THE SHOOTING RANGE 168: The best anti-air? / War Thunder
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2019
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In this episode:
• Pages of History: wheeled tanks;
• Tank Triathlon: comparing top-tier AA tech of different nations;
• Metal Beasts with one of the contestants!
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What if gaijin increased 'teamwork' rewards by 20x as well as 'Assist' and 'Tank rescuer"?
Makes no money for gaijin, so it's never gonna happen.
@@peterfruchtig5334 Actually it will because gaijin can change a few game mechanics. By adding more teamwork, the game will become more fun to play and alot more immersive and WW2 like... Players will join in, games will be more intense and fun. The reason why so many players quit is because of the grind and everything has to do with grinding SL... I quit too because i was getting so frustrated i couldn't do anything other than kill and shoot down stuff... I want missions where you can bomb or escort other b17 bombers...
Just look at PHLYDAILY's video: ua-cam.com/video/WaBRp1GgLI0/v-deo.html
More people will play it. It'll be a unique game
MASOL I don’t follow you in the reply, but I think rewards should be booted a bit. I think seeing more rewards in game battles would probably push people to work together and stay with the team in battle
There was a time where I had 9 kills no assists and no caps and 2 deaths and there was someone with 7 kills and 3 assists no caps and 2 deaths as well and he was higher than me
That would be great
gaijin : talking about
A.speed
B.quickest kill
C.fastest radar lock
me : so, who's the fastest in turret treverse ???
man comph I think you can just check that in the game by yourself..
@@testingphaze4853 well that's just a pointless comment if you dont have all the vehicles needed
@@rn-zu5ld You don't need them in game to check?
The Sidam 25
@@jafon9 you kinda do... Spaded vehicles with ace crew will have much better turret traverse.
Bruce:”It has eight of the fastest missiles”
Starstreaks: Am I a joke to you?
No, they‘re a joke to *us*
Starstreaks are terribly implemented in WT. The stormer sadly is a joke
Yes you are, After all they are useless if they never hit XD Thats like having the biggest gun... (that doesnt fire) lol
Jason Scott man I can smash my keyboard to pieces when I nail super cool and hard shot with stormer and then in the middle of my screen there just “Hit”
@@David-rd1lj Yeah sounds like your firing a british rocket there... Anything you buy in the british tech tree is "balanced" :D Shame its not balanced to war thunder tho :\
so if Stormer is not the best SPAA then why does it costs 4 times more than ADATS or 2S6?
gaijin hates britain...
ITS THE STROMER
@@wurstsalatplays523 what do you mean?
@@juliussalovaara9787 listen to the narrator ;)
The best SPAAS? The 1.3 French one of course.
Wirblwind
Nope.
Floyd B. Olson Milk truck
That is actually my best SPAA too. 😃
No the angry Italian r3
How come in game chat “ > “ always turns into “ ] ” ?
I think is your keyboard language setting, you have to change it in the computer's settings
robball 14 no I've noticed this too, the game doesn't accept the less/more than symbols and just changes them into a square bracket, don't know why though
robball 14 no, it’s exclusive to this game. Never does that on the Internet nor other games.
It's a feature.
))
It would be far too toxic if players could send hearts.... don't you know
The british stormers’ starstreaks are famous for being incredibly accurate, the game just fails at showing that, god forbid britain has an advantage
Everyone: Self-Propelled Anti-Air.
ADATS: Self-Propelled Anti-ANYTHING!
Fr fr
Teach us how to aim Anti Air, especially heavier single firing guns like the 40mm Bofors
Don't think someone can give you really any tricks in hitting aircraft with those, just trial and error.
ua-cam.com/video/ip3-4vhVnIE/v-deo.html
You really need something with long magazines or with a negligible reload.
A few more things, don't fire until the plane is close. Many people shoot planes that are off on another map and it shows the pilot where the anti-aircraft is and he has time to plan around it, so don't be impatient. I only fire within a kilometer, and to follow real life doctrine I generally only shoot when they're going to bomb, but that's completely optional. Also when the plane is turning, don't aim directly in front of the plane, instead aim where he is turning. Also look out for other planes if you can, they like to attack while you're occupied or aiming the other way, especially if you're in my situation and you lag out when you get hit by a plane's many bullets!
I play arcade assault and play as AA to get better at AA
I: "no see Japan AA"
I: Where is Japan AA with AAM?
Gajin: Yyy... Eemm... Probably in future?
I: ;(
Dominik Oklej just say “Me” lmao
what had Japan except that truck?
@@KingSpittusFactus more trucks, but id be fine with them trucks too tbh
@@KingSpittusFactus Sound bloody fun to shoot SAMs from a truck in top tier to me
@@bad1971nova About time xD
Ah yes, the glorious british SPAA, the Stromer. I think there might have been a typo in the script
A: The Heatseaking Missiles dont need a delay to get ready to fire unless it is the first time powering up the system, in which case it takes more then 5 seconds and more along the lines of 10 minutes for the seaker to cool down to operating temperatures. In the case of a battle ready powered up SAM system, Jet or Helicopter arming the missiles is as easy as selecting them, no delay required since the missile is already preped beforehand
B: The Tracking systems on all Radar AA is extremly underperforming in this game compared to the real thing
C: Missiles such as those used on the Tunguska ingame spiral out of control past 2km, this does not happen in the real thing
D: C and B make it excesively hard for Radar SAMs to engage targets accurately, those were 2 easy targets to shoot down, the 1st missile should have killed them with all of the vehicles. but because none of the systems is implemented properly some vehicles had to shoot several times, not to mention the utter uselesnes of the Stormer currently
Also, Mistral Missiles and other heatseakers are currently overperforming, they should be able to lose lock since their tracking isnt perfect, curently this does not happen and the only way to evade them is Pull enought Gs to break lock (good luck trying that with a heli) or dumping flares prematurely before the missile is even launched (oh wait jets dont get flares)
You missed a great opportunity to say "the missile knows where it is" on that sidam review
Could the night battles be more frequent in the future ? I haven't really used my night vision system yet because of the rarity of the night.
They did add night battle modes in the events menu, where you select sim battles etc
No, you only get night time maps when youre using tanks without nightvision
@@itchypit6413 and when you activate a booster
Hi! Could we get some WW2 Stuff? Since there has been more focused om Modern stuff this year.
Smh ask for Swedish tonks and plens
I also want to see more ww2 stuff
They don't know that there are WW2 tanks in the game.
I really hope there is an alternative to the Stormer HVM in the works, as this vehicle only performs consistently well against helicopters moving predictably at great range.
The missiles travel far too fast to accurately strike close targets, and this is compounded by their exhaust obscuring the optics for the first second or two of the munitions flight.
I tried to like it, then tried to tolerate it. Ultimately I've retired it from my lineup. It regularly disappoints both the user and their team. It is better for all involved to not field the vehicle, as doing so may create the assumption among teammates that the friendly SPAA will keep the sky clear. The reality is that any alternative available is in practical effect a better option.
TL;DR - Fielding a Stormer HVM is detrimental to the team, as it not only deprives said team of a tank, but supplies them an SPAA that cannot reliably perform its role.
The actual answer for the last question is smoking. Years of chain smoking.
No years of tea drinking
Bring back Air RB enduring confrontation (Attempt 5)
Big like to Bruce for such an articulate professional amazing voice overs. I'm Simultaneous Interpreter myself and I learn allot from you.
Who knows, now they tested the stormer, maby just maby, they will fix it and add the laser system for the missile. BECAUSE IT NEEDS IT!
With the plethora of realistic historical vehicles in War Thunder, have you ever thought about making some sort of historical RTS using the same basis? Not as an MMO RTS, of course, but one with proper single-player campaigns, featuring the battles that made the map locations you already have famous? Could be awesome!
Bring back the Maus and the other deleted German vehicels !
@Radio_Demon 1. Fek you
2. They are deleted for any players who havent researched them. But are hidden from the tech tree for ppl who already have them, so no, youre not right.
Besides the maus all of them are paper vehicles. No
When i put my tail gunner’s view in fp the tail of my plane is invisible, how can i slove that??
Are you playing on ULQ or Low?
Because at medium graphic settings you only see it.
Everything below it will not show your plane for more Fps
Theres a setting that says "camera from gunners sight", disable it
you will have to change the graphic settings
How come the Gepard with the stinger modification is not in the game?
soon
because they didn't add it
Because ıts german and developers are russian
@@efekaplan5125 you say that while the leo2a5 exists
snonsig play leo2a5 first and stfu
You can kill 2a5 with 1a1 or T-80U or Challenger 2 with only 1 shot
Can you add the british Tall boy bomb that it was used in the lancaster?
Manos Roun. And the grand slam
Warrior Vs M3 Bradley comparison attempt #4
Speaking of top tier spaa, when are you going to give one to Japan like you said you would?
what did they had except that truck?
@@KingSpittusFactus then add that
SOOOOOOOON TM
and the british a proper one...
LeOn Mk type 89 witch is just a Japanese gepard
Ooh I know the best Anti-air! It's the Wirbelwind!
If you add IED mines please read this becaue the Rooikat can with stand the blast . 5:58 The Regions that was use was due to a big open savana where there would be normallu anti tank and anti personal land mines on the dirt roads .The Rooikat Armored fighting vehicles bottom was equiped with a special protection plate that could withstand TM46 anti tank land mines that can withstand a 454kg (1000 lb ) IED mine .
I really like the mobility of the "stroma".
I know you guys don't read every comment anymore but I would like War Thunder/Gaijin to implement these quality of life feature :
1. Per aircraft convergence setting, fuel count, and bomb fuse.
2. I would also like a more specific convergence like 550 meter for example and more specific bomb fuse time like 2.5 sec and maybe a more specific plane fuel count between the lowest and the 2nd one(this one might be for balance reason so... maybe a no)
3. Tank and plane lights for aesthetic reason, can maybe even be used to blind those infrared/night vision user in the new update
4. Per aircraft bullet ammo information, like muzzle velocity and other stuff, for instances specific information for like say I bullet, API, APHE and other stuff
5. Add the ability to reset default Decals on some vehicle that comes with the default historical decal in case someone misplaced it or delete the decal on accident
6. Add the ability to grind out basic crew to expert, I mean you guys already have the system for the ace crew, why not both?
7. Thanks in advance for making such a great game
PS:
-Wellington Mk X engine are wrong, speed are worse than the Mk 3 and had .3 br higher. mk 3 uses the Bristol Hercules XI 14 cylinder radial engine which is correct according to the wikipedia, but the mk X uses Bristol Hercules VI cylinder radial engine which is worse than the mk 3 one and according to the wikipedia the wellington mk X uses the
"Wellington B Mark X
The most widely produced variant of which 3,804 were built. It was similar to the Mark III except for the 1,675 hp (1,250 kW) Hercules XVIII powerplant. The Mark X was the basis for a number of Coastal Command versions. A total of 3,803 were built at Chester and Blackpool."
-Thanks for fixing the female voice
Attempt (8)
What would you say about introducing (at least in Sim Battles) the sun blinding effect that would add much more strategy and thinking to one's flying? You know, attacks from the side of the sun etc.
17:30 I imagine the propellor also makes a lot of noise, so as long as it’s spinning, you can’t really silence your plane
Any chance we will see the A-4 Skyhawks? They were incredibly important attack planes for a large number of countries.
Plans for updating the aircraft carriers to modern carriers like : nimitz class or the kitty hawk class??
as a guy who only really plays AA I think the tunguska's best suit is it's firing rate of the bullets which they didn't even look at
When will we see a line of British Armoured Cars and Wheeled Tanks in War Thunder? The United Kingdom and Commonwealth has dozens of machines that could be added in War Thunder spread from rank 1 to 7!
It is surprising that a nation that used armoured cars so much only has two AA versions and the Daimler in the standard tech tree!
"Fire and forget" LOL 😆
I’ll save you some time.
*2S6 obviously*
OTOMAGIC
meh... the ADATS is probably a better pick
ADATS is the best by far
Keep up the humour Bruce! and keep these vids coming WT!
Hi, could you make it so that which crewmember(s) has NVD is viewable in the X-ray viewer? Similar to how gun stabilizers are displayed on the breach and barrel. Thanks!
These episodes should all have the same title:
"Hey! Check out all these cool vehicles and modifications and ammo upgrades that you will likely never get to try because you didn't happen to discover and join this game almost 10 years ago!
Good luck with your excruciating grinding through lower tiers getting destroyed again and again by players with years of experience on you, only to give up at tier 3 or 4 vehicles!"
The sabot at beginning should not be spinning because the Abrams uses a smooth bore barrel
The M1 and M1IP used a M68 rifled gun, and thus Gaijin is right on this one.
Teo D yes, but shooting sabots through rifled barrels decreases accuracy and overall effectiveness severely
@@maniac117 No it doesn't.
Teo D not in game, I meant irl. The rotation with straight fins can alter the direction and decrease accuracy
@@maniac117 The find are there to cancel out the rotation.
Mogami? Hipper? When will the reviews happen for all the new ships in game? (Also keep up the good work Bruce!)
WHENS THE COLD WAR BRITISH FIGHTERS GETTING RELEASED
swift hunter vampire and so on are from cold war
Nature Mad When the Americans get the F-35.
Gaijin said they are working on the english electric lightning
@Bleagle what do you mean?
Bleagle you’re funny kid
The missile knows where it is...
At all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.
Are you ever going to add mission editor to tanks like there is for planes because I love that mode
When is airfield AA going to get a buff? I'm fkin tired of being spawn camped and strafed as I'm trying to rearm and repair.
Noooooo dont buff that bs
@@shrekrecker why not? Every ai aa in the game is at least 2x stronger than airfield as I swear. Airfield as needs to be stronger, and they need to put a time limit on how long you can be stationary on the airfield. When the timer goes off they need to force you to take off rather than air spawn you to keep you from having an advantage. That seems better. In top tier jets you are not safe on your airfield. In low tier you're semi safe but the fact is, airfield is supposed to be safe enough to land and repair but not to the point where bombers cant drop bombs
Edit: Can't
@@gamesinv61 top tier should have sams missles launch at you if you get close but you could still dodge them. And people who camp on their airfield should be executed, especially in props
@@shrekrecker I understand the airfield camping part, I addressed that. Give you a timer that if you don't take off within lets say 120 seconds, you will be forced to take off of the airfield. But, not get an air spawn. Have a forced instructor take off the aircraft without any consent, so as you don't get an unfair advantage over other aircraft if they were in the vicinity. Top tier AA, in fact, should get sams. I understand and completely agree with that. You can dodge them, but they give added protection to fighters who want to strafe you after you land. Maybe sams paired with 20mm aa guns or something that can ward them off and not necessarily laser beam them out of existence, like in star trek.
Why get bomb by the bomber? They few thousend meter hight, the AA cant reatch that hight. The bomber must be kill by a plane. If enemy plane(not bomber) is attacking the air field, yes the AA can distroy that enemy plane.
Is there a shooting range episode about night witches? If not , it would make a good history pages !
Another thing i would like to point out is bomber defenses. i have a near maxed out bomber crew, and upon reading the skills of the gunners, those skills do not effect manual gun control. They only effect AI gunner control. When do you ever see a fighter getting as close as .2km? Maybe in a dive, maybe if they aren't that smart. But, when do you let AI gunners actually gun? Not a lot of the time. The majority of shooting down aircraft is you, the pilot, using the gunners. Not the AI. I feel like the defensive crew points should somewhat effect your gunning as well, and not just the AI. They never really shoot at an enemy unless you're in bomb sight/not paying attention. I know this is probably too much to ask, but i think this could help with the survivability of bombers if you make some of the crew skills effect your actual control over the gunners.
Can you talk about the supersonic gunkill or why the f4 doesn't have a internal gun, that's something great to learn about
3rd try, when will we get the baracuda, albacore, and fulmar in british tech tree , or johnson Paul defiant as a premium. It's in need of torpedo bombers
I have a question do u start out playinf ww2 vehicals or can u choose what era u start in?
will we get more advanced vehicle customization like adding/removing mud guards & side skirts on tanks like the M4 shermans or panthers?
What you guys ever consider an option to take the air out of tires to give them more traction in sand and snow
Do you have planned to add the lav-ad which carries a vulcan and stinger sam?
Swedish tree when?!
attempt #40
Likely soon given how the VT1-2 is functionally similar for the Strv 103
@@FireWarrior2013 your mom is functionally similar to the Strv 103
Asif Talpur BRUH just no
@@asiftalpur3758 Bruh
@@asiftalpur3758 Bruh. You really tried to make a your momma joke?
Can you consider adding exterior fuel tanks in facture update, you could sacrifice longer flight time for payload and etc.
Now can you make a Triathlon about Derp Gun from every country?
Is there any chance for more WT cinematic trailers like the heroes", "Victory Is ours" and "The Battle is on" trailers?
Now you just have to balance the spaa's making the adats 11.0 and decreasing the br of the spaa's that didn't make into the top 3
Or put them all up to 12.0 and keep them in their set places but adjust the seats and other AA higher, accordingly to their abilities. They just need to fix all the best tbh
Do a Pages of history of the "brazilian air force", a important army that help the allies in italy.
@Dex4Sure 1942 to 1945 Brazil had its naval and airforces helping the allies in the Atlantic and also sent expeditionary forces to assist in Italy.
@Dex4Sure also the British were not important as they heavily relied on their empire for a lot of their troops.
Will we get an explanation about how afterburners work and how they help add thrust to a jet?
Will there be any chance that the Rooikat would be added as part of a Commonwealth tree or as a potential high tier recon TD premium wheeled vehicle for the British tree?
Will you add the Maus and Tiger 2 105 as squadron vehicles?
hey bruce, one question: there are killcams for tanks and ships. Why are there no killcams for aircraft? i would like to know where my enemy rips off my wing or hits my fuel tank...
Friggin love the ADATS.
But you're surely a priority target when spotted...
Hey there gajin, are u planing to add the bf109 k14 at some point? (3rd time i ask :) )
When will we get the EE-T1 "Osório"?
Thank you Gaijin, I found this Hotline section better)
Another pro for the adats is it's self defence or offence against MBTs with its tandom warhead.
It is an aa competition but if you need to kill an MBT and the adats missiles are even better then it's apds rounds. Comparing to the Tunguska who can only really destroy the barrel/tracks unless you skilled enough to make a roof shot or the mistral who can only use its autocannons. Not the most important thing but I thought I'd mention it
I like how they put kind tiger 6.7 vs is6 which is a 7.8 i think mmmm plis ilfix mach making
Is-6 isnt a problem wtf and is 7.3.... Matches against 8.3 which means: Helicopters, Is 7, very advanced tanks, etc.
L2p the King Tiger is a beast when you know how to use it
Will u add the black knight project to challenge 2 and the new rehinmetal gun when they make it
Is there any way to increase the chance of getting night maps
Could thermals or at least NV be stock since it's such a huge advantage on night maps?
Jack Ozbloke just like parts and fpe on every map... oh wait we don’t get them either
Gaijin needs your shekels. So no
Gaijin, could you please increase experience points recieved by killing a tank with heli (at least to 1/2 of experience points recieved by shooting down another helicopter)? Now it's such a grind to research next helicopter. And what about splitting (German, Italian, Japanese and Chinese) vehicles to fractions (Allies, Axis, NATO and states in its sphere of influence, Warsaw pact and states in its sphere of influence), that they have fought for (at least in SB)? For example Italian R3s - NATO, Italian Sherman - Allies, Japanese Sherman - NATO, T-34-85 - Allies, Warsaw pact... If that will be implemented Germans will be able to get more Soviet planes, helicopters and even tanks!
I just want to thank you for being the first english speacking person to correctly pronounciate CENTAURO. Nailed it.
He did it correctly in the past as well
In future events will there be the possibility to unlock the vehicles by the old way in addition to the new way? That way if people want to challenge themselves and complete tasks they do it the old way and if they want to build it together they can do it the new way.
Ngl at 10:54 the way he said round 1 was badass af
can you pls put in more detail into the drivers view
Can you add infantry and ground attack aircrafts like the a10?
Gaijin, can we see a pages of history on the early years of jet fighters or on the first ejection seats?
Will you ever add animations for belt fed machineguns? Also how modern of planes do you guys want to go? Cheers!
Hey Gaijin, is a gamemode where it takes 3 people to control a vehicle (Driver, gunner and commander) without sharing the keyboard, possible in the near future?
Ecaps barely enough players for one per tank, this ain’t happening although it would be cool
We all want be decompression first
PvE version of this would be great tbh.
they already said no
Speaking of armored cars, will we ever see the Stryker MGS in game? I would love an American top tier armored car.
can you make a danish pack with the leopard one and try searching on operation bøllebank danish military
Is it possible to switch back to the ancient gunner view, before the parralax correction ?
How do I switch to driver view then? Also Is there the capability to have my gunners target ground targets, I enjoy gun shipping in medium bombers after I release all of my bombs.
My favourite spaa is any tank on a slope facing up
How to properly aim the optical sightscope in the ships ?
How do you look around your tank without turning the turret?
Can you add measuring tool for the map in tank batles?
Would we ever see the lav-25 or the BTR series in game also the American Striker with the 105mm gun?
its been a full year since this was uploaded :D
For the next metal beasts could we see the ZSU-57-2?
Hey Bruce. Can you tell the devs to add some more Canadian vehicles? Like the ADATS, Skink, CF-100and the Sexton?
Will we get more wheeled vehicles for high and low br
Can you make it so that you can make a lineup of non major nations? What I mean is for example lend lease vehicles that crossover different nations, for example having the Italian/Romanian SM 79 and Hs 129, or the IAR 81, etc in one lineup?
What is the difference in the shot you take, when your ammo rack explodes, or you lose ammo?
Can u tell us what tanks have thermal sights or night vision?