Nature Versus Desire In Drive
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2018
- What drives human behavior, our nature or our desires? This question affects many films, with the answer often dependent on the film's genre. But what if a film contains multiple genres? Drive is a noir and a western, and also has elements of crime, romance, action, and thriller. But what drives these genres, and what drives Drive: is it the Driver's nature or his desires?
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Footage from:
Drive (2011), Dir. Nicolas Winding Refn
Out of the Past (1947), Dir. Jacques Tourneur
Fargo: Season One (2014), Cre. Noah Hawley
Stagecoach (1939), Dir. John Ford
Rio Bravo (1959), Dir. Howard Hawks
McCabe and Mrs. Miller (1971), Dir. Robert Altman
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969), Dir. George Roy Hill
Shane (1953), Dir. George Stevens
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (1966), Dir. Sergio Leone
High Noon (1952), Dir. Fred Zinnemann
The Third Man (1949), Dir. Carol Reed
The Crying Game (1992), Dir. Neil Jordan
Music from:
Nightcall - Kavinsky
Oh My Love - Riz Ortolani
A Real Hero - College & Electric Youth
For educational purposes only.
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I just realize that the title DRIVE, is somehow can be translated as URGE or WANT.
absolutely. that was a deliberate move by the filmmakers.
How can it be translated?
@@Roadkill-Films Urge and want are synonyms for drive, not drive as in driving a car, but drive as in what drives us.
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Yep, he def missed it. The genre's "cooking show" actually. *Neo*-cooking show.
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Thanks for this breakdown of 'Drive,' it's one of my very favourite films. Not having been a fan of Ryan Gossling in the past (though I am now), I put off viewing this one even though I'd heard it was good- but you hear that every day from fans of everything. Well, not only did I fall I love with it on my first watch, I find I fall in love with again over repeated viewings. I think the casting in this film is absolutely perfect, and I do love how small-scale and intimate the film feels despite what's going on.
I agree the film is somewhat about accepting one's true nature, but also about the inevitability of other people's actions and desires interfering with and tainting our own, gaining the maturity to see where we ourselves have gone wrong in our lives (you can see this happen with all of the characters), and even if we try to approach an objectively bad/wrong action with the best of intentions, it draws one away from the idealised dreams we have and leads to our ultimate downfall.
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well done, some things i havnt heard from in other analysis. nice editing.
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Probably one of the best videos about Drive.
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Great video. Loved the way you showed how the noir and western genres coexisted. I haven't seen anyone made that distintion.
Though I do think the Driver definitely has some insanity issues, in the ending I think he is legitimately shown as a hero (as grey as he is) and the Irene scene is real. She was married to a criminal after all.
thanks for your comments. I personally go with the ending is in his head interpretation, but that's what's so interesting about this film, all the interpretations are valid and the one we go with probably says more about us that it does the actual film
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What the hell, man?! This is a brilliant analysis!!! I have discussed this movie with a lot more people that I should, and the point of it being a neo-noir didn't came up once. We are too used to the tragic hero gimmick in blockbusters to see pass through it.
did the idea of it being a western come up? I think for most people that's the more out there idea of the two
Movies Under The Surface Yeah it did came up, but only because I'm a Clint Eastwood fan... The hero without a name is a pretty obvious clue. I knew there was something more to read on the frog and the scorpion fable but I couldn't pinpoint it besides the obvious. Thank you for this.
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I wasn't sure where this was going somewhere with the two genre but with your angles it become the storytelling.
I have seen another interpretation where the scene where he kiss Irene and crush the guy is in his mind. That he imagined the kiss. It made sense to me at the time.
It's beautiful to see someone as you questionning his own perspective.
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Movies Under The Surface thank you for a beautiful take on one of my favorite movies
Drive is about what drives us or what we're driven towards?
I think it is about what drives us, but I can see someone interpret it as the other as well. As I said, Drive isn't as concrete as other films.
I never thought that the driver went mad. The scene in the elevator doesn't prove anything.
in this film, nothing proves anything. It's all up for interpretation
Well by the end he uses his nature to fulfill his desires, he’s became “a real human being” in synthesis with desire and nature and in turn made him “a real hero”.
thats one interpretation, a totally legitimate one too!
Wow. I never even thought that the ending was in his head. That's a dope theory.
thanks! I like it because I just can't see Irene knocking on the drivers door after what he did. Not to mention that whole building would be a crime scene and the driver would be a wanted man, so that whole moment doesn't make sense to me, unless it is in his head
@@MoviesUnderTheSurface I've seen this movie probably over three times already I Kind of want to see it again with that thought in the back of my head. Keep up the great work!
Actually no, Irene goes back and checks on the driver later in the end of the movie because she wants to see the good in him and not the bad because she’s the one who can restore the good in him
There’s more info in this Analysis video youtu.be2c4Fvx3nh2g
thats one interpretation but its not the only one
well in reality Irene may not want to see driver again as circumstances made whole elevator situation complicated and driver had to transform into scorpion in order to protect Irene and himself from the hitman. He killed hitman brutally but also lost Irene at the same time. Irony of the situation was Irene also didn't know hitman is carrying gun to kill them.
I think this movie rather says him using his nature to fill his desire
I always thought he died at the end and that the scene of him driving into the sunset is his desire to be the hero. To me, the way he closes his eyes and them open them is unnatural and was done to look like a transition from two different scenes. Every time I see that scene it just looks and sounds too odd to be a continuous scene.
It's definitely up to interpretation. I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't take it literally!
Yes an alternate ending to the movie... looks like he finally died but secured Irene and Benicio from mafia and thus became Irene's hero.
i loved this, if he is the scorpion in the neo- noir interpretation, who is the frog?
the frog is him in the western interpretation
My nature drives me from the day i was born.
that's probably true with the majority of people
Sorry for so many comments (not really) can you please please do one of these on Under The Silver Lake. I think you’d have a fucking field day with that. It’s my favorite movie.
Just saw the movie recently. It was interesting, but didn't really work for me. It Follows on the other hand, freaking fantastic. That's a film I'm interested in doing a video on.
you sound a helluva lot like the guy from yms
the driver haven't gone mad. he protected the girl from the guy in the elevator who wanted to kill them. that's more like a self-defense to me
thats one interpretation, but not the only one. Is it still self defense when you stomp someone's head into mush? Are you still protecting your girl when you freak her out so much she leaves you?
she's married to a criminal. i bet she've seen stuff. i think the driver was afraid the elevator guy could reach for the gun so he had to make sure he's dead; he was in the heat of the moment, you know? also, we don't know driver's backstory.. i think he was some kind of a hitman in the past. i guess that's why i didn't consider insanity as an option
Why say “desire” instead of “moral code”?
nature and moral code are not mutually exclusive, nature and desire (as I'm using them) are
So you use the scorpion jacket as solid evidence he is literally the scorpion, but the frog literally had a scorpion on his back in the fable. You keep citing the elevator as sign of his madness, but if he didn't react there would be 2 dead bodies in that elevator and only one guy getting off. All the motivations of every single bit of violence he commited was in the name of protecting his desires, and 100% selfless. I like your interpretation but I am not fully convinced at all.
"So you use the scorpion jacket as solid evidence he is literally the scorpion, but the frog literally had a scorpion on his back in the fable." Interesting, I didn't think about that.
Regarding the elevator scene, one extreme is not doing anything, another extreme is stomping the guys head in. There are a many responses in between he couldve done. To me it is clear that he started out protecting Irene, but once he started stomping, his madness took over. Based on Irene's reation, I'd say she agrees.
I’ve always thought this was a superhero movie. I always thought he was immortal and can’t be killed, and because of this he feels alone in the world, and simply wants to connect with something. The ending is his nature and his desires collapsing in on themselves, and he is left to live yet again.
that's interesting. The director has talked about how the driver thinks he is a real life action star; based on what you wrote maybe he is one.
Good video, but I think you tried too hard to get a clear monotone answer, unnecessarily separating two aspects of this movie. Both are true till the very end.
"Is Driver a hero or a victim of his nature"? Well... He definitely is a hero - he saved someone and had to sacrifice something of himself to do it... And his dark nature is fully awake. But he is nor a victim. He seems to me like the only character that embraced his nature rather than running away from it, and used it to achieve his goal, rather than letting his nature destroy his desire - as happened to most other characters.
but if he wanted to be with Irene, then his nature did destroy his desire, just like the other characters
@@MoviesUnderTheSurface Staying with Irene was not his only motive...it was his internal desire. What happened in the elevator scene was cruel in terms of his fate. Had he and Irene not met the hit man, immediate impact on their lives would have been bit different. It was coincidence and bad luck which could occur with driver at any time given his violent nature.
He definitely died at the end...
I dont disagree, but other people do. that's part of the beauty of this film
@@MoviesUnderTheSurface Except we know with a 100% certainty that he survived. It has been confirmed by the director of the movie.
@@vincentrodriguez3420 Just because the director says he survived doesn't mean he survived. Director's intent and what is actually on screen are two different things. What in the film tells you with 100% certainty that he survived?
For the record, I personally believe he survived. I go with the second interpretation, that he checked out of reality. But its definitely not 100%, especially not because of things people say outside the actual movie.