We have the same weather here in MN. It was well above average temps & then the last week has been cold as hell. Down to 30 below Saturday night & now 4 days later it was in the 30's above today with a big storm with snow & rain coming for Christmas.
Northern farmer exactly I member one guy I worked for his son talked him into buying a JD tractor well the JD computer system wouldn't talk to the new caseih planter when they came out to work on it the mechanic was using a laptop my bosses dad was so mad
The molasses is a treat for them but it does help the dust I also put canola oil with it. The screen we use on barley is finer than yours and the one we use on corn is too big for the barley so it gets quite dusty once it's ground. If you feed the barely in a TMR with silage it doesn't matter but we are just feeding hay in feeders and grain in the bunk so the less dust the better. It makes a big difference on the steers when they are on 30lbs of grain.
Holy mackerel, the warm weather sure did have an effect on Shawn in this video. He started smoking and grew a moustache. Either that or you fed him some of that mixture for lunch.
My nephew found this video for my father. My father is wanting the chart on the side of the grinder. He is teaching the grandkids how to use one and can't remember it all. The chart on his is worn out. Could you / would you please take a picture of that chart for us?
Sure..in fact we were going to pull it out of the shed to grind in the next day or 2. If you want you can email me at ... ty_k9@hotmail.com or if you have Instagram you can message me there at northernfarmerab
Not really.... Its frozern and the hard snow makes it easy for them to clean it right off. We tried the troughs... We would need 30 of them and they always get pushed around by the cows.. and get wrecked.
You know Tina I have been thinking about that, and I was thinking of just getting some made for myself and my family but If your interested I will keep you in mind. I do want to have a logo made up and put up as my picture instead of this one.
Definitely keep me in mind we would probably get 4 ..I really love your videos..does the,wind blow like that all the time up there and do u have trouble with any of your cattle getting hurt by the cold
Awesome... I will write you name down and also get back to me after the new year. The wind blows usually when it gets warm like this... Our cattle are pretty hardy... they grown a thick hair for the winter... We put lots of straw down and they are fine
No Not everyday...we do this a few times a month. We had troughs before... they didnt last and we always had to put them back in a row as the cattle messed them up all the time
Barley is significantly higher energy and less fibre but it must be ground or crushed / rolled otherwise it will go straight through them and you will see whole grains in the dung. Rolled is better - much less dust and more palatable however you can counteract the dust directly by adding molasses or traditionally cod liver oil -both of course are high energy foods. Another approach for us is to use a TMR feed wagon where clamped grass or maize silage is the main source of forage and prepared grains, protein and mins & vits are all added into the mix. The moist forages capture and kill the dust and don't allow stock to be selective about what foods they prefer. The other main advantage for us is to incorpoate food factory / packing house by-product waste such as brewery products, vegetable products, potato sludge, veg waste such as cabbage /carrot/ beetroot /salad foods (but not onion) or other farm grown crops such as sugar beet, fodder beet, potatoes. I have no idea what might be available in your area from various food processors and some are only available at economic prices in the summer but can be successfully clamped in a pit store and fed over winter such as wet brewers grains from the brewery. Many of these foods are high energy but often low protein and have peculiar mineral levels
Thanks Dan, I grind my oats now and mix with ground corn, so if I were to raise Barley I'd still do the same. Just wondering if Barley yields better than oats
larsonvalleyfarm The short answer is yes barley will normally out yield oats simply because it has a higher grist content and much less husk. Autumn planted barley will out yield spring planted barley by about a third but although we can grow it very successfully here I simply don't know if it would survive your sustained winter weather. However if you can grow grain rye successfully planted in the Autumn through to harvest I don't see why you cannot grow it where you are. A few issues you should be aware of: 1) Barley will not tolerate soil acidity well at all, you need a pH 6.5 for it to grow well and adequate amounts of P & K present in the soil or applied as fertilizer. 2) You need to examine the seed house agronomic information about suitable varieties as some are prone to foliar fungal disease especially mildew. Some are also inclined to become laid and not stand too well coming up to harvest although this can be overcome with finger extensions called crop lifters taht lift the crop up enough so that the knife can cut the stems. 3) Apply base levels of nitrogen + added sulphur quite early in the spring to support tillers or stimulate fresh ones if weak and topdress with more N about 4-6weeks later. 4) Beware of planting seed too soon and too thick as this can lead to thick lush growth which then dies back and can smother crops. We call this Winter Kill. If this looks as though it might happen consider offering some free winter grazing to someone with a lot of sheep -it looks mighty severe afterwards but the crop will bounce back in the spring when it gets some N! Sheep also firm the soil around the plant and help to counteract frost heave on the surface as well as returning a little dung to the crop. Be aware that my comments are as if farming in the UK - a more local agronomy advice (college / University) service (or possibly your seedhouse) to you would be best for your soils and weather conditions. Weed control is important and winter planted crops may well two treatments main one in the Autum and a clean up in the spring - these can often be combined with fungicide treatment. An entirely differennt approach is to consider whole crop barley silage where the total crop is harvested when the grain in the ear is at the cheesy stage. Mow it and make pit clamp silage or bale it. Bales will have to be wrapped or bagged and stored on concrete or soft sand so that the plastic is not puctured. Wild birds can be a problem and also rats in this respect - we net ours or cover the bales with thick plastic and put down sealed plastic bags of rat poison as the stack is built. We tend not to make a stack but lay them out in long lines with the flat sides butted up close together as this discourages rats. However would bales of silage freeze solid in your winter weather?
The grinder is pronounced" "O" watonna. Owatonna is a town in Minnesota with Owatonna manufacturing where they were made. I don't know if this company is still in business of if it is defunct or sold to some other company.
Lol.. Keith... My brother pronouces it like that... I was doing it wrong all this time. I havent seen any other hammer mill like this one... or even another piece of equipment like it.
Well that is all right! I just thought the history is of interest. They most likely no longer exist. Keep the videos coming. I find them most interesting.
A the dairy farm I worked the cows would do the same thing and not get in the way so One day I filled the bucket of the loader and dumped it a short way from the gate they all moved down to that and we then could go through the gate and fill the bunks
sounds like you may to cheap to build a place to feed your cows, that your business but if you want to look a profession operation then build a place to feed your cows.
I am looking for a used grain roller just to roll a bit of grain for my chickens, but cant afford new prices. If anyone who is watching from the peace country area and knows of a good used one, maybe you could leave a message...thanks.
Thanks for the memories when you talked about the old way of grinding chop.
Your Welcome Darrel...I wish we still had the tractor for it...
good day. good video, really like cattle & whole part of farming. Shawn reminds me of Tim quiet and smiling Thanks, Merry Christmas & healthy new yr.
Don Voll lol....same to you..Merry Christmas and a happy new year
We have the same weather here in MN. It was well above average temps & then the last week has been cold as hell. Down to 30 below Saturday night & now 4 days later it was in the 30's above today with a big storm with snow & rain coming for Christmas.
Same here just no snow in the forcast....We dont have that much snow at all so far.
great fab vid very good looking cows well looked after and fed instead of right SEAN say OK SEAN take good care my friend
Thanks Gold
cool never seen it spread like that I like how you guys are kinda old school not all fancy computerize and stuff
I hate Computerized crap lol , cause I cant fix it
Northern farmer exactly I member one guy I worked for his son talked him into buying a JD tractor well the JD computer system wouldn't talk to the new caseih planter when they came out to work on it the mechanic was using a laptop my bosses dad was so mad
Yea... I had a guy here that has a newer Massey tractor... it was a nightmare... and the dealer had to come a few hours away..and forgot his laptop
We have a farmhand mill grind oats an barley for the stocker calves !
That's awesome I've got to grind Barley today I just picket up some molasses to mix in it to help the dust. It's still dusty
I never heard of doing that for the dust.... Learn something new everyday
The molasses is a treat for them but it does help the dust I also put canola oil with it. The screen we use on barley is finer than yours and the one we use on corn is too big for the barley so it gets quite dusty once it's ground. If you feed the barely in a TMR with silage it doesn't matter but we are just feeding hay in feeders and grain in the bunk so the less dust the better. It makes a big difference on the steers when they are on 30lbs of grain.
Had a friend in Arizona he had 3 Owatonna wind rowers the green were with stick steering and the newer one was the color of Alice Chalmers tractors .
Cool... Id like to see those.... I guess google it is,,,,
that mill looks huge.my brother has a small GEHL.
randall weuve I have seen a few of that model grinder
That's a lot of barley to make beer with!
looks just like our grinder.
They are all pretty similar hey Travis... What Make is yours?
Holy mackerel, the warm weather sure did have an effect on Shawn in this video. He started smoking and grew a moustache. Either that or you fed him some of that mixture for lunch.
Darrel S haha.... that's my brother...Shaun left after the load was done
Those 6x6 are a beast!
They are a Good Work Vehicle..... it can tow and carry a lot
do you have electric dump on it?
No I wish it did... but its ok for now.
we have the 800 mid size here and we love it. hard to get L off of it when I need it
This is a 800 to
My nephew found this video for my father. My father is wanting the chart on the side of the grinder. He is teaching the grandkids how to use one and can't remember it all. The chart on his is worn out. Could you / would you please take a picture of that chart for us?
Sure..in fact we were going to pull it out of the shed to grind in the next day or 2. If you want you can email me at ... ty_k9@hotmail.com or if you have Instagram you can message me there at northernfarmerab
wouldn't there be less waste if you put your grain in troughs ?
DAVID TOBIAS cows generally destroy troughs unless you get stone ones put in
Not really.... Its frozern and the hard snow makes it easy for them to clean it right off. We tried the troughs... We would need 30 of them and they always get pushed around by the cows.. and get wrecked.
Great stuff, where are you located?
Thanks... Im in Alberta
I was wondering if you have shirts that has your logo ..would love to have one..love your videos..I would love to have a farm
You know Tina I have been thinking about that, and I was thinking of just getting some made for myself and my family but If your interested I will keep you in mind. I do want to have a logo made up and put up as my picture instead of this one.
Definitely keep me in mind we would probably get 4 ..I really love your videos..does the,wind blow like that all the time up there and do u have trouble with any of your cattle getting hurt by the cold
Awesome... I will write you name down and also get back to me after the new year. The wind blows usually when it gets warm like this... Our cattle are pretty hardy... they grown a thick hair for the winter... We put lots of straw down and they are fine
Thank you so much..you have some really pretty cattle
Your Very Welcome
look at you, almost half nekkid, must be warm. barley is great hog feed too
Jay Groom my fur hat will be back on right away this week
that's no fun. just to clarify, you mean in addition to warm clothes or only the hat?? :)
What is sun up and sundown this time of year in your area? In other words how many hours of daylight do you have on the shorties day of the year.
Today is the shortest day. It was sunrise at 9:20am and sunset at 4:15
What breeds do you use for cows and bulls in your herd?
R MacK Charolais...red angus..black angus
We grind all our feed twice a week we grind and mix what we need. we run a JD 700 its been good for us!!
Id like to find another grinder sometime...
Heard on the news that it is going to be almost 32 degrees F or 0 Degrees C at the north pole today. Thats 50 degrees F above average.
Jon Matthews that's crazy
thanks for the video
Welcome STan
What the best grinder mixer for feed sheeps ? I want to buy one ,what recommended?
Any of them are good..but new Holland is one if the best
@@Northern_Farmer thank you for your replying
How did you dry your Barley?.
Mother Nature dryed that barley... I used the dryer to dry the rest that was to wet... which wasnt to much
Thanks.
do you have to do this everyday?and why do you feed on the ground why not in a trough ore something ?
R de Kort Troughs don't last very long around cattle, unless you can aford to make massive masonary works.
No Not everyday...we do this a few times a month. We had troughs before... they didnt last and we always had to put them back in a row as the cattle messed them up all the time
Better than a truck load of 5 gallon pails feeding cows, getting run over. Don't miss that at all
Aaron Starko aww come on Aaron you can help
Northern farmer ha. with a few beers maybe!
How does Barley compare to oats for feed value? I always mix oats with my corn but Barley makes better straw, I may have to switch to Barley!
Barley is significantly higher energy and less fibre but it must be ground or crushed / rolled otherwise it will go straight through them and you will see whole grains in the dung. Rolled is better - much less dust and more palatable however you can counteract the dust directly by adding molasses or traditionally cod liver oil -both of course are high energy foods.
Another approach for us is to use a TMR feed wagon where clamped grass or maize silage is the main source of forage and prepared grains, protein and mins & vits are all added into the mix. The moist forages capture and kill the dust and don't allow stock to be selective about what foods they prefer.
The other main advantage for us is to incorpoate food factory / packing house by-product waste such as brewery products, vegetable products, potato sludge, veg waste such as cabbage /carrot/ beetroot /salad foods (but not onion) or other farm grown crops such as sugar beet, fodder beet, potatoes.
I have no idea what might be available in your area from various food processors and some are only available at economic prices in the summer but can be successfully clamped in a pit store and fed over winter such as wet brewers grains from the brewery.
Many of these foods are high energy but often low protein and have peculiar mineral levels
Thanks Dan, I grind my oats now and mix with ground corn, so if I were to raise Barley I'd still do the same. Just wondering if Barley yields better than oats
Yes Barley makes them fat!!! We will Grind both sometimes .. half and half
larsonvalleyfarm
The short answer is yes barley will normally out yield oats simply because it has a higher grist content and much less husk.
Autumn planted barley will out yield spring planted barley by about a third but although we can grow it very successfully here I simply don't know if it would survive your sustained winter weather. However if you can grow grain rye successfully planted in the Autumn through to harvest I don't see why you cannot grow it where you are.
A few issues you should be aware of:
1) Barley will not tolerate soil acidity well at all, you need a pH 6.5 for it to grow well and adequate amounts of P & K present in the soil or applied as fertilizer.
2) You need to examine the seed house agronomic information about suitable varieties as some are prone to foliar fungal disease especially mildew. Some are also inclined to become laid and not stand too well coming up to harvest although this can be overcome with finger extensions called crop lifters taht lift the crop up enough so that the knife can cut the stems.
3) Apply base levels of nitrogen + added sulphur quite early in the spring to support tillers or stimulate fresh ones if weak and topdress with more N about 4-6weeks later.
4) Beware of planting seed too soon and too thick as this can lead to thick lush growth which then dies back and can smother crops. We call this Winter Kill. If this looks as though it might happen consider offering some free winter grazing to someone with a lot of sheep -it looks mighty severe afterwards but the crop will bounce back in the spring when it gets some N! Sheep also firm the soil around the plant and help to counteract frost heave on the surface as well as returning a little dung to the crop.
Be aware that my comments are as if farming in the UK - a more local agronomy advice (college / University) service (or possibly your seedhouse) to you would be best for your soils and weather conditions.
Weed control is important and winter planted crops may well two treatments main one in the Autum and a clean up in the spring - these can often be combined with fungicide treatment.
An entirely differennt approach is to consider whole crop barley silage where the total crop is harvested when the grain in the ear is at the cheesy stage. Mow it and make pit clamp silage or bale it. Bales will have to be wrapped or bagged and stored on concrete or soft sand so that the plastic is not puctured. Wild birds can be a problem and also rats in this respect - we net ours or cover the bales with thick plastic and put down sealed plastic bags of rat poison as the stack is built. We tend not to make a stack but lay them out in long lines with the flat sides butted up close together as this discourages rats.
However would bales of silage freeze solid in your winter weather?
Thanks for the info Dan. We have made silage bales in the past and the outside 1/2 inch will sometimes freeze, but the bales dont freeze solid.
what year is your 135?
Its a 1998
Way back in archives lol
haha yup
that dont look like fun the cows love that i bett put a little fat on them so they stay warm great video thanks.
Oh yea its always good
Two questions. (Probably been asked before) What's the correct spelling for Shaun/Sean/Shawn? And what's his relationship to you?
First... Nephew
Northern farmer Thanks.
The grinder is pronounced" "O" watonna. Owatonna is a town in Minnesota with Owatonna manufacturing where they were made. I don't know if this company is still in business of if it is defunct or sold to some other company.
Lol.. Keith... My brother pronouces it like that... I was doing it wrong all this time. I havent seen any other hammer mill like this one... or even another piece of equipment like it.
Well that is all right! I just thought the history is of interest. They most likely no longer exist. Keep the videos coming. I find them most interesting.
Yep they have been out of business for quite a while. Were a short line manufacturer. Also built some stuff for John Deere.
How do ya make out with rats around grain shed?They must be a pain in the ass
No Rats in Alberta
Yup..... We are rat Free~
A the dairy farm I worked the cows would do the same thing and not get in the way so One day I filled the bucket of the loader and dumped it a short way from the gate they all moved down to that and we then could go through the gate and fill the bunks
Yea... we sometimes fool them with another tractor going the other way... but they wise up and come running back..
We have a new holland 359 mix mill and a 358
they are good.
Why are the barley being put to the ground and not in troughs.
Dont need them... they clean it up like there was nothing there... Ground is hard packed snow.
Northern Farmer
who would like to eating where you shit, would you not give the cows the same way you like to eat.
roger wilson our cattle shits right into the feed troughs we have they could care less
roger wilson Where does the hay go? On the ground...Where do the cattle graze the summer ground....on the ground....see a trend here?
sounds like you may to cheap to build a place to feed your cows, that your business but if you want to look a profession operation then build a place to feed your cows.
I am looking for a used grain roller just to roll a bit of grain for my chickens, but cant afford new prices. If anyone who is watching from the peace country area and knows of a good used one, maybe you could leave a message...thanks.
big D fan try on Kijiji
Is Sean work for u
No
on the grund why?
Why not.. its frozen... its almost as good as a trough
You must do something with it.
bertas23xx Why?
Do you have a large rat problem, certainly looks like you do with all that feed.
cliff ohandley we don't have rats in alberta
cliff ohandley What are rats?????