Does Trey ever raise the flop with 9 high or 8 high diamonds against 4 players. I don't believe so. When you get called on all streets on this board Trey has to know that Xuan likely has a flush, and there is nothing that is stopping her from having the Q or J of diamonds. So its a spot where no one would ever bluff. If he's not bluffing and he wouldnt three bet the flop with an 8 high flush draw, it has to be value. But this is always so hard to figure out in game.
Even his hand is prob not supposed to be check raised. 6x of diamonds prob makes the most sense as a c/r as you block 66 combos and may be able to get a K to fold sometimes. Also some 45d, 57d type hands. If that’s accurate, which I’m not positive, he would have several lower flushes in his range. Now he may not go bet/bet turn river for so large with those so it comes down to specific opponent tendencies
The way the guy played the hand, what could he possibly have in this spot, other than queen high flush? Remembering he raised the flop, he could maybe have KQ off with the queen of diamonds. That's it. Too specific. Not an easy fold, but fold it is.
As a minor gambler. I've given cash to people to make it harder for me to spend and also borrowed to gamble just out of ease and no worries in regards to pay.
why do some people tank so long??? after a few minutes make a decision ...if you have to think for 4,5,6,7, plus minutes then play smaller stakes cause tanking this long means your overthinking and most likely playing above your stakes
Unrelated but over the weekend I was so pissed because I had the nut flush (Ace) but the guy I was up against happened to have a straight flush and went all in, and I called him. Baddest beat I ever gotten. And i had pocket aces on top of that, lol. Unbelievable
@RiverRat6996 what do you mean by a 4 Liner? It was 2 and 8 of hearts on the flip, 7 of hearts on the turn, 6 on the river. He had 10 9 hearts. He had the flush on the turn because there was a 2 of hearts there too, but he got the straight flush on the river. I had pocket Aces. I had the nut flush on the river, so that doomed me
@@pridemyselfwithnontrolling5230 No one can blame you for calling, but with 4 flush cards out there, do you think he would shove without the Ace or better?
@avengingblowfish9653 if he had a king or queen it's possible, plus we both checked on the turn. And straight flushes are so rare, I think most people don't even think about them
I’m sure she’ll get a backer and or mommy and daddy money. It’s the world we live in, the hardest part of that game you’re watching is the money to sit down in it. Not the skill, please and I mean please remember that.
What a terrible spot for Xuan, and she absolutely needs to make the call (and receive the bad news). I do not think Trey is ever bluffing here, but she is 100% right that he could have worse flushes there given he raised the flop with a naked non-nut flush draw. If the turn diamond was not an ace folding would be more realistic, but what combos can Trey have that beat Xuan? QJdd, J8dd, and Q8dd? Tough hand.
Xuan almost always has a very good hand when she commits money. I don't understand why she gets so much action. Personally i would avoid playing a lot of hands vs her if possible
I thought Xuan was a pro. Apparently, she doesn't know how to read body language. 5:22 Plus, you don't want to shuffle your chips. When you shuffle your chips there is high chance of making a call.
@@jamespohl-md2eq i get it i just think its stupid. just increase the blinds if you want a 100k buy in stack. should i go to my local 1/3 game and buy in for 10k? that would be ridiculous
@@mikeryan5856There is no reason to thinks it’s stupid. Thats just emotion. If you don’t like deep stack that’s fine. But pretending it’s bad or wrong is just dumb. And, it creates way more action. It’s a STREAM.
It is a no brainer, cause if she knew what type of player he is, she should believe that he has the Q high flush. I don't think he would of pushed all in with lower diamonds. She should fold and player another hand.
Kudos for tanking that long but to be quite honest sometimes in poker you just have to pay it off even though you feel like your behind because, in reality, you are never ever folding the 3rd nut flush that is not a 4-Liner... But on a side note, the beautiful Anastasia deals the sickest beats of any dealer at the Lodge, I truly LOVE HER!!!
@@vecter Not at all man. I’m actually creating my own solver. But it’s not easy to make a flush, there are literally no spots where going “all-in” doesn’t make sense. It’s math.
@@vecter I can understand why you would think that, but even that flush is very tough to make, less than 1% chance. I’ll show you my solver sometime, it will help clarify these plays for you. 100% you should shove with even a 2 high flush.
@@enricopallazzo3244 I don't believe your solver. What makes you believe that your solver is GTO? I bet if you put that spot into GTO Wizard, it would NOT say you should shove 100% of the time. You're also not looking at conditional probabilities and ranges of a villain reaching a river on a board with that.
We have to stop giving people credit for tanking when we know they have to call. The best chess players in the world concede three moves in if they know they can't win. But, from a war game perspective, he either had 2-4 of diamonds, or Jack-queen of diamond, because she had the the ten and nine. If you're going to take that long, at least figure out he has the queen high flush. No one's bluffing with an ace and queen on the board. But still, we all knew she was calling. Think long, think wrong.
If you don't know anyone who doesn't lose money there, then you only see and know about idiots. I would easily lay down there But then it's just calling stations these and crazy Bluffs. The only thing that is displayed. Something about reading the other one does not exist. Absolutely pathetic. I still have a hand and I can't put my hand down. These are just playing their cards. This is not poker with good players.
This may be the very first time I've ever seen Efan win a hand. But, nothing to really give credit for....he won it against the only player he might have a slight edge over. Edit- If Tesla actually tried to win the hand on the river with an all-in, Efan couldn't have called. Tesla betting a measly 15k into a 60k pot lol 😂
I just love how all these poker players from the USA sponsor WPT Global, yet you cant play from the USA
Xuan is Canadian.
a lot live in canada
In Michigan we can play on some sites...not sure about WPT Global though
They can play in some states just not all
can from Neveda
Thanks. ✌🏻👊🏼
"Efan would do anything for Xuan."
Buddy, I'd do anything for Xuan 😂
Beggars can’t be choosers
you sound like quite the lonely, desperate loser
Does Trey ever raise the flop with 9 high or 8 high diamonds against 4 players. I don't believe so. When you get called on all streets on this board Trey has to know that Xuan likely has a flush, and there is nothing that is stopping her from having the Q or J of diamonds. So its a spot where no one would ever bluff. If he's not bluffing and he wouldnt three bet the flop with an 8 high flush draw, it has to be value. But this is always so hard to figure out in game.
Even his hand is prob not supposed to be check raised. 6x of diamonds prob makes the most sense as a c/r as you block 66 combos and may be able to get a K to fold sometimes. Also some 45d, 57d type hands. If that’s accurate, which I’m not positive, he would have several lower flushes in his range. Now he may not go bet/bet turn river for so large with those so it comes down to specific opponent tendencies
Seeing Xuan go into the tank for a long time is great because you get to see Xuan go into the tank for a long time.
Tesla folding top pair??? What's going on.
Rick and Mike make me laugh so much sometimes . . .:)
Are they father and son? Their voice is very similar.
Calling this a "NO Brainer" fold when you can see the cards and Xuan has the 3rd nut flush when we can see the cards is Idiotic and beyond arrogant.
I think its called sarcasm mate
right third nuts in the hand and its an obv fold is ridiculous...99.9 of people are calling that
Also you could fold instead of cold calling the raise on the flop with your T high flush draw. I m just fking saying.
3rd nuts in a 1400bb pot....not saying it's an easy fold, but not many people sticking out 30k river bet with worse
The way the guy played the hand, what could he possibly have in this spot, other than queen high flush? Remembering he raised the flop, he could maybe have KQ off with the queen of diamonds. That's it. Too specific. Not an easy fold, but fold it is.
She could have gotten away on the flop considering the action.
Wow
Glad to see the BINGO player loose the last hand!
7:08 min.: I would have folded. It was obvious that he had a Flush with the Queen of Diamonds.
They look and sound like the heaviest chips?
Xuan always running into it :(
I wonder how much money they borrowed from other people to play poker😂
Sounds like a salty, irrelevant comment. Go back to 2/2 limit rookie
Everyone and I mean everyone is playing with mommy and daddy money.
@@nollieRRlet me guess, playing with mommy and daddy money too( aka backers or literal)?
As a minor gambler. I've given cash to people to make it harder for me to spend and also borrowed to gamble just out of ease and no worries in regards to pay.
@@TheLeftReallyWeirdMo is playing w mom and dad’s money?
Think more. Post less.
why do some people tank so long??? after a few minutes make a decision ...if you have to think for 4,5,6,7, plus minutes then play smaller stakes cause tanking this long means your overthinking and most likely playing above your stakes
I snap fold there.. these "pros" are hilarious 🤣
go away
Unrelated but over the weekend I was so pissed because I had the nut flush (Ace) but the guy I was up against happened to have a straight flush and went all in, and I called him. Baddest beat I ever gotten. And i had pocket aces on top of that, lol. Unbelievable
Rip
Was there a 4 liner to the straight flush?
@RiverRat6996 what do you mean by a 4 Liner? It was 2 and 8 of hearts on the flip, 7 of hearts on the turn, 6 on the river. He had 10 9 hearts. He had the flush on the turn because there was a 2 of hearts there too, but he got the straight flush on the river. I had pocket Aces. I had the nut flush on the river, so that doomed me
@@pridemyselfwithnontrolling5230 No one can blame you for calling, but with 4 flush cards out there, do you think he would shove without the Ace or better?
@avengingblowfish9653 if he had a king or queen it's possible, plus we both checked on the turn. And straight flushes are so rare, I think most people don't even think about them
I thought Xuan said she broke
She did!...my heart
I’m sure she’ll get a backer and or mommy and daddy money. It’s the world we live in, the hardest part of that game you’re watching is the money to sit down in it. Not the skill, please and I mean please remember that.
I can be her "daddy".
@@donmacquarrie9161 so stupid
What a terrible spot for Xuan, and she absolutely needs to make the call (and receive the bad news). I do not think Trey is ever bluffing here, but she is 100% right that he could have worse flushes there given he raised the flop with a naked non-nut flush draw. If the turn diamond was not an ace folding would be more realistic, but what combos can Trey have that beat Xuan? QJdd, J8dd, and Q8dd? Tough hand.
Easy fold. His tells were pretty obvious
Tesla's a real dip shite sometimes! 🤣 I loved Efan's call, what a player, I aint taken no shite from you Tesla! 😁👍😎✌🗽
Moment of silence? Not with these yappers
At least Airball was not there, even with very high pots he's sometimes shouting.
@@elih9700 😂
Who's the blonde dealer ?
🤣😂
Pamela Anderson
Taras's wife.
@@xavierharding8938 He wishes 😂😂😂😂
Would of been great to be at the table where it would be ok to stair at her beauty the whole time and not creep her out.
she ain't that pretty.
If only Xuan knew to put 10-9 suited into her 3b pre flop range. Then she would avoid this spot.
juan lou is a legend
Xuan almost always has a very good hand when she commits money. I don't understand why she gets so much action. Personally i would avoid playing a lot of hands vs her if possible
I thought Xuan was a pro. Apparently, she doesn't know how to read body language. 5:22 Plus, you don't want to shuffle your chips. When you shuffle your chips there is high chance of making a call.
his betting was an even bigger tell
Tesla was like i am calling up to 230k
Other players talk too much - they need to shut up…..
Betting 1/3 pot on the river is always a mistake, on that last hand. 1/2 pot or higher always no matter if for value or bluff
Can you explain why?
love you long time Xuan....so sexy boom boom....lmfao
Oh yeah, she love me long time 😝
such a loser, sad you think you're funny
i dont get why these guys play 2000 big blinds deep.
I don’t get why you don’t get deep stack poker.
@@jamespohl-md2eq i get it i just think its stupid. just increase the blinds if you want a 100k buy in stack. should i go to my local 1/3 game and buy in for 10k? that would be ridiculous
@@mikeryan5856There is no reason to thinks it’s stupid. Thats just emotion.
If you don’t like deep stack that’s fine. But pretending it’s bad or wrong is just dumb.
And, it creates way more action. It’s a STREAM.
@@jamespohl-md2eq shorter stacks create more action. More folds or all ins. Deep stack poker you just get nits or maniacs
@@mikeryan5856You just made my point. All ins and folds ain’t interesting. It’s like home runs or strikeouts.
13:20 what's with the lack of excitement for these commentators? Such an action river and such a flat tone..
The dealer is so beautiful!!!
It is a no brainer, cause if she knew what type of player he is, she should believe that he has the Q high flush. I don't think he would of pushed all in with lower diamonds. She should fold and player another hand.
EFAN calls with a pair of 4s... everyone knows TESLA is too loose.
Yeah Xuan kinda have to call. She technically only loses to one Combo QJD if she has 98D or anything lower maybe I can see a fold
Kudos for tanking that long but to be quite honest sometimes in poker you just have to pay it off even though you feel like your behind because, in reality, you are never ever folding the 3rd nut flush that is not a 4-Liner... But on a side note, the beautiful Anastasia deals the sickest beats of any dealer at the Lodge, I truly LOVE HER!!!
Too much tanking. Unwatchable. This game needs a 60 second shot clock.
tanking is part of the game.
@@brandonsmith666It doesn't have to be
If you have a flush, you should always go all in.
fish alert
@@vecter Not at all man. I’m actually creating my own solver. But it’s not easy to make a flush, there are literally no spots where going “all-in” doesn’t make sense. It’s math.
@@enricopallazzo3244 If you have the 2c on a board with four different clubs, you should not always go all in every time in that position[
@@vecter I can understand why you would think that, but even that flush is very tough to make, less than 1% chance. I’ll show you my solver sometime, it will help clarify these plays for you. 100% you should shove with even a 2 high flush.
@@enricopallazzo3244 I don't believe your solver. What makes you believe that your solver is GTO? I bet if you put that spot into GTO Wizard, it would NOT say you should shove 100% of the time.
You're also not looking at conditional probabilities and ranges of a villain reaching a river on a board with that.
tough but it's a fold. he's not doing that with 8 high flush!
She should stop playing poker and get back to what she does best .. being eye candy!
We have to stop giving people credit for tanking when we know they have to call. The best chess players in the world concede three moves in if they know they can't win. But, from a war game perspective, he either had 2-4 of diamonds, or Jack-queen of diamond, because she had the the ten and nine. If you're going to take that long, at least figure out he has the queen high flush. No one's bluffing with an ace and queen on the board. But still, we all knew she was calling. Think long, think wrong.
Easy to say all this when you aren't in the spot for a $23k river shove.
@@CP-ud6rtI agree. My only issue is with giving people credit for taking a long time.
"The best chess players in the world concede three moves in if they know they can't win." No chess player resigns three moves into a game...
That should have been an insta fold from Xuan. Don’t know why she took forever to even call. Bad play 😝
It was a "no brain" fold for Xuan. What else could he possibly have? You have seen him play.
If you don't know anyone who doesn't lose money there, then you only see and know about idiots. I would easily lay down there But then it's just calling stations these and crazy Bluffs. The only thing that is displayed. Something about reading the other one does not exist. Absolutely pathetic. I still have a hand and I can't put my hand down. These are just playing their cards. This is not poker with good players.
It's hard to understand what you're trying to communicate
@@vecter google translator.
This may be the very first time I've ever seen Efan win a hand. But, nothing to really give credit for....he won it against the only player he might have a slight edge over.
Edit- If Tesla actually tried to win the hand on the river with an all-in, Efan couldn't have called. Tesla betting a measly 15k into a 60k pot lol 😂
EASY FOLD for me
3rd nuts? and a easy fold? Yeah, you’re tighter than shit in poker. Stick to 1/2 or smaller bud
no one asked, no one cares
Easy fold to be honest
❤
Tesla definitely improving his game after hundreds of thousands of dollars burned away
same with Airball