Well the austrians collapsed and the balkan front was full of entente forces, im guessing in this timeline the Italians just abandoned the entente after the fall of france, and the central powers were too exhausted to do anything about Italy, since austria hungary collapsed who was going to stop them taking dalmatia
@ Given that Germany and Italy (despite the war) were actually very good friends still, it’s safe to assume that with Germany being the only European power left in the Central Powers, they likely allowed Italy to take the land due to their close relations. Even in real life, Germany and Italy only declared war on each other in 1917, purely because Austria was losing to Italy and the Germans couldn’t risk losing their largest ally. Realistically in this timeline, I can see the Germans and Italians becoming friends once more, likely forming an everlasting alliance like France and Britain in our timeline.
Italians would have been smashed without the French, people from Croatia and Slovenia fought bitterly against Italians because Italy had territorial aspiration against them. My great grandfather was among those soldiers on Soča front, they were quite fanatical unlike on other fronts. I doubt that they would let go their lands so easily
@@lupus_lupi Okay, that’s great, but you just described how war works to me. Any one nation in that point in time would have been “Smashed” without allies. France would have been destroyed without the Entente, Germany would have lost immediately without the Central Powers, so forth. The fact of the matter is that whether you like it or not, the Italians were winning on the Italian front, with their first major setback being the battle of Caporetto, which was only lost by Italy due to the intervention of much better equipped and veteran German soldiers. Were it not for Germany’s intervention, the Austrians would have been pushed back eventually, and the war would have ended much sooner than it did historically.
@@HandOfWar Spain would be able to defend itself in Cuba and with low morale in the US, it would be able to land in Florida. After that, the US would have to pay Spain war reparations and Spain would keep its colonies. Also, it would rise and become a world power (it might get more colonies in Africa like Morocco or Cape Verde). Then in WWI, it would join the Entente because Spain had better relations with France. After winning the war, Spain could have gotten German Cameroon and part of Papua New Guinea (in addition to industrialization thanks to the UK and France).
US would have remained neutral in WW1 (so it wouldn't be a global potential). If you decide to continue with WW2, Spain would still be a monarchy and there would have been no civil war. Therefore, it would have joined the allies. At first, Spain would be able to defend itself from the Germans in the Pyrenees, but then, Portugal would join the axis and defeat Spain. Anyway, the allies would win the war and Spain would possibly make the Iberian union. (later you can decide if there is WW3 against the USSR, and if so, it could be unleashed by republican rebels in Spain).
Nah that would be impossible as the Qing empire had to fight against China, Tibet and Mongolia and later had to capitulate against China. That is how China was split up in communists, democrats, Ma Clique, Shanxi, Tibet, Guangxi, Yunnan, Tunganistan, Xinjiang Clique, Mongolia, Empire of Manchuria and the Mongol autonomus Government. The last two were puppets of Japan and Tunganistan got conquered and annexed by Xinjian in 1937. So, rather it would be a "What if Qing empire won AND joined the Central Powers?
Germany now has to secure it's front against the revanchist communo France who would have an Allie with Soviet. But Germany said "we can still count on USA, right right?"
Cuba, Puerto Rico and Filipinas they should be from a part of Spain. By losing the Civil War, the Unionists would not be in a position to begin their false flag attack and the territories would not be stolen (Remember The Maine, Revenge 1898) Edit: I do not want to detract from the enormous effort and interest on your part when creating this uchrony
@wotanvonedelsburg1610 they forbidden slavery after the confederacy had fallen, also my main concern is Europe which I like, because Germany wins and my homeland is on the winning side
@@einmensch-nt9si Germany would also have won in reality if the Balfour Declaration had not come into being and the pro-German America had remained neutral and the US citizens had heeded the warning of the Imperial German Embassy in the USA not to board supposed passenger ships heading for Europe. Because at that time it was already common practice to disguise weapons and the like as passenger ships. The Louisiana was such an arms transporter disguised as a passenger ship travelling to England.
Finally another classic HoW video! What do you think of the music in this one? And do you think the progression of history makes sense?
part 2 please
yeah tbh, it would make sense that the Confederates join the Entente considering that Britain was fairly pro-South even IRL
My thoughts;
Kaiserreich, but the United States is stable & has bits of Canada.
Part 2❤
3:10 this music is really good
Italy, who lost the war, gaining more land in Europe than in our own timeline.
Well the austrians collapsed and the balkan front was full of entente forces, im guessing in this timeline the Italians just abandoned the entente after the fall of france, and the central powers were too exhausted to do anything about Italy, since austria hungary collapsed who was going to stop them taking dalmatia
@ Given that Germany and Italy (despite the war) were actually very good friends still, it’s safe to assume that with Germany being the only European power left in the Central Powers, they likely allowed Italy to take the land due to their close relations.
Even in real life, Germany and Italy only declared war on each other in 1917, purely because Austria was losing to Italy and the Germans couldn’t risk losing their largest ally. Realistically in this timeline, I can see the Germans and Italians becoming friends once more, likely forming an everlasting alliance like France and Britain in our timeline.
Italians would have been smashed without the French, people from Croatia and Slovenia fought bitterly against Italians because Italy had territorial aspiration against them. My great grandfather was among those soldiers on Soča front, they were quite fanatical unlike on other fronts. I doubt that they would let go their lands so easily
@@lupus_lupi Okay, that’s great, but you just described how war works to me. Any one nation in that point in time would have been “Smashed” without allies. France would have been destroyed without the Entente, Germany would have lost immediately without the Central Powers, so forth.
The fact of the matter is that whether you like it or not, the Italians were winning on the Italian front, with their first major setback being the battle of Caporetto, which was only lost by Italy due to the intervention of much better equipped and veteran German soldiers. Were it not for Germany’s intervention, the Austrians would have been pushed back eventually, and the war would have ended much sooner than it did historically.
Skilled diplomacy on the Italian's side with the German hegemon.
Germany had to lock in for a minute there
ahhlewis approves
wouldve deleted the video if that wasnt the case
a guy who makes election predictions (but doesn't post them on UA-cam) also approved. @@HandOfWar
@@HandOfWar glazing is crazy
@@1AWEFMiklos Horthy is on his way to your house right now
@@etoadsworth8181 Good i support his cause
Epic Video! I enjoyed the idea of two wars + the post war stuff!
We need the second part!
i HAVE ONE IDEA! What if Spain won Spanish-American war? Please, I'm spanish i like your videos :)
Do you have ideas what could’ve happened afterwards
@@HandOfWar Spain would be able to defend itself in Cuba and with low morale in the US, it would be able to land in Florida. After that, the US would have to pay Spain war reparations and Spain would keep its colonies. Also, it would rise and become a world power (it might get more colonies in Africa like Morocco or Cape Verde). Then in WWI, it would join the Entente because Spain had better relations with France. After winning the war, Spain could have gotten German Cameroon and part of Papua New Guinea (in addition to industrialization thanks to the UK and France).
US would have remained neutral in WW1 (so it wouldn't be a global potential). If you decide to continue with WW2, Spain would still be a monarchy and there would have been no civil war. Therefore, it would have joined the allies. At first, Spain would be able to defend itself from the Germans in the Pyrenees, but then, Portugal would join the axis and defeat Spain. Anyway, the allies would win the war and Spain would possibly make the Iberian union. (later you can decide if there is WW3 against the USSR, and if so, it could be unleashed by republican rebels in Spain).
@@itor1450YT good idea!
I have an idea! Let China join the Central Powers in WW1😊
Nah that would be impossible as the Qing empire had to fight against China, Tibet and Mongolia and later had to capitulate against China. That is how China was split up in communists, democrats, Ma Clique, Shanxi, Tibet, Guangxi, Yunnan, Tunganistan, Xinjiang Clique, Mongolia, Empire of Manchuria and the Mongol autonomus Government. The last two were puppets of Japan and Tunganistan got conquered and annexed by Xinjian in 1937. So, rather it would be a "What if Qing empire won AND joined the Central Powers?
So, basically Southern Victory/Timeline-191 by Harry Turtledove. Great video!
Great that you liked it! Can you tell me a little more about the book series? I've never heard of it, but it sounds interesting
@@HandOfWarFind the mod, the world of a southern victory
-Germany: "we won... But at what cost..."
it cost everything
Germany now has to secure it's front against the revanchist communo France who would have an Allie with Soviet. But Germany said "we can still count on USA, right right?"
@@maestroLYTGermany would be the uk of world war 2
If southern won, it will make British great forever!
Holy shit bowser music?!?!
New super Mario bros Wii final boss music remix goes hard . Also great video.
If you know someone who could also like the video, please share, as my channel is dead rn 🫡
this is an amazing video! thanks!
Good Vid, if you get to do a second part, I think it would be a perfect scenario to put Mosley in Charge of the Uk.
A timeline where Ulysses S. Grant dies in battle.
Kentucky is known
is that bowsers theme from super mario bros 2
Yes
u should do one where america takes canada
6:08 what is the song?
All in the description my guy
Part 2? Could be fun with a communist block and the reichspakt fighting in ww2
Depends on the performance of this video
Cuba, Puerto Rico and Filipinas they should be from a part of Spain. By losing the Civil War, the Unionists would not be in a position to begin their false flag attack and the territories would not be stolen (Remember The Maine, Revenge 1898)
Edit: I do not want to detract from the enormous effort and interest on your part when creating this uchrony
Italy gaining more land despite being on the loser side 👍
Part 2
aint no way csa on entente biggest L
Yeah, great Idea. Can next video be about what if whites won the Russian revolution ❤❤❤
It will be great!
FiRsT
Yeah, i would like to live in a world like this
Who slave is allowed?
@wotanvonedelsburg1610 they forbidden slavery after the confederacy had fallen, also my main concern is Europe which I like, because Germany wins and my homeland is on the winning side
@@einmensch-nt9si Germany would also have won in reality if the Balfour Declaration had not come into being and the pro-German America had remained neutral and the US citizens had heeded the warning of the Imperial German Embassy in the USA not to board supposed passenger ships heading for Europe. Because at that time it was already common practice to disguise weapons and the like as passenger ships. The Louisiana was such an arms transporter disguised as a passenger ship travelling to England.