparently they can't do 720p but they can do 480p/1080i native with no lag, and 240p/480i are both only linedoubled so it's about lagless too
@@P-0-Seventeen Yeah, no 720P sucks, but 1080i is still beautiful. Got it as my bedroom TV
I actually have a Sony KD-34XS955 HD CRT and the convergence is not the absolute best on it, but going to fix it by tweaking the ring magnets on the neck and use convergence strips. You should mod your Wii with a Wiidual, since the YPbPr output in the Wii is very subpar, even compared to the RAW digital A/V output on the GameCube. And it gives your Wii an HDMI output.
Lovely, always wanted one to play wii and gamecube stuff. Unfortunately, the only HDCRTs released in Europe are those slim fits by samsung and some other slim designs by LG... which are extremely rare.
Dang that sucks, I know samsung slim fits here are pretty iffy for geometry and all. The dynaflats were far better in every way lol
im based in the uk and i've seen a few hd toshiba and panasonic crt displays for sale before
@@P-0-Seventeen I bought an HD Slimfit at a garage sale for 5 dollars, I thought it would be good for NES/SNES since it's 4:3 ratio. Everyone seems to dunk on it, I'm not sure what it would be good for now.
Oh how do you feel about hd 6th gen gaming or even backwards compatibility for the 7th gen even the 360 type of era consoles?
been looking for one of these. i missed out on one a while back cuz my neighbor had it in the driveway during a rain storm. I should have grabbed it. at the time I didn't know that CRTs were bulletproof enough to survive the rain
Oh yeah for sure, I pulled a crt computer monitor out from the dirt that'd been sitting for years and it still managed to work
Would this be a good TV to use as a monitor with a dedicated retro gaming PC?
Reason being is that using a PC seems like it would be a good way to overcome the aspect ratio/input lag issues of 480p vs 480i because most emulators do allow for widescreen gameplay or other various display modifications to fit this screen. Perhaps I'm missing something though.
Do you recommend it?
Man great video. I was just looking for this model and just appeared. One question, how is the lag at 480p and 720p. Is it 0ish?
Nah you can feel it a little, anywhere from 2-3 frames depending on console
If I had the money and space, I'd totally get a CRT for Gamecube and other retro consoles. From your experience, what would be the best crt for me to get? Especially for the 8 and 16 bit consoles, where the pixel art benefits from the crt image?
Any SD CRT out there. No best model just what you like the best. This will ensure you get a proper 240p which HD CRTs are not capable of due to digital processing. Although gamecube that have the digital port are really good on SD sets with component and HD and VGA CRTs
@@crestofhonor2349 Thanks. I'd prefer just one tv so I'll probs get a regular SD crt if I ever do that. I used to have one of those GameCubes before my mom made me give mine away about a decade ago (younger brother had a GameCube we shared), but I've seen videos of people using some hd converter thing for that digital port and it looks cool. Nice video and I'll try to be back for more.
In UK widescreen broadcasts started in 1997, the TVs may not be HD but PAL broadcasts are 576i so do look better than standard NTSC broadcasts! Thankfully in this day and age most things are fairly similar, only differences is in Europe at use DVB-X2 and in NA it's ATSC X
I have one of these that needs to be completely recapped
I got a 30” Samsung widescreen TV back in 2003 so that I could do 480p GameCube games. Unfortunately, I had to return it because it would force 480p to widescreen even though most 480p GameCube games were 4:3. This was fine for anamorphic DVDs but I was not going to tolerate a stretched/distorted Metroid Prime in progressive scan! After returning it to Circuit City I ended up paying more than twice as much for a Sony KV-30XBR910 instead which I still have today. Unfortunately, it has digital image processing to accomplish that feat but it’s still an amazing tube.
Why is the digitallly processed image bad?
@@Rodberr Because digital processing on analog inputs back then would universally treat 240p as 480i and process the image accordingly. That usually means artifacts and latency from trying to “deinterlace” non-interlaced video.
They can’t “deinterlace” a 480i frame until they have digitized and stored at least two interlaced fields. Since each interlaced field is actually a full frame of 240p video, you end up delaying the frame, adding latency and breaking light gun support.
This also blurs detail by blending frames, stutters in what should be smooth scrolling, and breaks 60hz effects: instead of flashing fast to look transparent after getting hit, Mario might go invisible, stay solid, or alternate between both. Technically, the standard is 59.97hz so even digital TVs that do understand 240p these days are still tripped up by the odd refresh rates of old consoles, like Samsung’s 2017 update that break Super Nintendo Entertainment System just because it’s 60.08hz instead of bang-on 59.97hz.
GameCube was almost entirely 480i and 480p so this wasn’t an issue. It’s everything that came before GameCube/PlayStation 2/XBOX where this is an issue.
I remember my parents trying to carry down an HD CRT to the basement as a kid. My dumbass thought my parents were bodybuilders by just carrying it down, even though my mom almost fell and broke her hip.
im guessing its still in the basement
@@randomgreekhuman It isn't. My dad replaced it with an 32" LCD TV about 3 years ago, but he ended up not using either of them.
@@kennerfee100 Damn, how heavy was it?
@@randomgreekhuman Probably weighed more than me and my dad combined. We did end up destroying the tube in the backyard tho.
@@kennerfee100 ok
720p is accepted but it's not outputting 720p no matter what is claimed in the manual. Pretty sure it's being upped to 1080i or down to 540p. Lots of lag involved. The only consoles to you should use this with is the Wii because of native 480p. It's also an excellent TV for cable tv since most channels are broadcast in 1080i. And lastly, it's perfect for dvd
Interesting!
Nice tv
I found a Samsung TX-R3079WH. Is this considered a Dynaflat?
I like the DynaFlat's. They are Ok. Just stay Far away from SlimFits. Worse TV I ever had
Yeah heard the slim crt concept except for maybe by way of sony watchman variants that the big like samsung/lg models are a fairly notorious for having a tendency for developing a pincushion distortion problem from what I can gather from research from the past... but yeah... though some hd crts have even closer to 1080p res so be sure to check the specs fwiw.
I've got a Toshiba 26" widescreen and a Toshiba 32" 4:3 HD CRTs. The 32" has a noticeably better picture, interestingly. The 26" has an HDMI port but the 32" has a DVI port, oddly, which I have an HDMI adapter plugged in to. Switch look great on it. 240p in particular looks bad on it, but 480i is okay. For Xbox 360, Gamecube/Wii, and watching movies, there's no better display.
in europe, the wii can run up to 576i on composite cables
The fuckin Samsung CRT boot up sound. I missed that
I have a Samsung Dynaflat TXN2745FP, it's an EDTV and does 480p. I love the set, however its developed an issue when using the component inputs, the picture, ever so slightly, bounces up and down. I'm not sure where to start in diagnosing. I've tried swapping the cables and isolating the TV's power cord to its own outlet, didn't help. I haven't messed around in the service menu nor have I removed the back. I suppose I should check for bad caps. Any other recommendations or have you experienced this issue with any of your Dynaflats?
Would velocity scan modulation have anything to do with this? I may attempt to disconnect or turn it off in the menu. Just a thought. Any help is greatly appreciated.
@@FFFFFFFFFF493 couldn't tell you the bouncing issue exactly but most problems that come from CRT's can be solved by replacing caps. Also I would always disable VM regardless, as it pretty much always hurts the actual look of the image since most of the time they were poorly implemented back then.
I would recommend modding your Wii with the Wii Dual HDMI mod, since the Wii’s component (YPbPr) output is not all that good in terms of color reproduction and clarity. This mod board is basically the same thing as the HDMI adapters that you plug into your GameCube’s Digital AV port. You will still get 480p maximum, but it’s night and day when it comes to color and clarity.
Really? I haven’t heard anything like that before. After the mod, it will have both outputs?
@@Red05x Yes, it will have an improved YPbPr output as well as the HDMI output.
@@JillianLatorreTS Wow, that’s good. Do you know the name of the Mod or any video to look at?
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Video on the general requirements and difficulty level on installing this mod.
@@JillianLatorreTS Thanks again. I will look into it.
I notice you were always playing in 16:9. Does the TV only support 16:9, or does it have the ability to squash the image back to 4:3?
You can set it to 4:3 which makes the image proper for games or movies not in wide screen, it's pretty cool
@@P-0-Seventeen I also wanted to ask about that.
Can you set it to automatically show 4:3 content and 16:9 content, in their correct aspect ratios? Or do you have to manually choose the aspect ratio?
Can it be set differently for the different inputs? Like HDMI and component automatically default to 16:9, and composite defaults to 4:3? Or is it one setting across the board?
@@Richard.LinderFor HDMI I believe HD CRTs have they’re own setting for and component/s-video/composite have their own. I used to own a Panasonic HD CRT and if you played a Blu-ray which is 1080p (the TV would only take 1080i so I had to change that in the Blu-ray player settings), then you can’t do anything and have to watch it in widescreen aspect. For 480i/480p signals like from a DVD or games like from PS2 and earlier you could change it to full, zoom in or 4:3. TL;DR: 1080i will default to widescreen and 480i content should default to 4:3 unless it’s like a widescreen only DVD. If it doesn’t default, then you’d have to manually change it, but as far as I can remember, it just did it automatically.
Also one question: How did you transport that CRT? If you transported by car, how did you place it in the car?
Hatchback/SUV, always face the tube forward since it's front heavy so you don't bust out the back window by accident
I think we placed one of ours face down, and another forwards-leaning. 27" flatscreen sets. Oh yeah, and took two to carry.
The mini consoles look great on them using hdmi .
With the TV OFF
In remote control press Mute + 1 + 8 + 2 + Power.
To acess the service menu.
If your HD TV says that it puts out 480i does it or does it upscale?
it upscales it
You sound like the stereotypical 1980s nerd, but strangely, discussing technology from the future. You have a ton of confidence in your factuality by the way
I owned one. Loved it. But it broke down 3 times.
Fun fact they have as large of sets as a sony pvm 45 inch set.... but from an sd year of 1989/90 but only by rumour.. also subbed for this video.
its exist , i heard someone have it
Try God of war 3 on that amazing giant
you have so many crt tvs
Does Widescreen CRT TV have 1080p resolution?
unfortunately not, just 1080i
@@P-0-Seventeenthere is can it widescreen crt's some can have 1080p, samsung also made a few rare 2k crts?
Been looking for a CRT with an HDMI for a while now and can't find one :(
I have the Sony KV-34HS420. Looks similar to the XBR models but the tv is all silver. Has HDMI & component inputs. I've had it for almost 15 years. Back then you could get these for free. Now people want $100 for them.
Dang, that's a lot of CRTs. You still alive by any chance?
Radiation therapy >:)
Didn't know these existed! Now, if my old school CRT gives up the ghost, I have an option for playing my original NES !
NES should be on a SD CRT not an HD set
@@crestofhonor2349 Thanks for the heads up!
I have a 32 Toshiba hd widescreen for free in st. louis ... just cant toss her out..
Pro got a wii hooked up to it. He cry least get a Xbox hooked up to that thing get some 720p do it do 1080p at least.
yu cann run a ps5 on that bish too, cathode ray dude did it on one of his vieeos
I honestly am confused why people say CRT's use alot of electricity, 60 watts for one device aint much
Heh, me too, it's half as much as a flat panel i think
yes, even LEDs use more than most crt's@@mr.jamster8414
CRT HEAVY GROUNDED
The meaning of HD hasnt always been the same. Once upon a time, 480p was considered hd. But HD was more of a buzzword at the time.
Thing people do not realize, is that these HD TV's cannot show movies properly. They are still tied to the crappy DVD format for playback (2/3 pullup or 104% speedup), and not capable of running native refresh non-interlaced HD video content. So no chance you can watch a Blu Ray on this. If you combine that with the weight and the second hand price (video's like this inflate the price to insane amounts), it is no viable option to get one. Getting a 1080p plasma from Panasonic is a totally superior option. Those are like 20-30 bucks, weigh 1/3rd (still spinebreaking heavy, but they kill one spine, not 3 including your friends ones), they do tackle 50i/60i/24p/25p/30p/50p/60p all up to 1080 lines, the color gamut is wider, the distortion is less and the image is just way bigger.
I think you're misinterpreting a bit on the video and also have some things wrong about the DVD/Blu Ray playback on these HD CRT's. I watch DVD/Blu Ray video on mine all the time (mainly Star Wars and anime lmao, but remember that Blu Ray is rated for 1080i50/60 or 1080p24/50/60) without issues or any noticeable loss of detail (depending on the compression of the disc itself) from a regular viewing distance. They can handle these movie formats pretty easily (mine does 480p60 for DVD and 720p60 or 1080i60 for Blu Ray) and the 2/3 pulldown happens anyway on a Plasma (not to mention these flat screens still have to strobe the video to prevent flickering so you lose out on motion clarity) or an HD CRT so it makes no difference. Also the 4% speedup/speed down is completely unrelated since it's related to regional format changes (ntsc->pal or pal->ntsc) through what you're running it to. Otherwise it's going to run at 1.0x speed without issue.
I don't disagree though on the weight and size of these big chunguses though which is why this video is about if it's something to CONSIDER, spread awareness/info on these sets. It's not about trying to inflate prices at all, so just understand that from a person who likes CRTs and Plasmas.
@@P-0-Seventeen Blu Ray always outputs the original frame rate, if you play a 23,976Hz movie, that is what comes out of the player. A CRT can't make chocolate of that. Play a PAL BR, it outputs 50Hz. Did you actually hook up a BR player to a CRT? Oh and a movie theater strobes a movie as well. Scanlines are weird for movies. Thats why many modern TV's do black frame insertion in 2:1 ratio, as that is closest to a film projector.
@2kBofFun I use my PS3 through HDMI 1080i as my Blu Ray player lmao, but I'm in NTSC land so PAL Blu Ray's don't really exist here unless you go searching. So there's no speedup/speeddown as I mentioned before to worry about on this set or player because I just run.. NTSC stuff >:)
@@P-0-Seventeen Does the PS3 output 24p and can the CRT handle that?
@2kBofFun idk what exactly it throws at the CRT but whatever it is, it works fine. I've been watching all my Star Wars movies in Blu Ray through the ps3 since the console handles it well. I'd have to look more into the specs of the ps3 to see what movies run at frame wise
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