The history of Doug Prince and his famous nymph.

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  • One of the many variations of the classic Prince Nymph. Created by Doug Prince of California in the early 1940s, the original Prince is easily one of the top 2-3 most popular nymphs of all time.
    Hook: #12-16 heavy wire
    Tail: Brown goose biots
    Rib: Oval gold tinsel
    Body: Peacock herl
    Hackle: Tan or natural CDC
    Wings: White goose biots
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  • @garretts.2003
    @garretts.2003 Рік тому

    The prince has been my favorite and most effective nymph for the 15 years I've been fly fishing. Being a favorite of my dad's, naturally it wound up on the end of my line and has never failed me since. It just amazes me how effective it is and seems to work on days when nothing else will, across all seasons.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Same here Garrett! It looks so much like nothing in nature, but just works everywhere. My best day ever smallmouth fishing, in southwest Virginia a few years ago, was about a dozen nice fish, all on a size 14 Prince. :-)

  • @oldsmugglerflyfishing
    @oldsmugglerflyfishing Рік тому +1

    Hello Matt. I really enjoy your videos, a lot of good information about the history and the story behind all the flies that we fish without knowing. Thanks for sharing this one, I really like to fish the prince's nymph and I didn't know the 10% about it.
    All the best and keep the good work.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Thank you my friend! And I feel the same way. It's great to know a little bit of the history of the patterns we fish. It makes the experience a little bit richer. Hope you're having a great weekend!

  • @toddslichter7831
    @toddslichter7831 Рік тому

    The CDC looks great...much more buggy. Thanks for sharing Matt. Have a great weekend my friend.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Appreciate it Todd! Hope you had a great weekend my friend. :-)

  • @jeffreystone7327
    @jeffreystone7327 Рік тому

    Awesome. Another instance of old and proven still getting it done. Thank you Sir. Nice video.

  • @bigdaddy99929
    @bigdaddy99929 Рік тому

    Love this nymph and, yes, various colors depending on how I feel. 😊 it sure is a great fish catcher. Thx Matt and have a fabulous weekend.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Appreciate it Clyde! Hope you had a great weekend my friend. :-)

  • @ybarrajc
    @ybarrajc Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing Matt, I often use these as my trailer. And yes they work they’ve been around for a long time for that reason. Have a blessed day my friend.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому +1

      Appreciate it! Hope you had a great weekend my friend. :-)

  • @joeg5414
    @joeg5414 7 місяців тому

    IMO - the best nymph pattern ever created. Catches trout everywhere I go. Many times, it's the only fly catching fish

  • @mikeney5113
    @mikeney5113 Рік тому

    The prince is a deadly pattern.and I fish it alot.nice tie matt looks great

  • @davehall2160
    @davehall2160 Рік тому

    Adding the cdc was a great idea and a cool history lesson
    Good looking fly Matt
    Thanks for the video and have a wonderful weekend 😀

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому +1

      Appreciate it Dave! Hope you had a great weekend my friend. :-)

  • @laytonmarvin3790
    @laytonmarvin3790 Рік тому

    Fantastic pattern Matt, these fish awesome for me in a size 16. No box is complete without this pattern. Thanks for sharing and have a great weekend.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому +1

      Appreciate it Layton! It's been a good weekend here on the farm. And today is a rest day... shopping with the wife and daughter. No fishing, but no tractor work either. :-)

    • @laytonmarvin3790
      @laytonmarvin3790 Рік тому

      We all need rest, but as for me, I'm walking to the river as I'm sending this. Have a great day

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Awesome! Good luck brother!!

  • @barbaraemerich1921
    @barbaraemerich1921 Рік тому

    Another nice fly Matt! Thank you! I think I will be tying this one up for my WFFI Club!

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Definitely Barbara! I'm not kidding that I have at least a dozen of these in my boxes at all times. :-)

  • @MyItalians
    @MyItalians Рік тому

    Morning Matt. Yes, the Prince Nymph is a go to. Try tying a half dozen in purple and black. I was goofing around one day and brown trout love them.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      I love it Nich! What do you mean, purple bead and black tail biots?

    • @MyItalians
      @MyItalians Рік тому

      I use a black or gold glass bead. Purple body (wool) with gold wire (small). Black biot tail and white/tan biot wing. Thread is purple. I use white thread and a purple marker. Some weighted, most not.

  • @diecastrejuvenation7779
    @diecastrejuvenation7779 Рік тому

    Nice variation. And thanks for the history. It's always appreciated!

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Appreciate it Troy! Hope you had a great weekend my friend. :-)

  • @philipvankampen3394
    @philipvankampen3394 Рік тому +4

    I've been tying my princes with CDC and a single white biot, ribbed down the back for a couple years now. Without fail, when I meet friends at the river and inevitably toss them a few flies, it's always the CDC styled nymphs (like this prince) they tend to have the most success with. It is for sure a confidence material for me and when used on a classic can set it apart in more heavily pressured water.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      That's an interesting take on it Phil! When you say ribbed down the back, do you mean it's laying down the back, and the wire rib is over it holding it in place? That sounds pretty cool...

    • @philipvankampen3394
      @philipvankampen3394 Рік тому

      @@SavageFlies Yep, that's exactly what I mean. It's a simple tie and it looks really good wet.

  • @joutdoorsmen23
    @joutdoorsmen23 Рік тому

    Awesome tie Matt!!!

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому +1

      Appreciate it! Hope you had a great weekend my friend. :-)

  • @doncogswell9596
    @doncogswell9596 Рік тому +2

    Hi Matt, You are really getting good at tying in those pesky biots. They are always a bit troublesome. Also, I like the idea of the CDC. It's a good tie for all those low quality CDC feathers we all have. Well done.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Ha! Thanks Don. I think that's because between this and Lieb's bug last week I've tied a couple dozen flies with these pesky biots recently. Thanks for the note and have a great weekend my friend. :-)

  • @kenb4685
    @kenb4685 Рік тому

    Gidday Matt. Nice work. Thanks.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Appreciate it Ken! Hope you had a great weekend my friend. :-)

  • @pc5439
    @pc5439 Рік тому

    Another great fly Matt. All a Prince needs is a Royal Coachman. Can't wait to see what you come up with in a couple weeks when we get ready for Pumpkin Hollow. Have a great weekend.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому +1

      Oh I've already got some plans Phil! Well, sort of. I should say "ideas." :-)

  • @jimgollach6202
    @jimgollach6202 Рік тому

    Hey Matt 👋. This is one fly i'v been wanting to see you tie. This fly is my favorite of all the flies I use. It has caught me a ton of fish. I fish three different sizes, and none of them have beads. As we speak, I'm going fishing right now. Chasing wild brook trout. My fly, you guessed it, a no.14 prince nymph. Thanks so much for this tie. Have a great weekend 😀. Tight lines.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому +1

      Jim- let me know how you did! I got out on the Savage Friday night for a couple hours. I thought about hitting one of the small brook trout tributaries, but ended up having enough fun in the main stem. But... you just gave me an idea about fishing pictures. I'll bring it up in Tuesday's video. :-)

    • @jimgollach6202
      @jimgollach6202 Рік тому

      @@SavageFlies caught several today,but the brookies didn't want the prince. I end up catching them on a midge pattern I made up a year ago.

  • @edwardmlotkiewicz2343
    @edwardmlotkiewicz2343 Рік тому

    Love the history on this fly and it's possible predecessor. I will now try tying them after seeing this video. Keep up the great work.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому +1

      Appreciate it Ed! Hope you had a great weekend my friend. :-)

  • @danielyost9126
    @danielyost9126 Рік тому

    Looks great Matt thank jyoi

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Appreciate it Dan! Hope you had a great weekend my friend. :-)

  • @gdreilly
    @gdreilly Рік тому

    Nice job Matt

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому +1

      Appreciate it George! Hope you had a great weekend my friend. :-)

  • @deltadeltas4558
    @deltadeltas4558 Рік тому

    I’ve never had luck with the prince nymph. Not one of my confidence flies that’s for sure. 😢. But I do appreciate it for its artistic value.

  • @Jd-yc3gw
    @Jd-yc3gw Рік тому

    Good morning Matt. I like that variation with the CDC. I have a number of Prince Nymphs in my box but I’m going to add some of these. Sometimes a small change makes for big results. Thanksgiving weekend starting up here. Looking forward to Thanksgiving dinner. Take care and have a great weekend.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Oh that's right! The second Monday in October. Have some delicious turkey and Brussel's sprouts for me. :-)

  • @jamesvatter5729
    @jamesvatter5729 Рік тому

    Good stuff, Matt. Another great history lesson that changes what I previously thought correct. That CDC collar is a great addition!

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Appreciate it Jim! Hope you had a great weekend my friend. :-)

  • @JimBarklow
    @JimBarklow Рік тому

    I’ve tied princes’ for years. Didn’t know what they were called until now. Thanks Matt!

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому +1

      You bet Jim! Thanks for watching my friend. :-)

  • @dalespencer803
    @dalespencer803 Рік тому

    Nice fly. Need to try this one.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Appreciate it Dale! Hope you had a great weekend my friend. :-)

  • @jimholland1592
    @jimholland1592 Рік тому

    Really nice Matt,
    Good morning ☕️☕️
    That bug is amazing, even though I am a worm kinda guy🤣🤣🤣and that music was very relaxing 👍

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Jim! I woke up to 33 degrees at the farm this morning. This is definitely long-johns weather. :-)

    • @jimholland1592
      @jimholland1592 Рік тому

      @@SavageFlies it’s 42° here Joyce and I have a picnic at the lake after I fished. And it turned off windy and cold 👍

  • @michaelpeterson6413
    @michaelpeterson6413 Рік тому

    Nice tie Matt. I’m pretty sure I’ve never tied a Prince. My father gave me a bunch of them years ago. There pretty much used up now, time to tie one myself.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Absolutely Mike! If you're a trout fisherman (or panfish and smallmouth) you need at least a row of these in your box. :-)

  • @jeffjackson5331
    @jeffjackson5331 Рік тому

    Sweet looking fly

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому +1

      Appreciate it Jeff! Hope you had a great weekend my friend. :-)

    • @jeffjackson5331
      @jeffjackson5331 Рік тому

      @@SavageFlies it is my pleasure Matt. You have a wonderful weekend as well

  • @crowdaddy8355
    @crowdaddy8355 Рік тому

    I like to use cdc on mine also. Thanks Matt.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Appreciate it Chad! Hope you had a great weekend my friend. :-)

  • @johnnylightning1491
    @johnnylightning1491 Рік тому

    Another nice fly Matt. I guess I need to get some CDC as I don't have any, or at least not much, in my materials arsenal. Keep the good stuff coming buddy.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Appreciate it Dave! Pick up some of these cheap bags by Hareline. It's what I use and they seem to last me a good while. www.jsflyfishing.com/hareline-cul-de-canard-feathers

  • @joeduca8582
    @joeduca8582 Рік тому

    Another great one. I read about the Brown Fork Tail after your Lieb's Bug video. I really like that BFT and the L Bug. But, I never got past tying and fishing the Zug Bug and variations of it. I like winding the peacock around the thread. I'll have to try some ostrich bodies or winding both peacock and ostrich herl around the thread sort of like Alec Jackson's "Spade" style steelhead patterns.
    CDC is another material that I've yet to use, but I finally bought a pack a while back. Lately I've read there's different types of CDC and a learning curve as to the amount / type to use. To paraphrase that orange juice ad "it's not just for dries anymore". Cool video Matt, thanks! 🦆😏👍

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому +1

      Joe- thanks for the note! I'm enroute the farm but wanted to let you know I didn't make it to the post office yesterday (work kept me late!) But I got it dropped off this morning. Alas, you probably won't get it tomorrow but I suspect Tuesday. Have a great weekend! I'll be tractoring. 🤪

    • @joeduca8582
      @joeduca8582 Рік тому

      @@SavageFlies That's OK 👍 Have a good one!

  • @tomhines5999
    @tomhines5999 Рік тому

    Thanks, Matt. I tie these with white bucktail for the wing and short tail. I actually trim the end of tail and wing flat! (l don't like biots; they're kind of a pain, and they aren't durable). I seem to have better luck with kind of a rust colored body instead of the peacock. Sooooo I guess it's kind of a Tom special... Cheers, Tom

  • @RyanAshley419
    @RyanAshley419 Рік тому

    Hmmm... Trying a bump on the back before the biot tail, I never thought to do that. I like it.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Thanks for the note Ryan. I can't remember who I saw do that first but it does make it a bit easier.

  • @harryjoesather6539
    @harryjoesather6539 Рік тому

    hey matt thanks see ya joe.

  • @melchurch3019
    @melchurch3019 Рік тому

    CDC makes sense for the legs on these. Have to remember to try on any small nymphs I tie. Thanks Matt.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Absolutely Mel! Hope you had a great weekend my friend. :-)

  • @markfritch3168
    @markfritch3168 Рік тому

    Great fly, thanks for the history Matt. I’ve used the older pattern (without bead) and caught many a fish. I really like CDC and was wondering when it actually became a fly tying material. All the best to you and your family. PS My new hip is progressing nicely, in five more weeks I have no restrictions, woo hoo!!

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Great to hear Mark! As far as when did CDC become a common material... hmmm. That's a great question. I'm going to have to look through some of my old books and see when I first notice it being used. But come to think of it, I can't recall seeing it in really old patterns.

  • @FlyTyer1948
    @FlyTyer1948 Рік тому

    Such a good fly. Being thrifty (cheap if I’m going to be honest), I’m not likely to tie a Prince Nymph with CDC which is a bit pricey. Since the fly is weighted. I prefer to stick with less expensive partridge or pheasant feathers for the collar, even though your version does look good.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Thanks Bob! I've never thought of CDC as being pricey, but maybe I'm not using the good stuff. I just get these packs from Hareline and they seem to last long enough: www.jsflyfishing.com/hareline-cul-de-canard-feathers

  • @rahillslens
    @rahillslens Рік тому

    I want to learn making flies, help me where will I get the tools and material, please let me know.thanks

  • @workforit2270
    @workforit2270 Рік тому +1

    Is there a method to biot wings? I find myself switch hands, aligning up, placing them on the hook just to drop a wing and repeat process. So frustrating!

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому +1

      It's just practice Casey! I do the same thing my friend. You just don't see it in my videos because if I drop them and if it takes me 20 seconds to pick them back up, and get them realigned in my fingers, I edit that dead air time out. Not that I'm trying to hide anything, it's just that I've learned if I leave too much time in between steps in the videos, people will click off and go somewhere else! But I can tell you that the more I've tied with them, the better I have gotten and the easier it becomes. Eventually. :-)

    • @workforit2270
      @workforit2270 Рік тому

      @@SavageFlies I figured it's a patience. And a little easier after earning some time with this. Im finding out why I hear fly fishing takes a higher level of skill. Definitely falling in love with this. Can't wait to use my own flys. Thanks again for your encouragement and how to videos.

  • @edwardchavez5627
    @edwardchavez5627 Рік тому

    Good Morning Sir Matt, great video this morning Sir. I really like this variant of the Prince and I really want to try the ostrich herl red with black peacock herl Crackle Back version tell me what you think please. Have a great weekend Sir Matt 😀

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому +1

      I think that would be a cool fly Edward... go for it!

  • @allenjones2450
    @allenjones2450 Рік тому

    Now you need to tie the Brown Forktail.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      I know Allen! I just might add that to the list. :-)

  • @burtonbrocious171
    @burtonbrocious171 Рік тому

    Nice nymph matt ever try duck boots for smaller flies

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Thanks Burt! I do have some duck (and turkey) biots but most my flies are in the sizes that the goose work fine. Even in small flies, I just take some of the smaller goose biots close to the end of the feather.

  • @jscancella
    @jscancella Рік тому

    I see you do most (if not all?) your tying using 70 denier thread. Is that what you would recommend for a new fly tier to use? Or should I get some 70 and 140?

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      I would recommend getting used to 70d first. A couple of reasons- you can tie a wide range of sizes with it, and if you learn with the thinner stuff, stepping it up to a 140 when needed will be a piece of cake. A 140 is definitely the best choice for spinning deer hair or tying big meaty streamers, but 90% of my flies are just fine using 70. BTW, if you haven't seen it, I did a thread primer a year or so ago that has some pretty good info. Thanks for the question!

    • @jscancella
      @jscancella Рік тому

      @@SavageFlies I did, it was very helpful! I haven't actually started tying flies yet but I am thinking it would be something fun to do if I have time. I am torn because I only have a 5wt rod but I have been watching a lot of Kelly Galloup's videos and he does a ton of articulated flies which look so cool. I fish the Occoquan but am hoping to hit a couple of the stocked (by Va DWR) trout streams this year.

  • @user-cc1hi1ju1q
    @user-cc1hi1ju1q Рік тому

    👍💪

  • @goldengamecraft5954
    @goldengamecraft5954 Рік тому +1

    You did something here that I see almost all youtube fly tiers do, and I don't understand it. When you wrap the lead or lead-free wire, you had a long tag end that you just pinched off, and I assume discarded. Why do you do that instead of just wrapping the exact amount of wire that you need without wasting any? Like I said, it's not just you, I see it all the time in these videos. But when I tie my own flies, I don't have a tag end, I just use exactly what I need, It seems wasteful, and that stuff ain't cheap.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      This is actually a great question... and you're making me think here! I don't have a good answer. I'm betting it's because it's a bit easier this way and most of us are lazy. But also, when you see a fly in a video, it's an extreme close up view and it may look like we're wasting a lot of wire, but it's really only about a half inch. But then again, even that would add up over several flies. And you're right... the lead-free wire is not cheap! I'm going to try it like you the next time I use wire in a video. Thanks for the note. :-)

  • @ConorMakes
    @ConorMakes Рік тому

    one hundred and first lol 😂😂🤣🤣

  • @burtonbrocious171
    @burtonbrocious171 Рік тому

    That's biots.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Ha! I knew what you meant. I didn't even notice the typo. :-)