In this game you need to stand out, and it is precisely this reason Blogging Theology stands out head and shoulders above other channels. I want to thank brother Louay for his excellency in this topic. JazakAllah khair
I would refer Dr Fatoohi to Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi's tafseer Tafhim Al Quran. This tafseer makes the very same observations that Dr Fatoohi has made about the historical context of the Hyksos kings ruling Egypt and when Yusuf (AS) was established in the land without prejudice as they were both Semitic people. The tafseer further deals with Pharaoh's fear of being driven out of the land by Musa (AS) and links this fear back to the period when Yusuf (AS) was in power when the Hyksos kings were ruling Egypt.
Amazing information, and you will never get enough. May Allah bless you both abundantly and grant you the highest level of paradise. I knew absolutely nothing about Islam until I came across your channel brother Paul and my knowledge keeps growing and my emaan keeps getting stronger and stronger. All thanks to you brother Paul and your noble guests. Jazakallahu Khairan
ما شأءلله، هذا ممتز جدا Thank you Paul and Professor for sharing this. Your methodology, regardless of the outcome, makes the conclusion difficult to be denied
@@rebasingh258 i see your comments on this channel are always negative, why are you people so obsessed with our religion leave us alone if you were so sure we are wrong, your ignorance and misinformation won’t work on us. Bot!
وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله تعالي انتم جواهر غالية لنا. نفتخر نحن المسلمين بكم وبخدماتكم الاسلامية القيمة. ندعواالله الكريم ان يوفقكم لما يحبه ويرضاه من نشر التعاليم الاسلامية ونشر القيم والاخلاق الاسلامية.
watching these two scholars is better than watching any blockbuster movie, so much insight an interesting conversations,I always look forward to Dr. Luay fatoohi episodes. “It is only those who have knowledge among His slaves that fear Allaah” [Faatir 35:28]?.
From. 1:17:45 on “wa inna lajemee’un hatherun” can also be translated and also interperted as “and we are weary of all of them” meaning possibly “all Semits together” or the Jewish Slaves as a group. The lecture is quite interesting and rich on context despite (my apologies) Dr. Louai’s somewhat weak English
To kick us from our land means when the Nile was turned to blood meaning the source of life in Egypt is no more. So people would move to look for a water ... better life .
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!* Allah himself testifies that he has a son and he is the son as Christians understand it! Only the Koran writer was too ignorant to know what Son of God means! Allah's word which created everything is Allah himself too! *The Word Allahs which created everything is the Son of God according to Christianity!*
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!* Son of God are 2 titles one referring to the Word of God and one referring to creation (humans, angels, demons)
Very interesting presentation. Musa (as) had spent 10 years in Asia. It makes sense that pharaoh would suspect that he had allied with some Asiatic power and was an agent on their behalf.
I pray to our One True Creator to guide us and our families and our brothers and sisters from Adam and Eve (peace be upon them both) to the truth. Ameen The One and Only True Eternal Living Creator says: (52. And We inspired Moses: “Travel with My servants by night. You will be followed.” 53. Pharaoh sent heralds to the cities. 54. “These are a small gang. 55. And they are enraging us. 56. But we are a vigilant multitude.” 57. So We drove them out of gardens and springs. 58. And treasures and noble dwellings. 59. So it was. And We made the Children of Israel inherit them. 60. And they pursued them at sunrise. 61. When the two groups sighted each other, the followers of Moses said, “We are being overtaken.” 62. He said, “No; my Lord is with me, He will guide me.” 63. We inspired Moses: “Strike the sea with your staff.” Whereupon it parted, and each part was like a huge hill. 64. And there We brought the others near. 65. And We saved Moses and those with him, all together. 66. Then We drowned the others. 67. In that there is a sign, but most of them are not believers. 68. Surely, your Lord is the Almighty, the Merciful.) Surah 26 ash-shuara ayah 52 to 68 from the Holy Quran the last testament revealed by our Creator Rabbuna Allah Almighty to the last of his prophets Muhammad (peace be upon them all) May our Beautiful Designer the Most High have mercy on us. Ameen
@@rebasingh258 I pray to our One True Creator to guide us to the truth. Ameen Our One Eternal Living Lord Rabbuna Allah Almighty says: (84. Say, “We believe in Allah, and in what was revealed to us; and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs; and in what was given to Moses, and Jesus, and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we submit.” 85. Whoever seeks other than Islam as a religion, it will not be accepted from him, and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers.) Surah 3 al-imran ayah 84-85 from the Holy Quran the last book revealed by our Creator Rabbuna Allah Almighty to the last of his prophets Muhammad (peace be upon them all) May our Beautiful Designer the Most High have mercy on us. Ameen
Thank you very much for this insightful and extremely interesting presentation. Djazakoum Allah khayr professor Fatoohi and Mister Williams. We can also draw a parallel with the hijrah of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, who also fled Mecca to come back later more powerful.
Salam dear Dr. Fatoohi. As you know, I have been watching your videos and reading some of your material but I had missed this video until now as I wrongly thought I had seen it. But I need to tell you that many years ago, I distinctly remember being confused why the Pharoah was telling magicians that they are plotting with Prophet Moses to drive them out of the city...I was confused why the word "city" was used when I read the translation. And I made a dua right then and there for some clarity to come out. And alhamdullilah it just came out. Louay, when you talk about "jamiun, hadhirun"....to support your argument further, the fact that Seti, the father of Ramesses II, was a general and had established Pir-Ramesses just a mere two kilometers away from the Israelites indicates invests "hadithirun" with this historic dimension when Ramesses II is saying "we are cautious..." he may be also including his father and of course himself as he then shifted the entire capital to the city just two km away.... Also "jamiun" also reminds me of Ramesses's concerns with his fights with the Hittites, other Semites, and others who he may worry the Israelites may make the "alliance" with. I also want to add that after seeing some of your material I have seen some parts of videos from the Egyptologist Dr. David Falk. Dr. Falk mentioned that when the Pharoah sent his charioteers after the Children of Israel, it wasn't to capture them as only the infantry had equipment like chains to do that...Dr. Falk said it was to kill a lot of them....and perhaps to capture some later with infantry to follow but mainly to kill or maim them.
Thank you for your comment. There is more to say about the words "jami'un" and "hathirun" but I did not get into that as it mostly involves techincal details of Arabic
@@jabbieforthetruth8757my friend you are mentioning verses that we don’t even know the Author of we can’t use the Bible for critical thought and evidence.
What I understood was following: Joseph came during the time of Hyksos rule and established a monotheistic semite presence in Egypt that allied themselves with the Hyksos. Their presence particularly being felt in the area that would be Pi Ramses. The ancestors of Ramses conquered Egypt, expelled the Hyksos and enslaved their allies, therein the Israelites, and forced classical egyptian religion on them. When Moses came to demand the freedom of the Israelites, Ramses understood it as if Moses wanted to leave Egypt, gain strength in foreign allies and reconquer their homeland in Egypt, i.e. Pi Ramses, and reestablish an asiatic monotheistic kingdom on the nile delta. Thus him [Ramses] accusing Moses in plotting to take the land by using the excuse of just wanting to free his people and leave Egypt. If this is to be true, then this would explain the wierd plot written in the Bible (that being Moses apparantly trying to fool the pharao by saying he only needs the people for a few days). As the scribes must have been confused by pharaohs remarks, and bought into the accusations of pharaoh against Moses. And retold the story as if Moses actually was planning to reinvade egypt by lying to pharaoh that he only wanted the people out in the desert for a few days. This telling being even more confused in later works leading to what we now have in the bible. One detail i appreciate is that Moses is perportadly black in skin colour, something the Hyksos are also believed to be. I imagine this only worsened the xenophobia of Ramses as he would most likely be well aware of that fact. I could though be confusing the Hyksos with some other conquerors. I am not sure and Allah knows best.
Moses had a black skin colour ? how do we know this? I've heard Dr Omar Suleyman make this claim as well, based on ahadith. But I can only guess the Egyptian dynasties would have been fairly racist, so why would pharoah allow his wife to bring up a black skinned child in his household?
@@sparephone8228 the Egyptians werent known to be rasist. In fact black colour in itself ment prosperity and wealth, and for a time their pharohs were black too. They did though, as people do, have reservatioans about foreigners, and looked down on them. I only brought the skin colour of Moses as it might have reminded Ramses of the Hyksos. Again I am hard pressed as to find if they were also black. Tried to find sources on that but failed so you dont have to believe me on this account. Just take it as a possibility.
I don't think the Hyskos were black skinned. They would have resembled the people living in the Arabian peninsula, probably more from Jordan Palestine Syria.
Great scholarly interview 👏 Interesting why this now ?! Recently MQ by Dr Hany just released a video about Moose didn’t miraculous splitting the sea.. !! I believe the Quran is the truth if you open up and empty your cup ( not to refer to Old Testament stories) when approaching the Quran. Who are the Israelis ? They are followers of Moses … and not Jacob
In verse 63 it shows clearly that they said about moses and Aaron that they were magicians who want to “drive” you out of your lands with their magic , because moses was spreading the word of Allah to the pharaoh and his people and not only taking bani israel with him so all the believers were to accompany them on theur journey . And Allah knows best .. regards
Brother Paul thanks for doing whatever you are doing for the ummah but I also have onr request muslims in lndia are dying. Please bring a guest who can throw some light on the issues relavent to musIim community by dealing with arguments lndian musIims have to deal with in their daily life. For eg how communal violance happen in lndia? History of hate against musIims? Understanding hindutva? I really need a very great acadamic whose area must be Indian Poiltics Help us please :')
Wonderful session. Wow. A lot to unpack honestly. It would be fruitful to chop this up into bits and put the info out there, since many segments have interesting tidbits that would benefit those looking for certain subject matters.
I would love to knw if you have done some research regarding gog magog? M hussien has mentioned alot about them. Scythians red haired people etc. Zul qarnain etc. I really believe we should be learning more about them aswell
There is another evidence that what is meant by Pharaoh’s fear is to expel him from his city in verse 63 of Surah 20, where the chiefs of Pharaoh’s entourage said that Moses wanted not only to expel them from their land, but also to eliminate their way of life.
Dr Louay has made a cogent argument for his interpretation and I tend to agree with him. For my part, I thought that the Pharaoh was worried that Moses would lead an uprising/rebellion of the jews and topple the Pharaoh and his ruling class. However, some would say that the jewish slaves would not even dream of overcoming the Pharaoh's army and its people. Therefore, the fear of the Pharaoh that the fleeing jews would form an alliance with the descendants of the alien Hyskos appears to be a better hypothesis.
@@ji8044he litrely proved historical fact for that 🚱 Oldest know written document we have fron Egypt was from ' a priest 2000 bc, he wrote how he hated foreigner as Kings but loved them as slaves, so Pharoah fear is supported by historical facts and Quran ❤️
Quran is miraculous..... and its miracles should be appreciated by many generations till the end of times..... its also especially relevant to guide people thus very concise..... if you see a single word that seems unsignificant in the scheme of guiding people..... like the mention of king instead of pharaoh or the mention of the mont Cudy for the arch..... then know its a miracle that will be discovered by someone in due time...... the same for simple names like the father of abraham peace upon him being ”Azar” .... these simple informations that seems irrelevant to guidance... know they have another objective of proving the credibility of quran
Jazakallah khairan brother. Can we have another similar lecture on how it is Ismail AS that was going to be sacrificed, and not Iskhak AS? You too know bible says it was Isaac AS
I can see it makes sense that Pharaoh was talking about the Israelites expelling Egyptians out of the land they were returning to if indeed the Egyptians were occupying it at the time.
Two points : 1- The stories of Moses and Joseph are parallel and linked in the Quran (Check Nouman Ali Khan video). So maybe Pharaoh was warning the Egyptian elite that they would lose their land again as what happened at the time of Joseph. 2- The Quran mentions that the Israelites took the treasures and lands of Pharaoh in 26:59 and 44:28, i.e., what Pharaoh warned against did come true probably at the time of King Solomon (peace be upon him).
Joseph ben Jacob and Yeshua ben Miriam are most strongly linked, there is an extra link through Moses ben Amram. S12:56, Genesis 46:31-34, 47:11-22. S26:52, 59, 44:17, 28 = Mosaic covenant, Numbers 34:1-12.
I have a possible explanation: Moses was sent to Pharaoh with a dual mission - to proclaim the existence of the one true God and to secure the freedom of the Children of Israel. During the time of Joseph, the Children of Israel held respected social and economic positions in Egypt. The liberation may have been not only about freeing them from Pharaoh's rule but also about returning them to their ancestral city, Avaris. The Exodus, consequently, may not have been the primary objective but rather a consequence of Pharaoh's intentions to eliminate the small number of believers who followed Moses (peace be upon him). I also think that that Israel (peace be upon him, who was a prophet and the son and grandson of prophets) might not have left the so-called promised land of Ibrahim if there had been a command from Ibrahim himself to settle in Egypt.
There is also a date that the Old Testament suggest when the exodus happened. This is in 1 Kings 6 which states “In the four hundred and eightieth[a] year after the Israelites came out of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv, the second month, he began to build the temple of the Lord” Scholars generally agree that the construction of the temple of Solomon started around 960BC and if you add 480 lunar years or 465 Gregorian years to 960, you will arrive to 1425BC. Why lunar years because the old Hebrew calendar is lunar based just like the Muslim calendar and I believe the unisolar Gregorian calendar was only adopted later. Interestingly 1425BC coincides with the demise of Thutmoses iii based on the Egyptian chronology. The Old Testament is silent when it comes to the fate of pharaoh but the Quran is very specific in that pharaoh died together with his troops in the Red Sea. Thutmoses iii is a warrior pharaoh also known as the Napoleon of Egypt. In fact he invaded Palestine and in the battle at Megiddo defeated the Canaanites. He was also the first ruler of Egypt that used the term pharaoh for himself. Prior to this the rulers were just called kings and pharaoh refers to the Great or high house. Perhaps this is what is referred to in the Quran in Surah naziat 79:24 where pharaoh said “I am your lord Most High” when he assumed the term pharaoh for himself.
Dr. Fatoohi came up with the theory that says the Pharao of Moses belonged to the Hexos dynasties which are considered foriegners by the native egyptian culture.
Al-Qamar 54 -44: أَمْ يَقُولُونَ نَحْنُ جَمِيعٌۭ مُّنتَصِرٌۭ ٤٤ Or do they say, “We are all ˹a˺ united ˹front˺, bound to prevail.”? this verse make your translation a very possible meaning
The conclusion on the pharaoh of the exodus is based on the assumption that there is only one pharaoh whereas in the Old Testament it mentions a few pharaohs. If you look at the verse you quoted قَالَ أَلَمْ نُرَبِّكَ فِينَا وَلِيدًا وَلَبِثْتَ فِينَا مِنْ عُمُرِكَ سِنِينَ He said, "Did we not raise you as a child, and did you live among us for years of your life?" Dr, I think the using of the word “We” and “us” in the Quran has significant implications because it denotes plurality or a number of pharaohs rather than a single person. If it were one pharaoh then using the word “I” would have profound and deep implication and will accentuate the point to Musa AS because he was the one that raised Musa in the palace. But rather the word “We” is used in the Quran. It can be very easily concluded that the pharaoh that Musa AS faced upon return to Egypt from Madyan was using the plural word “We and us”and he is referring to him and the pharaohs before him. For example, if it was Thutmoses iii that Moses was facing and Moses grew up in the court of Thutmoses ii who is the father of Thutmoses iii, then there is nothing wrong for him to say “Didn’t we raise you as a child and you lived amongst us”. In fact if your claim is true that there is only one pharaoh, then the verse would read “Didn’t I raise you as a child and you lived with me”. Then it would be conclusive that the pharaoh is only one pharaoh and it is a direct message from the pharaoh that raised him and lived with him in the royal palace. The Quran didn’t say that and by using “we and us” the Quran implies that there are more than one pharaoh involved.
Genesis 17:20 “As for Ishmael, I have heeded you. I hereby bless him. I will make him fertile and *exceedingly* numerous. He shall be the father of twelve chieftains, and I will make of him a *great nation.”* The numerical value of these words is identical 92 =מחמד= Mohammed’s name 92 = בִּמְאֹ֣ד מְאֹ֑ד= exceedingly greatly 92 = לְג֥וֹי גָּדֽוֹל = A Great nation This was in Hebrew Bible for thousands of years, amazing how God plans everything.
That is very beautiful as Muslims we don’t reject all of what is in the bible instead we use the Quran as the Furqan to know what has been kept and what has been changed ❤
Thank you Paul for bringing up historical evidence from the Quran. Yes. Why would Pharaoh reject Moses request to exit Egypt with his people. Then, claim this is going to make him lose power. Moses came prior to King David and King Solomon. Pharaoh apprehension was correct. However, doctor Louay interpretation of 'Jami un hadhirun' is not convincing at all. The way i understand it is 'we are unified and alert'. - unity is in conjunction with disorganised. Alert is in conjunction with small. He was trying to rationalize. This is after the wizards fell down in prostration to Allah miracles. 1:04 شرذمة قليلون جملة خبرية أفادت عدم الخوف منهم. انا لجميع حاذرون جملة خبرية أفادت الحزم كما أوضح الفخر الرازي. اي لن نغتر بكثرتنا وقلة عددهم سنتعامل مع المسألة بحزم.
The word "jami'" here contrasts the word "shirthima" and explains what Pharoah and his chiefs were apprehensive about. It is that those "shirthima" would become a "jami'". The latter not only means "gathering/alliance", but also "army". I'rab should not proceed from this understanding, not the other way around.
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله We’re not the winners of the contest between Musa and the sorcerers supposed to be followed ? So if the masses/ Egyptians saw Musa win they would follow him out of Egypt no?
Can you move your texts/banners from the bottom to the top of the video? For example, your texts like "Blogging Theology" and "Louay Fatoohi" clash with the texts from UA-cam, like the "Subtitles/Closed Captions." Thank You!
This discussion shows we first let the Quran to do the interpretation first before lookinto somewhere else. If we do the same then, interpretaiton of the Quran 4, tweet 171 should be like this ( sultan-bin-intepretation), Quran Chapter 4, tweet 171: O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His term [of repeating creation of Adam, Quran 30:11, 10:34, 85:13 through female-male-female gender alteration]; He conveyed His term to Mary [by angels Quran 3:42,45] and [by] a spirit from Him [Quran 19:17-21, messenger Gabriel]. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
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A very rich discussion. However, there is a very simple alternative interpretation, which is also more intuitive and consistent with the story of the Quran. The Quran states that Pharaoh was “slaughtering your sons and keeping your women” of the Israelites. Why? Because Pharaoh learned about a prophecy that one of the Israelites would cause his kingdom to collapse. It is quite possible that the same prophecy indicated that the same person would drive Pharaoh and his followers out of their land. Hence, the basis for the statement: “drive us out of our land” might very well be the same prophecy based on which the Israelites were suffering at the hands of Pharaoh. By Occam's razor, there is no need for external factors to explain the statement "drive us out of our land."
The magicians didn't know about the prophecy. How come they said the same thing about moses driving them out of the land unless they were referring to their past
Wa'alaykum al-salam. I first published on this topic on my personal UA-cam channel. This is an extended and more detailed presentation of the subject. I hope you liked it.
@louay.fatoohi assalamalikum sir, alhumdulilah I enjoy all ur videos ,they are very informative, may Allah swt preserve u , u are a blessing to the ummah. Awaiting more lectures and videos from u
Assalam alaikum , concerning the word “la jamee’un” i’d disagree with the respected doctor because if it was meant for the second meaning which it’s “a crowd or alliance” it would have been “Li Jamee’in”. So in that meaning it would be for “all of us” . Regards
Wa’alaykum al-salam. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Other viewers have also objected to my reading of the text claiming that it requires "la" to be "li" or "jami’un" to be "jami'an". Both assumptions are unnecessary. I read the whole nominal sentence "jami’un hathirun" as the subject of the emphasis of the "la", i.e. "lam al-tawkid". Furthermore, there is a serious weakness in meaning reading “jami’un” as referring to the Egyptians. For instance, what does it mean for Group A to be “cautious” of Group B yet it sets out to fight Group B to the death? There are other, more technical issues with the meaning with reading “jami’un” to refer to the Egyptians.
Alhamdillah!! A brother from Uganda follows.....
Allahu Akbar. Habari Gani?
Brudda from Uganda knows de wae
Yes idi Amin ☝🏽❤️🏴
It is as if the longer people try to get at the Quran the more miracles come out of it 😂❤
Amazing video Paul! Love to Dr Fatoohi as well!
Jazaka Allahu khayran.
There are thousands more miracles in the bible and all legit unlike the quran
In this game you need to stand out, and it is precisely this reason Blogging Theology stands out head and shoulders above other channels.
I want to thank brother Louay for his excellency in this topic. JazakAllah khair
Thank you. Glad you liked the video.
JizakAllah 😊
What an amazing explanation. ❤❤
Great discussion! Dr. Fatoohi is a gem! Can't wait for the next Dr. Fatoohi interview.
where to read more of his books ?
@@fxorigins6624I believe you should ask that question directly on the video
Who is he?
@@unknownbeliever4660the person speaking on the video. There is a short introduction in the beginning of the video.
Thank you. Jajaka Allahu kharan
Paul, you are a great asset to Islam. Truly the Almighty has given you great guidance. I learn so much from you
I would refer Dr Fatoohi to Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi's tafseer Tafhim Al Quran. This tafseer makes the very same observations that Dr Fatoohi has made about the historical context of the Hyksos kings ruling Egypt and when Yusuf (AS) was established in the land without prejudice as they were both Semitic people. The tafseer further deals with Pharaoh's fear of being driven out of the land by Musa (AS) and links this fear back to the period when Yusuf (AS) was in power when the Hyksos kings were ruling Egypt.
Fascinating and very informative! Enjoyed learning more about the Quran ☺️
Glad you liked it.
Amazing information, and you will never get enough. May Allah bless you both abundantly and grant you the highest level of paradise. I knew absolutely nothing about Islam until I came across your channel brother Paul and my knowledge keeps growing and my emaan keeps getting stronger and stronger. All thanks to you brother Paul and your noble guests. Jazakallahu Khairan
Allah swt bless you
May Allah grant both of you in his Jannah
What a wonderful lecture. Peace be upon Brother Paul and all his channel viewers and subscribers.
Aslmz .... Super analysis on the Exodus ... Shukran
May Allah Bless and Reward Both of You in this Life and in the Hereafter.
Amin
Aamiin
May Allah reward you both
ما شأءلله، هذا ممتز جدا
Thank you Paul and Professor for sharing this. Your methodology, regardless of the outcome, makes the conclusion difficult to be denied
Glad you liked it!
Fantastic ❤may Allah give u the highest level of Jenah
Wa'alaikumsalam Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Semua Saudara ISLAM ku. (My Brother's ISLAM), BARAKALLAHU FEEKUM.
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SUBHANALLAH..
WALHAMDULILLAH..
WALAILAHAILLALLAH..
ALLAHU AKBAR..
BARAKALLAHU FIIKUM.
Captivating, we will never read the verses the same after this, God bless you.
Glad you found it useful.
read the verses as they have been sent down, and stop indulging in far fetched theories!
@@farhanwyne6040 when we read the verses they tell us to think & ponder 🙂
@@farhanwyne6040the verses have miracles. So that’s the point these are t far fetched theories
Mashallah great video
This is incredible, may the Lord Allah swt reward you both, please keep up this amazing content going brothers.
Thank you.
Aamiin from muslimah Penang Malaysia ❤
@@rebasingh258 i see your comments on this channel are always negative, why are you people so obsessed with our religion leave us alone if you were so sure we are wrong, your ignorance and misinformation won’t work on us. Bot!
@@rebasingh258these Hindus in denial 😂
Mashallah May Allah bless you Paul
جزاك الله خيرا وبارك الله فيك
Incredible ma sha Allah, may Allah preserve our ummah
وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله تعالي انتم جواهر غالية لنا. نفتخر نحن المسلمين بكم وبخدماتكم الاسلامية القيمة. ندعواالله الكريم ان يوفقكم لما يحبه ويرضاه من نشر التعاليم الاسلامية ونشر القيم والاخلاق الاسلامية.
جزاك الله خيرا.
Much love to both of you ❤ can't wait to listen to it!!!!! So excited!
Interesting, thanks!
Masha Allah
really really amazing thank you
Very interesting. Jazakallah
Amazing conversation ❤❤❤I will share later tonight on my own channel! Tuning in from NYC. Awesome channel you have Brother
Awesome! Thank you!
@@jabbieforthetruth8757to keep trolls out of the way
@@jabbieforthetruth8757what truth 😱
watching these two scholars is better than watching any blockbuster movie, so much insight an interesting conversations,I always look forward to Dr. Luay fatoohi episodes.
“It is only those who have knowledge among His slaves that fear Allaah” [Faatir 35:28]?.
Thank you for the kind words.
Delightful..🤍
Great analysis mashallah
Most interesting interview. Thank you .
From. 1:17:45 on “wa inna lajemee’un hatherun” can also be translated and also interperted as “and we are weary of all of them” meaning possibly “all Semits together” or the Jewish Slaves as a group.
The lecture is quite interesting and rich on context despite (my apologies) Dr. Louai’s somewhat weak English
MAY ALLAH FORGIVE AND GUIDE US AMEEN
Dr Paul, the man, the legend 🫡🫡
Great guest as well 🫡🫡
Thumbs up to Dr. Fatoohi!
Very good and convincing analysis ,
To kick us from our land means when the Nile was turned to blood meaning the source of life in Egypt is no more. So people would move to look for a water ... better life .
Mashallah
Welcome back Dr Louay.
Thank you.
I love this!!! ❤❤❤❤❤ May Allah reward you for bringing us this session and topic.
Al humdullilah 💎💎💎💎
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
Allah himself testifies that he has a son and he is the son as Christians understand it! Only the Koran writer was too ignorant to know what Son of God means! Allah's word which created everything is Allah himself too! *The Word Allahs which created everything is the Son of God according to Christianity!*
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity!
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
Son of God are 2 titles one referring to the Word of God and one referring to creation (humans, angels, demons)
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@@Hannestv4607got ignored, as deserved, HAHA🤣
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Copy pasting is an inherited talent I see. From Luke and Matthew ofc.
Very interesting presentation. Musa (as) had spent 10 years in Asia. It makes sense that pharaoh would suspect that he had allied with some Asiatic power and was an agent on their behalf.
Always a treat whenever Dr Fatoohi is on. Really nice insights 😍 Allah bless both of you
Jazaka Allahu khayran.
I pray to our One True Creator to guide us and our families and our brothers and sisters from Adam and Eve (peace be upon them both) to the truth. Ameen
The One and Only True Eternal Living Creator says:
(52. And We inspired Moses: “Travel with My servants by night. You will be followed.”
53. Pharaoh sent heralds to the cities.
54. “These are a small gang.
55. And they are enraging us.
56. But we are a vigilant multitude.”
57. So We drove them out of gardens and springs.
58. And treasures and noble dwellings.
59. So it was. And We made the Children of Israel inherit them.
60. And they pursued them at sunrise.
61. When the two groups sighted each other, the followers of Moses said, “We are being overtaken.”
62. He said, “No; my Lord is with me, He will guide me.”
63. We inspired Moses: “Strike the sea with your staff.” Whereupon it parted, and each part was like a huge hill.
64. And there We brought the others near.
65. And We saved Moses and those with him, all together.
66. Then We drowned the others.
67. In that there is a sign, but most of them are not believers.
68. Surely, your Lord is the Almighty, the Merciful.)
Surah 26 ash-shuara ayah 52 to 68 from the Holy Quran the last testament revealed by our Creator Rabbuna Allah Almighty to the last of his prophets Muhammad (peace be upon them all)
May our Beautiful Designer the Most High have mercy on us. Ameen
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I pray to our One True Creator to guide us to the truth. Ameen
Our One Eternal Living Lord Rabbuna Allah Almighty says:
(84. Say, “We believe in Allah, and in what was revealed to us; and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs; and in what was given to Moses, and Jesus, and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we submit.”
85. Whoever seeks other than Islam as a religion, it will not be accepted from him, and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers.)
Surah 3 al-imran ayah 84-85 from the Holy Quran the last book revealed by our Creator Rabbuna Allah Almighty to the last of his prophets Muhammad (peace be upon them all)
May our Beautiful Designer the Most High have mercy on us. Ameen
Amazing. This is a critical theory type of narrative that expands our horison of the past ummah. Thank you. Jazakumullahu khayr
Glad you liked the video.
Good information thanks to Brother Paul and Dr. Fatoohi jazakAllahhukhairan.
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Very Meticulous and thoroughly exhaustive explanation(s). Thank You Dr Fatoohi and Thank you Paul for hosting this contemporary and modern exegesis
Thank you. Gland you liked it.
EXTREMELY EXTREMELY INTERESTING & INFORMATIVE ... EXCELLENT JOB WELL DONE 👏 ✔️ 👍 GOD BLESS YOU BOTH 🙏 😊 👏
Glad you enjoyed it
interesting insight
Profound. As you say another jewel from the limitless treasure chest
Thank you very much for this insightful and extremely interesting presentation. Djazakoum Allah khayr professor Fatoohi and Mister Williams. We can also draw a parallel with the hijrah of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, who also fled Mecca to come back later more powerful.
Thank you.
Salam dear Dr. Fatoohi. As you know, I have been watching your videos and reading some of your material but I had missed this video until now as I wrongly thought I had seen it.
But I need to tell you that many years ago, I distinctly remember being confused why the Pharoah was telling magicians that they are plotting with Prophet Moses to drive them out of the city...I was confused why the word "city" was used when I read the translation. And I made a dua right then and there for some clarity to come out.
And alhamdullilah it just came out.
Louay, when you talk about "jamiun, hadhirun"....to support your argument further, the fact that Seti, the father of Ramesses II, was a general and had established Pir-Ramesses just a mere two kilometers away from the Israelites indicates invests "hadithirun" with this historic dimension when Ramesses II is saying "we are cautious..." he may be also including his father and of course himself as he then shifted the entire capital to the city just two km away....
Also "jamiun" also reminds me of Ramesses's concerns with his fights with the Hittites, other Semites, and others who he may worry the Israelites may make the "alliance" with.
I also want to add that after seeing some of your material I have seen some parts of videos from the Egyptologist Dr. David Falk. Dr. Falk mentioned that when the Pharoah sent his charioteers after the Children of Israel, it wasn't to capture them as only the infantry had equipment like chains to do that...Dr. Falk said it was to kill a lot of them....and perhaps to capture some later with infantry to follow but mainly to kill or maim them.
And I forgot to say, thank you Paul for once again bringing the subtle scholar of the Quran, Dr. Louay Fatoohi.
Thank you for your comment.
There is more to say about the words "jami'un" and "hathirun" but I did not get into that as it mostly involves techincal details of Arabic
Amazing lecture on exegesis. May Allah bless us more and give us more wisdom from His book. Salam
@@jabbieforthetruth8757my friend you are mentioning verses that we don’t even know the Author of we can’t use the Bible for critical thought and evidence.
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Amazing discussion..... Well done Allah bless u both
😂Vjdnj. & _A
Thank you.
@@louay.fatoohi brilliant work professor u should visit cape town
Dr louay could do the same work about what the Bible says about Haroun and what they accused of in relation with the golden calf.
What I understood was following:
Joseph came during the time of Hyksos rule and established a monotheistic semite presence in Egypt that allied themselves with the Hyksos. Their presence particularly being felt in the area that would be Pi Ramses.
The ancestors of Ramses conquered Egypt, expelled the Hyksos and enslaved their allies, therein the Israelites, and forced classical egyptian religion on them.
When Moses came to demand the freedom of the Israelites, Ramses understood it as if Moses wanted to leave Egypt, gain strength in foreign allies and reconquer their homeland in Egypt, i.e. Pi Ramses, and reestablish an asiatic monotheistic kingdom on the nile delta. Thus him [Ramses] accusing Moses in plotting to take the land by using the excuse of just wanting to free his people and leave Egypt.
If this is to be true, then this would explain the wierd plot written in the Bible (that being Moses apparantly trying to fool the pharao by saying he only needs the people for a few days). As the scribes must have been confused by pharaohs remarks, and bought into the accusations of pharaoh against Moses. And retold the story as if Moses actually was planning to reinvade egypt by lying to pharaoh that he only wanted the people out in the desert for a few days. This telling being even more confused in later works leading to what we now have in the bible.
One detail i appreciate is that Moses is perportadly black in skin colour, something the Hyksos are also believed to be. I imagine this only worsened the xenophobia of Ramses as he would most likely be well aware of that fact. I could though be confusing the Hyksos with some other conquerors. I am not sure and Allah knows best.
Many thanks!
Moses had a black skin colour ? how do we know this? I've heard Dr Omar Suleyman make this claim as well, based on ahadith. But I can only guess the Egyptian dynasties would have been fairly racist, so why would pharoah allow his wife to bring up a black skinned child in his household?
@@sparephone8228 the Egyptians werent known to be rasist. In fact black colour in itself ment prosperity and wealth, and for a time their pharohs were black too. They did though, as people do, have reservatioans about foreigners, and looked down on them. I only brought the skin colour of Moses as it might have reminded Ramses of the Hyksos. Again I am hard pressed as to find if they were also black. Tried to find sources on that but failed so you dont have to believe me on this account. Just take it as a possibility.
I don't think the Hyskos were black skinned. They would have resembled the people living in the Arabian peninsula, probably more from Jordan Palestine Syria.
Great scholarly interview 👏 Interesting why this now ?!
Recently MQ by Dr Hany just released a video about Moose didn’t miraculous splitting the sea.. !!
I believe the Quran is the truth if you open up and empty your cup ( not to refer to Old Testament stories) when approaching the Quran. Who are the Israelis ? They are followers of Moses … and not Jacob
Stay away from MQ and dr Hanky. That guy is either insane or possessed
In verse 63 it shows clearly that they said about moses and Aaron that they were magicians who want to “drive” you out of your lands with their magic , because moses was spreading the word of Allah to the pharaoh and his people and not only taking bani israel with him so all the believers were to accompany them on theur journey . And Allah knows best .. regards
Verse 10:83 is unambiguous that even among the Israelites, only some believed in Moses.
Brother Paul thanks for doing whatever you are doing for the ummah but I also have onr request muslims in lndia are dying. Please bring a guest who can throw some light on the issues relavent to musIim community by dealing with arguments lndian musIims have to deal with in their daily life.
For eg how communal violance happen in lndia?
History of hate against musIims?
Understanding hindutva?
I really need a very great acadamic whose area must be Indian Poiltics
Help us please :')
Do hijrah
@@asmrnaturecat984 Easy for you to say. Look at the Rohingyas.
Wonderful session. Wow. A lot to unpack honestly.
It would be fruitful to chop this up into bits and put the info out there, since many segments have interesting tidbits that would benefit those looking for certain subject matters.
Glad that you liked the video, and thank you for the suggstion.
I would love to knw if you have done some research regarding gog magog? M hussien has mentioned alot about them. Scythians red haired people etc. Zul qarnain etc. I really believe we should be learning more about them aswell
There is another evidence that what is meant by Pharaoh’s fear is to expel him from his city in verse 63 of Surah 20, where the chiefs of Pharaoh’s entourage said that Moses wanted not only to expel them from their land, but also to eliminate their way of life.
Dr Louay has made a cogent argument for his interpretation and I tend to agree with him. For my part, I thought that the Pharaoh was worried that Moses would lead an uprising/rebellion of the jews and topple the Pharaoh and his ruling class. However, some would say that the jewish slaves would not even dream of overcoming the Pharaoh's army and its people. Therefore, the fear of the Pharaoh that the fleeing jews would form an alliance with the descendants of the alien Hyskos appears to be a better hypothesis.
Yeah and the Jews were very small in quantity so I don’t think pharaoh would think that the Jews would rebel
@@ji8044he litrely proved historical fact for that 🚱
Oldest know written document we have fron Egypt was from ' a priest 2000 bc, he wrote how he hated foreigner as Kings but loved them as slaves, so Pharoah fear is supported by historical facts and Quran ❤️
There were no jews at the time of Moses. It's the children of isreal.
Learn the difference.
@@mohamedab9033 First, learn to spell and then, lecture others.
Quran is miraculous..... and its miracles should be appreciated by many generations till the end of times..... its also especially relevant to guide people thus very concise..... if you see a single word that seems unsignificant in the scheme of guiding people..... like the mention of king instead of pharaoh or the mention of the mont Cudy for the arch..... then know its a miracle that will be discovered by someone in due time...... the same for simple names like the father of abraham peace upon him being ”Azar” .... these simple informations that seems irrelevant to guidance... know they have another objective of proving the credibility of quran
Jazakallah khairan brother. Can we have another similar lecture on how it is Ismail AS that was going to be sacrificed, and not Iskhak AS? You too know bible says it was Isaac AS
I can see it makes sense that Pharaoh was talking about the Israelites expelling Egyptians out of the land they were returning to if indeed the Egyptians were occupying it at the time.
It would be great if you could provide notes of your videos 😁
Two points :
1- The stories of Moses and Joseph are parallel and linked in the Quran (Check Nouman Ali Khan video). So maybe Pharaoh was warning the Egyptian elite that they would lose their land again as what happened at the time of Joseph.
2- The Quran mentions that the Israelites took the treasures and lands of Pharaoh in 26:59 and 44:28, i.e., what Pharaoh warned against did come true probably at the time of King Solomon (peace be upon him).
Joseph ben Jacob and Yeshua ben Miriam are most strongly linked, there is an extra link through Moses ben Amram.
S12:56, Genesis 46:31-34, 47:11-22.
S26:52, 59, 44:17, 28 = Mosaic covenant, Numbers 34:1-12.
I have a possible explanation: Moses was sent to Pharaoh with a dual mission - to proclaim the existence of the one true God and to secure the freedom of the Children of Israel. During the time of Joseph, the Children of Israel held respected social and economic positions in Egypt. The liberation may have been not only about freeing them from Pharaoh's rule but also about returning them to their ancestral city, Avaris.
The Exodus, consequently, may not have been the primary objective but rather a consequence of Pharaoh's intentions to eliminate the small number of believers who followed Moses (peace be upon him).
I also think that that Israel (peace be upon him, who was a prophet and the son and grandson of prophets) might not have left the so-called promised land of Ibrahim if there had been a command from Ibrahim himself to settle in Egypt.
There is also a date that the Old Testament suggest when the exodus happened. This is in 1 Kings 6 which states
“In the four hundred and eightieth[a] year after the Israelites came out of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv, the second month, he began to build the temple of the Lord”
Scholars generally agree that the construction of the temple of Solomon started around 960BC and if you add 480 lunar years or 465 Gregorian years to 960, you will arrive to 1425BC. Why lunar years because the old Hebrew calendar is lunar based just like the Muslim calendar and I believe the unisolar Gregorian calendar was only adopted later. Interestingly 1425BC coincides with the demise of Thutmoses iii based on the Egyptian chronology.
The Old Testament is silent when it comes to the fate of pharaoh but the Quran is very specific in that pharaoh died together with his troops in the Red Sea. Thutmoses iii is a warrior pharaoh also known as the Napoleon of Egypt. In fact he invaded Palestine and in the battle at Megiddo defeated the Canaanites. He was also the first ruler of Egypt that used the term pharaoh for himself. Prior to this the rulers were just called kings and pharaoh refers to the Great or high house. Perhaps this is what is referred to in the Quran in Surah naziat 79:24 where pharaoh said “I am your lord Most High” when he assumed the term pharaoh for himself.
Just realised prophet Joseph a.s was the equivalent of a powerful banker in our time
Thank you for yet another wonderful discussion. Jazak Allah.
Glad you liked it.
Dr. Fatoohi came up with the theory that says the Pharao of Moses belonged to the Hexos dynasties which are considered foriegners by the native egyptian culture.
Just yesterday I was wondering, when will Dr. Ali Ataie or Dr. Louay Fatoohi come back to Blogging Theology.
Fun fact, 2 magician name as been mention in Jewish apocrypha book
Al-Qamar 54 -44:
أَمْ يَقُولُونَ نَحْنُ جَمِيعٌۭ مُّنتَصِرٌۭ ٤٤
Or do they say, “We are all ˹a˺ united ˹front˺, bound to prevail.”?
this verse make your translation a very possible meaning
Some of these references are seen in the historical movie 10 commandments. Seems as if the writers took from source which seemed historically uthentic
The conclusion on the pharaoh of the exodus is based on the assumption that there is only one pharaoh whereas in the Old Testament it mentions a few pharaohs.
If you look at the verse you quoted
قَالَ أَلَمْ نُرَبِّكَ فِينَا وَلِيدًا وَلَبِثْتَ فِينَا مِنْ عُمُرِكَ سِنِينَ
He said, "Did we not raise you as a child, and did you live among us for years of your life?"
Dr, I think the using of the word “We” and “us” in the Quran has significant implications because it denotes plurality or a number of pharaohs rather than a single person. If it were one pharaoh then using the word “I” would have profound and deep implication and will accentuate the point to Musa AS because he was the one that raised Musa in the palace. But rather the word “We” is used in the Quran.
It can be very easily concluded that the pharaoh that Musa AS faced upon return to Egypt from Madyan was using the plural word “We and us”and he is referring to him and the pharaohs before him. For example, if it was Thutmoses iii that Moses was facing and Moses grew up in the court of Thutmoses ii who is the father of Thutmoses iii, then there is nothing wrong for him to say “Didn’t we raise you as a child and you lived amongst us”. In fact if your claim is true that there is only one pharaoh, then the verse would read “Didn’t I raise you as a child and you lived with me”. Then it would be conclusive that the pharaoh is only one pharaoh and it is a direct message from the pharaoh that raised him and lived with him in the royal palace. The Quran didn’t say that and by using “we and us” the Quran implies that there are more than one pharaoh involved.
It looks like you have posted the same comment on my channel, which I have replied to.
There are some correct prophecies in Bible too. Like in Torah (Genesis 17:20) the rise of Arabs as a great power is predicted.
Genesis 17:20 “As for Ishmael, I have heeded you. I hereby bless him. I will make him fertile and *exceedingly* numerous. He shall be the father of twelve chieftains, and I will make of him a *great nation.”*
The numerical value of these words is identical
92 =מחמד= Mohammed’s name
92 = בִּמְאֹ֣ד מְאֹ֑ד= exceedingly greatly
92 = לְג֥וֹי גָּדֽוֹל = A Great nation
This was in Hebrew Bible for thousands of years, amazing how God plans everything.
That is very beautiful as Muslims we don’t reject all of what is in the bible instead we use the Quran as the Furqan to know what has been kept and what has been changed ❤
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Also, prediction about rise of 2nd Moses.
Deuteronomy 18: 15 - 19
Proud to be the first one. Pin this aaaaaaaaaaa
A very interesting hypothesis which surely demands non-biased independently funded expert verification in terms of the ancient history.
Thank you Paul for bringing up historical evidence from the Quran. Yes. Why would Pharaoh reject Moses request to exit Egypt with his people. Then, claim this is going to make him lose power. Moses came prior to King David and King Solomon. Pharaoh apprehension was correct.
However, doctor Louay interpretation of 'Jami un hadhirun' is not convincing at all. The way i understand it is 'we are unified and alert'. - unity is in conjunction with disorganised. Alert is in conjunction with small. He was trying to rationalize. This is after the wizards fell down in prostration to Allah miracles. 1:04
شرذمة قليلون جملة خبرية أفادت عدم الخوف منهم. انا لجميع حاذرون جملة خبرية أفادت الحزم كما أوضح الفخر الرازي. اي لن نغتر بكثرتنا وقلة عددهم سنتعامل مع المسألة بحزم.
The word "jami'" here contrasts the word "shirthima" and explains what Pharoah and his chiefs were apprehensive about. It is that those "shirthima" would become a "jami'". The latter not only means "gathering/alliance", but also "army". I'rab should not proceed from this understanding, not the other way around.
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Hey Paul, you should change the channel name to Vlogging Theology. V stands for Video. Blogging is somenthing else.
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله
We’re not the winners of the contest between Musa and the sorcerers supposed to be followed ? So if the masses/ Egyptians saw Musa win they would follow him out of Egypt no?
Can you move your texts/banners from the bottom to the top of the video? For example, your texts like "Blogging Theology" and "Louay Fatoohi" clash with the texts from UA-cam, like the "Subtitles/Closed Captions." Thank You!
It's fine with mine, the subtitles/cc is above the logo/banners
@@fghn5639 How do you do that? Are you using any browser extension? My CCs are on the bottom of the line.
Brother Paul, it would be amazing if you can host an expert who can deconstruct the Zionist claim to Palestine. JazaakAllaahu khair!
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 And?
This discussion shows we first let the Quran to do the interpretation first before lookinto somewhere else. If we do the same then, interpretaiton of the Quran 4, tweet 171 should be like this ( sultan-bin-intepretation),
Quran Chapter 4, tweet 171: O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His term [of repeating creation of
Adam, Quran 30:11, 10:34, 85:13 through female-male-female gender alteration]; He conveyed His term
to Mary [by angels Quran 3:42,45] and [by] a spirit from Him [Quran 19:17-21, messenger Gabriel]. So
believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is
but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever
is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
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A "subtle miracle" discussed in 1:17 hrs 😏 #ClassicPaul
1:03:44
A very rich discussion. However, there is a very simple alternative interpretation, which is also more intuitive and consistent with the story of the Quran. The Quran states that Pharaoh was “slaughtering your sons and keeping your women” of the Israelites. Why? Because Pharaoh learned about a prophecy that one of the Israelites would cause his kingdom to collapse. It is quite possible that the same prophecy indicated that the same person would drive Pharaoh and his followers out of their land. Hence, the basis for the statement: “drive us out of our land” might very well be the same prophecy based on which the Israelites were suffering at the hands of Pharaoh. By Occam's razor, there is no need for external factors to explain the statement "drive us out of our land."
The magicians didn't know about the prophecy. How come they said the same thing about moses driving them out of the land unless they were referring to their past
Assalamalikum ,wasnt this video uploded couple of weeks ago? Any specific reason for reuploading it again
I think it's different
Wa'alaykum al-salam. I first published on this topic on my personal UA-cam channel. This is an extended and more detailed presentation of the subject. I hope you liked it.
@louay.fatoohi assalamalikum sir, alhumdulilah I enjoy all ur videos ,they are very informative, may Allah swt preserve u , u are a blessing to the ummah. Awaiting more lectures and videos from u
There is no English translation. I don't understand . No Turkish😢
Assalam alaikum , concerning the word “la jamee’un” i’d disagree with the respected doctor because if it was meant for the second meaning which it’s “a crowd or alliance” it would have been “Li Jamee’in”. So in that meaning it would be for “all of us” . Regards
Wa’alaykum al-salam. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Other viewers have also objected to my reading of the text claiming that it requires "la" to be "li" or "jami’un" to be "jami'an". Both assumptions are unnecessary. I read the whole nominal sentence "jami’un hathirun" as the subject of the emphasis of the "la", i.e. "lam al-tawkid".
Furthermore, there is a serious weakness in meaning reading “jami’un” as referring to the Egyptians. For instance, what does it mean for Group A to be “cautious” of Group B yet it sets out to fight Group B to the death? There are other, more technical issues with the meaning with reading “jami’un” to refer to the Egyptians.
British English is difficult to understand yet lovely to hear 🤣🤣🤣