Celtic Tribes Gangani & Deceangli
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Covering two tribes here but there's a reason.
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The Gangani and Deceangli were warlike Celtic tribes that were situated in the extreme north of modern Wales, where late Iron Age tribal boundaries were even more uncertain than in the rest of Britain. Probably late third wave Celtic arrivals (unlike their neighbours), the territory of the Gangani was on the Lleyn Peninsula, while the Deceangli territory comprised of north-west and north-east Clwyd and northern Gwynedd. The latter tribe was concentrated mainly around hill forts, with a string of them dotted along the length of the Clwydian Range in the eastern part of their tribal territory, from Moel Hiraddug and following along the eastern bank of the river. Another possible fort was at Dinas Dinorwig overlooking the Menai Straits. The Deceangli also possessed a principal tribal centre at Canovium (modern Caerhun in Gwynedd). This was never developed into a tribal capital by the Romans. (See the map of most of Europe's tribes around the first centuries BC and AD to view the tribe's location in relation to all other Celts.)
The tribes appear to have been split between Ireland and Britain. While in the latter they were called the Gangani and Deceangli, directly across the Irish Sea their cousins were the Concani or Gangani (in the region which later formed part of Leinster). It seems that they may have first settled in Ireland and then migrated to western Britain by the first century BC at the latest, as the name 'Lleyn' peninsula seems to be derived from Laigin, the older form of Leinster.
It seems possible that the Gangani were a sea-mobile tribe. These had a tendency to travel by water, which would explain their presence in both Ireland and two areas along the coast of North Wales. If they were indeed sea-mobile, there was a good chance they were third wave Celtic arrivals, similar to the Belgic tribes in the south and east of Britain (notably the Atrebates, Belgae, Cantii, and Catuvellauni). Once settled in Ireland, part of the tribe migrated again, to the Lleyn Peninsula. It seems that after this, perhaps only shortly before the Roman invasion into the country, the Gangani in Lleyn appear to have divided yet again, with a splinter group heading eastwards. This group came to be known as the Deceangli, and sooner or later they found the Ordovices tribe intruding between them and their brothers in Lleyn. This is how both parts of the tribe were ordered and settled when the Romans came across them.
To back up this assertion of continued migration and splintering, the Deceangli name has a 'de-' prefix which means 'from'. This strongly suggests that it was the Gangani who migrated from Ireland to Wales, and that the Deceangli were an offshoot that itself later migrated further east. The remainder of the latter's name, '-ceangli', certainly appears to have the same root as the Gangani name. At the end of the first century AD, Tacitus himself records the tribe as the Ceangi or Decangi (translations from various sources differ). However, 'Deceangli' would seem to be their real name, as backed up by several later Roman inscriptions. The Gangani name would seem to link to the modern Welsh 'cangen' (canghennau, cangau, f.) (n.), meaning 'branch' or 'bough', from the proto-Celtic *kankī-, also meaning branch. Maybe it was linked to the mistletoe cult practice?
(Information by Peter Kessler, with additional information by Edward Dawson, from The Oxford History of England: Roman Britain, Peter Salway, from Atlas of British History, G S P Freeman-Grenville (Rex Collins, London, 1979), from Histories, Annals, Tacitus, from The La Tene Celtic Belgae Tribes in England: Y-Chromosome Haplogroup R-U152 - Hypothesis C, David K Faux, from Celts and the Classical World, David Rankin (1996), from Geography, Ptolemy, and from Roman Britain: A New History, Guy de la Bédoyère.
This was an awesome read 🙂
If Gangali and Deceangli was the same tribe at one point. Maybe Deceangli means South Gangali. Because in modern Welsh De means South. But I really dont know if the British Celts used that term.
I’ve been waiting for this one!!!!😃
Yes,Gang-gani would be how I would pronounce it…I am from county Clare where the name is also recorded on the first map of Ireland ever printed by the Greek Ptomney…my feeling about the Gangani tribes was that it was the other way around,they first came to Wales and then Ireland…but your theory is also possible…hard to know…interesting to note that there is a Gangani river and valley in India…side note…you tend to over worry the pronunciations…I would advise prompt cards (with pronunciation assistance written beside the actual word) or if you don’t want to say the word then show it to the camera…sorry to hear you were unwell and glad you are feeling better…thanks for the video…really interesting
You know what’s worse I have a teleprompter but never use it as I don’t like reading scripts. I do almost everything in one take from memory only breaking if I’m not sure of a detail. I have an out there hypothesis about something connected to India. Going back to the early Indo Europeans a protoceltic culture existed now people smarter than me where language is concerned have come up with connections between these early root cultures between the proto Celtic and Hindu cultures. The hypothesis is that they both branched off from the same culture or are related somehow. I’m still reading about it myself and it’s a pretty new idea but it’s definitely thought provoking. Of course this would be going very far back into prehistoric periods where proving anything is difficult. Their basically linking cultures that predate the bell beaker culture of the Bronze Age that was here in Western Europe before any Celtic influence was felt.
I have a stage name Gangani…the character in my profile photo…an old Druidic bard…bodhran,poetry,songs and jaw harp to honour the indian conncection…I would love to know more on your hypothesis…everything is connected 💚👍🏾
It could also be that we are both right…and the later Irish “invasions” of Wales were just the Irish cousins visiting the grandparents 😆😂
What about the Demetae? I haven't seen you do them yet, and the Parisii I think.
Hmm I just checked that, I have done the Demetae, but not edited it because I’ve been sick 🤦🏻♂️ I’ll get it finished. The Parisii are the last tribe in England, I think I have yet to cover, might be another too. They are coming
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C is always a K in Celtic languages.
Gangani, who came from India.
Deceangli is pronounced Dekee-Angli. The Gangani are pronounced Gân Ghani.
Caradog is pronounced Karadog, one syllable not two. His name would have actually have been Karatakos and pronounced Kara ta Kos.
c in a Celtic language is always a k sound.
Oye, glad u dinna speak, Yankee Doodle Dandy!) Eye see much more "unity" among People of the Bear coat!))). U see maps with tribes names, we saw the same eyes, noses, heads?) DNA POV, from south to final rest atop stone slap at Inverness! "print the Legend=His-$tory" we r our brothers Keeper"= Her-$tory!)+1