It's not a Mark IV. It is actually its prewar predecessor SS of about 1938 - a much rarer model than the Mk IV. Body design and mechanicals are mostly similar and often interchangeable. The more obvious telltale differences are the external spare wheel on the left wing and the door handles in the door panels instead of in the chrome trim. These and many other subtle differences were changed for 1939 and were then carried over to the 1945 to 1948 Mark IV models. This post-war time was also when the Jaguar stand-alone brand name came into being because they could not use the SS term because of its connotation with the war. Putting this film depiction into context, a 1930s or 1940s car in 1961 was just an old car, almost worthless, much superseded and extremely outdated by comfort, performance, reliability, and technological improvements. Nobody was repairing or restoring them, so the parts were generally unwanted. Then, they were not classics. The same relative desire exists today - if we have an economic choice, we prefer not to buy a 1990s car for all the same reasons. If anyone had a choice in 1961 they would not buy one of these or anything like them (except my brother, who had to in 1962 because he could not afford anything better).
In the comments here let’s forget the 90s comparisons the film is more about the SS and Mark 4 Jaguar, far more beautiful than any 80s 90s naughties and so on cars ever will be
@@zorroalphonso4354 Utter rubbish, the argument of "relative desires" is valid even if the change in vehicle technology between the start and end of the two eras is not the same.
I Agree. Just look at car chase scenes in 1970s films MK2 Jags were the cars of choice to be blown up after crashing into a pile of boxes. In the 1975 film Brannigan a 4.2 E type was hurled into the rover Thames to explode.
I bought a 1946 MGTC in running condition in 1966, complete but with bad paintwork. It had been painted with a brush in a sickly green by the farmer in Hexham, England who owned it. I drove it home and resprayed it in blue and ran it for a year almost problem free. I paid 80 quid for it, as such 20 year old crocks then were worth nothing much. Sold it for 140 quid, thought I made a killing! The reg was HYX 974 - anyone seen it lately?
The whole British thing of wearing a tie went right thru probably into the 80s. I mean even the butcher would wear a tie. But I did notice he had a suit jacket on while using the cutting torch. Some were "sports jackets" which look like a suit but not quite consider as dressing up. Bit like a tweed jacket. Farmers go out to shoot a few rabbits in a tweed jacket which is like a crap color suit. Many older farmers still wear them today.
Except it's not a Jaguar Mk 4. The side mounted spare means it's a 1936 or 1937 SS Jaguar saloon. These cars were wooden framed; the 1938 and following cars were all-steel bodied with the spare in a compartment under the boot floor. Which is part of how Lyons was able to keep the costs down. I see Peter Lloyd has made a similar observation.
Heartbreaking. That car was of a far better design and quality than much of the trash being sold new in showrooms in 1961...saw another reel of a 1957 Vauxhall Victor completely rusted out and abandoned in 1963.
yeah we scrapped second hand 10 year old Corollas and Fords like they're worth nothing, our sons and grandsons will say the same thing to us, we'd scrap old 2010's classics left and right and left them with the 2050s crap
How can you watch this ill fated classic go to its doom in the local scrap yard, and not shed a tear or two, Imagine a modern classic car restorer seeing this, Does not bear thinking about.
At today's prices, £60,000 - 225,000. During the 1973 oil crisis I used to watch all - MkII Jaguar banger racing. Some of them had less than 50k on the clock, but were too thirsty to keep so were scrapped. Many beautiful cars reduced to wrecks. Worth a fortune now. Such is life!
A guy I worked with in the eighties used to do a bit of banger racing in the seventies, his favorite car was an Austin Westminster or Wolseley 6/110 with a 3 speed box, second gear being the ideal ratio on a tight oval.
I had a mark1 TGH 175 saw it in a scrap yard Cheltenham Road Gloucester in the 7o's.What I remember was the rear wheels were wider than the front and made the car very skiddish.Jags of that age were so desitable then so nice to see you are restoring one,plenty of mark 2 not so many mark 1.
Related to this film/comments there's a celebrated bit of stock footage used in old ITC programmes (Randall & Hopkirk, The Saint, etc) of a white Mk1 hurtling off a cliff. So whenever you saw a character climbing into a white Mk1 (or 2) you knew what was coming. You can find it on UA-cam.
The Jag driver was Bob Wellings. You know, from BBC 1's 'Nationwide'? That was an early evening light news programme from the late sixties to the early eighties. If you wanted to see a skateboarding duck, or a man standing on an egg without breaking it, that was the show for you.
That's right! Bob Wellings! I understand that he had a fondness for American cars as well and by the 1970's had a small collection of full size Cadillacs, all of them fairly new rather than '40s and '50s classics - one of which was a beautiful 1972 Cadillac Fleetwood!
Can you imagine the mess thousands of old 'classic' cars would make. Plus if they had all been saved they would be worthless today because they would not be rare or novel. Although money can be made from old cars, the storage costs eat up a good part of that and good luck finding someone to fix them properly and at a fair price.
Been brought up in a scrap car yard in the 70s and visiting many other yards i find nothing surprising in this film even though it was made a decade or so earlier. Big old cars in the early 70s were value less as petrol was expensive and our yard cut up many jags, daimlers, humbers , mercs etc etc for scrap. Breakdown trucks run on trade plates with no MOT and we only fixed ours when it stopped or parts fell off or brake pipes burst! . Many of older generation scrap men wore ties and old suit jackets for work as i remember and this film and methods are a joy to watch i would gladly go back there NOW to these times before the f__king environment agency was thought off
Yeah, much better when YOU could just take a car in and remove it's drain plugs, releasing oil and ethylene glycol straight onto the mud/ watercourse eh???? CR3TIN!!!
Some of the cars iv'e scrapped in the 35 years that i have been driving makes me sick, worth a good few thousand now some of them even as a scrapper :'(
The old Bedford army truck look's as if it should have gone to the breakers yard too. Look at the state of it! My goodness a pity that the MkIV ended up being broken.
A haulage company I worked at in the 1960's had two of these Bedford's. Bought from MOD auctions as artics, then fitted with tipper bodies to deliver coal and clay .
Remember scrapyards, which were quite common then were interesting places to look around, remember now, 20s cars being parked up with opening windscreens, features Id never seen before
Except luxury/sports cars, none of them I suspect. Cars these days lack character and are basically moving chairs with sat navs. You'll often see for example people who grew up in the 60s look and smile when they see a car from their youth go past, you wouldn't catch me looking and smiling in 50 years time when someone drives past in say, a seat ibiza.
I think another problem is the way they manufacture them. They are not made to be taken apart and be put back together, that will discourage people from restoring them: I managed to take the windscreen out of a Peugeot 205 to repair some rust around the window seam but when my mothers Peugeot 306 needed the same work done the window was glued in place and could not be taken out, so I never repaired that rust.
If every car had been saved, they'd have no value and we'd have consumed most of our metal resources to keep cars around that nobody is even driving, assuming they even run. Only scarcity preserves the value of the ones that are left anyway.
@johnsoncm65 Not entirely true, the market is what preserves the value. and scarcity is only one of many factors that determines the market. People still restore UAZ Hunter and Landrover Defender despite the fact that one is still in production and the other just came out of production a few years ago and non of those are scarce in their markets.
Such a shame but these now classics were used and literally run into the ground, I think people kept car's longer in those day's and of course there was no M.O.T.the spare wheel on the Jag was completely bald, vehicles were just discarded back then and,were I live there was an old chalk stone quarry and it was used for what we call today landfill and I know for a fact there's two,Jowet Javelin's a,Humber Hawk and a Standard Vanguard and god know's how many motorcycles all down there never to be seen again.
It's funny everyone talks about saving and restoring anything but very few actually do it. Ready to devote many thousands of dollars and many many working hours? Yeah, didn't think so.
No it doesn’t. It sells for whatever someone feels it may be worth to them. the amount of restoration done, The receipts for said restoration, and most importantly, how long ago the restoration was completed. just because something is old doesn’t guarantee a sale for such high prices or that you own a goldmine.
That tow truck was probably ex WD. We had one in 1952, thought that was the bees knees. We never did a suspended tow like in the film, we always had a chain from the car to the truck to stop the car swinging about and if it did break loose the chain would stop it doing damage to other road users. This film brought back so many memory's, did you notice that all the tyres were bald. The bloke knew how to use a oxy.propane gun, you can tell that from the way that he didnt press the trigger down fully, the suit was just for the film.
The square-face Bedford M-type was only built for the forces, as a 15 cwt truck, with the similar O-type as a 3-tonner, artic tractor etc. Many were in service long after the war, and I remember they were everywhere in the 1950s and 60s as coal lorries, wreckers etc.
Why do I feel like a just witnessed a murder
Me too
I remember seeing a mark 10 in my local scrapers years ago nothing wrong with it but my goodness it was big😂
Agree
Even without sound that car was screaming help me looks like many useable parts were just destroyed what a waste.
Geezer with a gas axe wearing a tie and whistle !!!☻☻
Aaaaaaahhhhh, that Jag would be worth a fortune today!!
Yes, I agree!
It's not a Mark IV. It is actually its prewar predecessor SS of about 1938 - a much rarer model than the Mk IV. Body design and mechanicals are mostly similar and often interchangeable. The more obvious telltale differences are the external spare wheel on the left wing and the door handles in the door panels instead of in the chrome trim. These and many other subtle differences were changed for 1939 and were then carried over to the 1945 to 1948 Mark IV models. This post-war time was also when the Jaguar stand-alone brand name came into being because they could not use the SS term because of its connotation with the war.
Putting this film depiction into context, a 1930s or 1940s car in 1961 was just an old car, almost worthless, much superseded and extremely outdated by comfort, performance, reliability, and technological improvements. Nobody was repairing or restoring them, so the parts were generally unwanted. Then, they were not classics.
The same relative desire exists today - if we have an economic choice, we prefer not to buy a 1990s car for all the same reasons. If anyone had a choice in 1961 they would not buy one of these or anything like them (except my brother, who had to in 1962 because he could not afford anything better).
Car technology evolved more between the 40's and the 60's than between the 1990's and the 2010's. So the argument of "relative desires" is moot.
In the comments here let’s forget the 90s comparisons the film is more about the SS and Mark 4 Jaguar, far more beautiful than any 80s 90s naughties and so on cars ever will be
@@zorroalphonso4354
Utter rubbish, the argument of "relative desires" is valid even if the change in vehicle technology between the start and end of the two eras is not the same.
I Agree. Just look at car chase scenes in 1970s films MK2 Jags were the cars of choice to be blown up after crashing into a pile of boxes. In the 1975 film Brannigan a 4.2 E type was hurled into the rover Thames to explode.
I bought a 1946 MGTC in running condition in 1966, complete but with bad paintwork. It had been painted with a brush in a sickly green by the farmer in Hexham, England who owned it. I drove it home and resprayed it in blue and ran it for a year almost problem free.
I paid 80 quid for it, as such 20 year old crocks then were worth nothing much. Sold it for 140 quid, thought I made a killing! The reg was HYX 974 - anyone seen it lately?
Dudes had style back then, wearing a suit using a cutting torch lol...
The whole British thing of wearing a tie went right thru probably into the 80s. I mean even the butcher would wear a tie. But I did notice he had a suit jacket on while using the cutting torch. Some were "sports jackets" which look like a suit but not quite consider as dressing up. Bit like a tweed jacket. Farmers go out to shoot a few rabbits in a tweed jacket which is like a crap color suit. Many older farmers still wear them today.
and tie!
@@Magnetron33 kept the draughts out outside and in the mostly un-centrally heated buildings. Plus an open collar looked untidy.
That tow truck looks to be in worse shape than the car it was bringing in .
Yeah it looks like it’s about to fall apart. No doubt it has met the same fate as its haul.
Worse thing in the yard.
Ah, but it *ran*.
@@chrishamilton2559 you call that running.
@@tellmesomething2go you children know nothing of the concept of *work* or the associated tools thereof.
Except it's not a Jaguar Mk 4. The side mounted spare means it's a 1936 or 1937 SS Jaguar saloon. These cars were wooden framed; the 1938 and following cars were all-steel bodied with the spare in a compartment under the boot floor. Which is part of how Lyons was able to keep the costs down. I see Peter Lloyd has made a similar observation.
All he had to do, was to clean dead flies outta the radiator, and (possibly) completely remove the thermostat.
Heartbreaking. That car was of a far better design and quality than much of the trash being sold new in showrooms in 1961...saw another reel of a 1957 Vauxhall Victor completely rusted out and abandoned in 1963.
yeah we scrapped second hand 10 year old Corollas and Fords like they're worth nothing, our sons and grandsons will say the same thing to us, we'd scrap old 2010's classics left and right and left them with the 2050s crap
people's wasteful attitudes have not changed a bit, we never learn...
How can you watch this ill fated classic go to its doom in the local scrap yard, and not shed a tear or two, Imagine a modern classic car restorer seeing this, Does not bear thinking about.
This is murder
This is the reason they're worth so much now.
The tow truck looks about ready for the scrap heap aswel
I'm just thankful that the followed all safety precautions while using those torches.
Yeah at least his tie didn't catch fire
Cutting a car apart while wearing suit and tie :-D
Sohave
No goggles and a cutting torch...lol dude gonna go blind
Reckon the poms did everything in a suit and tie those days, even sex
@@rogerwilco4736 butchers wore ties even in the 80s. STILL TODAY old farmers were tweed jackets which look like crap color suits.
@@rogerwilco4736 Birthday suit and tie lol
Too bad! A classic body style. Very nice design . Looked like the leather interior might have been intact as well.
At today's prices, £60,000 - 225,000. During the 1973 oil crisis I used to watch all - MkII Jaguar banger racing. Some of them had less than 50k on the clock, but were too thirsty to keep so were scrapped. Many beautiful cars reduced to wrecks. Worth a fortune now. Such is life!
A guy I worked with in the eighties used to do a bit of banger racing in the seventies, his favorite car was an Austin Westminster or Wolseley 6/110 with a 3 speed box, second gear being the ideal ratio on a tight oval.
Billy, you are on camera tomorrow! Ok, Dave... I'll wear my best suit when cutting up that old jag!
I'm currently restoring a 1959 Jaguar Mk1 like the car overtaking at the beginning of the video.
how much is it worth
I had a mark1 TGH 175 saw it in a scrap yard Cheltenham Road Gloucester in the 7o's.What I remember was the rear wheels were wider than the front and made the car very skiddish.Jags of that age were so desitable then so nice to see you are restoring one,plenty of mark 2 not so many mark 1.
Have you completed the restoration of you Mk1 yet? Nice looking car.
Related to this film/comments there's a celebrated bit of stock footage used in old ITC programmes (Randall & Hopkirk, The Saint, etc) of a white Mk1 hurtling off a cliff. So whenever you saw a character climbing into a white Mk1 (or 2) you knew what was coming. You can find it on UA-cam.
That interior was in great shape. Tragic...
Safety equipment?? Ha Ha We don't need no stinkin' safety equipment!
The Jag driver was Bob Wellings. You know, from BBC 1's 'Nationwide'? That was an early evening light news programme from the late sixties to the early eighties. If you wanted to see a skateboarding duck, or a man standing on an egg without breaking it, that was the show for you.
Aha. Recognise him now.
He died recently, 14 days ago.
@@florjanbrudar692 I'm sorry to hear that.
That's right! Bob Wellings! I understand that he had a fondness for American cars as well and by the 1970's had a small collection of full size Cadillacs, all of them fairly new rather than '40s and '50s classics - one of which was a beautiful 1972 Cadillac Fleetwood!
Damn they couldn't fix stupid even in 1961.. just cut up 80 k ..lol 😆
Can you imagine the mess thousands of old 'classic' cars would make. Plus if they had all been saved they would be worthless today because they would not be rare or novel. Although money can be made from old cars, the storage costs eat up a good part of that and good luck finding someone to fix them properly and at a fair price.
Plenty of “welder’s eye” there then!
UEA EAFA = University of East Anglia. East Anglia Film Archive.
Top chaps !
Oh no, my very expensive and rare car has broken down, I know, I will get it scrapped. !!!!!!?????
They weren't expensive or rare at the time, those pre-war cars. Just regarded as old bangers. But that car would be over £100,000 now.
Destroying an old automobile is never a good idea.
Couple of questions. Why would you set it on fire? And secondly, why the hell would you buy another Jag?
4.20, "hey, mate, let me shower you with sparks yet again!"
4:34 Ah yes, a shiny new Mk1; that'll be much more reliable ......
The towing truck seems to be in worse condition than the Jaguar 😉
Imagine if that Jaguar had been dry stored in 1961. It would emerge as a barn find nearly 60 years later in original condition to make big money
...but there's not much gain in sitting it out for 60 years just to see a car appreciate in value.
@@None-zc5vg very true it should have been enjoyed over the years
I can't watch this .....
What a shame to see that. It's a murder.
Been brought up in a scrap car yard in the 70s and visiting many other yards i find nothing surprising in this film even though it was made a decade or so earlier. Big old cars in the early 70s were value less as petrol was expensive and our yard cut up many jags, daimlers, humbers , mercs etc etc for scrap. Breakdown trucks run on trade plates with no MOT and we only fixed ours when it stopped or parts fell off or brake pipes burst! . Many of older generation scrap men wore ties and old suit jackets for work as i remember and this film and methods are a joy to watch i would gladly go back there NOW to these times before the f__king environment agency was thought off
Yeah, much better when YOU could just take a car in and remove it's drain plugs, releasing oil and ethylene glycol straight onto the mud/ watercourse eh????
CR3TIN!!!
Ah, breakers yards. Home to some of the rudest most miserable gits I've ever come across.
Some of the cars iv'e scrapped in the 35 years that i have been driving makes me sick, worth a good few thousand now some of them even as a scrapper :'(
The old Bedford army truck look's as if it should have gone to the breakers yard too. Look at the state of it! My goodness a pity that the MkIV ended up being broken.
A haulage company I worked at in the 1960's had two of these Bedford's. Bought from MOD
auctions as artics, then fitted with tipper bodies to deliver coal and clay .
I'm very sad watching this video.
To get rid of the interior....set it on fire!
cars have feelings
Albion truck. They seemed to have lasted for years..
No eye protection? They are big on safety!
if only they knew
3:27 worst thing to ever do to a car ;-(
No eye protection but he's wearing a necktie!
Real men don't bother with PPE...
This is funny: car breakers working in suit and tie... but no safety goggles!
A crime against humanity
Remember scrapyards, which were quite common then were interesting places to look around, remember now, 20s cars being parked up with opening windscreens, features Id never seen before
Tow truck in worse state than your mota. What u thinking dood
That was painful to watch..
He appears to have bought the same Jag that overtook him at the beginning of the film, hard to make out the numberplate but it looks the same.
Interesting video, today that Jag would have been a treasure. I wonder which cars of today that we will regret getting rid of in the future.
all the expensive ones. nothing changed.
Except luxury/sports cars, none of them I suspect. Cars these days lack character and are basically moving chairs with sat navs. You'll often see for example people who grew up in the 60s look and smile when they see a car from their youth go past, you wouldn't catch me looking and smiling in 50 years time when someone drives past in say, a seat ibiza.
I think another problem is the way they manufacture them. They are not made to be taken apart and be put back together, that will discourage people from restoring them: I managed to take the windscreen out of a Peugeot 205 to repair some rust around the window seam but when my mothers Peugeot 306 needed the same work done the window was glued in place and could not be taken out, so I never repaired that rust.
If every car had been saved, they'd have no value and we'd have consumed most of our metal resources to keep cars around that nobody is even driving, assuming they even run. Only scarcity preserves the value of the ones that are left anyway.
@johnsoncm65 Not entirely true, the market is what preserves the value. and scarcity is only one of many factors that determines the market. People still restore UAZ Hunter and Landrover Defender despite the fact that one is still in production and the other just came out of production a few years ago and non of those are scarce in their markets.
PLEASE TELL US THIS IS A JOKE. THIS IS NEVER ALLOWED. THERE CAN BE CAPITAL PUNISHMENT FOR THIS!
Beautiful looking car.
4:35 - bent windshield Pre-A. And can't imagine scrapyard workers wearing a suit and tie, even then.
thats a better service than the AA
Don't worry about your goggles and gloves boys, but make sure you wear a shirt and tie. We've got standards to maintain.
Must be a racing car, look a at those slicks (half tyres)
it was only about 11-12 years old too! cars didnt last long then
worth a fortune today
Absolute fools scrapping that. If they had put it in a barn and left it for me to find today....
It's usually easier to keep a car like that intact and take parts off as they are needed.
Thats another fine mess
Such a shame but these now classics were used and literally run into the ground, I think people kept car's longer in those day's and of course there was no M.O.T.the spare wheel on the Jag was completely bald, vehicles were just discarded back then and,were I live there was an old chalk stone quarry and it was used for what we call today landfill and I know for a fact there's two,Jowet Javelin's a,Humber Hawk and a Standard Vanguard and god know's how many motorcycles all down there never to be seen again.
This is too painful to watch !
what happend to those leather seats?!
there burnt
mario pompetti What happened to proper grammar? Also a thing of the past.
*SO SAD*
Owning a nearly 30yr old car in 1961 would of been embarrassing, didn't matter what make!
thsts british technology. Nice looking car, but technology totally outdated
disposing of flammable interior parts?.....no problem.
In today's market that car would probably be over 500 to a million dollars you gotta wonder these guys didn't know any better or neither did we
It's funny everyone talks about saving and restoring anything but very few actually do it.
Ready to devote many thousands of dollars and many many working hours? Yeah, didn't think so.
Fabulous English! Son chapeau melon s'est transformé en haut-de-forme...
And to think a new radiator or hoses and this classic would probably be good for the road again.
The lorry pulling it into the yard is in worse condition! Sir William will be turning in his grave!
Health and safety didn't exist lol 😆 blowing though the chassis in a suit 👌
Lets not forget that rare ex army bedford tow truck that was cool as well .
shame to burn... as there Was some usefull body panels in that car
Birol Djoshan and leather.!!
I think this video is giving me sadness 😥😥😥
Funny thing is in the United States Jaguar is still worthless 😆
4:32 I thought my phone was broken
"Inspector Morse ups his auto game". (Today that old MKIV, restored can sell for near 200,000 dollars. The "new" Mark 2? 50k or so )
No it doesn’t. It sells for whatever someone feels it may be worth to them. the amount of restoration done, The receipts for said restoration, and most importantly, how long ago the restoration was completed. just because something is old doesn’t guarantee a sale for such high prices or that you own a goldmine.
Guy I worked with had an ss jaguar only one I've ever seen
Thats the way !
If the cat doesn't listen , toast her !
😂
Che furbo che è stato a demolire quella macchina ! Ed anche il rottamaio un'altra bella volpe !
Welcome to consumerism!
I can’t believe people have totally fallen for this ! it was produced by harry Enfield and chums a few years ago 🤣
So the car was not actually destroyed?
Would be more interesting with sound 🔊
It's Jacob Rees Mogg
No, i cabt watch, its horrendous
Lads on oxy with no glasses that’s hard to watch 😂
Separating the trim from the metal with 🔥 😂
Waste back than would be worth a fortune today
Aaaagh what would it be worth now. 2021. .??
And a year later he brought the other one cause it rusted out 😂.
So sad. But the new Mk 1 was nice.
That tow truck was probably ex WD. We had one in 1952, thought that was the bees knees. We never did a suspended tow like in the film, we always had a chain from the car to the truck to stop the car swinging about and if it did break loose the chain would stop it doing damage to other road users. This film brought back so many memory's, did you notice that all the tyres were bald. The bloke knew how to use a oxy.propane gun, you can tell that from the way that he didnt press the trigger down fully, the suit was just for the film.
The square-face Bedford M-type was only built for the forces, as a 15 cwt truck, with the similar O-type as a 3-tonner, artic tractor etc. Many were in service long after the war, and I remember they were everywhere in the 1950s and 60s as coal lorries, wreckers etc.
@@davidjones332 Many of those flat-fronted Bedfords retained the tow-bar that came with the military spec.