Why do so many play this riff wrong? #3 | AC/DC

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  • Опубліковано 6 тра 2019
  • In this video we're taking an in-depth look at a seemingly easy classic guitar riff that may not be that easy after all!
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  • @PaulDavids
    @PaulDavids  5 років тому +1519

    JUST TO BE ABSOLUTELY SURE: I have huge respect for all those bands in these examples I showed. I'm not shaming anyone, I love folks that go out there and play. There isn't a better learning school than just doing it. 💪 And if that is what you want, feel free to forget about this video entirely. But if you want to able to analyze some mistakes, and make your performance groove even more, maybe you'll like the message of this video! :) Peace out!
    Oh, and I have nothing against making a riff your own.. But make sure not to ditch the groove whilst doing it ;)

    • @tolvajakos
      @tolvajakos 5 років тому +36

      For those about to rock, we salute you!

    • @krijnkrijn
      @krijnkrijn 5 років тому +15

      S10N88
      Why so mega sensitive? Obviously there is no malice intented. So just relax

    • @MichaelTaylor-rz4wm
      @MichaelTaylor-rz4wm 5 років тому +1

      @S10N88 S10N88... Agreed 100%!

    • @DONZGUITARVIDS
      @DONZGUITARVIDS 5 років тому +163

      Paul Davids hey so I’m the guy from the first clip. Love the video first of all, this is a great explanation. My dad likes to play that video for sentimental reasons because it was my first real show and I cringe every time I hear that opening. Feel free to sample any more of my god awful covers from high school, I fully endorse it. \m/ keep on fingering

    • @PaulDavids
      @PaulDavids  5 років тому +72

      ​@@DONZGUITARVIDS :) Dude, that is so awesome!
      I think people that feel it is bad to show some clips don't understand that it's no problem to make mistakes. I've never looked down on someone that made mistakes. I make mistakes ALL THE TIME, if someone wants to point 'em out in a constructive ways I'm all ears.
      Showing these examples just make the video a little more relatable for a lot of folks that play in bands, or aspire to play in bands.
      It's what I did with #1 and #2 of this 'series', so I figured why not find some clips again! As I told everyone already, much respect; you gotta start somewhere bro! Keep it up :)

  • @Zosojuan
    @Zosojuan 5 років тому +3187

    You played it wrong Paul. Your volume wasnt at 11

    • @PaulDavids
      @PaulDavids  5 років тому +367

      Thanks. I'm totally open to constructive feedback!

    • @iganpparamarta8813
      @iganpparamarta8813 5 років тому +63

      Paul Davids volume at 11....feedback....hmmmm I see what you did there, Paul.

    • @BurningPaperMusic
      @BurningPaperMusic 5 років тому +28

      Just make 10 louder?

    • @Verdigo76
      @Verdigo76 5 років тому +6

      Just to be clear, Angus does not play his amps cranked up. Somewhere near 6 to 8 on each amp.

    • @BurningPaperMusic
      @BurningPaperMusic 5 років тому +14

      Verdigo It’s a spinal tap reference:-)

  • @rikosborne1212
    @rikosborne1212 5 років тому +1551

    As a bassist, it's great to hear a guitarist talking about the importance of groove!

    • @portnoy256
      @portnoy256 5 років тому +34

      As a drummer too! 🥁

    • @portnoy256
      @portnoy256 5 років тому +4

      @Rik Osborne: If you like this video MAYBE it will be interesting (I promise you A LOT OF FUN!) to try "Tell me something good (Chaka Khan and Rufus)" with a medium-level guitarist... they will go OUT OF HEAD when you will reveal them that there is no 9/8 or 7/8 between verses and choruses but it's STRAIGHT 4/4! 😁

    • @RAPIDMEDIAGROUP
      @RAPIDMEDIAGROUP 5 років тому +5

      Exactly what I was thinking! I’ve played with very few guitarists who even “care” about a groove!

    • @XShinobixXx
      @XShinobixXx 5 років тому +8

      @@RAPIDMEDIAGROUP Same here, i have found that most guitarists seem to have a hard-on for the solo part, where they will completely shred like gods, buuuut once we get to the 90% part of the song i hear they struggle with timing and easily fall off, and that particularly sucks if you play in a band without a dedicated rhythm guitarist, because then everything falls on the bassist and drummer to maintain their groove to support the returning solo guitarist to the rhythm. And they most often than not end up going out of beat, falling behind. It starts slow, but after a few bars that tiny difference is suddenly a half beat after. And such travesty easily throws off the rest, because once the band enters a groove, its like a streamline that carries everyone along. But once one falls off that line everyone else eventually takes notice and stops too and go like; "Wtf, should we..Go and get him or?".

    • @kreush7329
      @kreush7329 5 років тому +1

      XShinobixXx literally everyone I’ve jammed with

  • @adam265
    @adam265 4 роки тому +609

    Paul Davids: Watch the foot tapping 0:58
    Everyone: [staring at a blurred video]

    • @spindillio
      @spindillio 4 роки тому +1

      Adam Smith Ha!

    • @RichRacc
      @RichRacc 4 роки тому +1

      What is that?

    • @AnthonyMonaghan
      @AnthonyMonaghan 4 роки тому +53

      @@RichRacc When he originally uploaded it you could see the bands, they weren't blurred out. He has blurred them out at a later date, I guess to disguise their identity in this super sensitive world we inhabit. Don't want to upset anyone, ever, over anything ever...ever.

    • @mortonharley
      @mortonharley 3 роки тому +7

      The funny thing is that the bands uploaded their stuff in the first place, and now complain, that someone talks about them. Weird stuff!

    • @billybones4950
      @billybones4950 3 роки тому

      I don’t think he did it, I think UA-cam has done it.

  • @SMart7751
    @SMart7751 5 років тому +160

    Years ago I had an instructor explain, “if a mistake is going to be made, you’re much better off playing the wrong thing at the right time, rather than the right thing at the wrong time. Your audience will forgive the first, not the second. ;-)

    • @mejsmith1
      @mejsmith1 3 роки тому +2

      They may even think it is intentional, and not a mistake,as long as it is in the groove.

    • @garyoak317
      @garyoak317 3 роки тому

      Anono mous YEAH Timing is everything.

    • @malcolmjohnston4624
      @malcolmjohnston4624 3 роки тому

      I just got better at covering them up, don't make a face 🤐 just 😁

  • @MathRTD
    @MathRTD 5 років тому +1717

    5:40 Now that's a nice way to avoid a copyright strike.

  • @bldrummer8287
    @bldrummer8287 5 років тому +254

    As a drummer, it gives me good feels to see a guitarist talking about the importance of timing and grooves. Great video, thank you!

    • @bldrummer8287
      @bldrummer8287 5 років тому +3

      @MorbidManMusic Hmm a one man band shamelessly plugging his own music and talking down on other musicians... interesting.
      Here's a little secret for ya... Most musicians can play multiple instruments. I myself can play percussion, guitar, bass, some piano and trombone (gotta start somewhere, brass section rules baby) and my vocals would surprise the shit out of you. There are reasons people specialize in one instrument over others. For me, it comes down to the fact that percussion is what I'm most naturally talented in and what I most enjoy playing... and since I can't play all instruments on stage, it's an easy choice.
      Even Tent Reznor had to hire a group to tour with, and you sir are no Trent Reznor. Why don't you try being more supportive and less condescending? You're not as special as you think.

  • @markuspedersen2437
    @markuspedersen2437 4 роки тому +382

    "Those kids are tight" - Paul Davids 2019

    • @ptnnnnn197
      @ptnnnnn197 4 роки тому +8

      xD

    • @toonix1015
      @toonix1015 4 роки тому +7

      Police: the sound or....

    • @Igor.J.Delgado
      @Igor.J.Delgado 3 роки тому +4

      I read like it was said by "producer guy" Ryan George of screen rant. "Those kids are TIGHT!"

    • @Noir0rioN
      @Noir0rioN 3 роки тому +1

      @@Igor.J.Delgado dude. No one else here might respect that comment, but unrespected comments are TIGHT. wow. Wowwowwow.

  • @dornyoh
    @dornyoh 5 років тому +1008

    Am i the only one amazed by the production value of this video?

    • @Gustmunhoz
      @Gustmunhoz 5 років тому +4

      Also amazed!

    • @akf2000
      @akf2000 5 років тому +11

      Yeah the bit where it went to the guy waiting on stage was like the famous scene in Contact 😀

    • @MinisYHobbiesTandil
      @MinisYHobbiesTandil 5 років тому +6

      The production, the quality and the edition. Amazed too!

    • @mikhail7104
      @mikhail7104 5 років тому +3

      MinisYHobbiesTandil I think you mean “editing”?

    • @sebastianfibes2126
      @sebastianfibes2126 5 років тому

      Maybe. I'm not.

  • @benmols
    @benmols 5 років тому +1351

    I thought it was going to be Back in Black 😂

  • @rjpoole1979
    @rjpoole1979 3 роки тому +60

    Back in black is one of their best examples of groove and timing in one riff. My guitar teacher and I spent months on that when I was a pup and it wasn't until years later why I realised how important that riff was. Great vid!

    • @Flukey_1970
      @Flukey_1970 Рік тому +1

      Great video as usual thank you

    • @s4lroachclip
      @s4lroachclip Рік тому

      Back in black on the & 3 does malcom play two or three on the second chord?? The bass is two ( & 3), but it sound like its 3 over 2 8ths on guitar, or 3 16th notes 1 2 &a3 4 &a1 ????

  • @SolamenteVees
    @SolamenteVees 5 років тому +372

    This is why Malcolm has always been undervalued as a rhythm guitarist.

  • @thegardenofeatin5965
    @thegardenofeatin5965 5 років тому +46

    When you watch Angus Young play this, the dude is heavily nodding to the beat during the solo intro. He's in that groove and he ain't jumping out.

    • @6393dude
      @6393dude 3 роки тому +2

      Too be fair he tends to heavily nod during every song

  • @tersan8547
    @tersan8547 5 років тому +80

    About playing Eruption but can't play three chords on time.
    Steve Gadd - the drummer - said that "tecnique don't mean shit if you can't lay down a solid backbeat"
    True.

    • @tersan8547
      @tersan8547 5 років тому +2

      @MorbidManMusic Yes you can.

    • @ACDC4LIFE
      @ACDC4LIFE 4 роки тому

      👍🏽TerSan - U read my mind !

  • @robkassabian4129
    @robkassabian4129 5 років тому +30

    Your video reminds me of an interview I heard with Scott Ian from Anthrax recently. In praising AC/DC he basically said that Malcolm Young and the whole band were genius at making the simplest chord structures so perfect in their timing and groove that they were incredibly hard to play. He claimed AC/DC was harder to cover accurately than Rush. AC/DC really are pretty incredible.

    • @s4lroachclip
      @s4lroachclip Рік тому +3

      As a drummer with AC/DC the bass drum is one thing that MUST be covered correctly and it is not always on 1 and 3. There is allot of snare bass drum interaction beyond what most drummers actually do when they cover them. Drummers all start with ac/dc because it seems simple, but the bass drum part is always more than it seems when the bass guitar plays it right also. Nothing more powerful than a mic'd bass drum with the bass guitar hitting those notes every time, right where they go. Back in black at the end, or shook me all night long during solo, basic but one mistake ruins it.

    • @s4lroachclip
      @s4lroachclip Рік тому +2

      Lead guitar no doubt you are right, but the only rush I can accurately cover on drums is on the first release without Neil. working man, is simple enough. Maybe partly because i do not have his set, or any electronics at all, mostly though because he was just above everyone else. Can't play golden earing radar love accurately either :( not yet.

  • @jacobnussbaum53
    @jacobnussbaum53 5 років тому +386

    This guy sounds like Syrio Forel training Arya on how to play guitar

  • @rydenstackhouse2330
    @rydenstackhouse2330 5 років тому +55

    Love this, as (primarily) a bassist, the bane of my life is guitarists with all of the speed but none of the groove

  • @JGLEASON72
    @JGLEASON72 5 років тому +267

    Some joke about acdc , but ive seen them , and the timing and tightness is everything.

    • @KingPepeLePew
      @KingPepeLePew 5 років тому +10

      malcom young was always the rock solid metronome behind ACDC's ultra tight rhythm, malcom was to angus what alex is to eddie van halen.

    • @1QuadControl
      @1QuadControl 5 років тому +4

      I love ACDC man....

    • @KlaustheViking
      @KlaustheViking 5 років тому

      @Jacob Molyneux Vinnie Paul and Dimebag as well.

    • @KlaustheViking
      @KlaustheViking 5 років тому

      @Jacob Molyneux I was going along the lines of being Alex Van Halen is to his brother, Eddie, to how Vinnie Paul is to his brother, Dimebag Darrell. Its some sort of telepathy between the two and what Vinnia plays on the drums ties into what his brother plays on the guitar very well. Unfortunately, both are gone from this world, RIP.

    • @steviesteve750
      @steviesteve750 5 років тому +4

      Phil and Mal, more accurate than the atomic clock.

  • @djentyman4002
    @djentyman4002 5 років тому +15

    Everyone says AC/DC is easy but it’s truly not. It’s not just about the notes or the rhythm. Malcolm and Angus literally perfected every single thing. How they changed the tones and played so tight and on time while not losing a step in the song. You don’t just get famous over night. What they did took years to perfect and nobody can just pick up a guitar and just mimic it. Plus nobody can nail their sound.. I tried and I’ll never duplicate the sound Malcolm or Angus can create. You have to BE them to do it

  • @keithbirdsong1036
    @keithbirdsong1036 5 років тому +23

    PREACH it Paul. Every new guitarist should receive a metronome with the guitar 🎸

  • @Ginatzzo
    @Ginatzzo 5 років тому +104

    I remember one time, a took a course a the M.A.I in Nancy (France). And we were in groups.
    I remember we were something like 12 guys, and i felt so noob seeing all this shreders and crazy people. But i wasn't a bad guitarist, just not a Metal one, and never been that much into shred.
    And then a huge metal guitarist named "Manu Livertout", make us a groove clinic about "Le freak", none of them coulmd get it right, they couldn't play all the strings while muting ones and play others, or making ghost ghost notes. And i was like.... WTF ?? Come on guys, groove is the basic thing among guitar, don't you ever listen to AcDc or classic rock ? There's nothing hard to play, but men, there's something that make them hard, and that was about groove.. That day i felt so good, and i never cared anymore about not playing faster or shred.
    Simple is good, is what's make people move their body, and bang their head.

    • @marskremer
      @marskremer 5 років тому

      J'ai aussi fait la M.A.I, Manu Livertout est un excellent guitariste et professeur, content d'en entendre parler ici !

    • @Ginatzzo
      @Ginatzzo 5 років тому

      ​@@marskremer Et puis il est drôle :p J'ai été grave surpris à l'époque que les profs la bas n'étais pas si connu que ça, même dans le milieu, apart Rondat, le reste je n'en avait jamais entendu parler (Livertout, Barès, Kermheat, Hajdi..)

    • @sorranayo9667
      @sorranayo9667 5 років тому

      Ca fait plaisir a savoir :) puisque face ce genre de personnes je me sentais toujours moins bon, mais enfaite c'est surtout qu'on ne s'est pas entrainé sur le meme aspect

    • @marskremer
      @marskremer 5 років тому

      Oui il drôle c'est un gars cool :D Moi non plus à part Rondat et Godin je n'avais jamais entendu parler des autres mais ils sont formidables. Habitant toujours sur Nancy je les voit de temps en temps et ça fait plaisir

    • @Schorschers
      @Schorschers 5 років тому +3

      While I agree with you on your whole point, I have to somehow defend the metal shredders from a technical point of view: If you always play with a heavy metal distortion sound, you will hardly ever use this technique to play your instrument, because all you will get is horrible feedback noise. So maybe the problem was (also) that they never used this playing technique, as it's normally used with lower output pickups, cleaner sound and also a different thumb position, that shredders are just not used to. Just a thought.

  • @keiththayer1794
    @keiththayer1794 5 років тому +144

    I appreciate you and the constructive criticisms that your videos sometimes contain. Keep them coming!! Thanks Paul

    • @timosande4166
      @timosande4166 5 років тому +1

      8.00 Paul ik heb super veel respect voor je, hoe je als Nederlander zulke goede Engelse video's maakt. Wel grappig om te zien dat je soms nog een klein foutje maakt, zoals bassist. Nog steeds blijft het dan super knap dat je het zelf ontdekt en het verbetert. Ik had niet geweten dat 'basist' niet goed was...

  • @marxug1
    @marxug1 4 роки тому +13

    "Internalize the drummer.” More vital words were never spoken to musicians.

  • @themuleify
    @themuleify 5 років тому +18

    I like your personality, your videos and the way in which you convey them. Absolute joy. Keep up the good work!

  • @omarjauhari45
    @omarjauhari45 5 років тому +353

    GA GA GUM. GA GA GUMMM! GA GA GUM! GA GA GUM! GUM! GAGA!
    Love your videos man! Thank you for this 🕺🏻

  • @ivanjelicic
    @ivanjelicic 5 років тому +77

    Man I just have to say it... Your editing just keeps getting better and better

    • @rodshop5897
      @rodshop5897 5 років тому +1

      Absolutely, Paul has the best looking and edited videos about guitar. Not that I mind the others, but they just don't have his level of video production.

  • @jamesmccullough9364
    @jamesmccullough9364 4 роки тому +6

    I learned to play bass before I learned guitar, and if you don't have groove when you're playing bass, the whole band notices. Naturally, implementing groove into guitar when I started learning was one of my favorite aspects of the instrument. Staying in time with the song isn't going to "ruin your solo" or "limit your expression", it's going to make the whole band sound better.

  • @harrisonjeg8258
    @harrisonjeg8258 5 років тому +39

    You should narrate those calming/ struggle to sleep story’s!

  • @40Rouge
    @40Rouge 5 років тому +18

    I know many people compliment your video editing, but damn, the editing is great. It separates you from every other guitar UA-camr.

  • @robertferns10
    @robertferns10 5 років тому +210

    Finally someone talked about this. Very suttle, but very present. Nice video Paul!

    • @sebione3576
      @sebione3576 5 років тому +17

      Subtle :)

    • @robertferns10
      @robertferns10 5 років тому +2

      @@sebione3576 www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suttle thought its acceptable? But okay what you said works too, obviously!

    • @sebione3576
      @sebione3576 5 років тому +1

      @@robertferns10 hm, I've never seen it spelled that way but you learned me something new today.

    • @robertferns10
      @robertferns10 5 років тому +1

      @@sebione3576 Oh, it's not much used. For example the word 'worser'. Shakespeare used it a lot, but by today's vocabulary, it apparently is wrong!

    • @Calamari5
      @Calamari5 5 років тому +5

      @@robertferns10 Subtle and suttle are two different words :P

  • @IncapableLP
    @IncapableLP 5 років тому +120

    *plays first 3 chords*
    Brain: "Highway to Hell!"
    The beauty of AC/DC ^^So many say, that they play the same song for 40 years now, BUT there are so many iconic songs you can distinguis, by listening to the first 4 notes/chords!

    • @mel577
      @mel577 5 років тому +1

      IncapableLP that's the opinion of the musically illiterate. Mostly folks who don't listen to rock, but rather pop.

    • @bombercountyblues
      @bombercountyblues 5 років тому +2

      You mean the first 3 strokes. It's 1 chord dude, the A chord. 3 chords make up the whole riff.

    • @the_nautillus9176
      @the_nautillus9176 4 роки тому +4

      @@bombercountyblues Fuck you.

    • @rileybaker4397
      @rileybaker4397 4 роки тому +2

      Jon Trownson most folks don’t have a good taste in music then

    • @poke-champ4256
      @poke-champ4256 3 роки тому

      @@bombercountyblues bro its still 3 chords 3 A5's he didnt say theyre different youre a little bit picky

  • @realJHerndon
    @realJHerndon 5 років тому +1

    i learn so much from Paul. He explains not only how to play guitar but how music is made and what makes it work so well... his style is great and he is a pleasure to listen to...very intimate but not pretentious at all. Just someone who knows what they're doing

  • @tomdick693
    @tomdick693 5 років тому +322

    i was AC/DC's monitor engineer from '76 to '89.....its A A A then F#D G
    and when they recorded it....the first riff was doubled by Angus......one track right and another in the center.

    • @arjunkhanna23
      @arjunkhanna23 5 років тому +36

      If this is true then rock on man! Thanks for sharing

    • @jc5604
      @jc5604 5 років тому +65

      I try not to take advice from any Ole Tom dick and Harry.

    • @AnthonyMonaghan
      @AnthonyMonaghan 5 років тому +1

      I think you meant DF# Tom.

    • @blues6782
      @blues6782 5 років тому +3

      You played it wrong, too. First chord is upstroke, not downstroke.

    • @tomdick693
      @tomdick693 5 років тому +3

      @Vince Abate yes, bon wrote all the lyrics for back in black.

  • @AnkylosingSpondylitisMan
    @AnkylosingSpondylitisMan 5 років тому +92

    Although Angus Young was the main focus of the band, to me, it was Malcolm Young that had all the groove behind the band. His rhythm work was great.

    • @halodust1304
      @halodust1304 5 років тому

      @Jacob Molyneux Cliff wasn't playing on Powerage. It was George Young.

    • @halodust1304
      @halodust1304 5 років тому +1

      @Jacob Molyneux I've no idea who Jesse Fink is, sorry! Some tracks I'm not 100% sure about but I will bet my house on Gimme a Bullet, Riff Raff, Gone Shootin and Cold Hearted Man being George. Listen to the syncopation, groove, fills, use of first inversions, the tone and above all the melodic range. it's all identical to what we hear on High Voltage and quite unlike anything that Cliff subsequently played - and I trust my ears, no matter what even Cliff himself says. Of course there's the possibility that Cliff was just playing note for note what George played on the demos or was telling him to play - but that seems unlikely to me.

    • @mattystewart8
      @mattystewart8 5 років тому +4

      I dont think ive ever met a real ac dc fan who thinks anyone but malcolm was the driving force of ac dc. Even angus himself has always said so himsel

    • @MDBenton
      @MDBenton 5 років тому +6

      Angus has always said that Malcom was the better guitarist, way underrated and didn't get the acclaim he deserved.

    • @motioninmind6015
      @motioninmind6015 5 років тому +4

      When I saw them live, in 1983, I was amazed at not only how much Malcom was playing, but how much MORE he did than Angus. Seriously. It changed my whole outlook on music, made me appreciate rhythm guitar more than flashy lead work.

  • @supersonicnomad8437
    @supersonicnomad8437 5 років тому +12

    And I assumed this was going to be about the correct chords. I played this tune "wrong" for many years. Well, right...but wrong lol. The beat was pretty much the last thing on my mind. So much so, I never realized that it was syncopated! Wow! Mind blown! That's one of the most amazing things about the guitar. One is constantly learning and evolving. It's a never ending killer kool process. I've been playing 36 years. I've just learned this. I'm still learning. A learner for life. Great channel! New sub! Thanks Paul! Rite on & rock on! \m/

  • @andre65971
    @andre65971 2 роки тому +3

    Loved how Angus showed us exactly how it should sound!
    Love your work, Paul!

  • @MadsKV
    @MadsKV 5 років тому +33

    Hey Paul. Ive been watching you videos for some years now, and i really think your content is getting better and better. Thank you for all the awesome videos :)

  • @OriginalOldSkoolFunk
    @OriginalOldSkoolFunk 5 років тому +13

    Man... your guitar lessons are always amazing...but your video editing is waaaaay of the charts!
    Keep em coming Maestro...! 🤘🏾

  • @gregorybancroft5990
    @gregorybancroft5990 5 років тому +5

    Dude this is super informative, I’m actually learning a lot from your videos. Thanks!

  • @NathanJamesLarsen
    @NathanJamesLarsen 5 років тому

    I appreciate that you approach things more deeply than just correct notes. Also, definitely loved how you went to you on stage and back to in your studio. Nice touch. Well done!

  • @gagangayari5981
    @gagangayari5981 5 років тому +28

    The riff starts on the '& of 3 '.. This has been taught by Paul Gilbert too in one of his sessions. Any PaulGilbert fan out here?

    • @MagnusGoGo
      @MagnusGoGo 5 років тому

      Yes! That lesson was the first thing that came to my mind when I realized Davids was gonna cover Highway to Hell here.
      Thank you, PG, for keeping me from being embarrassed while watching this video. :p

    • @gregbell2117
      @gregbell2117 5 років тому

      Is the strumming on 16th notes? So the first three strums are "and uh 3" ? I'm having a hard time developing the ear for this.

    • @MagnusGoGo
      @MagnusGoGo 5 років тому +3

      @@gregbell2117 As Paul shows in the video here at 6:42, the strums are in eight notes and they are on "and 4 and" - not "and uh 3". You don't need to count uhs (they're for 16ths) when you're only counting 8th notes.
      One bar looks like this: 1 (and) 2 (and) 3 (and) 4 (and)
      So the "and of 3" actually comes AFTER the 3, not before.

    • @gregbell2117
      @gregbell2117 5 років тому +1

      @@MagnusGoGo Cool, thanks man. Now that I know, I'll keep tapping my foot and nodding my head until I make that work!

  • @stephenwevans
    @stephenwevans 5 років тому +4

    Great video! You've helped me with so many subtle techniques that often get glossed over. Appreciate you taking the time to bring to our attention.

  • @fender4brad
    @fender4brad 3 роки тому +13

    I believe the answer is Yes, It it really hard for many to count this out and play it right. This type of groove has always been a bit elusive for me. It's also what makes ACDC so good, they are so tight and precise on their simple riffs. This band takes pretty simple things and make them epic. Great lesson, I think your observation on this is spot on.

  • @lequitasch
    @lequitasch 4 роки тому +3

    I gave spoken to so many other musicians who think the drums are there to keep time. I'm glad you mentioned this.

    • @phantomplanet07ify
      @phantomplanet07ify 4 роки тому

      lequitasch lol well of course drums are partly used to keep time :P

    • @lequitasch
      @lequitasch 4 роки тому

      @@phantomplanet07ify Sort of, but the point was that each person needs to have the time and rhythm internalized entirely independent from the percussion. Because if you are listening for your cue, you will be late more often etc.

  • @BurnleyNuts
    @BurnleyNuts 5 років тому +36

    I think your point about guitarists in general being lazy with timing is really valid, certainly something I've struggled with over the years. We all want to learn complicated guitar parts but many (myself included) simply neglect timing as an unimportant issue. I've listened to a lot of Led Zep tracks regarding this issue too and many of their songs feature really complicated guitar vs drum timings.

    • @jamesmandarino6641
      @jamesmandarino6641 5 років тому +1

      I think a lot of it is also a difficulty understanding how to practice timing still have issues finding good practice regimens aside from turn on a metronome and suffer till I get it perfect

    • @ros8737
      @ros8737 5 років тому +3

      I think it’s a fear of long pauses, the embaressment of missing the key and a belief that notes are more important than pauses.

    • @shorerocks
      @shorerocks 5 років тому +1

      Yep, exactly how I feel. If I knew in 1980 what I know now... :-)

    • @fivestring65ify
      @fivestring65ify 5 років тому +1

      Neglected timing as an unimportant issue. That's horrifying. You cannot play an instrument if you have no sense of timing. And you sure can't play with a band if you can't play in time. That's musician ship 101.

    • @fivestring65ify
      @fivestring65ify 5 років тому

      @@ros8737 You have to be able to count in your head. That's how you keep in time. That's why a lot of musicians tap their feet.

  • @joelbrenneman1303
    @joelbrenneman1303 5 років тому +44

    this video has changed my outlook on guitar.
    you're the best Paul Davids!

    • @thinkingmachine354
      @thinkingmachine354 5 років тому

      @@MarsLonsen care to type properly?
      Just joking, I don't care really.

    • @MarsLonsen
      @MarsLonsen 5 років тому

      @@thinkingmachine354 I'm getting that impression from you

    • @thinkingmachine354
      @thinkingmachine354 5 років тому

      Ham 'Housekeeping' Sarris wut-u-talkin-abeet?

  • @lyndamcardle4123
    @lyndamcardle4123 3 роки тому +1

    I love the "tongue in cheek" humour to your videos...and appreciate the "matter of fact" reality you bring to the table. Recommended.

  • @DerekTJ
    @DerekTJ 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this...from an old drummer! The amount of times guitarists are guilty of speeding along gave me heartache.
    Especially riffs that were down-strumming on 8ths; jen jen jen jen jen jen jen. When they got excited they'd speed it up and then look at me as if it was my fault.
    Our sing/guitarist once said to me, "do you practice with a metronome?", after HIM speeding up in the choruses - "yes I do, do you?", was my obvious response.
    It's everyone's job to keep time for the song, not just the drummer.

  • @sixthfloormemories1566
    @sixthfloormemories1566 5 років тому +233

    And a copyright claim in 4.. 3.. 2.. 1..

    • @StephenDeChellisHMTKSteve
      @StephenDeChellisHMTKSteve 5 років тому +14

      Yes. Please let us know how quickly this video gets claimed and how long at takes to counter the claim.

    • @jimmyjimmy951
      @jimmyjimmy951 5 років тому +13

      #stoparticle13

    • @encoreblade3523
      @encoreblade3523 5 років тому +60

      You're not feeling the groove. It's 1.. 2.. 3.. Copy-right ... Copy-right ... Copyright Copyright Copyright Claim!

    • @markstanbrook5578
      @markstanbrook5578 5 років тому +7

      I’d also like to hear how your battle with copyright is going Paul. But, Jimmx, this has nothing to do with Article 13. Copyright claims are made against Google, in the US, not in the EU, and most songs are owned by US record labels, not EU ones. US law is much more protective of copyright than EU law is before OR after article 13.

    • @encoreblade3523
      @encoreblade3523 5 років тому +1

      @@jimmyjimmy951 I think I watched a video a couple days ago from Phillip DeFranco mentioning that article 13 is article 17 now

  • @lenickramone
    @lenickramone 4 роки тому +10

    I challenge you to make a video on how to play correctly Ramble On - Led Zeppelin.
    That's for me one of the most mind blowing rhythm/tempo ever!

  • @br0fin
    @br0fin 5 років тому +15

    I really enjoy your videos man. It’s opening up a whole new way for me to think about guitar and music in general.

  • @johnw.ryoniv8953
    @johnw.ryoniv8953 4 роки тому +1

    You're bringing back memories from 30 year ago. I can remember yelling at everyone else in the band about this...how come so few pay attention to the fundamentals?

  • @Gustmunhoz
    @Gustmunhoz 5 років тому +13

    Paul, it is evident the amount of effort you put into yours videos to bring us the best quality possible, everytime...
    A HUGE THANK YOU FOR THAT, MATE!
    Besides, I always learn a lot from your videos; watching you feels like watching someone who's really willing to humbly share relevant knowledge.
    ANOTHER HUGE THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT CONTENT!
    I'm an admirer of your job and, somehow, also a stutend of yours.
    Cheers, from Brasil!

  • @mertronael
    @mertronael 5 років тому +3

    Thank you for this amazing video, I would love to see more AC/DC content from you! Please keep them coming!

  • @jens911ST
    @jens911ST 3 роки тому

    Your point is welcome and very well demonstrated. Thank you, Paul.

  • @phattty3536
    @phattty3536 3 роки тому

    I've never been one to watch guitar videos, i started yours a few months back, hitting every suggested link to you and i'm very obviously improving my playing. Thanks Paul!

  • @joewebbdrums
    @joewebbdrums 5 років тому +4

    "So many guitarists, so little time!" Great video :-)

  • @JackMuskrat
    @JackMuskrat 5 років тому +16

    I was really expecting this to be Back In Black, but similarly for the timing. That of the lick at the end of the riff. Either way, still great stuff!

  • @dougpeters1625
    @dougpeters1625 4 роки тому +1

    Paul I can't overstate the public service you are doing for current and future generations of the music world!

  • @darrenblanche8797
    @darrenblanche8797 4 роки тому

    Hi Paul im a 55 year old drummer that has recently started playing guitar so this video is great as ive been screeming at guitarists for years regarding their lack of rhythm!! Regards Darren

  • @EdPosey
    @EdPosey 5 років тому +4

    Excellent Video!
    This will help alot of those about to rock.

  • @thelastrebelshow1627
    @thelastrebelshow1627 5 років тому +8

    The only good thing about being my age is knowing I was there when these songs were brand new, the day they were released. Saw AC/DC with Bon Scott when they were a new band.
    🤘🔥🤘

    • @BillGatliff
      @BillGatliff 5 років тому

      +1 jealousy!

    • @erichoberg3502
      @erichoberg3502 5 років тому

      So did I, 1975 at the Whyalla Cinema, 0.60c a ticket with The Angels who were called The Keystone Angels at the time before they got popular in Australia. I was 10 years old and it was a school excursion.

  • @darksplash873
    @darksplash873 5 місяців тому

    I started out as a drummer so I was lucky enough to form an understanding of rythm and groove before I jumped over to guitar, I keep being really shocked when people don't have that ability when playing their intrument, but not everyone has gotten to learn the rhythmic part of music, which honestly is really important like you said

  • @craigspicer4296
    @craigspicer4296 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Paul and thank you for taking the time to hit on this important issue. Doesn't matter how skilled you are on other parts of the guitar. When timing and groove are out it's one way to destroy timeless tunes lol. It took years for this to sink in and one day after many years the pin dropped through watching my teacher constantly explain this fundamental principle when playing the guitar. Speed is great to work to but is not the sole goal. Being a well balanced player with tight timing and groove is what makes you appealing on stage and recording tracks.

  • @coldfronthc
    @coldfronthc 5 років тому +4

    I really love you as a musician but can we all more appreciate that editing skills. :D

  • @Immortal__
    @Immortal__ 5 років тому +16

    8:00 no need to have corrected yourself there! Bassist is absolutely the right word

    • @rodshop5897
      @rodshop5897 5 років тому

      Totally true. But then I'll also answer to "free food!"

  • @90sthings39
    @90sthings39 Рік тому +1

    Your Video on thunderstruck really helped a lot. Really I enjoy the technique u’ve provided it makes super easy learning. 🙌🏻

  • @mastpg
    @mastpg 4 роки тому

    "Many get lost...[melancholy pause and look right into the middle distance]...sadly enough" with a tone that makes you think he's talking about some friends of his who got lost on a camping trip and ended up having to eat one another to survive. Few people can be brought to this place by an AC/DC riff. Worth the price of admission.

  • @Teachering
    @Teachering 5 років тому +7

    One of the reasons that I love listening to AC/DC. Their timing is remarkable.

  • @jjwest1272
    @jjwest1272 5 років тому +49

    How do you keep time in the first 4 minutes of Shine On You Crazy Diamond?

  • @juanjosepachecoarias4841
    @juanjosepachecoarias4841 3 роки тому

    Man, I love the way you make the videos, per se I really like the themes you are talking about. The way you put the cameras ... in general editing, this draws a lot of attention. It shows you work hard.
    Thank you very much for offering this content.

  • @Zaptoid
    @Zaptoid 5 років тому +1

    Man oh man, guilty as hell here. That old gab where you play what you know fast and the parts you do not, slower. Great vid, seriously important info! Thank you.

  • @CEOMisterJohnSaxon
    @CEOMisterJohnSaxon 5 років тому +5

    Great video series, so far......you make good points, and are very knowledgeable!
    I suggest doing one of these videos on "Walk" by Pantera.......one of the simplest riffs, ever, yet so many people play it incorrectly. Haha!
    Cheers!

  • @Sebastian-eg2mq
    @Sebastian-eg2mq 5 років тому +3

    Very well edited and well done video, you’ve got a sub from myself.

  • @douglascarducci6977
    @douglascarducci6977 2 роки тому

    It really is amazing that so many players can play technical stuff but have no real feel behind it. Its great to see you accent this problem with such a basic riff because groove and feel will lead to creative moments within a player...inner metronome cant be accented enough!

  • @pod9741
    @pod9741 Рік тому

    You are so right.... no matter how experienced/talented you are, timing is everything. If your timing is right/tight you can get away with weaknesses elsewhere..... and I have a few

  • @rileymcgill9893
    @rileymcgill9893 4 роки тому +5

    I played guitar my whole life then I started filling in on bass for different bands. I realized at that point how much room you have for error on guitar but do not have that on bass or drums even on the most simple songs

  • @Kafrifelle
    @Kafrifelle 5 років тому +3

    I almost pissed myself when you were doing the vocal notes on the AC DC video lolll
    Great video as usual

  • @dropoffstergaming
    @dropoffstergaming 5 років тому +2

    This video is an important lesson for all musicians, not just guitarists playing ACDC. Playing pick up notes at the correct time and keeping a steady tempo are NECESSARY for playing any instrument.

  • @sulohintsala8396
    @sulohintsala8396 3 роки тому

    I love Paul's videos because they are not like some other guitar/bass videos where the caption is something like 10 ultimate pro guitar tricks to play sick solos

  • @turkeeg7644
    @turkeeg7644 5 років тому +9

    It comes in on the 'and' of 3. This was a huge revelation for me when I was younger. Same with the drummers. It seems so simple but is so not.

    • @lordclancharlie1325
      @lordclancharlie1325 4 роки тому

      on the "and" between the 3 and the 4, you should precise

    • @MikeSmith-tx2lp
      @MikeSmith-tx2lp 4 роки тому

      Excellent. Most of AC/DC songs use this off-beat groove. It’s the secret sauce that made three chords into the brilliant 40 year plus career of the band.

    • @daveclelland1188
      @daveclelland1188 3 роки тому

      Lord Clancharlie That’s what he said....the “and” of 3 is the same “and” that’s between 3 and 4!

    • @lordclancharlie1325
      @lordclancharlie1325 3 роки тому

      @@daveclelland1188 Stupid me ! Sorry, I didn't read correctly his comment when I wrote mine

  • @vishantrai8079
    @vishantrai8079 5 років тому +17

    i hope this video doesn't get demonetised and all that stupid crap.
    you're doing a great job, Paul. keep it up, man !

  •  4 роки тому

    One of your most important video. Rhythm and groove is everything. Thank you.

  • @JulienVanier
    @JulienVanier 2 місяці тому

    This video is so awesome. It's exactly the problem I was having with Highway to Hell. As a beginner, I didn't get the groove. It makes so much sense now. Thanks!

  • @marequeburger7370
    @marequeburger7370 5 років тому +4

    Big Fan of your videos, cheers from Mexico. ;) I also took your guitar course.

  • @FischerCentral
    @FischerCentral 5 років тому +6

    Ga-ga-gown! LOL! Way to work around the copyright Paul :) Awesome episode!

    • @philoumars3168
      @philoumars3168 5 років тому

      It's too late. Come up on the ring RIGHT Now !!

  • @jamesdylan100
    @jamesdylan100 4 роки тому +1

    "don't want to offend anyone... educational purposes" = fair use. I love it man, your the best

  • @boatymcboatface666
    @boatymcboatface666 5 років тому +2

    AC/DC ,we just bought Phil Rudds restaurant here in Tauranga NZ. Great band, great upload !

  • @brockolea
    @brockolea 5 років тому +3

    For any guy lucky enough to play in a band I suggest learning the basics of your bandmates instruments,it helps a lot

  • @stipeur
    @stipeur 5 років тому +165

    Only a noob thinks that Ac Dc are easy to play. Great video btw

    • @jharsch3453
      @jharsch3453 5 років тому +27

      They aren't wildly difficult. Any musician worth their salt should be able to come in at the right point in a measure. A lot of people that cover ACDC don't know much about theory, so they don't cover the basics, like how to count the beats.

    • @AlejandroFloresmotorsport
      @AlejandroFloresmotorsport 5 років тому +3

      @@andresmontero7481 you are bullshit

    • @guitar864
      @guitar864 5 років тому +17

      ACDC is easy.. only noobs cant count basic timing lol.

    • @AlejandroFloresmotorsport
      @AlejandroFloresmotorsport 5 років тому +1

      @@andresmontero7481 this guy knows music theory 100000x more time then those noobs know

    • @AlejandroFloresmotorsport
      @AlejandroFloresmotorsport 5 років тому +5

      @@andresmontero7481 most of the guitarist doesnt even know rythym, speed and techniques is not the same as beat and timing

  • @calebox
    @calebox 2 роки тому +2

    I was primarily a drummer for 15 years, and it used to drive me crazy anytime we’d do a song in 3/4 and the guitar players would try to force it to fit in a 4/4 feel, so I started teaching myself guitar so that when they would keep messing up the groove I could grab their guitar from them and show them how the groove was supposed to go….and I’ve been addicted to guitar ever since. I barely ever sit down behind a drum set anymore.

  • @GarysBBQSupplies
    @GarysBBQSupplies 2 роки тому

    That you have respect for the bands you play clips of is evident to me. You don't shame them. Thanks for the clips I am learning.. slowly. But I am learning. Thanks Paul.

  • @user-of9ut1hd9q
    @user-of9ut1hd9q 5 років тому +3

    I’m surprised to learn I’ve been playing it correctly. I have a good sense of timing and even more so for a feel of the groove. I’ve even thought about taking up drumming because of it.

  • @Pannemat
    @Pannemat 5 років тому +18

    I paused at the college class-photo but I don't recognise you without the beard, lol.

    • @PaulDavids
      @PaulDavids  5 років тому +5

      Haha! I wondered if someone would figure it out!

    • @JammyGit
      @JammyGit 5 років тому

      I thought the front right hand side kid who's asleep?

    • @Pannemat
      @Pannemat 5 років тому

      @@JammyGit , oooh shit, good one!

    • @JammyGit
      @JammyGit 5 років тому

      @Pannemat - We won't know if it's a good one until he confirms or denies it 😆 To be honest I thought it could have been either of the 2 kids at the front who are asleep but I thought the kid on the right had more of a likeness to me....

    • @PaulDavids
      @PaulDavids  5 років тому +2

      @@JammyGit You are right, I'm the one at the right :) The other two dudes are still my mates!

  • @unchained_0177
    @unchained_0177 5 років тому +2

    TY for being so in depth !! Subbed

  • @rodshop5897
    @rodshop5897 5 років тому

    Bravo Paul, welcome back. I agree that getting the timing right is key, and I appreciate you giving us some better ways to play.

  • @C.SchitzPopinov
    @C.SchitzPopinov 5 років тому +4

    That was so cool of you to do the AC/DC overdub! You know, considering

  • @beastieboss6364
    @beastieboss6364 4 роки тому +4

    4:09 “those kids are tight” yikes 😬

  • @Or-Saar
    @Or-Saar 5 років тому +2

    I appreciate what u do soooo much! Cheers!

  • @tonymemphis72
    @tonymemphis72 5 років тому

    Such wisdom presented so eloquently...great job!