PLEASE NOTE, everyone! This is just a guideline (some strategies) to get started with your ME-50 or other related BOSS product or multi-effect unit. (IE. The amount of Compression I dialled up for this demo is higher than I would typically use. Some may want no Compression, others will want more. I would probably regularly set my Compression on this pedal at around 9 O'Clock). All the best in your experimenting! Never settle for the "pre-sets". Get "into the guts" of your pedals. Trevor
@@arviolinist5019, any multi-effects pedalboards or rig of separate effects will work well with the 1/4 inch plug-in. Check out my demo here: ua-cam.com/video/q9OBoYS0l0w/v-deo.html. - more videos coming. Spread the word! T
As a guitar player that is returning to violin, Trevor's info is spot on. Guitar players use effects so frequently that many are familiar with effects processors like these. Dialing up a good tone -before- adding effects is key. Think of it as selecting the proper preamp first to build your tone. I do it for guitar with every processor I use. Once you have selected the preamp or amp emulator that sounds best to you, it's time to set your EQ levels. Getting a solid, balanced tone is what I shoot for. After that, you can add compression if needed. It isn't -always- necessary. Compression can be used to limit your signal as well as boost it, and that can sometimes be problematic for an instrument as dynamic as the violin. On guitar, I'll use compression to help sustain whole note chords or help smooth out chord changing (the compression can kind of smooth out or lower the minor noise that can happen depending on the chords played). On the violin, your bow controls the amount of time your notes sustain...which kinda renders the compression unnecessary. When you start fooling around with reverb, be mindful of your playing situation. If you're playing alone, and you're performing pieces with long, sustained notes...then, yes, that cathedral-like reverb with a long decay time is awesome. If you're playing in a band, and you're handling rhythm duties (chords, percussive chop, etc), you'll sound better with a very quick decaying, subtle reverb (or none at all). Same goes for delay. We all love to hear those repeats trail off as they decay, but pay attention to what the effect is doing. Is it supporting the solo you're playing? Is the effected sound you're using supporting what the band is doing? These questions help define when effects are helpful, and when effects take away from the performance. And that's the beauty of an effects processor like the ME50. Build the sound you like for quiet, subtle passages that have sustained notes. Build a sound with more mids and a little bit of delay to allow your tone to cut through in a band situation when it comes time for you to play the song melody or improvise. Build that overdriven or distorted tone that allows you to jam on Purple Haze or White Room or Mississippi Queen with your buddies. Y'all have a good day, and play more violin. :)
Thanks a lot ... these type of videos are a great help to budding electric violinists and string community in general.... pls do more videos like these ....
Love to review an ME 90, but only so much time lol 🤣. There are a lot of universal principals here through in this review, however, that you can take with you to any pedalboard, so I encourage you to do that. All the best! Also watch my main pedalboard tour for more ideas: ua-cam.com/video/q9OBoYS0l0w/v-deo.htmlsi=z79pcX4kXOt8xjGr
Thank you so much for this. I'm still learning the Instrument and currently use a headway band for my acoustic plugged into a Boss me80. Works nicely, but the Boss is still hard for me to wrap my head around because there is so much it can do!
Do you have any insight on the ME80 Octaver? Not the one from the Expression pedal; the other one. It won't work in the Higher ranges of any Violin (tried electric ones too) and my teacher said it would be a defect and the Octaver must Work. However, She doesnt have a ME80
@@ameliev.5459 The octave effect on this unit wants to be driven by a fuller sounding note (think of your open E versus that same note on the D string). The higher strings on your violin come through a bit thin, I imagine. The first thing I would do to try and counter that might be like this... Compressor (mild settings, no boost) > Equalizer (shoot for a balanced, full sound with all notes coming out of the speaker at the same volume) > Octave (start with the octave closest to the note you're playing and see how it responds, then try the lower octave). I have to assume the octave function on the ME80 is based on the Boss OC2 or OC3. Those pedals are easier to use with signal from a magnetic pickup (think electric guitar pickup) which is more full sounding.Both the piezo signal that originates from my acoustic electric guitar AND the piezo signal from my Barcus Barry violin are harsh and benefit greatly from going through a decent preamp to make a better signal. That's where using a preamp or guitar amp emulator can help.
Love this Video! Question: I used to have a multi effects pedal, loved it years ago, now getting back into it. So my question is that *if I have a Modeling Amp like a Line6 Spider V 120 mkii for example, do I still need a pedal like this, or would the amp give me a decent array of starting effects?* I ask because I can’t find any violin vids on those amps, so it’s hard to tell, but the guitar effects sound amazing on it, and I’m super interested in picking one up as I’m upgrading amps anyway. Thanks a million!
The Line6 Spider V 120 and other amps like it should give you all you need. You will want to approach your "basic sound" in a similar way to what I do here ... but in the amp format. All the best! Trevor
@@Leenie333 🤣. Yes, patience goes a long way when practicing + setting up tones / programming settings. If you find yourself becoming impatient, just walk away and come back later with a fresh set of ears / mindset ... T
@@TrevorDick 💯 Absolutely! When I find myself starting to feel frustrated, it’s time to put it away whether it be hours, a day… but coming back to it, especially after checking out some tutorials😉… I have new energy 💜
Great video! I especially like the tone you produce on your violin and I respect your playing chops. My question is, assuming you have had some experience with the me80, does the me50 have the sound quality as the me50?
Hey Richard, sorry for the delay in replying. Been a busy time for me! I think the ME80 is a higher-end pedal and will get you even better quality sounds. This demo, however shows that you can make the ME-50 sound pretty darn good, if you follow these guidelines that I laid out. All the best! 👊 T
Very Good, Straight foreword and Understandable info and explanation. Great video style too, No heavy metal background music or lame attempts at standup comedy. lol. Thanks.
Thanks for the tips. I plan to use these concepts on my new ME-80. What is the name of the Facebook group you mentioned? Is there also a community to share Boss patches specifically developed for electric violins?
You are welcome, @fiddlinvic! Should be an easy transition to applying these concepts. Facebook group is "Electric String Players" ... see you there! 👊T
I have an ME-80. I think I'll try your foundation idea for my CR-5 & I can build patches for it. (Guitar has been my #1 instrument for years, so I have my patches already for it) Thank You Trevor..
Thanks Trevor, comparing the sounds of various electric violins, played through different amps, I hear it makes a big difference to get those effects dialled in. For the same electric violin but different amps/settings, one sounds horrible, whilst the other great. It also appears what is good for one electric violin, is not necessarily good for another electric violin. PS thanks for publishing your music on spotify.
Yes, Norman ... thanks for dropping in! Getting your effects dialled in early (before the amp) is key (for me). On this demo, I use a very clean full range amp (Roland AC-60) that does not colour the sound at all. This is the way I prefer to do things. Some players work the other way around. They have an amp they prefer (and resulting colours) and build on that. Because I go directly into the house (via DI box) from the pedalboard (rather than mic the amp like most guitarists) my tone is actually a combination of violin and pedalboard. The amp is left out of the mix (more simple for touring etc. and just the way I have been approaching the electric violin my whole life). Others rely a lot on their amps (or a 50/50 split btw. amp effects/tone/drive etc). Again, different el. violins have strengths/weaknesses. I will tell you now, though, I can make any electric violin sound great with the approach I have taken (EQ, Comp, Reverb, Delay +) ... especially if you add a pre-amp to the mix. Glad you found me on Spotify. Share with your friends. I try to be everywhere 😎 ... What is your favourite song? T
Trevor Dick , thanks. What I meant by Amp was just the electronics to amplify/filter/effects (I assume this is the DI you refer to?) then straight into head phones or DAW, rather than Amp to speakers to Mic. Silent playing, recording and improvising on top is my aim at the moment, but making do with my acoustic violin for the moment. My favourite from your Spotify collection, that’s a hard one, when I am driving, Spotify does not tell me which song is playing, but hey I like them all, great variety of styles, your collection just resonates with me.
I was afraid to hear you say something Malmsteen Ying Yang Syndrome: "I'm looking to get a sound out of my violin that gets closer to a Fender Stratocaster guitar"
PLEASE NOTE, everyone! This is just a guideline (some strategies) to get started with your ME-50 or other related BOSS product or multi-effect unit. (IE. The amount of Compression I dialled up for this demo is higher than I would typically use. Some may want no Compression, others will want more. I would probably regularly set my Compression on this pedal at around 9 O'Clock). All the best in your experimenting! Never settle for the "pre-sets". Get "into the guts" of your pedals. Trevor
Wanted to know other than gr55 which is gud processor for cantini for live shows
@@arviolinist5019, any multi-effects pedalboards or rig of separate effects will work well with the 1/4 inch plug-in. Check out my demo here: ua-cam.com/video/q9OBoYS0l0w/v-deo.html. - more videos coming. Spread the word! T
i realize I'm kinda off topic but do anyone know of a good website to stream new tv shows online ?
@Ryland Ira Try FlixZone. Just google for it :)
@Khalid Frank definitely, have been watching on FlixZone for since april myself =)
As a guitar player that is returning to violin, Trevor's info is spot on. Guitar players use effects so frequently that many are familiar with effects processors like these.
Dialing up a good tone -before- adding effects is key. Think of it as selecting the proper preamp first to build your tone. I do it for guitar with every processor I use.
Once you have selected the preamp or amp emulator that sounds best to you, it's time to set your EQ levels. Getting a solid, balanced tone is what I shoot for.
After that, you can add compression if needed. It isn't -always- necessary. Compression can be used to limit your signal as well as boost it, and that can sometimes be problematic for an instrument as dynamic as the violin. On guitar, I'll use compression to help sustain whole note chords or help smooth out chord changing (the compression can kind of smooth out or lower the minor noise that can happen depending on the chords played). On the violin, your bow controls the amount of time your notes sustain...which kinda renders the compression unnecessary.
When you start fooling around with reverb, be mindful of your playing situation. If you're playing alone, and you're performing pieces with long, sustained notes...then, yes, that cathedral-like reverb with a long decay time is awesome. If you're playing in a band, and you're handling rhythm duties (chords, percussive chop, etc), you'll sound better with a very quick decaying, subtle reverb (or none at all).
Same goes for delay. We all love to hear those repeats trail off as they decay, but pay attention to what the effect is doing. Is it supporting the solo you're playing? Is the effected sound you're using supporting what the band is doing? These questions help define when effects are helpful, and when effects take away from the performance.
And that's the beauty of an effects processor like the ME50.
Build the sound you like for quiet, subtle passages that have sustained notes.
Build a sound with more mids and a little bit of delay to allow your tone to cut through in a band situation when it comes time for you to play the song melody or improvise.
Build that overdriven or distorted tone that allows you to jam on Purple Haze or White Room or Mississippi Queen with your buddies.
Y'all have a good day, and play more violin. :)
Thank, Jim! You "get it". T
Thanks a lot ... these type of videos are a great help to budding electric violinists and string community in general.... pls do more videos like these ....
Thanks, Shiva! Glad to be of help ... I trust others will post videos similar to this ... All the best in your playing and experimenting! T
Would love to see you demo the ME 90. I'm completely new to pedals and effects and trying to find a clean tone
Love to review an ME 90, but only so much time lol 🤣. There are a lot of universal principals here through in this review, however, that you can take with you to any pedalboard, so I encourage you to do that. All the best! Also watch my main pedalboard tour for more ideas: ua-cam.com/video/q9OBoYS0l0w/v-deo.htmlsi=z79pcX4kXOt8xjGr
Thank you for the video! I got a Boss ME 70 as a gift from my brother. So this video helps clarify a lot of my questions.
Awesome, Joseph! Glad this helped ... All the best! T
Great demo!
Thank you, @CineMutt! T
Thanks for this info! I’m a newbie to the electric violin and effects and your post is so helpful
Wonderful, Robin! Thanks! T
Amazing 👍
Thanks! Glad you liked it! T
Great video! I got the ME80, you opened a wide door for me! Thak you so much!
Thanks, Ionel. You are welcome! T
Thank you so much for this. I'm still learning the Instrument and currently use a headway band for my acoustic plugged into a Boss me80. Works nicely, but the Boss is still hard for me to wrap my head around because there is so much it can do!
I hear you! Just start with the basic tone you are looking for and then build from there, Amelie. All the best! T
Do you have any insight on the ME80 Octaver? Not the one from the Expression pedal; the other one. It won't work in the Higher ranges of any Violin (tried electric ones too) and my teacher said it would be a defect and the Octaver must Work. However, She doesnt have a ME80
And Just to add, it's awesome you still reply to an older video
@@ameliev.5459 More than Welcome! T
@@ameliev.5459 The octave effect on this unit wants to be driven by a fuller sounding note (think of your open E versus that same note on the D string). The higher strings on your violin come through a bit thin, I imagine.
The first thing I would do to try and counter that might be like this...
Compressor (mild settings, no boost) > Equalizer (shoot for a balanced, full sound with all notes coming out of the speaker at the same volume) > Octave (start with the octave closest to the note you're playing and see how it responds, then try the lower octave). I have to assume the octave function on the ME80 is based on the Boss OC2 or OC3. Those pedals are easier to use with signal from a magnetic pickup (think electric guitar pickup) which is more full sounding.Both the piezo signal that originates from my acoustic electric guitar AND the piezo signal from my Barcus Barry violin are harsh and benefit greatly from going through a decent preamp to make a better signal. That's where using a preamp or guitar amp emulator can help.
Love this Video!
Question:
I used to have a multi effects pedal, loved it years ago, now getting back into it. So my question is that *if I have a Modeling Amp like a Line6 Spider V 120 mkii for example, do I still need a pedal like this, or would the amp give me a decent array of starting effects?*
I ask because I can’t find any violin vids on those amps, so it’s hard to tell, but the guitar effects sound amazing on it, and I’m super interested in picking one up as I’m upgrading amps anyway.
Thanks a million!
The Line6 Spider V 120 and other amps like it should give you all you need. You will want to approach your "basic sound" in a similar way to what I do here ... but in the amp format. All the best! Trevor
@@TrevorDick amazing Trevor! Thank you for your response!
Can’t wait to meet you again some day and chat… 🤝
You playing great man ... Fantastic video .. Thanks ..
Thanks, Dan! All the best. T
This was extremely helpful. Thank you so much!
You are welcome, HK! T
Thanks for the great explanation.
You are welcome, Fernando! Keep watching ... T
Awesome video! I have a different Boss multieffects, but this is very helpful! Thanks, Trevor! 💜👍447
Thank you, Eileen.👍 Glad this was helpful. Yes, this is "universal" info that can be applied to any pedalboard. All the best! T
@@TrevorDick Do you have any tutorials on patience? 😂 Truly when I am patient, especially with practicing, better things happen. 😊
@@Leenie333 🤣. Yes, patience goes a long way when practicing + setting up tones / programming settings. If you find yourself becoming impatient, just walk away and come back later with a fresh set of ears / mindset ... T
@@TrevorDick 💯 Absolutely! When I find myself starting to feel frustrated, it’s time to put it away whether it be hours, a day… but coming back to it, especially after checking out some tutorials😉… I have new energy 💜
@@Leenie333 wonderful! Great strategy! T
Awsome video Trev
You are welcome, ES! Glad to hear ... T
Great video! I especially like the tone you produce on your violin and I respect your playing chops. My question is, assuming you have had some experience with the me80, does the me50 have the sound quality as the me50?
Hey Richard, sorry for the delay in replying. Been a busy time for me! I think the ME80 is a higher-end pedal and will get you even better quality sounds. This demo, however shows that you can make the ME-50 sound pretty darn good, if you follow these guidelines that I laid out. All the best! 👊 T
Very Good, Straight foreword and Understandable info and explanation. Great video style too, No heavy metal background music or lame attempts at standup comedy. lol. Thanks.
You are welcome, @P.S 👊. T
Great video. Thanks.
You are welcome, Marion! Thanks for dropping in .. sub and check out my other videos ... T
That phaser tone reminds me of classic Mahavishnu Orchestra.
Yes sir, @Al GDC! 👊T
Thanks for the tips. I plan to use these concepts on my new ME-80. What is the name of the Facebook group you mentioned? Is there also a community to share Boss patches specifically developed for electric violins?
You are welcome, @fiddlinvic! Should be an easy transition to applying these concepts. Facebook group is "Electric String Players" ... see you there! 👊T
I have an ME-80. I think I'll try your foundation idea for my CR-5 & I can build patches for it. (Guitar has been my #1 instrument for years, so I have my patches already for it) Thank You Trevor..
Do you zoom teach? Some coach sessions would be a great idea... Thanks again...
Yes, I do Zoom teach, @esparka. Would be an honour. Email me at trevor@trevordick.com and we can set something up ... T
Thanks Trevor, comparing the sounds of various electric violins, played through different amps, I hear it makes a big difference to get those effects dialled in. For the same electric violin but different amps/settings, one sounds horrible, whilst the other great. It also appears what is good for one electric violin, is not necessarily good for another electric violin. PS thanks for publishing your music on spotify.
Yes, Norman ... thanks for dropping in! Getting your effects dialled in early (before the amp) is key (for me). On this demo, I use a very clean full range amp (Roland AC-60) that does not colour the sound at all. This is the way I prefer to do things. Some players work the other way around. They have an amp they prefer (and resulting colours) and build on that. Because I go directly into the house (via DI box) from the pedalboard (rather than mic the amp like most guitarists) my tone is actually a combination of violin and pedalboard. The amp is left out of the mix (more simple for touring etc. and just the way I have been approaching the electric violin my whole life). Others rely a lot on their amps (or a 50/50 split btw. amp effects/tone/drive etc). Again, different el. violins have strengths/weaknesses. I will tell you now, though, I can make any electric violin sound great with the approach I have taken (EQ, Comp, Reverb, Delay +) ... especially if you add a pre-amp to the mix. Glad you found me on Spotify. Share with your friends. I try to be everywhere 😎 ... What is your favourite song? T
Trevor Dick , thanks. What I meant by Amp was just the electronics to amplify/filter/effects (I assume this is the DI you refer to?) then straight into head phones or DAW, rather than Amp to speakers to Mic. Silent playing, recording and improvising on top is my aim at the moment, but making do with my acoustic violin for the moment. My favourite from your Spotify collection, that’s a hard one, when I am driving, Spotify does not tell me which song is playing, but hey I like them all, great variety of styles, your collection just resonates with me.
Thanks nice video
More than welcome, SS! Thanks for dropping in. Also subscribe to my band channel @Trevor Dick Band. 😎👍👊
Hola que marca es el violín..gracias
Muchísimas gracias, Luis! T
I’m curious about what strings you use and tension, do you change them often?
I use D'Addario strings on my electrics ... and change them around every 1-2 years depending on how much playing I am doing. T
very nice review! what brand of strings are u using?
I typically use D'Addario NS Electric Violin Strings, Vinnie. They work great. T
thank you sir how is me 80 with viper ?
I'm sure it would work great, Bhargav! It's all in the set-up and programming of the pedalboard. That is key! 😎👍
Trevor sir thanks for your kind information 👏👏👏🙏
What make is that Electric Violin? thanks in advance.....
That is an NS Design, NXT electric violin. Great instruments! My student plays it. T
ok im might give up on 2yrs of piano for violin
Why not play both, @K4_rma? All the best! T
How much in dolar my freind? Plz
Hi, جزيرة المعرفة , the NXT + the ME-50 together will probably cost around $2200 US dollars. T
@@TrevorDick tres chere waaaw
I was afraid to hear you say something Malmsteen Ying Yang Syndrome: "I'm looking to get a sound out of my violin that gets closer to a Fender Stratocaster guitar"
I hear you Ivan! Whew, glad I didn't go there 😉👊👍. T