@@warbacca1017 Val and Vox, maybe. Vel seems like the type who's plenty crafty enough to survive against anyone that isn't specifically planning around her. She seems like the weakest of the 3, but she also seem like hands down the most likely to survive in a situation where some of them need to die.
I wouldn't call them really threats (Velvette aside) but antagonists, especially when compared to other Overlords. Vox got owned by Alastor and while Valentino was smart enough to use Charlie's and Angel's kindness to his advantage his obsession with the later plays against him. Velvette is the only one who got her sh*t together and she was able to play Carmina without problem. She undeniably is the backbone of the vees.
it feels like Velvet is the brain, while Valantino is the one with all the crooks, while Vox is the linchpin the other 2 couldn't work together without
@@KingsBard well also it's in their jobs. Vel is the social media morgul all Twitter users and UA-cam commenters are her fodder, she runs fashion shows and forges the brand and shapes the background flow of people, she is UA-cam. Vox is the advertisement, he's the talkshow host, the telepreacher, the Rachel Maddow and Tucker Carlson, he tells you what you want to buy and what to think upfront, he is the 24 hour news cycle. Valentino is the Pimp, he's got the bodies, you want to be a star or a model, you've got to whore yourself out to him first, he makes the people who work for them controllable and while doing that he produces the porn and the background, background media, he is PornHub.
In her own words, she is the backbone. The bold one willing and able to challenge others. Vox is the brains, using his network to gather intelligence and manipulate viewers. Val is brawn, using his poison to recruit and control a small army of Sinners to do their bidding.
@@KingsBard i love to think of them more as an embodiment of media, vox is the hardware, velvette is the software, while val is the content. No one is above each other they both needed each other equally.
@@Suc-Chii oooh, I really like how that was put! Something always bothered me about Valentino being adult film while the other two are more so the medium of how content is given to you, but that makes a lot of sense
Tbh, if they can make weapons that can kill angels then they would lose. Most of the residents of hell are often replaced by the new residents or are too busy smashing. Yes, they have some capable fighters constantly trying to kill each other for entertainment but the Exorcist are quite literally trained and experienced fighting against demons.
@@mroxkral7276not sure where that theory comes from but even still, they must have millennia of combat experience, since not once has an exorcist been killed before, unless they retire after some time but there’s nothing that indicates that yet soooo… Hell might be fucked.
@@xoersummoner1336 Viv confirmed that there ia an LED screen behind the mask. So, some people theorize that the exterminators may be being controlled, explaining the robot like behavior they show. This is the incredibly summarized version but that's the gist of it.
I love how Zestial and Alastor , when compared to the Vs show the difference between confidence and arrogance. The former don't feel the need to enter into a pissing contest with other Overlords, because they know better than to needlessly step on each other's toes. Whereas the Vs are basically *looking* to pick fights regardless if its smart or not and despite them needing each other to maintain their shared empire, each of them considers themselves the "backbone of the Vs". Hell, Velvette calls everyone in that room cowards for not wanting a war with *Heaven* , a war only the Seven Deadly Sins would be powerfull enough to survive, which REALLY shows her ignorance. Especially if it took one of the strongest demons in Hell to take down a single Exterminator, who are implied to be just standard foot soldiers.
What can we say if Velvette doesn’t care about the old-timers of Hell (especially Lucifer, which is why she calls his daughter pathetic). Also, everyone from Vee's is younger than any other Overlord (probably even Alastor). They don't even realize that if they suddenly try to harm Charlie, Lucifer will destroy them with a snap of his fingers (perhaps literally).
@@GuyFromTheFarNorth My guy, it wouldn't even get to Lucifer. Charlie could kill any of the overlords with ease. The only reason she wouldn't is because she's simply too nice. And that's not even mentioning the fact that we don't know if any of them COULD hurt her.
@@nemasisdemarini8339, actually, I have an idea of Charlie's strength. After all, she is the daughter of a fallen angel (who was the first among angels before the appearance of Michael) and the first earthly woman (before Eve), who became the mother of demons and devils. Naturally, she is absolutely stronger than everyone who is lower than Lucifer (each one against her, or the whole crowd against her), except for himself, of course.
*"I love how Zestial and Alastor , when compared to the Vs show the difference between confidence and arrogance."* Yep. That's why Alastor picks a fight with Lucifer just because of his own arrogance. Or thinks he is gonna beat up Adam, and gets his ass handed to him. *The former don't feel the need to enter into a pissing contest with other Overlords, because they know better than to needlessly step on each other's toes.* Alastor absolutely felt the need to get into a pissing contest with Vox once Vox challenged his pride. Alastor and Vox are much closer in personality than fans seem to think. Vox lives for adoration(and fear), Alastor lives for fear(and adoration). Vox is just less classy about it and his more explosive anger caused him to fuck up in their encounter(same way Carmilla fucked up against Velvet). Heck, Alastor is visibly angered by Carmilla not caring what he had been up to for that reason. Oh, and Zestial also felt the need to get into a pissing contest considering he went for his own insult almost immediately(the aggressive slurping was a clear shot across the bow). *Whereas the Vs are basically looking to pick fights regardless if its smart or not and despite them needing each other to maintain their shared empire, each of them considers themselves the "backbone of the Vs.* Carmilla got completely outplayed by Velvet. The writer's notes themselves also back Velvet's statement of being the backbone up. "The glue that binds the sadistic boys together and keeps them in check." There is absolutely an element of arrogance and foolishness to the Vees, but not at all as much as people think. All the overlords who we've seen the personalities of so far are more arrogant than they are confident- which makes sense, they are in the *PRIDE* ring. Zestial is old and wise, but arrogant. Alastor likes to think he's much greater than he is and gets livid when his self-image is challenged(see Husk infuriating him, on top of the stuff I said above). Carmilla underestimates her opponents. The Vees are louder, but the others are much the same, just less obvious. I guess Rosie is the one exception to this rule.
@@GuyFromTheFarNorth *After all, she is the daughter of a fallen angel (who was the first among angels before the appearance of Michael) and the first earthly woman (before Eve), who became the mother of demons and devils.* Lucifer in the show is not implied to be the "first among angels". He's implied to be below the 6 who banished him(and one of them was likely Sera, who is the Head Seraphim). The show doesn't stick entirely to standard theology. And as for Lucifer being first among angels, it depends on what apocrypha is considered. In Enoch(one of the books a lot of angel lore is actually based on), Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Phanuel and Seraphiel(Sera's likely inspiration) are all higher than any Seraphim, and they are all ranked below Metatron(God's scribe)- with Seraphiel being Metatron's protector. Point is, nothing in the show suggests he's actually stronger than Sera. *Naturally, she is absolutely stronger than everyone who is lower than Lucifer (each one against her, or the whole crowd against her),* Adam was absolutely hammering her outside a stab he didn't expect. Alastor honestly did better until he got oneshot. Charlie has a lot more raw power than any overlord, but she's not actually a great fighter. Charlie would likely lose to any combination of two Overlords in a head on fight thanks to this. She would not beat the whole crowd of overlords, not in the slightest, even if she's stronger on paper. *except for himself, of course* Lucifer is leagues above everyone in hell, that much is true.
Huh, well, despite Episode 2 being Harue first introduction, I could imagine that this Song could be considered as Velvet’s True Introduction in general.
I hope that we will see Eva someday, but I don't know if she is like Adam Anjel or if she turned out worse. Ep 3 of the Vaggie and Carmila theory is now full for me...
Ok the idea that Adam is the actual good one of the two would be hilarious scary cause now I'm imagining eve to be more like a rabid beast that ironically Adam is appeasing via killing sinners as a way of ironically protecting hell from her which would be the ultimate twist, he wants to protect hell but he has to do a dirty job to do so maybe that could explain why all exterminators are female, their all eve pick but Adam is the "face" as way of protecting hell and heaven
@@theenderdestruction2362 i had a theory that Eva actually got killed because Lucifer tempted her into eating the fruit, but this is assuming the story at episode 1 is actually a false narrative created by Lucifer, to sell a better image of him and lilith to Charlie. If my assumption is correct, then that would explain why Adam is so indifferent to sinners, he's fucking pissed at hell, and carries the exterminations as revenge.
@@OlTimeyChara ok I'm just doing this cause it's both slightly annoying me and cause someone else might be less kind about it, your typing EVA which when I read it reminds me of the robot from wall e you know EVA, the first wife of Adam (not Lilith) is called EVE not Eva but eve kinda sounds like leaf if ya say it out loud but anyways just thought I might help you there before going into your theory, whilst I do enjoy that idea I don't think that will be the case cause without eve, Adam wouldn't have created cain, able and the third son who I don't remember who in some cases created lying, also for the book thing, yeah that will hopefully be the case, I personally don't exactly derive enjoyment out of angels of heaven being actually very evil and the literal demons of hell being mostly good guys, so the idea of Lucifer the prince of lies giving Charlie a altered story would make sense, also did you know Lilith in the bible and all that actually kills babys, why? Because her own children were killed, now if I remember correctly they were snake like or something but ehhh, anyway Lilith is also the mother to all succubus and incubus's so that's a thing
Tho I enjoy these sing offs and even the occasional scene of over lords showing more demonic forms Nothing so far has topped helluva boss transformations like Asmodeous and Mammons power clash over Fizz Or even stolas going full on demon mode on the humans that kidnapped blitz and moxy
I cant wait for charlie to go full transformation. It seems like the show is building up to Charlie vs Adam and if thats the case, charlie is going to have a super cool transformation where she wrecks Adam
Love your reactions, also yeah that song is FIRE
Alastor (Radio Demon) and Rosie (Cannibal Overlord) sit and watched like they're just there for the drama lmao
They are both roughly from the same era so for them a petty spat between political leaders in a sense is like going to the theatre
The faces Rosie makes during the song are the best
I love how these episodes establish each of the Vee's as a threat. Carmila is such a great singer
Just watch Zestial solo all 3 😅
@@warbacca1017yeah the most threat they have is how widespread they are but in power not much compared to someone considered ancient like zestial
@@warbacca1017 Val and Vox, maybe. Vel seems like the type who's plenty crafty enough to survive against anyone that isn't specifically planning around her. She seems like the weakest of the 3, but she also seem like hands down the most likely to survive in a situation where some of them need to die.
I wouldn't call them really threats (Velvette aside) but antagonists, especially when compared to other Overlords. Vox got owned by Alastor and while Valentino was smart enough to use Charlie's and Angel's kindness to his advantage his obsession with the later plays against him. Velvette is the only one who got her sh*t together and she was able to play Carmina without problem. She undeniably is the backbone of the vees.
@@underblader9675 At this point, she IS the Vees as far as I'm concerned.
it feels like Velvet is the brain, while Valantino is the one with all the crooks, while Vox is the linchpin the other 2 couldn't work together without
I'd argue that Vox and Vel are both the brains, he's is the drive while she's the ambition.
@@KingsBard well also it's in their jobs.
Vel is the social media morgul all Twitter users and UA-cam commenters are her fodder, she runs fashion shows and forges the brand and shapes the background flow of people, she is UA-cam.
Vox is the advertisement, he's the talkshow host, the telepreacher, the Rachel Maddow and Tucker Carlson, he tells you what you want to buy and what to think upfront, he is the 24 hour news cycle.
Valentino is the Pimp, he's got the bodies, you want to be a star or a model, you've got to whore yourself out to him first, he makes the people who work for them controllable and while doing that he produces the porn and the background, background media, he is PornHub.
In her own words, she is the backbone. The bold one willing and able to challenge others. Vox is the brains, using his network to gather intelligence and manipulate viewers. Val is brawn, using his poison to recruit and control a small army of Sinners to do their bidding.
@@KingsBard i love to think of them more as an embodiment of media, vox is the hardware, velvette is the software, while val is the content. No one is above each other they both needed each other equally.
@@Suc-Chii oooh, I really like how that was put! Something always bothered me about Valentino being adult film while the other two are more so the medium of how content is given to you, but that makes a lot of sense
What a productive meeting!
It actually was, for Alastor and Velvette.
Tbh, if they can make weapons that can kill angels then they would lose. Most of the residents of hell are often replaced by the new residents or are too busy smashing. Yes, they have some capable fighters constantly trying to kill each other for entertainment but the Exorcist are quite literally trained and experienced fighting against demons.
quite likely being controlled, and programmed with combat skills
@@mroxkral7276not sure where that theory comes from but even still, they must have millennia of combat experience, since not once has an exorcist been killed before, unless they retire after some time but there’s nothing that indicates that yet soooo…
Hell might be fucked.
@@xoersummoner1336 Viv confirmed that there ia an LED screen behind the mask. So, some people theorize that the exterminators may be being controlled, explaining the robot like behavior they show. This is the incredibly summarized version but that's the gist of it.
*and plus, they also have archangels and with the big man upstairs. I’m Christian. And I don’t think hell has a chance if god intervenes.*
@@twistedgabriel4774I'm sure God would be neutral in all this
Velvette became one of my favourites after this performance.
I love how Zestial and Alastor , when compared to the Vs show the difference between confidence and arrogance.
The former don't feel the need to enter into a pissing contest with other Overlords, because they know better than to needlessly step on each other's toes.
Whereas the Vs are basically *looking* to pick fights regardless if its smart or not and despite them needing each other to maintain their shared empire, each of them considers themselves the "backbone of the Vs".
Hell, Velvette calls everyone in that room cowards for not wanting a war with *Heaven* , a war only the Seven Deadly Sins would be powerfull enough to survive, which REALLY shows her ignorance.
Especially if it took one of the strongest demons in Hell to take down a single Exterminator, who are implied to be just standard foot soldiers.
What can we say if Velvette doesn’t care about the old-timers of Hell (especially Lucifer, which is why she calls his daughter pathetic). Also, everyone from Vee's is younger than any other Overlord (probably even Alastor). They don't even realize that if they suddenly try to harm Charlie, Lucifer will destroy them with a snap of his fingers (perhaps literally).
@@GuyFromTheFarNorth My guy, it wouldn't even get to Lucifer. Charlie could kill any of the overlords with ease. The only reason she wouldn't is because she's simply too nice. And that's not even mentioning the fact that we don't know if any of them COULD hurt her.
@@nemasisdemarini8339, actually, I have an idea of Charlie's strength. After all, she is the daughter of a fallen angel (who was the first among angels before the appearance of Michael) and the first earthly woman (before Eve), who became the mother of demons and devils. Naturally, she is absolutely stronger than everyone who is lower than Lucifer (each one against her, or the whole crowd against her), except for himself, of course.
*"I love how Zestial and Alastor , when compared to the Vs show the difference between confidence and arrogance."*
Yep. That's why Alastor picks a fight with Lucifer just because of his own arrogance. Or thinks he is gonna beat up Adam, and gets his ass handed to him.
*The former don't feel the need to enter into a pissing contest with other Overlords, because they know better than to needlessly step on each other's toes.*
Alastor absolutely felt the need to get into a pissing contest with Vox once Vox challenged his pride. Alastor and Vox are much closer in personality than fans seem to think. Vox lives for adoration(and fear), Alastor lives for fear(and adoration). Vox is just less classy about it and his more explosive anger caused him to fuck up in their encounter(same way Carmilla fucked up against Velvet).
Heck, Alastor is visibly angered by Carmilla not caring what he had been up to for that reason.
Oh, and Zestial also felt the need to get into a pissing contest considering he went for his own insult almost immediately(the aggressive slurping was a clear shot across the bow).
*Whereas the Vs are basically looking to pick fights regardless if its smart or not and despite them needing each other to maintain their shared empire, each of them considers themselves the "backbone of the Vs.*
Carmilla got completely outplayed by Velvet.
The writer's notes themselves also back Velvet's statement of being the backbone up. "The glue that binds the sadistic boys together and keeps them in check."
There is absolutely an element of arrogance and foolishness to the Vees, but not at all as much as people think.
All the overlords who we've seen the personalities of so far are more arrogant than they are confident- which makes sense, they are in the *PRIDE* ring. Zestial is old and wise, but arrogant. Alastor likes to think he's much greater than he is and gets livid when his self-image is challenged(see Husk infuriating him, on top of the stuff I said above). Carmilla underestimates her opponents. The Vees are louder, but the others are much the same, just less obvious.
I guess Rosie is the one exception to this rule.
@@GuyFromTheFarNorth *After all, she is the daughter of a fallen angel (who was the first among angels before the appearance of Michael) and the first earthly woman (before Eve), who became the mother of demons and devils.*
Lucifer in the show is not implied to be the "first among angels". He's implied to be below the 6 who banished him(and one of them was likely Sera, who is the Head Seraphim).
The show doesn't stick entirely to standard theology.
And as for Lucifer being first among angels, it depends on what apocrypha is considered. In Enoch(one of the books a lot of angel lore is actually based on), Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Phanuel and Seraphiel(Sera's likely inspiration) are all higher than any Seraphim, and they are all ranked below Metatron(God's scribe)- with Seraphiel being Metatron's protector.
Point is, nothing in the show suggests he's actually stronger than Sera.
*Naturally, she is absolutely stronger than everyone who is lower than Lucifer (each one against her, or the whole crowd against her),*
Adam was absolutely hammering her outside a stab he didn't expect. Alastor honestly did better until he got oneshot. Charlie has a lot more raw power than any overlord, but she's not actually a great fighter. Charlie would likely lose to any combination of two Overlords in a head on fight thanks to this. She would not beat the whole crowd of overlords, not in the slightest, even if she's stronger on paper.
*except for himself, of course*
Lucifer is leagues above everyone in hell, that much is true.
I find it funny that she was talking about how Superior she is, i'm fairly sure just about everyone in the room could've beat her up rather easily.
Except for Frank
@@Karou812 however, sir pentious would absolutely annihilate her
Huh, well, despite Episode 2 being Harue first introduction, I could imagine that this Song could be considered as Velvet’s True Introduction in general.
I’m like 86% sure Alastor wasn’t being sarcastic, that actually was really productive for an overlord meeting.
I hope that we will see Eva someday, but I don't know if she is like Adam Anjel or if she turned out worse.
Ep 3 of the Vaggie and Carmila theory is now full for me...
Ok the idea that Adam is the actual good one of the two would be hilarious scary cause now I'm imagining eve to be more like a rabid beast that ironically Adam is appeasing via killing sinners as a way of ironically protecting hell from her which would be the ultimate twist, he wants to protect hell but he has to do a dirty job to do so maybe that could explain why all exterminators are female, their all eve pick but Adam is the "face" as way of protecting hell and heaven
@@theenderdestruction2362 i had a theory that Eva actually got killed because Lucifer tempted her into eating the fruit, but this is assuming the story at episode 1 is actually a false narrative created by Lucifer, to sell a better image of him and lilith to Charlie.
If my assumption is correct, then that would explain why Adam is so indifferent to sinners, he's fucking pissed at hell, and carries the exterminations as revenge.
@@OlTimeyChara ok I'm just doing this cause it's both slightly annoying me and cause someone else might be less kind about it, your typing EVA which when I read it reminds me of the robot from wall e you know EVA, the first wife of Adam (not Lilith) is called EVE not Eva but eve kinda sounds like leaf if ya say it out loud but anyways just thought I might help you there before going into your theory, whilst I do enjoy that idea I don't think that will be the case cause without eve, Adam wouldn't have created cain, able and the third son who I don't remember who in some cases created lying, also for the book thing, yeah that will hopefully be the case, I personally don't exactly derive enjoyment out of angels of heaven being actually very evil and the literal demons of hell being mostly good guys, so the idea of Lucifer the prince of lies giving Charlie a altered story would make sense, also did you know Lilith in the bible and all that actually kills babys, why? Because her own children were killed, now if I remember correctly they were snake like or something but ehhh, anyway Lilith is also the mother to all succubus and incubus's so that's a thing
I found it cool that you are blinking on beat.
I was? 😆 neat
That was when Carmila had enough of Velvette's disrespectful tone
velvette's voice charmed me in a trance I couldn't escape
That was a productive meeting 😁
Well in Alastor case it was a realy prodactiv meeting, the learned some very interesting things that he used in his favour
Awesome reaction girl
Bro- velvette has bars
This is one of my favorites!!
Tho I enjoy these sing offs and even the occasional scene of over lords showing more demonic forms
Nothing so far has topped helluva boss transformations like Asmodeous and Mammons power clash over Fizz
Or even stolas going full on demon mode on the humans that kidnapped blitz and moxy
We are still early in the season. I'm sure the season finale will be radio glorious. 📻
@@Dipperdog_RPGirl I don’t doubt it
But just keeping in mind the difference in audience/demographics for the 2 shows
And I mean, you're comparing them to THE SINS, the most powerful beings in hell.
@@gamerbear84 3rd they are under Lucifer and Lilith/charlie
Plus stolas is an ars Goetia they are only one rank above the overlords
I cant wait for charlie to go full transformation. It seems like the show is building up to Charlie vs Adam and if thats the case, charlie is going to have a super cool transformation where she wrecks Adam
The vees are team rocket
Me watching this 427 with my headphones
the vee reminds me of garnets song while fighting jasper
Amazing song.
Zestials name implies he's a fallen angel, in the bible most angels names end with "iel" "ial" or "ael"
Hello! NiceReaction video!☺️👍
This song was kinda lit
😈
Hello🎉
Hello🎉🎉🎉
Why do you just laugh at random stuff in the song?
FIRST!
I Ship Allister And The Egg Minion!
Nah bro you’re done. You saying shit like this, we aint ever lettin you cook again💀