Can NEACE get KOREAN CHALLENGER??? *THE $350 COACH*
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I'd pay mid best 350 dollars for coaching, but hes gotta coach me over dinner and a movie
For 350 he will tuck you in at bedtime as well
Ready to get you mid beasted?
Couching *
its not the price that is the most fked up. Its the lying.
Ayooooo 🤔....
Man when Neace died first and came back to lane to just miss the whole wave killed me 💀
Yes, I was dying inside, he missed so many creeps
That was hard to watch
I'm 7 min in he's missing so many it's killing me.
that will be 350 pls
that was pretty bad. he must have been tilted
350$ for a couch is not bad, I would actually take it
Thanks for telling us you have terrrible money management skills, very cool 👍
@@williamowens2063 read it again
@@williamowens2063 Thanks for tellings us you cant even read a sentence 😂
Idk man they give them away for free near the trash all the time
give me 100 businessman, same value as neace coaching and u can save 250 that way
350 is kinda cheap for a couch tbh
I’m sayingggg
Depends on the size, material and quality but yeah, this doesn't seem like much
How is it cheap my friend
💀💀💀
Stop tha cap
I'd buy a couch for $350 just to have an extra one layin' around tbh
I don't like buying coaches, I prefer to adopt them
@@FABIOZITO11 yea but only buy couches people put them up for adoption for a reason
3:15 Neace farming. I wonder how loud he would've shouted on his viewer if he had witnessed that.
Neace farming like that in korea in diamond elo. Not bronze in NA different elo different region. Not comparable🤣
@@xoafallen6239 Bro what?? korean challenger minions are the same to farm as NA iron minions he was 1v0 XD
@@S7za72 Most intelligent Neace fan
@@xoafallen6239 it's even easier on Korea bc u have 10 ping max ur not making sense
@@xoafallen6239 i always wondered who would be retarded enough to buy his coaching until I encountered you, you're really the epitome of braindead
500500 is his new price for coaching after hitting hi elo Korea
actually his name mean "pay 500500 won" which is roughly 350$
😅😂😂
@@andrzejandrzej8520 Yep he's memeing because asshats who don't understand business wont shut up about the price. I had to google translate it as well and found it hilarious
Well now we know he will never hit high elo in Korea lol.
Can't believe there was no mention of the clusterfuck at 28:10 lol. Taliyah fails blastcone, then flashes into baron as zed gets executed.
lmao
If people just knew what escort they would get for 350 😂😂
LMAO
True.
hiv free escort
so true bud
Great use of money! Forsake your manhood, make yourself a criminal, and grab yourself an STD!
U are right, even neace said he wouldnt pay for his own coaching
midbeast: how is he 120 cs at 22 minutes?
queue early game neace farming under turret and missing nearly every minion
Fun part is when he auto E a minion, but the first auto goes to one minion and the E goes to another minion, making him lose both cs, then crits a third and loses that cs too.
3:18
Also his spacing is silver elo
Honestly I just wanna see Neace past Tarzans peak in Korea just so there's more drama LMAO, whether he gets carried every single game or not, it'll be hilarious to see
bro.. the comparison is unfair xd. Tarzaned.. no joke.. is actually a very high ranking player who is phenomenally skilled about the game.. almost everyone in league scene agrees on that.. the reasons that tarzaned told about not being able to get high elo in korea are legit...soo many people hate tarzaned.. and it is no surprise that he got target inted....i m pretty sure tarzaned could have easily easily hit challenger in korea..
@@akaabdullahmateen9983 there's no need to explain lmao, I just want lady luck to be on Neaces side to humble Tarzan's ass XD. Wouldn't it be hilarious
@@Vuongedge XD yes..u right >_
@@akaabdullahmateen9983 Ah yess! I'm pretty sure he could reach challenger KR too, thats the reason why he was hardstuck masters
@@akaabdullahmateen9983 cope
100% agree with your take on the pricing, if someone is willing to pay and knows what they're signing up for, it's not a scam. The way I understand it, Neace was only charging around 70$ for coaching a couple years ago, was getting too many coaching sessions, simple supply and demand.
When I used to watch him back in the day he’d literally give 1 coaching a month away if you were a twitch sub lol
Yes but u can't be an apologist to the extent that midbeast is. It is a scam because he falsely advertises as a challenger coach. He clearly is not a challenger player
I remember people losing their minds on asmongolds starforge pc price. But like no one put a gun to your head. Have some self control.
@@empty3102 yeah but that is different, you can see all the specs for the pc etc. before you make a purchase so you know exactly what you are getting. with neace they think they are getting a challenger level coach as that is how he has advertised himself. he is, however, clearly not challenger level.
@@arimabz exactly, he's lying about being NA challenger to boost the demand, it's not simply supply and demand, he's a scammer
He’s in Korea for around 2 years because of his wife’s job! So he’s got plenty of time to learn and climb
He won’t climb
wow what a cheap couch only $350? but isnt neace a coach lol
Midbeast has the most mature takes, couldn’t agree more
yes no, he purposefully tries to stay in the neutral zone where he cant get any backlash. Which isnt really wrong, but his off stream takes would be probably a bit different. I dont think a single person would be everytime neutral by coincidence or by being mature.
@@XIplupIX Not everyone is a reactionary weirdo lol. Most people that exist in the real world are pretty neutral.
@@OrphanCrippler1 as you see on Twitter UA-cam and etc thst is not true and yes there are neutral people but not to litteraly everything. What ever comes up he always takes the neutral side
@Philip Szafran Twitter is not real life lol. Thank you for proving my point.
@@OrphanCrippler1 you clearly having Not a neutral opinion is proving rather my point
Props to the commentator for telling me what is happening. A truly extraordinary display of commentating ability!
To be honest I don't even really care what elo Neace can personally reach. In regular sports the best coaches are rarely formerly best players. What makes Neace's coaching bad, imo, is the actual bad coaching, not his rank. He gives the most generic advice and his method of basically just backseatgaming a match and then calling it a day is nearly worthless for people actually wanting to improve. Nobody can play the game while basically being remote controlled via voice coms and also take anything meaningful away from that for the future. Props to him for the hustle, though. Who wouldn't charge 350$ per session if they could? He's built a brand that people seem to like even if I cannot see much value in the actual coaching, especially compared to other, cheaper coaches.
First sensible comment I have seen about the matter. Well spoken of you
Finally someone in the comments have a brain good job
True.
People are shitting on him because he claims to be a challenger coach, so his rank does matter.
the diff is that league coaching is often macro...which is what wins games. real sports coaching is more about training on weak parts of the athlete. a lot to do with micro if you will
3:10 challanger farming XD
wow, you just literally took his worst game to review. Wth, like literally you couldn't choose worse
Would've been immensely unpopular with the League clique if Midbeast reviewed a game where Neace carried. Midbeast acting coy here, but it's clear that he cherry-picked a game with the lowest KDA and CS.
Neace made it clear that he's not even taking this season seriously yet, just getting back into the swing of streaming games. Even so, every single player has had bad games you can go cherrypick.
I honestly kind of expected more from this Midbeast guy, but I see the clique is more important to him than being genuine.
@@tobyearth Funny how he talks as if he didn't know the result of the match. Clearly puts himself in a position "I am better than him, I am the authority here" It's bright as day, that he just wants to put him in a bad light, acting as "neutral". But why?
@@andrzejandrzej8520 Yep. With a channel dedicated to reviewing games, he presumably has a process for choosing which games to review. There were plenty of very recent games he could've reviewed. I would like to know, why this particularly anomalous one? And then to not even mention that it was an anomalous game? It's disingenuous, at best.
I swear this mans cs skills are iron at the highest, he’s so bad at last hitting it’s actually scary
to be honest, ive been watching his videos and he has helped me more than any other person and even the lol coaching people.
same. There's a difference between teaching mathematically correct fundamentals that would help you in a team environment the way the game is intending, and playing in a way that will win you games in low elo soloq. Its literally 2 completely different games.
Watching him farm murdered my eyes..and im casual 10 games per month player and i got to plat highest..now i just play to get gold for rewards and come back every 4-5 months. Tbh only thing people need to learn is what to do after a fight,tower,drake,inhib..
"but .. but hes a "coach" for $350 an hour!!!"
If you want to learn about objective control, I inhibs, and towers, that’ll be $350
"im plat highest"- flaming someone who at worst is a high GM lol, why do bots allways say the same thing, if you can only get 8 cs min in plat you would get 4 p/min in some thing like D3 Korea. Don't even like neace, but low elo players flaming him Will allways be crazy LOL
honestly ive watched neace play and have like 10cs or more /min this was probably the worst game for midbeast to pick
I thought neace faked a challenger screenshot or something
His wife is stationed in Korea, so he is there until her deployment ends. It's gonna be good for his skill level. I like Neace, and I watch a lot of his content. But I have always known his skill was rusty as hell. He spends probably 70% of his day coaching, and maybe 20% playing league himself, so I've always expected that his skill wouldn't be at challenger. Idk, I've always seen it as a "I've done it once" kind of claim. It isn't a lie that he has done it, nor has he hidden where he has gotten it in recent years. And as others and you have noted, his price point has come as a direct result of people booking him constantly. Its an effort to slow the flow of bookings so he has a life outside of coaching. As a business model, its perfectly fine.
That being said, I watch Neace for entertainment. But I watch Coach Curtis for improvement.
3:14 "Miss every creep when farming under tower. That'll be $350"
Hurst me while watching 😃
@@rammsteinfen1 It's like watching his bronze coachings
@bennwilliams Thank you mr MidBeast
350 is nothing compared to Tyler 1s 10k couch
Tyler only makes $210 a month…
@@foreverandalways4771 💀 💀
Neace lives in korea, because of his wife that is in the military. So he has alot of time to get this done.
now it makes sense, so she was deployed in south korea, most people got deployed to either germany or south korea these past months
from all your reviews, never cringed for the gameplay this hard
as always Midbeans, thanks for the video
I like midbeast’s take on coaches not having to be extremely high elo. I like to reference sports for example some of the best coaches have never played the big leagues and are phenomenal coaches meanwhile some of the best players ever in any sport more likely than not are not the greatest of coaches
Alex Ferguson is one of the best football managers. Incredibly successful.
He is also Scottish so very much wasn't very good at playing it.
I guess it depends how much he uses it as marketing material. If your claim to authority is being challenger then that’s being a bit disingenuous to your clients. If you just claim to be a coach and don’t really flex your rank then that’s fine
i like your example BUT
quite often in sports the reason those great coaches are no longer that good at the olympic highjump anymore is because they are 50 years old and their vehicle cant run the same
whereas in e-sports its like.. if the coach can sit down and coach he should able to sit down and play
@@SHERMA. I think the difference I’m trying to make though is that sometimes great coaches aren’t the best players but they are great coaches because they have patience for the people they are training and have some sort of an eye for the game. An example I like to use is like basketball where Gregg Poppovich never played pro basketball but is an All Time coach meanwhile one of the greatest point guards of all time like Steve Nash currently just got fired for being a horrific coach. Sometimes it’s more so that talented individuals just suck at coaching because they’re talented at the game and have no patience for people who aren’t as talented and don’t grasp the concepts as easily as them. For example Neace is able to coach and have patience for a player who has never touched the game and doesn’t have the understanding of the terminology that would be considered widely known by the League community like breaking down what CS is and why it’s important to have a lot of it and stuff like that. Meanwhile a coach like Tarzaned I feel as though wouldn’t have the patience or like understanding to explain the beginner concepts to someone who is new to the game.
@@GriefingGamer yea but your not considering the fact that in a ever changing game season by season a great coach has to be a great player, if he doesnt change with the times each season he will no longer be a great coach
whereas a great Olympic 100m sprint coach never has to deal with the adversity of the 100m sprint changing season by season
i was simply highlighting the fact you cannot compare esports coach to a sports coach
lets meet in the middle and look at something like chess, you could of been a great chess player back in the day and be a great coach nowadays... BUT if u stopped playing at 65 you would no longer be a great coach for those at the top because you wouldn't be putting the hours in as a player to understand the new openings and lines people are playing
in esports with seasonal changes to meta's and rulesets its not possible to be a "great coach" unless you actively being a great player
ofc you could still be a great coach in terms of moral, inspiration and motivation but thats a different topic
lets say neace stopped playing/watching/coaching and went and lived in a cave for 3 years and came back day 1 to coach someone, he wouldnt even recognize the items or the new champions or the new objectives, a great coach would fall gracefully due to not being around the sport
its a different story
I follow Neace since he was a child pretty much and I saw him personally go up to GM (it was like 5 years ago so maybe Masters) in Korea with the MuricanEagle account on stream, and he was there for like 60 days only...
He might not get Chall right now, but he has climbed high elo on several occasions...
yes and nobody says he cant get high elo in na or so. The hting is he claims to be a multi role challanger player and doubling down on it with fake screenshots of him hitting chall. So the entire point is not that he cant reach high elo (master or so) but that he is not a multi role challange rplayer which he claims and uses as advertisment for a long time
Honestly watching Neace's videos helped me climb in gold with a 58% wr in a month after being stuck in silver IV for 2 and a half seasons(not regularly playing every day). I wouldn't pay for his coaching, but at the same time arguing about his pricing is stupid. I'm not even saying there aren't better coaches around, but he is good at what he is doing, helping LOW ELOS climb. The highest priced products are not always the best, but most of times, they are good because they specialize in certain areas. Neace for me is a great low elo coach, and maybe, maybe he is a challenger level player aswell. But bitching about his coaching prices is like complaining that the store next to yours sells the same products at higher prices and in bigger volumes. If that is happening, there's must be a reason... I would buy a Tarzaned coaching, seriously, he is an amazing coach and an amazing player, but his personality is so despicable I'd rather stick to gold for life rather than pay him a single penny. Hell, I wouldn't have a coaching with him even if it was free. There's a big difference between being rough and being a total douche.
ehh id say its more akin to like beats headphones
They are more expensive and a lot of people think that makes them good. Same as if you looked up League of Legends coaching on google. Neace would show up, someone could see he has a lot of views and might spend the money for it.
Its happened before lol, a couple of people went into the coaching without prior knowledge and were super confused at why their coach was yelling at them.
Neace is a massive dick to people he coaches though lol, spends half the session yelling at his client and won't explain to them why their thought processes are wrong
Okay bro you could watch literally a plat coach and he help you reach gold lol wtf
Yeah I’ve learned a thing or two from neace well said bro he’s a likeable guy
Your local store can price higher because theres an inherent cost of traveling to a cheaper store thats further away. Finding another coach doesnt justify a 300$ mark up. Furthermore you know what the products are. The issue with pricing coaching arises from the informational disparity between the client and the coach. A gold player has a very hard time differentiating a d4 coach from a rank 1 challenger coach. Neace advertises himself as being a challenger player and the king of macro and has built an audience that further pushes that false narrative. When the consumer has no clue of the quality of the product they are buying the supply and demand argument goes out the window.
Market failures similar to this are why most sectors of the economy are regulated to some extent with higher regulation in areas where the negotiating positions are even more imbalanced.
I would watch Neace vs Tarzaned 1v1 in a boxing match for $350 anyday!
i eman on that one iud be scared for the guy, neace has been in the army
@@samuelallard141 yeah I take neace ANY day in a fight and as a bonus I would love to see Tarzaned get his ass beat
Tarzand is an emotional jellocup, Neace has seen live combat, easy win for Neace imo
@@ce8539 I've been playing league since early season 2 and through virtually all of it, Tarzaned has been a giant bitch lol. some people legit need to get bullied more, maybe he wouldn't be the way he is if somebody put the fear of God in this kid
I mean Neace would beat his ass ngl
Well he's not scamming anybody.
You can see how much he charges for a session, plus you can see his coaching quality on UA-cam. At the end of the day, you're the one making the decision to pay or not. He didn't lie and take your money. What niece is doing is not a "scam". Its more like rip-off because its so expensive.
Yeah it’s wild people complain
It's a scam if you didnt do your homework and investigated this guy.
@@fernandadias6266 , I mean if you are playing $350 for coaching in LoL and didn't bother to look up one of the most prolific content creators. $350 probably does not matter that much to you.
@@jmac8929 Well, there are always stupid people haha.
It would've been immensely unpopular within the "League clique" if Midbeast reviewed a game where Neace carried. Midbeast is acting coy here, but it's clear that he hand-picked a game with Neace's lowest KDA and CS.
Neace made it clear that he's not even taking this season seriously yet, just getting back into the swing of streaming games. Even so, every single player has had bad games you can go cherrypick.
I honestly kind of expected more from this Midbeast guy, but I see the clique is more important to him than being genuine.
@@MrMiddleKick couldn't agree more 👍
I'm surprised Mid didn't comment on how terrible this guy can last hit, jesus....
I was confused as well, but I think he didn’t even see it because he was talking so much
neace is getting hard carried by his team. this is how most of the games go.
Mid beast also sucks at csing so he probably feels for em
@@LoveYourself-318 being able to minimize mistakes and allowing yourself to get carried is a skill in itself.
and its honestly neaces strongest attributes as a player. this climb is showing he knows how to get carried to not do alot of dumb shit.
thats a part of macro that hes king as for sure.
@@raaseraphic yes but unlike neace midbeast gets crazy fed even when he is cs is dog water .
And we can't lie a midbeast that is behind is the best support. He beat toba back to back after all.
He lives there , he ain't bootcamping
That lvl 2 death sums up his skill level.
@@uhhhfrick9767 not you, a random, calling another random a random. The cringe is physical
@@uhhhfrick9767 mistiming lvl 2 by not looking at where caster minions are targetting and burning parry immidiately on nothing is not something to defend lol
@@uhhhfrick9767 you act like that was a small misclick. there are degrees of mistakes. that wasnt some small little misclick, it was a complete and total miscalculation and a failure to understand some of the most basic concepts of the game, the enemy hitting lvl 2 first and going all in. that level 2 play was pure dog sh it
@@uhhhfrick9767 rank doesn’t matter i’m 650 LP n i can tell u neace is trash
@@dn8632 could literally just be a lapse in concentration. I don't even like neace at all but I'd bet anything you're not as good as him. So why hyper focus on such a small mistake?
Whenever i watch Korean soloqueue climbs, the only person I think of is theBaussffs and his legendary climb there, and how he pretty much did better in korea than back home lol
Honestly I'm watching his CSing in lane and I'm dying on the inside
he is not good bro
neace made a video explaining his price a long time ago. when he charged 20dollars an hour, his schedule was always full, so he slowly increased it. and even at 150dollar an hour, it was still completely full all the time. so he just kept increasing it slowly until its no longer completely full every day
so he has such a demand that he has to up his price? thats dope and proves how much the man knows.
@@DRUKENHOBO yes
but of course he would be undermined by others
@@DRUKENHOBO I think he is generally a good coach. I think tarzaned is just mad that neace makes a healthy living doing what he loves, while tarzaned plays the game and seems constantly pissed off.
@@MrBlipman Usually a higher price would indicate better coaching but Neace only did it because of supply and demand. Guess Tarzaned was expecting his coaching to be perfect since he's charging so much
Yup thats how business works, even if youre a wedding photographer etc. He's just mad AF he built a successful business
he's only playing fiora and karma lmao
You should be challenger to play them budd , you cant even understand 🤪🤪
I tuned in to a stream out of curiosity and apparently hes trying to climb while learning new champs. So he's learning fiora and karma think he said that he played fiora in the past but never tried to learn her for real.
@@rishithapremachandra9911 hes lying. fiora is his Tryndamere replacement b/c she's op. and karma is a cheese pick to get carried with. he's a narcissist, he cant help but lie all the time
@@rishithapremachandra9911 he was legit coached by rank 1 fiora because he has money..
@@tristanoce5233 yea bro he got coached by rank 1 fiora and he tells his viewers... im learning fiora and karma in korea. and his fans r like holy fk dude neace is learning fiora in korea hes better than tyler 1
5:40 midbeast explaining everything in twenty seconds. Simple as that, supply and demand. It's business
ye but midbeast didnt know about him claming chall on a false screenshot.. thats why people including tarzaned are extra mad.
He said it's not a scam just because people pay for it. But he lies about his qualifications, and photoshops screenshots to fake being challenger... That's a scam by definition, you're misleading potential customers with falsified information
Well no because the controversy is about advertising "Multi role challenger" to attract supply. If you're not a multi role challenger like some believe then it becomes a scam. You can't fake your credentials to advertise a business.
If he is Multi role challenger then yes its supply and demand, if he's not then its a scam. What i saw on twitter its more about him not being challenger hence him trying to prove it in Korea. Not as "Simple as that.
@@stephanojenkins7636 Photoshoped photoe? Ahahahah
Dude online tools that check if a photo is modified tell its real
You must e big sheep
@@wnsjimbo2863 I thought so as well, but did a deeper dig into and there is a comparison between neaces photo and another challenger. Neaces photo is darker, which means it likely got resaved. His font tho, is the same bright color as the other photo and not darker as well and I take that to mean that the text have been edited. Was kinda disappointing
So many people want to crap on neace for his trades or farm, he's picked up a new champ to climb with instead of his mains and now he has to actually learn how to play the champ at high elo skill set.
He has 100s of games on flora lol....
League coaching is lowkey one of the biggest scams. How are you gonna pay 350 dollars a session to improve on a game that adds no value to your life. Besides that, you can just improve without buying a coach like most of everyone else.
13:13 he moved there I believe cus his wife got stationed in Korea like military things. Might be slightly off on that but pretty sure that’s how it goes so he lives there now it’s not a trip like other players were doing he’s there to stay for the time being so the only real constraint he has is that his coaching jobs come first.
Thanks mid beast for donating all the money to my grandma you’re the best. We love you ❤️
Fraud coach
350$ couch? must be a damn sale!
Idk, this whole thing is making Tarzaned look a lot worse than Neace IMO. Neace has the get-rude old school approach which definitely pisses some people off, I totally get it why some people wouldn't be into his schtick. That said...I've been at least aware of his channels for as long as pretty much any other lol tuber, and I've seen him go challenger multiple times. It has very clearly happened before, and the guy is clearly climbing in Korea right now. That right there makes the whole thing kind of come across as bitchy and weak, at least so far as someone is just coming at him saying he sucks at the game. I'd give props instead if Tarzaned was criticizing coaching style or something, and then showing immediately afterwards how to do it better. As it is...hate to say it but bitchy and jealous takes the day.
If what Tarzaned is going for is a WWE style fake rivalry (cough, cough) it's not landing. He should re-adjust his approach. Doing it like he is just risks driving traffic to Neace without gassing his own stuff in the process.
Tarzaned is mentally unwell.
Not sure what you are on about,every video i have seen from Tarzaned was focused on Neace's shitty coaching,while every video from Neace is focused on attacking Tarzaned as person,he spent entire video calling him poopypants,talk about being petty,if Neace wants credibility why not just do same thing Tarzaned does and go over his gameplay video and does analysis of it to prove his point?
And Tarzaned does explain the mistakes Neace makes when coaching,or are you expecting him to do something else?
@@Scarlet_moon. I guess that's fair, the 1st vid I saw about this was exactly that after all. I should have said that I didn't think he was actually coming at it in good faith. What i saw was him going after neace for not having one trick knowledge of a champ basically, which i thought was silly. It all started smelling like generic youtube content farming at that point.
He is not boot camping. He moved there for 2 years. Bc his wife serves in the navy and she is there for 2 years. So he moved with her.
Revenue management is not about what is worth or not, it's about what people are willing to pay. If he gets fully booked on his coaching hours for 350€/h, maybe he has to start to charge more for it.
I'm not going to get into the whole Neace debate too deeply, but some of the best coaches in the entire sports world were never elite players. Understanding the game, and more importantly being able to relay that to another person is much different than personally being able to execute those lessons in real time. I haven't been overly impressed with any of his coaching that I've seen, but I know he goes out of his way to interview and learn from one-tricks in order to get a better sense of their Champion.
So is he going to be able to teach Faker how to improve his game even more? Probably not, but 97% of the League player base is below Diamond, and those players can certainly learn something from Neace. Whether or not that knowledge is worth $350 is up to the player.
No that’s the entire point, a bunch of challenger players are calling him out not only for his prices, but also for the things he said in his coaching, which were totally dogshit calls
@@ThrlPhlpp I could find footage of every one of those challenger players making dogshit calls in their own games. Hindsight is 20/20. When you're coaching a silver player for one hour, you're not trying to teach them how to play like a challenger. You're trying to get them to even listen to a single thing you say and apply it before the time is up, so hopefully they can start to improve in the longterm
What annoyed me about him was during this whole thing he tried to spin it off like he was doing the community a "favor" by coaching and that he was giving back. Nah dude, this is your job. If you are being paid for it, it's not a "for the good of the community" thing. It's business.
@@abefroman2477 he didn't tho. grow up. It is his business and you would be better off minding your own instead of spreading lies.
Tarzaned trying to talk shit about anyone's personality is fucking hilarious to me. The dude is literally one of the most unlikable streamers I've ever seen.
Its such a weird concept for people to tell another person they can't charge a certain amount for their services. Especially when the person "charging too much" is putting in 8hrs a day for $350 an hour. The customers set the price, and they're clearly willing to spend tht amount. Maybe if these other top players decided to dive into coaching content they could charge the same. Noone would pay 350 for a Tarzan coaching because he's a douche.
Nobody gonna talk about 28:15 Taliyah flashes over wall, then immediately gets caught out by Kayn?
Glad I scrolled down to this one lmao
Being a better player definitely does not equate to being a better coach. Look at any traditional sport.
"Tarzaned gets heated on the things that he shouldn't"
What a huge understatement xD
High elo only in smaller regions? What NA is small now? He actually has screen shots of his rank achievement. Disputing it is silly cause he's had the picture tested professionally just to disprove haters. Tarzan is mad he isn't getting the same money. Neace is loaded because his followers know what he is worth and keep supporting him. There is pro players with similar pricings for their coaching's. They scammers too? I think he is going to surpass Tarzan by miles. As of today he is Diamond 2 and playing multiple roles not just top Fiora. Not to mention I'm pretty sure he could pick one of your bad games and point out lots of mistakes, same with Tarzan. This is pretty funny to be honest. Keep giving the man exposure though! ;)
He coaching is so high in demand that he raised his price which is totally fair in my oppinion. good for him
Hes high in demand caz he has the fake label of challenger on every role. I talked to two diamond people who bought coaching from him and they regretted ut fully
@@peterkezas8083 I’d regret spending a dime on coaching ofc they’d regret 350usd on this… no matter how good it is.
@@cocoearmuffs6207 saying this neace guy is a bit decent is heavily an overstatement
Honestly how he plays that lvl 1/2 and around kinute 13, and pretty much most of the game, he looks like a euw gold, 99 cs min 20.. but there must be better games or he wouldn't be Korea dia
Diamond 3 Korea is more than good enough for him to coach his low elo clients. If he did falsely advertise that he's challenger, then that's an issue. NA challenger would be crazy good as it is, even if inferior to other regions.
he peaked grandmaster never touched challenger in his life
@@user-qu8rh3ib4p He have been challenger on LAN, so that part is true at least
@@lindus9201 challenger in LAN is equivalent to platinum in NA.... its that easy to climb... if you plat in na go to LAN you will hit master bare minimum and challenger if you put in the hours
@@user-qu8rh3ib4p you know all this from what? Personal experience????
@@tobyearth lol just try it on a new acc u legit hit chall in like a month max
pay me for coaching im better than neace
Neace has helped me out a lot just by posting some of his coaching sessions on youtube
Why can't people understand we know about supply and demand that shit is middle school shit. What people are talking about is the fact he advertises as multi role challenger when he's never hit challenger. Imagine if midbeast advertised he beat dopa, which of course he has but hardly ever mentions this is just hypothetical, and we find out he has never played against dopa despite his channel saying so. False advertising.
I watched neace since season 5 when I became serious about climbing I saw him and Mr beast doing videos about dopa breaking down the laning phase he was also doing his own vod review all of his vod reviews where in diamond 1. I think he got chall on na but didn't upload games and stuff so tarzaned argument that he was duo boosted might be true. After watching neace I started watching ls free coaching on yt the diff between ls and neace coaching is huge. From ls I learned so much more its crazy. Also in 1 of neace previous vids he talked bad about ls but didn't want to say reasoning bcz of ls fanbase but ls only said that he didn't feel comfortable taking so much money from he's viewer's (he's coaching was 150) ls didn't say anything about neace but neace was slendering him a bit in the video where he is talking to one of his coaches(im not defending ls or anything he's a drama queen kinda but he's coachings are pure gold).
I understand that neace is coaching bronze silver gold players but he is just playing the game for them instead of playing for them he should ask them why did he told the student to go side lane for example what will that guy do when he goes in game without neace telling him what to do every second he needs to understand why is he doing certain things. If the guy is iron or somthing and plays with locked camera and levels with mouse and always misses cs he would tell him level with ctrl unlock camera practice farming in practice toll but if a student is gold or Plat he should explain why is he telling him to do certain things. About this video neace didn't play before this that's why he is missing cs making mistakes in lane his fiora is lacking mechanicaly cuz he didn't play still enough games to be good on fiora (this game he lost mindgames against Darius was waiting for parry first so he can secure the pull and get his 5 stacks neace w was to early. I played against gm Rene otp as fiora. he had pta and went lethality got 4 solo kills on him ( I was slow pushing into tower he gets close to last hit I r him he gets into tower range I get turent aggro but I still didn't used my w after turent started focusing me I q behind him to proc vital and then I insta used parry and block his w cuz waited till last moment to parry the matchup is diceded by one spell like fiora vs Darius, Rene, riven.. To explain better neace w early Rene waited next time same thing he goes for cs Darius engages he should trade with Darius a bit and imidetly running toward tower ( he must trade a bit so Darius doesn't get a free health advantage) so while he is running and kitting Darius ( all this time Darius is in e range) he legit needs to wait to the point until it would be trolling not to use his e( darius chased fiora from minions to tower fiora is 3 seconds off getting into turent range so darius is being forced to hook fiora parry it and imidetly can kill with ignite cuz they traded hp when darius engaged on fiora darius didn't get any advantage in lane that gives better odds that he will pull that second to try get bigger advantage or solo kill him and he's playing solo queue. But in like 50 games neace will play better for sure. THAT WILL BE 350$ I'M SO HIGH
I agree if he wants to do it and people are willing to pay him that then it is what it is, what doesn't sit well with me is the fact he claims to want to improve peoples game play and rank... But at the amount hes charging its pretty clear hes just in it to make money and really dosnt give a shit about you as an individual, especially given the way he actually treats people hes coaching. No way in hell im gonna pay someone 350/hr to shit all over me the entire time, I can get that for free anywhere .
Just my 2 cents .
Isn't tarzan a win trading bot?
ye hes a known clown
In terms of gameplay, there is no doubt tarzan is better than neace that is why the topic is about the prices since nobody can argue on that
if I had a nickel for everytime you mentioned beating Dopa, I'd have very few nickels because you mention it so infrequently
Good takes as usual. As far as Tarzaned is concern, first of all, he's always been a POS human in general. But more importantly, you don't charge for coaching based on our skill level. You charge based on your lead/client pipeline, which is mostly a combination of your marketing ability + your coaching ability (different than your actual skill). NEACE is a much better marketer and coach than Tarzaned is... so he can charge a lot more. It's that simple.
Is he streaming most of his climb or something? How do we know if it's actually him
My man has been afk farming the whole game and got like 5cs per min lmao
It's like people are being mad at simp for paying only fan. Like people need to fk off, if other people willing to pay the money then it's none of our business if it's legal matters that is.
drama is also because neace copyright striked tarzaned
after watching how many cs he is losing on the video, i don´t think i can reach more, his mechanics are really bad...
14:59 I assume his username means something like "one time 350$ payment" because 500500 won is around 380$ usd
Hahahaha that's actually pretty funny and great, if true
No you’re correct it is a meme about the $350 per hour thing
It is a boosted account.. him getting masters in KC is imposible.. his mechanics is about gold 2 in Korea
I want neace to hit challenger korea just cause of how much all the league streamers hate on him
Cause he sucks and his viewers don’t realize it because he portrays himself as something he’s not
who cares what tarzan thinks about anything. dude is just a mad little person that whines about anything.
3:16 I bet 100$ with yall that even my grandma can farm better than him in that situation
Neace better than all you scrubs commenting with the hate lol. Pay the $350 and get better.
Lmao the funniest part of the drama is Neace literally says he would never play $350 for his coaching. Hes been saying it for years
"The Snail Effect. You step on a snail, maybe that snail was gonna save your brother from terminal illness." 23:13
Idc about the Neace drama tbh but anyone who tilts Tarzaned like this is A-OK in my book
you may aswell sub to him at this point
Tarzaned is mentally unwell.
@@tristanoce5233 who?
I mean, Neace had 0 imapct that game, considering hes playing fiora and spent the entirety of the game splitpushing, you'd think he would have higher cs and draw more attention. He made a lot of mistakes where from the few videos Ive seen of him there would be steam coming out of his ears if it was one of his students. I think hes probably better as a coach than a player as you dont have to focus on your own mechaanics and you can watch the map and see all the little things
guys just look 3:16 350 for coaching btw xddd
It is obv he’s reading chat or interacting with viewers playing on autopilot and still better than most people
@@suzakucsgo neace fanboy detected
"u step on that snail, maybe that snail was gonna save your brother from a terminal illness" like what is this line lmao
I literally cringe while watching him cs…
You need to be able to walk the walk
He’s living there indefinitely because his wife is in the military and stationed there
Very mature take on the whole situation, appreciate it!🔥
People are very harsh to neace, he helped me get gold from diamond in a week! Guy is insane!
that CSing is disgusting. No shame to lose vs darius, but the way he miss EVERY SINGLE CS is sooooooooooo bad. Watch the first minutes its mindblowing
how can this guy play nidalee sup without anyone running it down in korea diamond? :D
@Midbeast Neace is living in Korea for the next 2 years. His wife is in the army and they were posted there.
So he’s got a decent amount of time to attempt the climb.
350$ is only worth for a coach that beat dopa but we never know who did
Have been thoroughly enjoying watching Neace shatter everyone's expectations.
bro hes diamond lmfao should be easy for multirole challanger
@@lowernineswitch wasn't T1 hard stuck diamond after being all roles NA challeneger.
@@lowernineswitch KR Diamond within ~ 80 casual games. We'll see what happens when he starts his real climb next season, won't we?
@@tobyearth These are high ELO bootcamp accounts, not your average 'new player' ones. Jankos on the same type of account, has played half the games and is approaching Grand Master.
@@BorisYankov I'm not sure I understand your point. No one said anything about Jankos. Are you implying Neace is comparable to a pro player?
for those who wants to know what neace username means its: "Pay 500500 won"
There is no way you pay a guy who has no idea how to play lane or farm. Csing this game was legit silver level, and hes even playing Fiora who is easy to cs with.
He peaked at Diamond 2 as of now and lost 9 games in a row, LOL.
I feel like neace is at least GM on NA but everyone is just jumping on the shit on neace bandwagon when hes actually just a good coach for every role who charges a lot of money because people are willing to pay it and they are happy with the result.
hahahah gm in s12 and you think thats good for a coach
No one is saying that he isn't Gm on NA, the problem is that he is constantly lying about being a challanger. And he is promoting himself as one. And his coaching is a lot of times just blatanly wrong.
hes not a good coach 4 every role tho. hes good at explaining macro for low elo and hes funny when he gets mad and yells at client. hes more entertainment that expert... he knows top lane. hes a good split pushing top laner. thats it. hes not that good at the game or that good of a coach, but he carved out a nice spot for himself on youtube.... hes a cringe liar but its ok to like his content. his fan boys think hes a god tho its fkn funny as hell
@@andrija3511 He claimed to be challenger in every role XD. Even Faker himself don't even dare to say that.
The thing is he isnt a good coach at all. The ppl that buy his coaching are mostly really low elo and dont understand what is good and bad quality coaching. There is a massive difference between Neace telling a silver when to recall and Veigarv2 or Bezum vod-reviewing a challenger player.
Did you hand pick the worst Neace game possible?