How to use WWScenics Static Grass and Pro Grass Applicator Range
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- In this video, Martyn puts our Pro Grass Static Grass Applicators to the test. Showing you all the techniques to achieve the most realistic landscape, by just using static grass glues and applicators.
This is Martyn's tried and tested Demonstration, having done it for years at shows like Ally Pally, Doncaster, Peterborough, Newark, Salute, Warlord Games and many more. This demo is a typical OO gauge, and shows how to use the products listed below. We hope you enjoy the video and please like.
2mm Basing Grass
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Basing Glue
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Layering Spray
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Pro Grass Applicators
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I'm making a diorama of a scene in Wales for my mother,she's 50 years in Ireland but she's still speaking your beautiful language so great to hear the greeting
That sounds great. Love to see it
@@WWSCENICS keep ye posted..it's of the church at Mwnt beach where a few of our relatives are laid to rest..my overly ambitious plan is Mwnt beach itself
Great review , I,m saving my cash to buy one + all the other bits & bobs .. I have a 8x 2 ft rough area & woodland to make so this will be a great help .Thankyou .
@@stevenperry7493 make sure you post some pictures on our Facebook group.
Late to the party I know but just getting started after a 40+ year brake. Static grass blew my mind and the Pro Grass Box even more so. Going to give that one a go with my handmade trees. Loving the products and the streams etc.
Sold on me!! Great fan of WWS products and just about to buy my first static grass applicator. This is definitely going to be the one for me. Greasy video easy to follow 👍👍
Thank you for your kind words and support. I hope you enjoy the app. Make sure you send photos to the group 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@@WWSCENICS Likewise I just ordered this product, my very first static grass applicator as well. 👍
Fantastic I carnt wait to get mine cheers the next thing I need is the static box
Great video and products but is there really any need for the music
the pin craft is insane !
Thank you
@@WWSCENICS actually looking for buying in your shop ^^
There is very useful advice in this video, such as not needing to put the clip on a nail or in the baseboard. However the microphone is distorted, even though it seems to be quite an expensive model. Even worse, you have put loud music over the dialogue, making it very hard to hear properly. I have just bought my applicator before watching this video, luckily.
I shall address this in the new year. Thank you hope you enjoy the app
Thank you excellent.
Great video guys but please for those of us that are hard of hearing tone down the background music as cannot hear the speech thanks
@@IanWheller-rv4zi thanks for the feedback. I no longer use music there is a far better video for you to watch. It’s the PGLS or Pro Grass Layering System. A lot better.
Thanks
Martyn
Great tutorial, about to start on some big scenery sections and have a starter kit, i bought years ago. As per a previos comment what was the 6mm grass that was used (layer 5) ?
@@nicktroth1871 the 6mm is your finishing grass. It can be at the end if you want.
Perfect demonstration of your brilliant products Martyn. Well done.........Question... Is there any merit in developing a clip on the hopper which is near the screw on lid....for snap clipping the crocodile
tweezer on.. It then becomes a one handed application of grasses...It might sound gobbledegook, but I know what I`m on about. Lol
That sounds like a plan. I’ll see if I can develop a clip on clip.
@@WWSCENICS Maybe bend an oval nail into a 'U' shape. Solder it to the mesh, clip the crocodile clip onto the nail. Job done !
Was thinking the same thing
Good!
If ive used woodland scenics fine soil/grass stuck with pva, can i just go straight on top of that with layering spray and static grass??
Hi. Yup it will also look awesome if there are raised bits. The grass will follow the bumps.
Are the plastic glue used for the first layer and the spray adhesive the same product just different applicator?
The spray can is a very fine spray adhesive, the basing glue goes first then the layering spray afterwards.
@@WWSCENICS Thank you!
what was the 6mm grass you used please?
Interesting demonstration but WHY would you have music playing over your voice at times I could barely hear your explanations. Really distracted from the presentation.
Agreed. We are planning on revamping them all.
@@WWSCENICS that’s great because the demos themselves are really good 👍👍
Can the spray be used on the tufts to make several heights?
Yes
Especially for N-Scale I can really recomend the Pro Grass Detailer. You do not need more than 6mm Grass because it is already near 1 Meter high grass. For big areas or base I have another applicator. The hopper is really small ;). I bought it for the purpose to get grass nicer at the foot of a mountain but I also like to make aditional layers or also base layers in several spots. This way tooks much longer than shown here with the layering but for me I can better detail the grass. But everybody has to find his way I guess. The detailer makes a lot of fun and I love using it. I can also recoment the colors patchy and dead grass. They blend well with Noch and Woodland colors and give new colors to the Layout.
Thanks I’m really glad you like our products. And using the layering system. You should sow us on our FB group
Good video Martin BUT please move your microphone off the table. Too may thumps and bangs.
Could you do a video on the 'Snow'. I do 1:35 scale diorama's and would be interested to see how it performs and appears. on a completed base. Cheers
Already sorted that. Got a tripod and it’s now in front of the desk off the desk.
As it happens I’m doing a few vids on all our colours. Just to show the range. And what goes with what
Excuse my ignorance although to you experts it's probably laughable but.....what is the clip used for, what does it do? I have a lot to learn before I start my village.
The clip is the positive end of the app. So the closer it is to the hopper the better it will work
Ah great thanks
Recently purchased a micro applicator from yourselves and it doesn’t seem to work. I’ve added a 9v battery. Turned it on and followed the steps shown and the grass still lies flat. Cheers
Have you contacted our customer service. They will be able to help
Do you know when you will have more layer spray glue in stock? Can only find it on ebay but they are charging stupid delivery fees.
Hopefully it's due in this week once it's in we will post. Out on SM.
@@WWSCENICS Ah great, I'll keep an eye out.
Is the machine meant to squeek when you turn it on?
Squeek. No it should not make a noise at all
@@WWSCENICS my model I’ve just bought kinda squeals like a high pitched sound when it’s turned on
@@jogonyachickennugget4911 mmm 🤔 you might have to get in touch with our customer service team. It’s not meant to make a noise. It might be arcing on the side of the plate.
@@WWSCENICS okay thank you. I’ve sent a message to eBay team as I bought from there.
@@WWSCENICS and the noise terrifies me cat 🤣
Mine sucks what’s the longest grass it will dispense
We have 6 in the range. That can do 1mm up to 12mm. With the pro grass grand
2 things? First, can basing glue be used for tufts and secondly does screen size matter?
It can. But will not be self adhesive
And the other. It all depends on what grass size you use most. If your small gauge like N then yiu will use small grass so having a 10 12mm screen will be no good. Our Pro Grass Micro has a standard screen. Which is slightly to big for 2mm and Slightly to small for 6mm. But you can use it. Hope that helps
@@WWSCENICS thanks for the reply. I do n-scale. I have 2mm grass and up (for reeds etc). Do you sell different mesh size caps for the pro model?
@@bluwtr we do 3 heads for the pro grass grand. The micro only comes with one. It’s the standard size. The Detailer comes with two. But same size mesh.
Sorry, but I was mistaken. I actually have the Pro Micro. Are other heads available for it?
@@bluwtr no sorry
Can adding additional 9V to each other increase the static charge?
Not really. And you shouldn’t need anymore power. For what the hobby uses them for 15kv is good enough. I have never failed to make grass look great from a 15kv app.
@@WWSCENICS Thanks for the speedy response!
@@jeremiahwasabullfrog957 hope it helped.
Getting posh! 3 cameras! Mr Spielberg 😉
Yes. Trying to be. I think the lighting needs sorting now. At least Tim can’t moan about the sound now. Not with my Yetti mike 😂😂😱🤪
😂😂😂 I did think that about Tim, I did have to turn my brightness up but not the end of the world! 👍🏻
@@TheCraigShawShow I did think of that. I’ll get josh on the case.
Shipping it back
You obviously are having trouble with static grass. If you have done the test and it works. Then it has nothing to do with the applicator. They either work or they don’t. There is no In between. There is a common mistake that modellers make. Is that there is no glue, which will cause the grass to fall flat.
I do not have any info as all you have said you are shipping it back. If you contacted our Customer Service they would have helped you with the problem. Hope this helps
@@WWSCENICS why is it you always blame the customer
Can’t ship it back as I live in Canada .That says it all, Amazon Canada.
If you tell me the problem you are having. I can help try and rectify it. I am not blame the customer, I am trying to give you some advise. The proper way to get things sorted is to contact our customer service, and they would help you. If the app is faulty then we would replace it. But there are tests you need to do first so we can establish if it is faulty. If it is not faulty then it is down to the way it is being used. Please let me know the problem and I will be happy to help. You are speaking to Martyn. The owner of WWScenics and the designer of all 6 static grass applicators.
Sorry. My personal email is Martyn@wwscenics.com if you want to contact me direct
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Looks like a great way of grass application. Just wish he would get all the "gravel" out of his mouth so this Texan could understand what he is saying.
Ah my lovely welshness. Lol.
Sorry, but it looks terrible... i like the wait to dry process and shaking off the excess...its much more realistic that way.... who is in a hurry?
How do you shake it off if you have a layout ? You can always hoover when done . Looks alright to me
What’s the point of saying “sorry it looks terrible” just don’t reply
Sorry you sound like a twat
See what I mean
It’s a film on using our applicators. Not on static grass. I can assure you that I can produce the most realistic grass with our products. We are the leading company for static grass. And our Pro Grass Layering System has help a lot of modellers to understand how to use static grass. Every modeller is in a rush to finish their scenery in our experience. That’s why we developed the PGLS to aid them.
Thank you for your comments. Each to their own I suppose
That’s the way I’d do it, no need for drying times!
I vac off 1:40 after every layer collecting unused grass! Never had any issues!
How does it look terrible Mate?
Sorry, don’t agree with not using PVA. I’ve used it for years with static grass and it’s amazing
We advise not to use a rubber based glue when using static grass. You need a solid structure to work from. We have had lots of modellers complain about PVA.
Also if you have only ever used PVA how can you compare. If you email us with your postal address. I will send you a sample of our basing glue. And you can then see for yourself how superior it is to PVA.
Thanks
Martyn
@@WWSCENICS yes to sell your product
@@Sidequestsexsploringwithpaul It is factual what we say about PVA. It is a rubber-based glue, that is meant for the building trade. not for modelling. The reason it takes so long to go off, is to try and stabilise the glue when it dries, to slow the shrinkage.
You have your opinion I get it, but we advise against it .As most of the of the time, and I speak from experience, As I have been working with and developing static grass for 15 years. PVA is not a good glue for static grass.
When I started using static grass 4 years ago I used Pva!
I then found out about basing glue. I found this to be a game changer.
The difference between my pva fix and the basing glue is worlds apart.
The grass with pva is no where near as stood as the basing glue!
Now everyone is entitled to their own opinion but all I can say is just try it! I think you will be surprised!
Regards Craig.