for me, I use solar titan w/one eyed mask. Weapons are either the last word but mainly the malfeasance , the midhas reckoning, and the trials Heavy GL. This loadout is wonderful for me because the solar titan allows me to be aggressive but also has some healing. Consecration can demolish bubbles and Well users, one eyed mask for those lovely overshields, midhas is my favorite fusion even with the slow charge time the range/damage are fantastic. ... but the star for me is the malfeasance. w/ the catalyst its really a wonderful primary . 3-4 hits to kill someone is very manageable, but if youre at a longer distance most people will peek out of cover to challenge you but if you land that 5th hit the bonus damage will kill them regardless of the distance or if theyre in a well.
Got an Igneous a few weeks ago when it was the rotating maps. Polygonal, Ricochet, Fragile Focus, Golden Tricorn, Range MW, and Stability Mod. 100 range with Fragile up and 68 stability. Is an absolutely insane roll, especially on controller. Was upset when I didn’t get Keep Away, but after playing with it for a week or two, I honestly wouldn’t change a thing about it.
Mainly a PVE player but wanted the Riptide. Just recently been playing Supremacy and loving it. This video is great for what weapons I need. I'll have a look in the vault and see what I've got. Thanks for the video.
A long time ago, when desperado was still the no brainer on any high impact pulse, I got a rapid hit kill clip messenger. I kept it cuz the synergy, but good lord am I glad I still have that. You really can’t lose a gunfight with kill clip activated.
I have a Bottom Dollar with Slideshot + High Impact Reserves. Haven’t really tested it but that might bypass the nerf to 120’s 2crit1body just like Precision Instrument.
Im currently using Ikelos submachine and my god its good. I win duels consistently with it at medium and short ranges. For longer ranges I like Mida multitool for keeping the radar or the messenger depending on the map.
I'm trash at PvP so my opinion probably doesn't count for much but here are the weapons I am using and enjoying. Firefright (AR, 450rpm) - Fragile + Adagio Cryosthesia 77k (SA) - Exotic Heliocentric (SA) - Heal Clip + Kill Clip Fang of It Yute (ScR) - Keep Away + Precision Instrument Necrocasm (AR, 600rpm) - Exotic
Wasnt Target lock only nerfed on Submachine guns? I believe it wasnt touched for auto rifles which is why I thought it was really strong. If not thats genuinely wonderful to feel like I shouldnt be stuck on getting it. Opens up other fun options!
the perk itself didn't get nerf for ARs. It's more so that bc of all the heath and body shot dmg change I don't feel it's as needed. it is still a good perk. I just personally value other perk.
@Daltnix I see! Totally makes sense, k. paper excited to give a few rolls myself a try and see if I feel the same way you do. genuinely appreciate the response, thanks for all you do!
Haven’t played in 2 years I reckon maybe longer and most of the weapons I used to use are back in the meta or still meta. Was expecting all my old weapons to be useless coming back. Happy to be rocking DMT but a little disappointed there’s not many cool new weapons to go after
I highly dislike auto rifles, and I think HCs (even igneus) feels kinda off in crucible rn. So hyper aggressive sidearms play it is. Double Sidearm (Forerunner and Seventh Seraph Si-2) with sentinels shield throw is just really funny
Great and informative video! Question: You have unending tempest on the thumbnail but don't talk about it. I have found it to be pretty good. What's your opinion?
it's very good. With more time in the sand box it's probably better than adjudicator. I will probably be doing an updated video a week or two after the update. most likely, it will be on the list lmao.
What roll do you have ? I have one but the range is only 32. After looking on d2 foundry it seems like I’m only missing out on almost 2 meters compared to a max range roll
@@christwalken12 I have 5 rolls, still looking for Kill Clip, Heal Clip. I have Heal Clip / Incandecent and Kill Clip moving target both have 47 range. Max range isn’t super important IMO. The difference between 40 and 60 is like .7 meters. So I’m happy w 47 range just want the Kill Clip / Heal Clip for instane kill chaining.
@@christwalken12 so my new combo w Helio is Unending Tempest OR Autumn Wind with the Harmony perk. You have 3 seconds to swap from the Helio after a kill. So if no one is in Helio range for Kill Clip, swap to your Harmony weapon. Btw Helio is farmable is Solo Lost Sectors, I’ve been getting one to drop every 2-3 runs. Another hack is Helio gives you 20 Mobility so I always keep it out to get my dodge back and then I can put 20 more stats into Recovery.
Just discovered you. Good vid bro. I agree 100% with the list. We are back in a double primary sandbox. Doesn't feel near as bad as Year 1. But yeah 450ARs , 340 pulse , 600 and 720smgs are straight up dominating. But yeah great list bro🤘🤘🍺🍺
I feel like people are definitely sleeping on coldheart, divinity, and ticuu I personally don't have div, but one of my friends has over 3k kills on it despite getting it just about a month or so ago, and it shreds glaive shields, people around corners, and pretty much just anything that moves. Coldheart absolutely melts everything, including titans behind barricades, well, roaming supers... and Ticuu is still really nice with getaway artist, since if you hit a body after sacred flame, it would normally leave them with just a bit of hp, so the arc soul can clean up.
also, the BXR: blunt execution rounds is so slept on, due to it straight up doubling your damage for one burst after just a melee hit at close range, which means sadly cross map throwing knife won't proc it, but voidlocks can just use their powered melee and one burst, provided at least two are headshots. (I have yet to test this after the health change, though volatile procs after 200 total damage so it should still work)
except the adjudicator is nowhere at all. It is an ok gun with decent stats and perks, but I would recommend unending tempest anyday of the week over it.
I don't understand why do you recommend headseeker on pulses but not target lock on ARs as they're both considered perks that provide forgiveness, they're not lowering ttk.
I think the reason why is because, with target lock, if you miss one shot, the perk is all but useless. With head seeker, you don't lose the perk with a miss and all you need is one bullet to hit the body. It's much easier to proc.
Dmt is gonna rule pvp again in the final shape since they will buff it's rpm to 140 when firing from the hip. But they're nerfing the ranger where aim assist kicks in
getting the adept osiris weapons is too difficult.. you need at least too much money (getting a good pc or a console with the last dlc) and being lucky with the teammates you get..
sunshot can't 3 tap most resils right now. so it's probably one of the worst guns in the game right now. when they fix it, then it will be pretty good.
Probably in everyone’s vault. March 5th update nerf’d the accuracy for snipers. You add that to the fact that special ammo is hard to come by especially in trials then you realize using a sniper is a more risky choice, when you can just use shotgun or fusion for guaranteed kills. But I still use cloudstrike just for the smile it gives me when I kill 3 450 autos holding hands
00:24 - #14: Ammit AR2
01:05 - #13: No Time to Explain
01:56 - #12: The Summoner
02:43 - #11: Hawkmoon
04:01 - #10: Prospector
04:52 - #9: Ace of Spades
05:40 - #8: Conditional Finality
06:27 - #7: Positive Outlook
07:22 - #6: The Messenger
08:18 - #5: Adjudicator
09:18 - #4: Centrifuse
10:16 - #3: Vex Mythoclast
11:25 - #2: Dead Man's Tale
11:59 - #1: Igneous Hammer
Note that this is not in a specific order other than igneous. Igneous is the best.
@@Daltnix also note that weapon number 10 is not prospector at all.
Yessss
@@sutnack7537 oops, typed it as I heard it but didn't notice what the gun was actually named, thanks
@@Daltnixthorn better ‼️
Nice quick breakdown with zero fluff or filler. Subbed
Oh dang, dude, I remember subbing to you when you had like 200 subs and no commentary just sick clips your contents insane now keep it up :)
Thank you!
I have a zen moment/ kill clip Positive Outlook, and it’s been one of my favorite PVP weapons lately.
I’ve been using Firefright (FF, Adagio) with Duality in supremacy. Super fun combo! Newer sub here btw. Keep up the good work!
Threat Detector/FF and Elemental Cap (Void) is pretty decent on it imo. Definitely an underrated auto.
I mained my old Igneous with Overflow + Celerity, but with the special ammo changes (no more green bricks on the floor) overflow just became useless.
Sturm & Drang feels extremely strong currently! Been having a lot of fun with it + the two tap feature from the drang kill makes the Sturm feel great
for me, I use solar titan w/one eyed mask. Weapons are either the last word but mainly the malfeasance , the midhas reckoning, and the trials Heavy GL. This loadout is wonderful for me because the solar titan allows me to be aggressive but also has some healing. Consecration can demolish bubbles and Well users, one eyed mask for those lovely overshields, midhas is my favorite fusion even with the slow charge time the range/damage are fantastic. ... but the star for me is the malfeasance. w/ the catalyst its really a wonderful primary . 3-4 hits to kill someone is very manageable, but if youre at a longer distance most people will peek out of cover to challenge you but if you land that 5th hit the bonus damage will kill them regardless of the distance or if theyre in a well.
Got an Igneous a few weeks ago when it was the rotating maps. Polygonal, Ricochet, Fragile Focus, Golden Tricorn, Range MW, and Stability Mod. 100 range with Fragile up and 68 stability. Is an absolutely insane roll, especially on controller. Was upset when I didn’t get Keep Away, but after playing with it for a week or two, I honestly wouldn’t change a thing about it.
Been watching your vids and love your hunter builds. Been trying out just about all of them.
Mainly a PVE player but wanted the Riptide. Just recently been playing Supremacy and loving it. This video is great for what weapons I need. I'll have a look in the vault and see what I've got. Thanks for the video.
I usually run adept Burden of Gult and Summoner. Really good for medium and close range in 6s. In 3s I use Cold Denial and The Keening.
Another Cold Denier! We seem to be popping out of the woodwork recently…
@@ringomandingo1015 the gun has been popping off since the zoom changes. Even before that I loved this gun
A long time ago, when desperado was still the no brainer on any high impact pulse, I got a rapid hit kill clip messenger. I kept it cuz the synergy, but good lord am I glad I still have that. You really can’t lose a gunfight with kill clip activated.
I have a Bottom Dollar with Slideshot + High Impact Reserves. Haven’t really tested it but that might bypass the nerf to 120’s 2crit1body just like Precision Instrument.
I've been rocking the old Ringing Nail in quickplay and loving every minute.
Pls list your build and how to use it as shown during the Messenger gameplay.
Super helpful video, thanks. Don’t sleep on heal clip and onslaught with the summoner. It slaps.
Been using the bray tech werewolf with zen movement and multi kill clip with it masterworked in range. The thing is an absolute monster
The biggest thing with Target Lock is not the ttk-shifting, but the resilience gating.
Im currently using Ikelos submachine and my god its good. I win duels consistently with it at medium and short ranges. For longer ranges I like Mida multitool for keeping the radar or the messenger depending on the map.
Dang, didn't know Prospector turned over a new leaf, from a GL to an AR xD
😂
Great vid! I was wondering why you didn't mention target lock on the summoner tho? No hate just curious
it only shifts the ttk on low resil. I feel the other perks are overall just just better. it's not a bad perk. it definitely has its value.
If talking about HC it also has 2 option as Fatebringer and Nation of Beast
I'm trash at PvP so my opinion probably doesn't count for much but here are the weapons I am using and enjoying.
Firefright (AR, 450rpm) - Fragile + Adagio
Cryosthesia 77k (SA) - Exotic
Heliocentric (SA) - Heal Clip + Kill Clip
Fang of It Yute (ScR) - Keep Away + Precision Instrument
Necrocasm (AR, 600rpm) - Exotic
I'm lucky enough to have a precision instrument hammer but man it sucks the way 140s feel my Austringer was my go to and it feels horrible now.
What perks would you want on summoner anno people hype up target lock but assuming kill clip or golden tri are good?
Wasnt Target lock only nerfed on Submachine guns? I believe it wasnt touched for auto rifles which is why I thought it was really strong.
If not thats genuinely wonderful to feel like I shouldnt be stuck on getting it. Opens up other fun options!
the perk itself didn't get nerf for ARs. It's more so that bc of all the heath and body shot dmg change I don't feel it's as needed. it is still a good perk. I just personally value other perk.
@Daltnix I see! Totally makes sense, k. paper excited to give a few rolls myself a try and see if I feel the same way you do. genuinely appreciate the response, thanks for all you do!
I like my plug 1 adept with 100 range, under pressure and backup plan. It has always felt amazing and the mapping people is just evil
Ty for this video man :) been out of the game for 4 months lol
Haven’t played in 2 years I reckon maybe longer and most of the weapons I used to use are back in the meta or still meta. Was expecting all my old weapons to be useless coming back. Happy to be rocking DMT but a little disappointed there’s not many cool new weapons to go after
Nice list for LongRange weapons, I pair them with shotgun or:
Drang, Immortal for Hunter
Lumina for Warlock
UnendingTempest, Shayura for Titan
I highly dislike auto rifles, and I think HCs (even igneus) feels kinda off in crucible rn. So hyper aggressive sidearms play it is. Double Sidearm (Forerunner and Seventh Seraph Si-2) with sentinels shield throw is just really funny
Great and informative video! Question: You have unending tempest on the thumbnail but don't talk about it. I have found it to be pretty good. What's your opinion?
it's very good. With more time in the sand box it's probably better than adjudicator. I will probably be doing an updated video a week or two after the update. most likely, it will be on the list lmao.
Right on that makes sense. I'll definitely be catching the vid.
Great video just subscribed thank you
I got zen moment and tap the trigger on prosecutor and it's been feeling really electric
i think round robin is atleast top 5 for strand hunters because u can get 80+ ae at all times and 100 after using grapple
I am going to assume you meant prosecutor AR not Prospector (which is what you said).
I'm 10 resilience, and being melted by igneous, didn't know it was all about that perk... When i need more range i keep going back to my Disparity
No Time to Explain's catalyst makes the buddy much better. definitely worth getting
Helio qcs KC, HC is the best weapon in the game. I’ve also been running w Malfeasance and absolutely nuking from range
What roll do you have ? I have one but the range is only 32. After looking on d2 foundry it seems like I’m only missing out on almost 2 meters compared to a max range roll
@@christwalken12 I have 5 rolls, still looking for Kill Clip, Heal Clip. I have Heal Clip / Incandecent and Kill Clip moving target both have 47 range. Max range isn’t super important IMO. The difference between 40 and 60 is like .7 meters. So I’m happy w 47 range just want the Kill Clip / Heal Clip for instane kill chaining.
@@christwalken12 so my new combo w Helio is Unending Tempest OR Autumn Wind with the Harmony perk. You have 3 seconds to swap from the Helio after a kill. So if no one is in Helio range for Kill Clip, swap to your Harmony weapon. Btw Helio is farmable is Solo Lost Sectors, I’ve been getting one to drop every 2-3 runs. Another hack is Helio gives you 20 Mobility so I always keep it out to get my dodge back and then I can put 20 more stats into Recovery.
I found breakneck if funny becaus 450 lol but I just can’t get behind it because it has so much visual shake it kinda hurts it 😢
Fantastic list
What campaign do you have to complete for no time to explain?
Just discovered you. Good vid bro. I agree 100% with the list. We are back in a double primary sandbox. Doesn't feel near as bad as Year 1. But yeah 450ARs , 340 pulse , 600 and 720smgs are straight up dominating. But yeah great list bro🤘🤘🍺🍺
Can’t get a prosecutor for shit I keep getting armour pieces from the first encounter of prophecy dungeon
I feel like people are definitely sleeping on coldheart, divinity, and ticuu
I personally don't have div, but one of my friends has over 3k kills on it despite getting it just about a month or so ago, and it shreds glaive shields, people around corners, and pretty much just anything that moves.
Coldheart absolutely melts everything, including titans behind barricades, well, roaming supers...
and Ticuu is still really nice with getaway artist, since if you hit a body after sacred flame, it would normally leave them with just a bit of hp, so the arc soul can clean up.
also, the BXR: blunt execution rounds is so slept on, due to it straight up doubling your damage for one burst after just a melee hit at close range, which means sadly cross map throwing knife won't proc it, but voidlocks can just use their powered melee and one burst, provided at least two are headshots. (I have yet to test this after the health change, though volatile procs after 200 total damage so it should still work)
Ah yes ace of spades is in there ofcourse. Keep up the great work.
if you put god roll guide in title was not expecting exotics as they have a curated roll but good vid
Do you think the Adjudicator is better than Unending Tempest?
yes
People are sleeping on tigerspite. Fragile Focus and Kill Clip goes crazy
deadmans tale + drang on solar hunter its pretty fun tbh
how does the immortal currently feels like in pvp ?
Good vid! Subbed
Why not use target lock on summoner?
Heliocentric, traveller’s chosen and rat king go dummy hard in this sandbox.
Summoner is a 600 RPM not 450
I used Seventh seraph handcannon with explosive rounds and I was doing better than usual
Have you tried necrocasm? I've been hearing some quiet noise around it and was gonna try it myself.
900 rpm is good when u reload after a headshot kill but the range is really bad. That's why it's not meta.
Jorums Claw is like my favorite gun in the game
Thanks for the info!
Why not target lock on summoner
Comp pulse doin really good imo.
I think shayura wrath is up there with the adjudicator.
except the adjudicator is nowhere at all. It is an ok gun with decent stats and perks, but I would recommend unending tempest anyday of the week over it.
@@viseshism their stats are actually very similar but Unending Tempest is easier to farm
@@juhaojanpaa Yes. And I personally feel it has better hit reg.
Prospector auto rifle is better with dragon fly and volt shot
i went to twitch and it says ur last stream was 20 days ago?
I normally stream on Mondays. But I have been really busy. Should be back to it this week tho!
I don't understand why do you recommend headseeker on pulses but not target lock on ARs as they're both considered perks that provide forgiveness, they're not lowering ttk.
I think the reason why is because, with target lock, if you miss one shot, the perk is all but useless.
With head seeker, you don't lose the perk with a miss and all you need is one bullet to hit the body. It's much easier to proc.
@@TheMadRacer1997 such as headseeker, missing a shot won't grant you the two bursts kill
Dmt is gonna rule pvp again in the final shape since they will buff it's rpm to 140 when firing from the hip. But they're nerfing the ranger where aim assist kicks in
There is no Autorifle called Prospector :'D You are even showing the Prosecutor. Timestamp says Prospector aswell btw
I’ve been abusing cryo for a while now scared if it gets popular it’ll get a nerf
its pretty balanced overall.
Bro enhanced gunshot straight a sleeper pick little to no aa penalty and way more body dmg
I love DMT so much and am happy when it's meta but I completely understand it shouldn't be lol
Were are thorn and rose 😔
Prospector???
is rufus' fury still any viable?
Rufus is very good!
have you tried the forerunner
? :)
I have! it's good, along as the people you are playing have lower than 8 resil.
@@Daltnix if u are radiant it s always double tap even with tier 10:) ( so 4 kills per ammo refill )
I love hawkmoon and i try to play better, ur video are very helphul for me.
I dont know man. No rose on the list?
this list is 2 months old. check the new one. it has rose on the list
No mention of any rapid fire pulses is a bigger sin than the nailing of Jesus to the cross wow
It's Prosecutor brother! Prospector is the GL 😅
Day 3 of asking for Solar Titan with Consecration and precious scars… also, solid vid
Target lock is still really good on ars
You said prospector instead of prosecutor. Just fyi. Thanks for the video.
You’re not getting 1 vs 4 every corner you turn 😮😮
wht is bro on abt
@@uuuu-m6c bro hasn’t played destiny before
@@uuuu-m6c bro doesn’t know what I’m on about
@@uuuu-m6c bro is getting a little too silly like what I said isn’t 99% of the 6 vs 6 experience
@@uuuu-m6c that’s it. Bro isn’t sigma🤬
I believe target lock is still a tier on AR’s. It was only needed on SMG’s
Auto rifle metaaaaaaaa I love it
getting the adept osiris weapons is too difficult.. you need at least too much money (getting a good pc or a console with the last dlc) and being lucky with the teammates you get..
Thorn?
love thorn. But it's definitely not a top option right now.
@@Daltnix wat.. i thought it was OP, with the catalyst?
@hhaste even before they neft the catalyst, it wasn't op. It's an okay pick but not an op one by any means
Revision zero is also broken asf rn
that shit is fire, headshots go hard.
“Bred “ Pit
this new meta has me on float lock with no time heliocen, i cbf with special ammo most times, and i can cover all ranges pre much
Sunshot?
sunshot can't 3 tap most resils right now. so it's probably one of the worst guns in the game right now. when they fix it, then it will be pretty good.
messenger over belisarius?
100% high impact frames are definitely better.
Messenger is way better than belisarius.
K but now we need to know the worst guns. Just to watch out for them.
Rose with ep :(
Prosecutor*
wheres cloudstrike
Probably in everyone’s vault. March 5th update nerf’d the accuracy for snipers. You add that to the fact that special ammo is hard to come by especially in trials then you realize using a sniper is a more risky choice, when you can just use shotgun or fusion for guaranteed kills. But I still use cloudstrike just for the smile it gives me when I kill 3 450 autos holding hands
We are plaing slow? my god im the king of noobs them
I was unsubscribed sorry D😅
So was i? Crazy!
Sturm :)
Adjudicator is over rated
Totally agree and I have a max range godroll. Unending Tempest with max range and moving target is better