Interesting how at each point in time 5-10 years old hardware is seen as "old junk" and usually goes straight into the trash can... But when it reaches 15+ years of age, it's suddenly "retro", "vintage" and cool and valuable again.
That's true of lots of other things too, e.g. cars, although with cars it's more like 30+ years before something is really retro/vintage/cool/valuable.
You'd be surprised of what people throw out sometimes, at least here in sweden. I got a ryzen 7 3700x & gtx 1660 ti from the scrapyard electronics container out of a thrown out hp pavilion gaming pc, had no ram or storage though. Haven't tested the 3700x yet but might do it later today if im not too busy doing other stuff that needs to be done today. (I know a small batch of motherboards had a bios version which ends up overvolting the ryzen 3000 series cpu's frying one memory channel eventually which can look like the pc breaking ofc.) but the HP 1660 ti works perfectly fine.
I had an Asus gaming laptop with ExpressGate. It had Windows 7 instead of Vista. It had a I5 560M cpu and a GTS 360M gpu with 4 gb ram and a 500gb hdd. I later upgraded it to a 256 gb ssd and 8 gb ram and installed Ubuntu (which eliminated the ExpressGate partition). I have been watching CRD on these quick start laptops.
My main XP system is a: * Core 2 Quad Q9550 processor * Asus P5K-E Motnerboard * 4 GB RAM * 128gb SSD. * ATI 5850 1GB graphics card. * SB Audigy 2 PCI sound card * Intel Wifi-N Pci-e card. * 2 x DVD burners (Pioneer 218L + Optiarc AD-7200S) * 22 inch widescreen monitor (1680 x 1050 resolution, as was popular in the day) It rips pretty hard for the era of games it needs to run, plus lets me burn DVDs for other systems. I don't have a floppy in it, but can plug a USB floppy drive into it easy enough. You can generally set core affinity for any games that don't like quad core.
@@TheRetroRecall Yeah, The P5Q supports all the Quads I know about. @DuneRunnerEnterprises Yes, but then why not use something even newer and more powerful. Additionally, If I want 8gb in my system, I can change that out in about 10 minutes. But I get where you are coming from
I have three XP machines currently. I had my 11 year old daughter build one as a learning experience. We connect them up and have been playing some Command and Conquer Generals on it. She loves that game and we have a great time.
I have a similar motherboard to that in your computer. I want to upgrade it with a Quad core CPU and something like a GTX 750, that would be about the max gfx not to bottleneck performance between the gpu and cpu. Overall you have a great system right there. It will plow through most games and software of the era like a charm.
Well for an XP machine this damn thing is beast, A BEAST!! the only upgrades I would suggest is looking up/into a wifi/Bluetooth PCI/PCI Express Wi-Fi/Bluetooth card and a 52-1 memory card reader..
I have a gigabyte 945-s2c motherboard. I upgraded it to Max core 2 duo cpu and 4gb Ram, with an SSD and a graphic card, Windows 10, and now it's my main pc ❤
Built my first PC in mid-2009, which then ran Windows XP for the first 2 years of it's life. After carefully considering performance and price, I went with an ASUS P5Q3 motherboard, 2 X 2GB DDR3 1333, and a Q9550 in a beautiful Thermatake SopranoRS 101 case with a 500W Thermaltake power supply. Topped with a 500GB Western Digital HD, DVD drive, and a Sapphire HD 4850 GPU. Played all the games I was interested in at the highest settings (in 1680 x 1050). Before the lighting struck and ended that wonderful motherboard sometime in 2018, I had maxed the RAM to 4 X 4GB of DDR3 1600, easily overclocked the Q9550 from 2.83Ghz to 3.4Ghz, upgraded the HD to a 1TB SSD, swapped the DVD drive for a Blu-ray, upgraded to the HD 6950 (unlocked to a HD 6970) GPU and Windows 10. A BEAST!
Now that was a system!!! Too bad the lightning got it. Ahhh the Blu ray drives. Short lived - especially for anyone wanting to write 25gbs of data (which I am going to be doing this afternoon 😂)
Ok, Top of the line graphics for Nvidia that year was the 9800 GTX+ (or the GX2 if you feel like dealing with a dual GPU card) But you can probably put in a midrange 200 or 300 series card before you run into a bottleneck. The 700 might be pushing it, but it'd be interesting to see.
I still have this mobo since 2008, today I use it as an emulation platform. The specs: CPU: Xeon E5450 Ram: 8GiB DDR2 GPU: HD4870 Storage: 64GiB SSD for the system and a 500GiB for games O.S: Windows 10 X64 Monitor: CRT TV connected via S-Video (looks like Ati HD 4000 series are the last with good s-video support).
I eventually want to get around to building an unusual XP build on the budget. My plan is to use a GT 730, C2Q (or possibly a Pentium G2140), and a SD to SATA adapter with a SanDisk 256 GB SD card.
Love it! I had to take my hand off the mouse when you started playing though. I kept pausing the video because of my hand reflexes. Edit: Leave as is please. You can run a dual boot system if anything.
Core 2 duo's make really good systems for windows xp. The key thing is they have good drivers and are still available for good prices. I run mine with a Nvidia quadro k620 for graphics. Performance is great it was cheep and the drivers are stable and easy to find.
My Windows XP PC is a: Core 2 Duo E6550 2.33GHZ Gigabyte G31M-ES2L Motherboard PNY Verto NVIDIA 9600 GT Sound Blaster X-Fi Extreme PCI 4GB DDR2 800 Ram 250GB Samsung Spinpoint (OS) 320GB Western Digital Cavair Blue (Games) Sata DVD Burner Floppy Drive Thermaltake 430W Power Supply Fratcal Design Core 1100 Dell E1908 19" 1280:1024 Monitor Overall, nice system. If anything I would replace the power supply because Codegen power supplies are not very reliable and are built pretty cheap.
A Nascom 1 was my first computer, it would be worth a lot of money now but after moving a few times things get thrown away instead of being put in a box in the attic.
Very well presented and detailed breakdown of this Asus motherboard computer. One of my computers designed for Windows XP and currently with Windows XP on it of the same vintage (2008-2009) has the Gigabyte ga-ma790x-ud4p motherboard. I like it as I think it's well-built and still runs well. It has an AMD Phenom II X4 940 processor with DDR2 RAM. I wish it had DDR3 RAM and SATA3 rather than DDR2 RAM and SATA2 but for its day it was the norm. It's a fast-running XP-based system and could be much faster if I used an SSD for the system drive. As for operating systems, I think you'll be limited by the device drivers that work on your hardware. My Gigabyte motherboard is supported with drivers for Windows XP, Vista, and Windows 7 by Gigabyte. I don't know if Windows 10 will run on it (or run well) but I'm skeptical. XP is a good OS and your motherboard was designed for it so it seems a good choice. On the other hand, taking Vista or Windows 7 for a test drive on it may prove to be worthwhile.
This one brings back alot of memories. Had a very similar system back in the day, which was my first fairly decent pc. Mine had the Asus P5Q Deluxe with a Q8200, 4gb of 1066 OCZ Ram, a 9400GT, 160G HDD and Windows Xp. That 9400GT wasn't too great so I quickly upgraded to a much faster GTX470 and also upgraded to Windows 7. I used that system until the end of 2012 when I finally replaced it with something newer.
@@TheRetroRecall I did build that one in early 2009, so the then new i7 1366 platform had already been launched, but at that time I was still in school and simply could not afford something that pricey. But still that machine was a huge step forward over the old K7 Athlon I was using before. Honestly that 9400GT wasn't that great and already kinda obsolete in 2010. The Q8200 is pretty much a Q6600 in 45nm and with less cache and started to slightly bottleneck the gpu in newer titles. Back then multi gpu setups were all the rage and I always dreamt about owning one one day. So I upgraded to a much nicer socket 2011 platform which actually ran (with minor upgrades) unitl a couple months ago. That Q8200 still lives on in a slightly newer Dell machine. I still own all the other stuff to, funny enough that Asus currently has a E7300 in it.
I have that same board, It's pretty nice. I recommend updating to the latest non beta bios, it fixes some memory incompatibilities that cause crashes with some Kingston ram(like the kit was using) I have a Core 2 Quad Q9550 and 8GB of ddr2-800 in it, it can take 16gb though. Another nice thing is that it supports PCI-E 2.0, so you can put better graphics cards into it and not lose as much performance.
@@TheRetroRecall it appears to already have the version with that fix, but you may as well update anyway. Mine is rock solid stable on the latest, which is 2209.
Darn . . .@@TheRetroRecall I Was Hoping That You Did, Because I Have 3 Of The 2005 Sony VAIO 200 Disc Carousel DVD Players, Which I Can Only Use With XP Media Center, Or 7 Media Center, And I Never Had Or Used 8, So I Am A Little Constrained, Regarding Using Them Here . . . ;-0
My secondary PC is an Intel Core 2 Quad, GT710, 4gb of DDR2 ram and two 128GB SSD. I have installed Windows XP, Vista and 7 on one SSD and the other one runs Windows 10 LTSC. You could do something similar to what I have and have multiple OS installed, maybe replace Vista with Linux.
Haha for sure - the only challenge I have seen is getting compatible, decent low profile cards that perform well. Not saying its impossible, just it can be challenging.
Haha true - so I guess when I refer to cable management.. I'm referring to keeping them as tight, clean and out of the way of airflow. In this case, it looks like they did a pretty good job (Imo). Those were the days haha.
I have a old Core Duo macine with XP Pro, E8500 CPU, Asus dual fan 750Ti, 4GB DDR3 1600MHZ memory, Floppy drive, DVD multi drive, Creative Audigy 2 value PCI sound card, on a AsRock motherbaoard, MATX. System if fast. Have a Smsung 1TB SSD for a boot drive. Should be a nice reliable system for me. I also have on the other exteme, Ivy Bridge I7-3770 CPU 16GB Corsair Vengance memory at 1600MHz mainly because I left it in the board. AMD HD 7970 GPU Creative RX 5.1 PCIe sound card This one is a beast for XP. As for your system, 700 series GPU might work, You can run all the way up to 980Ti on that thing. Drivers are better on AMD HD series GPUs. New Nvidia drivers don't allow for proper aspect ratio on wide screen monitors.
My xp machine runs a Asus ROG G73SW Laptop 2nd gen i7 took off POS 7 and installed xp Mce 2005 gtx 440m with 4tb ssd 16gb ddr3 ram xp Mce 2005 Best System would be a 4th gen i7 Gtx 960. XP and still be Activated online no Telephone required Just activated today. Your System will also support Windows 2000 Which is what I would use on a core 2 duo.
very nice build, but actually changing the graphics card to the Geforce 700 series, i think will not give to xp a lot more, because already the gt 9400 it's a direct x 10 card :/ and xp can only use up to dx 9, thing will change if go to windows 7 than that card will be i nice upgrade for that cpu, i had a similar system, in my house. Cpu: intel c2q 9400 M/B: ASUS P5G41T -LX with broken audio integrated chip :( (but working fine without audio) RAM 4gb ddr 3 1333Mhz, VIdeo card: AtI radeon HD 5670 1gb (DX 11 Card) with a little 160gb sata drive recovered from another pc i had test with windows 10 but after the latest update it was too slow, probably 4gb are not enough for the new win 10 update :( than i think the best os for that will be windows 7 or some linux distro to get the most updated os, to use on the internet. NIce to see this old system still up and running after all this year :)
@@TheRetroRecall I used to have a Core 2 Quad system, but the motherboard doesn't want to work anymore, so I figured I'd go overkill with the parts I had on hand. :)
The 9400 is a pretty weak card. For gaming, you can get a cheap 8800 GT/250 GTS or a Radeon 6670 or even 6770 that will run circles around that card. That being said, it does depend on what you plan on playing. I think 4 GB RAM and the Core 2 Duo makes for a great XP machine.
If you want to game with this machine, then replace the 9400GT. Those were pretty weak even back then. A 9800 GTX is what I would add if you want to keep it more period correct. But a GTX 750ti would make that system perfect for XP gaming.
Yes, the card I showed in the video is a 750 not a 700. Not sure if it is a. Ti however. I will have to check. Is it not too much hardware for this system?
I have 20 brand new Asustek AMD 8 core CPU 32 GB systems that were all running Windows 10 Pro The December update has caused all of them to turn off for no reason at different times, even just sitting doing nothing. The machines that I loaded Windows 11 onto are doing the exact same thing now. I guess MS has deliberately done this so no machines not specifically built for Windows 11 and will crash and no longer work. I was running XP till 3 years ago and I am going back to XP. I don't know why MS hates their customers
I wonder if the original Windows XP license would allow you to change to a 64-bit version of the same OS, thereby utilizing all the RAM. Maybe a free or cheap ISO file download, where you first have to click [ I Agree ] on numerous statements that you understand you are using a 16 year old OS which is no longer supported, etc, etc. Probably not, since I doubt you could even get a Windows 7 ISO file from Microsoft servers at this time. I certainly like the idea of putting a modern (but light on its feet) Linux distro on there, maybe as a dual boot. But I have no experience with RAID drives. You made no mention of how much of the 500 GB capacity was filled on each drive. One nice thing about XP-era Windows installs was that they relied on using only one primary partition on the drive. In contrast, on my made-in-2011 HP 2000 laptop, the OEM install of Windows 7 Home Premium peculiarly utilizes FOUR primary partitions, as if MS deliberately got HP to make it harder for Linux users to dual boot. A "SYSTEM" 200 MB boot partition (even though my storage drive uses an MBR, not UEFI), the C:\ drive, an HP software recovery partition, and one more that I forget at the moment. Win7 needs the first two just to function, but I made backup/factory-restore DVDs using the HP recovery software, then nuked the third and fourth partitions, and shrank mercilessly the C drive. Now I have Linux Mint running nicely on it, and I only let Windows 7 come out to play when it is not connected to any networks.
My XP box is based on a AMD Phenom X3 at 2.4 GHz. Should have 2GB of ram and a Nvidia GTS 250. It had a GT9500 previously. All based on a MSI Mainboard that has a beta BIOS on it that does not on the MSI website. Reminds me to dump it for the Retroweb when i have some time. Yes. Mine boots in AHCI mode! And it is in a silver case. I keep my Core2 Duo on Windows Vista, thank you very much! How is the SMP Windows 2000 box doing? I just repaired mine 2000 based laptop. The solder of the power jack was cracked. And no that RAID is not hardware based. It is all smoke and mirrors in the driver & firmware. Look up "fake raid".
I haven't touched the win2k system lately, been very busy with projects. Happy to hear you got the power working on your laptop - I've had a few crack at the PCB over the years. I'll check out this fake RAID you speak of :)
ASUS motherboards - I confirm that they were Rock Solid / Heart Touching, like ASUS said under logo. I had many ASUS motherboards and only one died due to explosion of cheap power supply. Great brand. ASRock as a "cheaper brand" (back then) of ASUS now is my favourite brand, but ASUS is my second choice even today. I remember especially my P5QL with P43 chipset - not too expensive, no VRM heatsinks, but stable as rock with over 1 GHz overclock with 45nm CPUs.
Funfact from overseas :D - in Poland generally OEMs was never popular, we went often with custom self-built PCs. None of my friends never had PC other than custom from local store. You can find OEMs mostly in government's bureaus.
Great to know, it will be interesting to see how this system will do by tweaking the settings for more performance. Although not sure how the stock cooler will hold up.
@@TheRetroRecall unfortunately I think not cooler should be your biggest problem, Codegen is known (at least in my motherland) as bad brand of PSUs, so at first try to pick good one to prevent frying great motherboard. Anyway I am impressed that Codegen works in 2024 without any breakdown!
@@TheRetroRecallyeah! I love customs! I am currently watching your videos on my retro build - CPU i5 3330 + MB Gigabyte B75M-D3V + 16 GB DDR3/1600 + GPU GeForce GTX550Ti + PSU BeQuiet 400W + Windows XP x64. Works great with Supermium browser!
The 9400 GT was literally the cheapest graphics card you could get at that point. So if you only want to change the graphics card I would suggest an Geforce 8800/9800 GT. By 2008 that was the card you had to have. Most Vista machines that I build back then would had one of these. I know XP can't do DX10 but their are cheaper but faster than any Geforce 7000 or Radeon HD 2000 card. Back in the day I would've overclocked the E7300 to 3.33 GHz. But that would require a better cooler like an Sycthe Mugen 4, Zalman CNPS 9700 or Thermalright Ultra-120 with the right mounting hardware to go with it. Nowadays its probably cheaper to just buy the proper E8600 used instead. (It was new double the price of the E7300) A E8400 or E8500 would do as well for an ultimate Win XP machine I guess..
Appreciate it! Makes total sense about the CPU cooler - one of the reasons I always hesitate when I see a stock cooler and OC. As for the video card, many have suggested I use the GTX 260 or 750, however as you mentioned, the 9800gt has been mentioned online. Thanks for this!
I have an Asus p5k-premium with a core 2 quad processor with 2.8 GHz, 8 gb of ram and a GeForce thx 750 with 2 gb. I’m thinking of installing windows xp on it for gaming and other nostalgic xp era things like windows movie maker and some recordings using unregistered hypercam 2 lol 💀 also there are some emulators I want to use, but they don’t work properly on windows 11, so yeah. I feel like 8gb of ram is too much for windows xp tho. The 32 bit edition has far more support than the 64 bit edition, but 64 bit will be more beneficial for the 8gb ram
Yes - there does come a point where you will get a little too fast. This happened with earlier DOS gaming as well where you had so turn off the system cache for it to function correctly.
Lol! All jokes aside, it would be interesting to see what this boards max CPU is. I have quite a few. Maybe a different video with benchmarks before... Then after with a better (or OC) CPU, 64 bit OS and SSD setup.
I never thought about the dual boot option. Smart! Yeah I was thinking it may be too much video card for XP, but with a dual boot - you get the best of both worlds.
In my opinion the "perfect" Windows XP PC (if you are only going to have one) is something with a 3rd generation I7 CPU. Something like an OptiPlex 9010. They are technically built for Windows 7, but are the last generation to officially support Windows XP, and all of the drivers exist and are stable.
@@TheRetroRecall What makes it period correct this is well beyond XP being new and the i processors still had XP shipped on them until support ended for those that needed XP.
When I ran XP as a daily (all the way up to about 2012), my last system had an AMD Phenom x4, 4 GB RAM, and a GTX 700 series graphics. That was a beast. Now, I have rebuilt an XP PC for some 95-XP era gaming, and it's running an Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3 GHz, 3 GB RAM, and GTX 950 with 2 GB vRAM. I've also got an eMachines Monster PC running Windows 98 with an Intel Pentium II (or is it a 3? I don't remember), 64 MB RAM, and some random ATi graphics card that I got before building my recent XP machine that was for 95/98 PC gaming. I'm actually trying to start a channel around 95-XP era gaming, and Linux gaming. Not this channel, I created another channel. Just need time to focus on it.
I kept my childhood dell and I got it restored to windows 95 I have another dell that someone loaded xp on and I can't get windows 95 or 98 to load yet but I will figure it out. @@TheRetroRecall
It's fun to tinker with these systems and get them going - much like what we had to do many years ago. Good luck on your build! There are a lot of resources online to help you with it.
I have looked I think someone may have tampored with the bios but im not to sure I put it aside for now as i have one with 95 fully working. Did you ever play with the creative labs text to speech reader it comes with the soudnblaster 64 and 32 models. @@TheRetroRecall
To be honest I never have, however I did see something similar in use one time for accessibility. It was neat to see in action (even though it seemed limited).
A system like this was a dream for me back in 2009 when i was still using an Athlon XP system. Sometimes i can't believe how fast time went and how such a nice system from back then is pretty much worthless in this day and age
I would say that you could probably put on a decent distro of Linux and bring it online. I mean to be practical you probably wouldn't haha. I know my Core2duo system is still running windows 10 now.
@@TheRetroRecall For sure. If you add an ssd it runs Windows 10 pretty good too. I had an old LGA 775 HP Elitedesk at work till last year and i took it for myself after they replaced it with a newer computer. It had a Pentium E5700 which i replaced with a Xeon E3110 that i found in an old server,put 8GB of DDR3 in it and an HD 8570 and it can still do basic things. Even though my main pc is AM5 based i still like to mess with this old stuff. Picked up a barely used 2008 22 inch Dell Ultrasharp monitor for it and got myself a little XP and Vista box
You can activate Win XP and Vista over the internet after installing Legacy Update so no need for telephone activation anymore! Here where i do live, there is something gone wrong with the telephone activation anyway. The audio is somehow corrupted etc so cannot hear the numbers for installation id. just BEEP comes right on some of the numbers :D
I had to use the phone service to activate Windows 7. It was automated And I was asked if I wanted to get it activated through text to my phone. I did it that way and it worked perfect. I activated Windows XP pro and I didn't even need any activation call at all. I think you need to call to activate Windows XP home.
@@MrModamanReviews Well i used XP Home and activated that over internet. Legacy Update does something that it starts working again. And Win 7 does also activate over internet just fine after applying few updates. It is a different story if your machine is not connected to internet which it should't basicly but i always use it just to install updates, activate and installing latest virus definitions. I guess we live in different country so the phone call system might be different too. It was also automated but i had no option for text message, only the automated where you insert your install id and then it gives you the code to write on the activation window.
I didn't know. I'm going to be setting up a segregated network for my retro network to protect the rest of it for when I put any of these machines online. Once that is done I will try the online activation. Cool they still have it going!
@@TheRetroRecallThat's an good idea! I anyway have only like 5 older pcs. One running XP and the rest does run Vista. But someone like you who does alot of this stuff and owns many systems even older than mine, i understand that segregated network will come handy (especially machines from like dumbster etc when the history and possibility of having malware on them is really big risk for your other computers) . I mostly share network via another computer. I dont know if that is any safe but i dont use my machines online after updates etc so i guess it's not that risky.
It would be cool to benchmark the system as is.... Then put the SSD, Winxp 64 and a better video card and get the new results. Then, for the final stage, tweak the ram timing / performance and the CPU - then take another benchmark.
I had the same Asus mobo. That P5Q was a really good board. I recognized it instantly from the heatsinks, but the back panel and the firewire PCI slot addon made it sus from the beginning. Unfortunately this mobo was made too during the capacitor plague and mine got victim of leaky caps. It served as my first NAS at the end of its lifecycle(8Gb DDR2 1066MHz, Q9550).
That's awesome and yes it's a great board - fully feature packed! Thanks for letting me know about it being from the cap plague area - I'll keep an eye out!
@@TheRetroRecall Yeah pretty much anything from like 2003 to 2008 you have to keep an eye on. I have a 2006'ish dell boring box and its caps have yet to have issues as well so its not always a problem.
@@TheRetroRecall I would suggest more than 'keep an eye out' - just bite the bullet and recap the whole MB and PSU before anything starts to leak. I really miss the WinXP days, but even moreso I love Win98SE. Even though it was not a 'secure' system and every user was automatically Admin, I loved the interface, and things seemed to Just Work(tm). Plus, you could still boot to DOS mode and play your older DOS games that didn't suffer from excessive CPU speed.
My perfect xp pcs are a phenom II x4 965 at 4.25 ghz on a msi 970 gaming and radeon hd 4870x2 next to a xeon 5470 at 4.4 ghz on a asus striker 2 formula and a geforce 9800 gx2. Express Gate is a linux environment integrated in the motherboard. Maybe cool to take a look. Yes a gtx 700 series introduces too much of a driver overhead. That cpu will do good with 8800 gtx though.
@@TheRetroRecall Yeah these asus boards are really decent. Will need some new paste on north and south bridge. North bridge can get a little toasty specially while overclocking. Xp is perfect for early retro gaming.
@@TheRetroRecall If the heatsink does not easily come off, do it really slow and not use lots of force. Many of the asus boards have thermal pads on the north and south bridge instead of paste that has turned into concrete. I have seen people ripp the chips right off the board.
Another great tip, thanks. It's funny as I've seen these Thermal pads around and used but I always use the mx4 - I guess I am old school. Thanks again, very much appreciated!
this is fairly close to the stock specs on the work pc my dad brought home when they closed. it even came out around the same time. sure it didn't have a floppy, had 2 gigs of ram, and no surround sound or dedicated video card, but other than that it was pretty close to this. after i made some upgrades to it, it became capable of running crysis at a reasonable fps. even the heaven benchmark runs fairly well all things considered. yes it still works under xp believe it or not although i needed to specifically search for a version that would
Mostly a very nice machine, but I think the GPU does disqualify it a bit from being the "perfect" Windows XP box ;-) A 9400 GT was really more of an Office card when it came out, as also indicated by using DDR2 instead of GDDR3 like all cards from the 9500 GT up to the 9800 GTX. Nvidia Cards come with Windows XP drivers all the way up to the GTX 780 Ti or GTX 950. Even getting something like a used GTX 750, which still comes with no need for PCIe power, and outperforms the 9400 GT by roughly 3000% would be an enormous upgrade for this machine, and can probably be done for around 10 to 15 of your favourite currency units. Edit: Just realized that I randomly stumbled over your Video, and don't actually know if you are focused on Gaming like most Channels I follow. Maybe you are entirely happy with an Office classe GPU for your own needs, in which case kindly ignore my irrelevant ramblings ... Edit2: Continued to watch the video, and you brought up the question yourself. So yeah: Definitely go for something along the lines of a GTX 750. I'm curious about the card you quickly showed, because a GTX 700 doesn't really exist, according to Nvidia / Wikipedia? Anything from a 710 to a 780 Ti, but no 700 ... And the 780 Ti marks the absolute top-end of what an XP PC can achieve, but it's probably overkill, and you'll have to check if the PSU will be happy with that many PCIe-Cables being required. It didn't look like it to me at first glance ;-) A GTX 950 with a single 6-Pin may be a good alternative, or maybe a 760. But honestly, the 750 is generally more than enough for anything that you really want to run on a Windows XP PC and a DVI-connected monitor. Anything that wants more GPU power probably loves a bigger screen as well. Plus the cost of a used 750 doesn't turn the free PC into a money-sink immediately.
Haha indeed. I guess perfect is quite subjective and has generated quite a bit of discussion (which was the goal). I did mention the video card in the video for that reason being a weaker point. Heck, we could say put an SSD in there and more memory - it doesn't end haha. I do like the idea of a GPU upgrade as it would open the door to a wider range of compatibility without it being 'too much hardware' for the machine.
I have a custom built Windows XP PC with these specs: MSI P35 Neo Motherboard Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 2.00 GHz Processor Transcend 5 GB of DDR2 RAM (2x2 GB and 2x512 MB) Western Digital 500 GB SATA II HDD nVidia GeForce 8600 GT 256 MB Pioneer DWR-111D DVD-RW Drive Chieftec GPS-350EB-101 A PSU APEX PC-115 (Beige/Blue) Case
You’re making me sorry I gave away my core 2 duo XP machine years ago! You probably know Nvidia stopped supporting 9xxx cards with new drivers some years ago. You might be able to find a driver for Windows 7 but Windows 10 is almost certainly off the table. I also suggest you stay with 32 bit operating systems as many I/O cards, especially parallel, are not 64 bit compatible.
Weak GPU for the time. An 8800GT would be more appropriate for this hardware generation, and way more powerful. I could be wrong, but I think the GTX 700 would be overkill, since you're not likely to find many (if any) games that can run on XP and stress it out at all.
1:41 “Normally my core2 machines have vista or 7 on them depending on the cpu” there is literally no practical reason to run vista over 7 except nostalgia. 7 is compatible with all vista drivers and windows 7 even performs the same or better as vista in most if not all instances. With vista You’re just suffering with worse support for modern programs like browsers for no reason.
Leave the system as is, but change the graphics card to the one you showed in the video. By the way cool memories from seeing quake 4 or is it doom 3 ? , they very simular.
My retro PC is from 2008 too! It contains: 1. Core 2 Duo E8600 @2.80 GHz (OC to 3.00GHz) 2. Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L 3. 4 GB DDR2 @800 Mhz 4. 1TB Seagate HDD 7200 RPM 5. Nvidia GeForce GT 710 (Was put into it recently in 2023) It was originally with Windows Vista... Upgraded to Windows 7 in 2013...
its pretty awesome! I always wanted either Core 2 Duo E8500 or E8600 since they came unlocked, realistically speaking was a LOT cheaper than Intel Xeon Processor X3380 (good luck with BIOS upgrading although your Motherboard can support Xeon E5450) or the Extreme 9770 (the power starved). my friend had the Q9650 which cost him his entire salary with 8800GTX! 710 is more efficient than 8600GT with 4X the ram. You just need an SSD with a newer "lite" version operating system(10 or 8.1) then you are good to go for another 5 years. I haven't tried linux with graphics cards so I don't know about Nvidia compatibility
if you adjust your FSB to 333 and core voltage to 1,3625V you can run your CPU at 3,33Ghz no problem with this board. I actually have one of these motherboards and pretty much have my OC PB with it getting a CPU to run over 150% of it´s stock speed and had a GTX260 and XP on it. However being Asus this specific board can be sooooo temperamental and flaky when it feels like it for no obvious reason but it is worse when you want FSBs above 1600mhz so I don´t think you would notice that many problems with 1333 but mine gives issues out of nowhere every now and then even on lower speeds. I used mine with a Raid 0 configuration and used it for playing music in my old garage before I moved out and it mostly worked. I suggest you try running it overclocked because the gain you get is absolutely insane and it probably even work with the stock cooler too. but I recommend one of the bigger anyway.
Thanks for this! I have had nothing but excellent experiences with ASUS boards which is awesome. I think this board will also support a Core2 Quad cpu which could possibly be a nice addition.
@@TheRetroRecall Yeah it will run pretty much any cpu you put in it. For me I have never owned a completely perfect Asus ever. At one point it was not even compatible with a cpu that was even stated on the box the board came in. In my 4790K system the system randomly freezes during boot and not every time but when it does it freezes for up to 2 minutes and then resumes again and it did this from the first day I got this brand new and still does it today
Good to know about the cpu. As for your experience, that's unfortunate. Did you say for any ASUS board you have owned that you have never had one work correctly?
@@TheRetroRecall yes. That is correct. None ever did work perfectly for me in the 30 years I been a heavy computer enthusiast. There always been either a hardware or software related issue with everything computer part related Asus. But I got a 27” 144HZ Asus screen I been very happy with so this been good at least and if it breaks now most other brands would too after 10+ years of use.
Damn, that's almost my old box, which was my daily driver for about a decade or so... The gfx card will hold you back, that's for sure, had a 9600GS and even that wasn't all that much. If you have anything better, it's worth it. You can get a bit more out of the 7300, 2.9-3.0 should be easy, anything over that might need a non stock cooler. The P5Q was a bit "touchy" as far as RAM goes, if you loaded all slots, but... XP is limited to 4GB so shouldn't be too hard hitting at least 3Ghz on a 2x2GB. p.s. i still got it in a box (mobo/cpu/ram), even if i don't have a use for it, it just seemed rotten to throw it in the bin...
@@TheRetroRecall Not much use and even less "real estate". Have 2 i5-2500's "office pcs" that i got for 40 bucks or so, one for XP and the other for W7. Great boxes because they can be BRUTALLY underclocked for testing purposes while having lots of RAM.
vorrei veramente vedere una versione di questo pc con windows vista prima e poi con windows 7 per paragonare le prestazioni dei giochi 2002 / 2013 (leggeri) per vedere quale os da Piu fps / soddisfazione... voglio dire 7 e buono ma xp non scherza. invece vista è... vista. ( cmunque la supporta una nvidia 750 ?
Interesting. I think it would support an Nvidia 750 as long as there are drivers. They are really good at supporting their hardware. I'll add your request to the list and maybe sometime I'll do the video :)
I ran window XP on a first gen core 2 E6300 1.6ghz with an 6600GT graphics card, happy days. IMO, win XP is at the moment the newest O/S which should be considered Retro.
That's awesome! I know quite a few businesses that still run systems win with XP pro and have been since 2004. They do so for legacy software and real mode serial compatibility.
What a great machine. This comes from a unique place in time when average PCs were finally fast enough to run Windows and anything else, with a satisfactory experience rather than struggling. Definitely worthy of preserving. The ONLY change I would make is clone both drives to SATA SSDs. Those drives have a lot of years behind them and will probably be the first things to fail. So swap in two SSDs and keep it in RAID for fun.
My first pc build was in the summer of 2007. Great times! Had a Core 2 Duo E6320, 2GB DDR2 667MHz, and an MSI 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI-E. Absolutely massive upgrade from my Pentium 3 1GHz machine I struggled with until then. Went straight from Win 2K to Vista and back to XP because Vista ran like crap 😂 solid mid range pc for only $650 back then. Now it would be like $1800...
I need to pull it back out again to finish it, but my XP rig is insane overkill, being a Asus Sabertooth Z77 board, i7-3770K, 16GB DDR3-2133, 512GB SSD, and a EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti Classified 6GB for graphics (of which only 4GB of the 6GB vram is seen by windows xp) So yeah, it’s a ridiculous machine. Hoping one day to get it finished, but I’d like a more airflow-focused case for it that still has a DVD drive, I rebuilt it into a different one than what was shown in my prior videos, and thermals are poor, so I’ve held off for now until I make my mind up on what I want to do with it.
Interesting how at each point in time 5-10 years old hardware is seen as "old junk" and usually goes straight into the trash can... But when it reaches 15+ years of age, it's suddenly "retro", "vintage" and cool and valuable again.
Idk why cause those pc are quite capable and in other countries people would use it like new.
For sure, I see it all of the time.
That's true of lots of other things too, e.g. cars, although with cars it's more like 30+ years before something is really retro/vintage/cool/valuable.
You'd be surprised of what people throw out sometimes, at least here in sweden.
I got a ryzen 7 3700x & gtx 1660 ti from the scrapyard electronics container out of a thrown out hp pavilion gaming pc, had no ram or storage though.
Haven't tested the 3700x yet but might do it later today if im not too busy doing other stuff that needs to be done today.
(I know a small batch of motherboards had a bios version which ends up overvolting the ryzen 3000 series cpu's frying one memory channel eventually which can look like the pc breaking ofc.) but the HP 1660 ti works perfectly fine.
Awesome find! Good luck on the testing.. Interested to hear how it turns out :)
the good old core 2 duo you gotta love those bad boys.
Absolutely
Windows XP Professional 32 Bit SP3 in 2024
It's a beautiful feeling :)
@@TheRetroRecall 100% Facts
For more information on Asus ExpressGate, Cathode Ray Dude did a video on it as part of his Quick Start series.
Thanks! I'll check it out. I know nothing about it lol.
@@TheRetroRecall you're welcome. It's an interesting one.
I had an Asus gaming laptop with ExpressGate. It had Windows 7 instead of Vista. It had a I5 560M cpu and a GTS 360M gpu with 4 gb ram and a 500gb hdd. I later upgraded it to a 256 gb ssd and 8 gb ram and installed Ubuntu (which eliminated the ExpressGate partition). I have been watching CRD on these quick start laptops.
Install a gtx 260😊 has af fast memory bus
I think I may have one!! I'll check.
My main XP system is a:
* Core 2 Quad Q9550 processor
* Asus P5K-E Motnerboard
* 4 GB RAM
* 128gb SSD.
* ATI 5850 1GB graphics card.
* SB Audigy 2 PCI sound card
* Intel Wifi-N Pci-e card.
* 2 x DVD burners (Pioneer 218L + Optiarc AD-7200S)
* 22 inch widescreen monitor (1680 x 1050 resolution, as was popular in the day)
It rips pretty hard for the era of games it needs to run, plus lets me burn DVDs for other systems. I don't have a floppy in it, but can plug a USB floppy drive into it easy enough. You can generally set core affinity for any games that don't like quad core.
That's a pretty nice build. I have a core 2 Quad sitting around, I need to check which one it is... However I'm sure this board will support it.
Sounds a lot like mine ... I have 8 gb of ram and 500 SSD only difference hehe
Awesome!
Yeah!!
With just an additional 4 gb of ram,it would greatly run Win7,or even Win10!.
@@TheRetroRecall Yeah, The P5Q supports all the Quads I know about.
@DuneRunnerEnterprises Yes, but then why not use something even newer and more powerful. Additionally, If I want 8gb in my system, I can change that out in about 10 minutes. But I get where you are coming from
I have three XP machines currently. I had my 11 year old daughter build one as a learning experience. We connect them up and have been playing some Command and Conquer Generals on it. She loves that game and we have a great time.
Nice!! Now those are great memories :)
When vista came out, before sp1- many people reverted to xp and xp was still offered as a factory option, until windows 7 was released
Yes 100%. Although I had moved to Vista, other machines I had stayed with XP due to it being so robust.
@TheRetroRecall i did everything i could to strip down start-up programs and unneeded windows features
Make sense!
I have a similar motherboard to that in your computer.
I want to upgrade it with a Quad core CPU and something like a GTX 750, that would be about the max gfx not to bottleneck performance between the gpu and cpu.
Overall you have a great system right there. It will plow through most games and software of the era like a charm.
Awesome thanks! I have a Core2 Quad and a GTX 750... So I think that will be nice additions.
It’s From 2008 It’s Slightly Retro But It’s Modern For A Computer Capable Of Natively Running Windows XP With Full Driver Support
For sure. And arguably can still be used today and will wupport Win10 or a good Linux.
Well for an XP machine this damn thing is beast, A BEAST!! the only upgrades I would suggest is looking up/into a wifi/Bluetooth PCI/PCI Express Wi-Fi/Bluetooth card and a 52-1 memory card reader..
Smart - can't have enough PORTS LOL. Thanks for the recommendation!
Ah yes a WiFi/Bluetooth/wifi/Bluetooth card. I need two WiFi an Bluetooths
Give me all the ports, WiFi and Bluetooth!
I have a gigabyte 945-s2c motherboard. I upgraded it to Max core 2 duo cpu and 4gb Ram, with an SSD and a graphic card, Windows 10, and now it's my main pc ❤
That's awesome!! I love hearing the older tech still in use today.
Built my first PC in mid-2009, which then ran Windows XP for the first 2 years of it's life. After carefully considering performance and price, I went with an ASUS P5Q3 motherboard, 2 X 2GB DDR3 1333, and a Q9550 in a beautiful Thermatake SopranoRS 101 case with a 500W Thermaltake power supply. Topped with a 500GB Western Digital HD, DVD drive, and a Sapphire HD 4850 GPU. Played all the games I was interested in at the highest settings (in 1680 x 1050). Before the lighting struck and ended that wonderful motherboard sometime in 2018, I had maxed the RAM to 4 X 4GB of DDR3 1600, easily overclocked the Q9550 from 2.83Ghz to 3.4Ghz, upgraded the HD to a 1TB SSD, swapped the DVD drive for a Blu-ray, upgraded to the HD 6950 (unlocked to a HD 6970) GPU and Windows 10. A BEAST!
Now that was a system!!! Too bad the lightning got it. Ahhh the Blu ray drives. Short lived - especially for anyone wanting to write 25gbs of data (which I am going to be doing this afternoon 😂)
Ok, Top of the line graphics for Nvidia that year was the 9800 GTX+ (or the GX2 if you feel like dealing with a dual GPU card) But you can probably put in a midrange 200 or 300 series card before you run into a bottleneck. The 700 might be pushing it, but it'd be interesting to see.
Appreciate it!
I still have this mobo since 2008, today I use it as an emulation platform. The specs:
CPU: Xeon E5450
Ram: 8GiB DDR2
GPU: HD4870
Storage: 64GiB SSD for the system and a 500GiB for games
O.S: Windows 10 X64
Monitor: CRT TV connected via S-Video (looks like Ati HD 4000 series are the last with good s-video support).
Nice setup!
I eventually want to get around to building an unusual XP build on the budget.
My plan is to use a GT 730, C2Q (or possibly a Pentium G2140), and a SD to SATA adapter with a SanDisk 256 GB SD card.
That would be a fun build. The SD adapter is a nice touch for easy access and versatility for OS swaps etc. Nice!
Love it! I had to take my hand off the mouse when you started playing though. I kept pausing the video because of my hand reflexes.
Edit: Leave as is please. You can run a dual boot system if anything.
“Heat pipe”
Ok. Thanks.
Core 2 duo's make really good systems for windows xp. The key thing is they have good drivers and are still available for good prices. I run mine with a Nvidia quadro k620 for graphics. Performance is great it was cheep and the drivers are stable and easy to find.
Exactly. I find if you have the more mainstream well known brands - you are set as there is a wide range of drivers available.
My Windows XP PC is a:
Core 2 Duo E6550 2.33GHZ
Gigabyte G31M-ES2L Motherboard
PNY Verto NVIDIA 9600 GT
Sound Blaster X-Fi Extreme PCI
4GB DDR2 800 Ram
250GB Samsung Spinpoint (OS)
320GB Western Digital Cavair Blue (Games)
Sata DVD Burner
Floppy Drive
Thermaltake 430W Power Supply
Fratcal Design Core 1100
Dell E1908 19" 1280:1024 Monitor
Overall, nice system. If anything I would replace the power supply because Codegen power supplies are not very reliable and are built pretty cheap.
Nice system! Yes for sure, I definitely will be replacing that PSU as I've been told they have been known to damage the board.
A Nascom 1 was my first computer, it would be worth a lot of money now but after moving a few times things get thrown away instead of being put in a box in the attic.
Yes that happened quite a bit. Now people are hunting for this older tech.
Very well presented and detailed breakdown of this Asus motherboard computer. One of my computers designed for Windows XP and currently with Windows XP on it of the same vintage (2008-2009) has the Gigabyte ga-ma790x-ud4p motherboard. I like it as I think it's well-built and still runs well. It has an AMD Phenom II X4 940 processor with DDR2 RAM. I wish it had DDR3 RAM and SATA3 rather than DDR2 RAM and SATA2 but for its day it was the norm. It's a fast-running XP-based system and could be much faster if I used an SSD for the system drive. As for operating systems, I think you'll be limited by the device drivers that work on your hardware. My Gigabyte motherboard is supported with drivers for Windows XP, Vista, and Windows 7 by Gigabyte. I don't know if Windows 10 will run on it (or run well) but I'm skeptical. XP is a good OS and your motherboard was designed for it so it seems a good choice. On the other hand, taking Vista or Windows 7 for a test drive on it may prove to be worthwhile.
This one brings back alot of memories. Had a very similar system back in the day, which was my first fairly decent pc. Mine had the Asus P5Q Deluxe with a Q8200, 4gb of 1066 OCZ Ram, a 9400GT, 160G HDD and Windows Xp. That 9400GT wasn't too great so I quickly upgraded to a much faster GTX470 and also upgraded to Windows 7. I used that system until the end of 2012 when I finally replaced it with something newer.
That's sound slike a great machine!
@@TheRetroRecall I did build that one in early 2009, so the then new i7 1366 platform had already been launched, but at that time I was still in school and simply could not afford something that pricey. But still that machine was a huge step forward over the old K7 Athlon I was using before. Honestly that 9400GT wasn't that great and already kinda obsolete in 2010. The Q8200 is pretty much a Q6600 in 45nm and with less cache and started to slightly bottleneck the gpu in newer titles. Back then multi gpu setups were all the rage and I always dreamt about owning one one day. So I upgraded to a much nicer socket 2011 platform which actually ran (with minor upgrades) unitl a couple months ago. That Q8200 still lives on in a slightly newer Dell machine. I still own all the other stuff to, funny enough that Asus currently has a E7300 in it.
Thanks for sharing this. I think I'm going to replace the card with the GTX 750 and do other updates in a future video.
I have that same board, It's pretty nice. I recommend updating to the latest non beta bios, it fixes some memory incompatibilities that cause crashes with some Kingston ram(like the kit was using) I have a Core 2 Quad Q9550 and 8GB of ddr2-800 in it, it can take 16gb though. Another nice thing is that it supports PCI-E 2.0, so you can put better graphics cards into it and not lose as much performance.
Thanks for the info, much appreciated! I'll check the latest BIOS out.
@@TheRetroRecall it appears to already have the version with that fix, but you may as well update anyway. Mine is rock solid stable on the latest, which is 2209.
Thanks again. Glad to hear from someone who tested it out and can report back that it is stable.
It's got a floppy drive it's definitely retro.
Agreed.
What A Sweet XP Computer . . . 🙂
I Will Take XP, XP-Media Center, 7, And 7 Media Center, Over 10 And 11 Every Time . . . :-)
Love this!
Yep . . .@@TheRetroRecall ;-)
Do You Know Why Microsoft, aka Micro-Shit Removed The Media Center Program From Their Later OS's After 8 ?
I did not... other than the tech was changing where people didn't use PC's for home media centres anymore...?
Darn . . .@@TheRetroRecall I Was Hoping That You Did, Because I Have 3 Of The 2005 Sony VAIO 200 Disc Carousel DVD Players, Which I Can Only Use With XP Media Center, Or 7 Media Center, And I Never Had Or Used 8, So I Am A Little Constrained, Regarding Using Them Here . . . ;-0
My secondary PC is an Intel Core 2 Quad, GT710, 4gb of DDR2 ram and two 128GB SSD. I have installed Windows XP, Vista and 7 on one SSD and the other one runs Windows 10 LTSC. You could do something similar to what I have and have multiple OS installed, maybe replace Vista with Linux.
Awesome build and great ideas, thank you!
Yeah, I think that I’d take my chances with a SFF Optiplex 745.
Haha for sure - the only challenge I have seen is getting compatible, decent low profile cards that perform well. Not saying its impossible, just it can be challenging.
Cable management was not a thing back then. Yes I would know, because I was there :-)
Haha true - so I guess when I refer to cable management.. I'm referring to keeping them as tight, clean and out of the way of airflow. In this case, it looks like they did a pretty good job (Imo). Those were the days haha.
I have a old Core Duo macine with XP Pro, E8500 CPU, Asus dual fan 750Ti, 4GB DDR3 1600MHZ memory, Floppy drive, DVD multi drive, Creative Audigy 2 value PCI sound card, on a AsRock motherbaoard, MATX. System if fast. Have a Smsung 1TB SSD for a boot drive. Should be a nice reliable system for me.
I also have on the other exteme,
Ivy Bridge I7-3770 CPU
16GB Corsair Vengance memory at 1600MHz mainly because I left it in the board.
AMD HD 7970 GPU
Creative RX 5.1 PCIe sound card
This one is a beast for XP.
As for your system,
700 series GPU might work, You can run all the way up to 980Ti on that thing. Drivers are better on AMD HD series GPUs. New Nvidia drivers don't allow for proper aspect ratio on wide screen monitors.
Appreciate this, love your system builds!
Also depending on the cpu you can still use supermium that is a chrome fork for xp and mypal one of the Firefox forks for xp
Thanks!!
Main pale moon doesn’t work last I checked, but there are forks like mypal that do work fine
@@notNajimi yes I confused the name my bad. My pal does require some cpu extensions tho.
Still use a i5 2500 for old Windows XP games and it's really fast for games 1998-2014 lol.
Nice setup!!
Motherboard is a n ASUS P5Q I have the exact same board in my Vista machine. Running a Q2Quad CPU
Nice! I have a quad here I'd like to stick in it. Do some benchmarking etc in a future vid!
I'm collecting some ddr2 systems first for xp vista compatibility and seven later because the video card is still cheap and you can do sli.
Yes for sure. It's fun tweaking these older systems.. I'm glad to hear someone else is also indulging in my bad habit 😂
My xp machine runs a Asus ROG G73SW Laptop 2nd gen i7 took off POS 7 and installed xp Mce 2005 gtx 440m with 4tb ssd 16gb ddr3 ram xp Mce 2005 Best System would be a 4th gen i7 Gtx 960. XP and still be Activated online no Telephone required Just activated today. Your System will also support Windows 2000 Which is what I would use on a core 2 duo.
Nice system! I wish 98 would support Dual CPU.
@@TheRetroRecall I wish Me could. I prefer it over 98.
very nice build, but actually changing the graphics card to the Geforce 700 series, i think will not give to xp a lot more, because already the gt 9400 it's a direct x 10 card :/ and xp can only use up to dx 9, thing will change if go to windows 7 than that card will be i nice upgrade for that cpu, i had a similar system, in my house.
Cpu: intel c2q 9400
M/B: ASUS P5G41T -LX with broken audio integrated chip :( (but working fine without audio)
RAM 4gb ddr 3 1333Mhz,
VIdeo card: AtI radeon HD 5670 1gb (DX 11 Card)
with a little 160gb sata drive recovered from another pc
i had test with windows 10 but after the latest update it was too slow, probably 4gb are not enough for the new win 10 update :(
than i think the best os for that will be windows 7 or some linux distro to get the most updated os, to use on the internet.
NIce to see this old system still up and running after all this year :)
Yes, and thank you! Sounds like you have a nice system yourself - minus the sound card issue.
I think you should upgrade it to 8GB of RAM and put XP64 or figure out PAE in XP) on an SSD.. Put a sound blaster in it and a better GPU.
There's been lots of great suggestions. I'm definitely going to do a future video on this machine with benchmarking :)
A q9550 cpu would be nice in that system 🙂
For sure! I have a Core2 Quad around here that I can use, I just don't exactly know what one it is. Stay tuned!
My Windows XP machine is running a Core i5 2400, 16 GBs of RAM (although 32 bit) and an AMD HD 7850 OC.
Nice build!
@@TheRetroRecall I used to have a Core 2 Quad system, but the motherboard doesn't want to work anymore, so I figured I'd go overkill with the parts I had on hand. :)
Haha indeed!
The 9400 is a pretty weak card. For gaming, you can get a cheap 8800 GT/250 GTS or a Radeon 6670 or even 6770 that will run circles around that card. That being said, it does depend on what you plan on playing.
I think 4 GB RAM and the Core 2 Duo makes for a great XP machine.
Thanks and I Think I have a GTX 260 / 750 card around.
This is exactly like my brother's desktop PC configuration, and still the best! But my brother uses ABIT IP35P motherboard, not from ASUS.
Nice. I had a few ABIT MB's back in the day and found them quite reliable.
If you want to game with this machine, then replace the 9400GT. Those were pretty weak even back then. A 9800 GTX is what I would add if you want to keep it more period correct. But a GTX 750ti would make that system perfect for XP gaming.
Yes, the card I showed in the video is a 750 not a 700. Not sure if it is a. Ti however. I will have to check. Is it not too much hardware for this system?
@@TheRetroRecallIt should be fine.
Is the 9800 a good card for games around 2010?
Appreciate it!
I have 20 brand new Asustek AMD 8 core CPU 32 GB systems that were all running Windows 10 Pro
The December update has caused all of them to turn off for no reason at different times, even just sitting doing nothing.
The machines that I loaded Windows 11 onto are doing the exact same thing now.
I guess MS has deliberately done this so no machines not specifically built for Windows 11 and will crash and no longer work.
I was running XP till 3 years ago and I am going back to XP.
I don't know why MS hates their customers
That is so weird - I'll have to look into that on my side as I have a few systems like that. If that's the case - terrible move on MS part...
That ackward moment when I remember that I have a core2quad as daily driver pc
Haha no shame in that!!!!!
I wonder if the original Windows XP license would allow you to change to a 64-bit version of the same OS, thereby utilizing all the RAM. Maybe a free or cheap ISO file download, where you first have to click [ I Agree ] on numerous statements that you understand you are using a 16 year old OS which is no longer supported, etc, etc.
Probably not, since I doubt you could even get a Windows 7 ISO file from Microsoft servers at this time.
I certainly like the idea of putting a modern (but light on its feet) Linux distro on there, maybe as a dual boot. But I have no experience with RAID drives. You made no mention of how much of the 500 GB capacity was filled on each drive. One nice thing about XP-era Windows installs was that they relied on using only one primary partition on the drive. In contrast, on my made-in-2011 HP 2000 laptop, the OEM install of Windows 7 Home Premium peculiarly utilizes FOUR primary partitions, as if MS deliberately got HP to make it harder for Linux users to dual boot. A "SYSTEM" 200 MB boot partition (even though my storage drive uses an MBR, not UEFI), the C:\ drive, an HP software recovery partition, and one more that I forget at the moment. Win7 needs the first two just to function, but I made backup/factory-restore DVDs using the HP recovery software, then nuked the third and fourth partitions, and shrank mercilessly the C drive. Now I have Linux Mint running nicely on it, and I only let Windows 7 come out to play when it is not connected to any networks.
My XP box is based on a AMD Phenom X3 at 2.4 GHz. Should have 2GB of ram and a Nvidia GTS 250. It had a GT9500 previously. All based on a MSI Mainboard that has a beta BIOS on it that does not on the MSI website. Reminds me to dump it for the Retroweb when i have some time.
Yes. Mine boots in AHCI mode! And it is in a silver case.
I keep my Core2 Duo on Windows Vista, thank you very much!
How is the SMP Windows 2000 box doing? I just repaired mine 2000 based laptop. The solder of the power jack was cracked.
And no that RAID is not hardware based. It is all smoke and mirrors in the driver & firmware. Look up "fake raid".
I haven't touched the win2k system lately, been very busy with projects. Happy to hear you got the power working on your laptop - I've had a few crack at the PCB over the years.
I'll check out this fake RAID you speak of :)
ASUS motherboards - I confirm that they were Rock Solid / Heart Touching, like ASUS said under logo. I had many ASUS motherboards and only one died due to explosion of cheap power supply. Great brand. ASRock as a "cheaper brand" (back then) of ASUS now is my favourite brand, but ASUS is my second choice even today.
I remember especially my P5QL with P43 chipset - not too expensive, no VRM heatsinks, but stable as rock with over 1 GHz overclock with 45nm CPUs.
Funfact from overseas :D - in Poland generally OEMs was never popular, we went often with custom self-built PCs. None of my friends never had PC other than custom from local store. You can find OEMs mostly in government's bureaus.
Great to know, it will be interesting to see how this system will do by tweaking the settings for more performance. Although not sure how the stock cooler will hold up.
Yes! Besides, custom PC's were / are a lot of fun!
@@TheRetroRecall unfortunately I think not cooler should be your biggest problem, Codegen is known (at least in my motherland) as bad brand of PSUs, so at first try to pick good one to prevent frying great motherboard. Anyway I am impressed that Codegen works in 2024 without any breakdown!
@@TheRetroRecallyeah! I love customs! I am currently watching your videos on my retro build - CPU i5 3330 + MB Gigabyte B75M-D3V + 16 GB DDR3/1600 + GPU GeForce GTX550Ti + PSU BeQuiet 400W + Windows XP x64. Works great with Supermium browser!
The 9400 GT was literally the cheapest graphics card you could get at that point. So if you only want to change the graphics card I would suggest an Geforce 8800/9800 GT. By 2008 that was the card you had to have. Most Vista machines that I build back then would had one of these. I know XP can't do DX10 but their are cheaper but faster than any Geforce 7000 or Radeon HD 2000 card.
Back in the day I would've overclocked the E7300 to 3.33 GHz. But that would require a better cooler like an Sycthe Mugen 4, Zalman CNPS 9700 or Thermalright Ultra-120 with the right mounting hardware to go with it. Nowadays its probably cheaper to just buy the proper E8600 used instead. (It was new double the price of the E7300) A E8400 or E8500 would do as well for an ultimate Win XP machine I guess..
Appreciate it! Makes total sense about the CPU cooler - one of the reasons I always hesitate when I see a stock cooler and OC. As for the video card, many have suggested I use the GTX 260 or 750, however as you mentioned, the 9800gt has been mentioned online. Thanks for this!
I have an Asus p5k-premium with a core 2 quad processor with 2.8 GHz, 8 gb of ram and a GeForce thx 750 with 2 gb. I’m thinking of installing windows xp on it for gaming and other nostalgic xp era things like windows movie maker and some recordings using unregistered hypercam 2 lol 💀 also there are some emulators I want to use, but they don’t work properly on windows 11, so yeah.
I feel like 8gb of ram is too much for windows xp tho. The 32 bit edition has far more support than the 64 bit edition, but 64 bit will be more beneficial for the 8gb ram
That sounds like a great build and yes you are right about the ram. I always found that 3gb was fine for Windows XP.
Hell, yeh. A psu mounted top config so the volts pull on the cpusage. like old times.
Haha!
but can it run windows 11 without lag?
I'm not sure if it can run 11 at all due to the new MS update.
i made my lenovo think centre m73 with 4th gen i3 and 8gb ram n a cheap ssd and a cheap gpu run xp before! it was too fast for its own good!
Yes - there does come a point where you will get a little too fast. This happened with earlier DOS gaming as well where you had so turn off the system cache for it to function correctly.
Okay, but can it run Vista?
Lol.. I would say yes. That said, I almosttried CRYSIS. LOL
Why not update as LGA1700 :) Maybe can run XP LOL
Lol! All jokes aside, it would be interesting to see what this boards max CPU is. I have quite a few. Maybe a different video with benchmarks before... Then after with a better (or OC) CPU, 64 bit OS and SSD setup.
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Thanks
@@TheRetroRecall thanks✌
4gb card like the gtx 970 or 980 using modded drivers for xp and dual boot windows 7 perfect 2 in 1 retro gamer pc bit lame for windows 10
I never thought about the dual boot option. Smart! Yeah I was thinking it may be too much video card for XP, but with a dual boot - you get the best of both worlds.
Upgrade the ram to 2 gigs of ram
I believe the machine is currently at 3gb.
I didn't think xp would see anything passed 2 gigs of ram
Change your audio output from 4800k to 19600k audio output on the sound itself if you wish
4gb and if you want more you need the 64 bit version.
upgrade Windows 7 Ultra
After much thought I may be doing a separate Windows 7 build in the future. It was a great OS.
Love your videos mate but should you really be hitting the back of the power supply with a screwdriver 🪛
Thanks. Are you indicating that I should be looking inside for bad caps etc?
@@TheRetroRecall lol maybe 🤔 but also not be hitting the back of the power supply with a screwdriver ya know Call me paranoid
Haha I've never heard this one before.
@@TheRetroRecall I mean anything electric you shouldn’t be hitting with a screwdriver unless ya know what your doing lol 😂
Lol!
Donate it to 'old64goat'!
Haha. I will be keeping the systems for a while yet as part of the channel. There may be a time when I decide to part with them.
In my opinion the "perfect" Windows XP PC (if you are only going to have one) is something with a 3rd generation I7 CPU. Something like an OptiPlex 9010. They are technically built for Windows 7, but are the last generation to officially support Windows XP, and all of the drivers exist and are stable.
Good to know. I think era specific is what I was aiming at. Thinking back in 2008 this would have been a beast running XP.
@@TheRetroRecall What makes it period correct this is well beyond XP being new and the i processors still had XP shipped on them until support ended for those that needed XP.
When I ran XP as a daily (all the way up to about 2012), my last system had an AMD Phenom x4, 4 GB RAM, and a GTX 700 series graphics. That was a beast.
Now, I have rebuilt an XP PC for some 95-XP era gaming, and it's running an Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3 GHz, 3 GB RAM, and GTX 950 with 2 GB vRAM.
I've also got an eMachines Monster PC running Windows 98 with an Intel Pentium II (or is it a 3? I don't remember), 64 MB RAM, and some random ATi graphics card that I got before building my recent XP machine that was for 95/98 PC gaming.
I'm actually trying to start a channel around 95-XP era gaming, and Linux gaming. Not this channel, I created another channel. Just need time to focus on it.
It's a fun hobby for sure!! What is your channel, I'll check it out :)
I kept my childhood dell and I got it restored to windows 95 I have another dell that someone loaded xp on and I can't get windows 95 or 98 to load yet but I will figure it out. @@TheRetroRecall
It's fun to tinker with these systems and get them going - much like what we had to do many years ago. Good luck on your build! There are a lot of resources online to help you with it.
I have looked I think someone may have tampored with the bios but im not to sure I put it aside for now as i have one with 95 fully working. Did you ever play with the creative labs text to speech reader it comes with the soudnblaster 64 and 32 models. @@TheRetroRecall
To be honest I never have, however I did see something similar in use one time for accessibility. It was neat to see in action (even though it seemed limited).
A system like this was a dream for me back in 2009 when i was still using an Athlon XP system. Sometimes i can't believe how fast time went and how such a nice system from back then is pretty much worthless in this day and age
I would say that you could probably put on a decent distro of Linux and bring it online. I mean to be practical you probably wouldn't haha. I know my Core2duo system is still running windows 10 now.
@@TheRetroRecall For sure. If you add an ssd it runs Windows 10 pretty good too. I had an old LGA 775 HP Elitedesk at work till last year and i took it for myself after they replaced it with a newer computer. It had a Pentium E5700 which i replaced with a Xeon E3110 that i found in an old server,put 8GB of DDR3 in it and an HD 8570 and it can still do basic things. Even though my main pc is AM5 based i still like to mess with this old stuff. Picked up a barely used 2008 22 inch Dell Ultrasharp monitor for it and got myself a little XP and Vista box
That's awesome!! I love a lot of those Dell monitors - I found them easy on the eyes. Enjoy the xp and Vista machines!
The first PC I built was in 2006, I was super on top of hardware in this era.
Awesome! It was definitely a fun time of computing.
You can activate Win XP and Vista over the internet after installing Legacy Update so no need for telephone activation anymore! Here where i do live, there is something gone wrong with the telephone activation anyway. The audio is somehow corrupted etc so cannot hear the numbers for installation id. just BEEP comes right on some of the numbers :D
I had to use the phone service to activate Windows 7. It was automated And I was asked if I wanted to get it activated through text to my phone. I did it that way and it worked perfect. I activated Windows XP pro and I didn't even need any activation call at all. I think you need to call to activate Windows XP home.
@@MrModamanReviews Well i used XP Home and activated that over internet. Legacy Update does something that it starts working again. And Win 7 does also activate over internet just fine after applying few updates. It is a different story if your machine is not connected to internet which it should't basicly but i always use it just to install updates, activate and installing latest virus definitions. I guess we live in different country so the phone call system might be different too. It was also automated but i had no option for text message, only the automated where you insert your install id and then it gives you the code to write on the activation window.
I didn't know. I'm going to be setting up a segregated network for my retro network to protect the rest of it for when I put any of these machines online. Once that is done I will try the online activation. Cool they still have it going!
That is exactly how I do it, through my cell. It's easy.
@@TheRetroRecallThat's an good idea! I anyway have only like 5 older pcs. One running XP and the rest does run Vista. But someone like you who does alot of this stuff and owns many systems even older than mine, i understand that segregated network will come handy (especially machines from like dumbster etc when the history and possibility of having malware on them is really big risk for your other computers) . I mostly share network via another computer. I dont know if that is any safe but i dont use my machines online after updates etc so i guess it's not that risky.
I think you should put an ssd in it.
It would be cool to benchmark the system as is.... Then put the SSD, Winxp 64 and a better video card and get the new results. Then, for the final stage, tweak the ram timing / performance and the CPU - then take another benchmark.
Try upgrading to Windows 10
I'm sure the system would handle it. Especially if we put and SSD setup in it!
I had the same Asus mobo. That P5Q was a really good board. I recognized it instantly from the heatsinks, but the back panel and the firewire PCI slot addon made it sus from the beginning. Unfortunately this mobo was made too during the capacitor plague and mine got victim of leaky caps. It served as my first NAS at the end of its lifecycle(8Gb DDR2 1066MHz, Q9550).
That's awesome and yes it's a great board - fully feature packed! Thanks for letting me know about it being from the cap plague area - I'll keep an eye out!
@@TheRetroRecall Yeah pretty much anything from like 2003 to 2008 you have to keep an eye on. I have a 2006'ish dell boring box and its caps have yet to have issues as well so its not always a problem.
@@TheRetroRecall I would suggest more than 'keep an eye out' - just bite the bullet and recap the whole MB and PSU before anything starts to leak.
I really miss the WinXP days, but even moreso I love Win98SE. Even though it was not a 'secure' system and every user was automatically Admin, I loved the interface, and things seemed to Just Work(tm).
Plus, you could still boot to DOS mode and play your older DOS games that didn't suffer from excessive CPU speed.
My perfect xp pcs are a phenom II x4 965 at 4.25 ghz on a msi 970 gaming and radeon hd 4870x2 next to a xeon 5470 at 4.4 ghz on a asus striker 2 formula and a geforce 9800 gx2. Express Gate is a linux environment integrated in the motherboard. Maybe cool to take a look. Yes a gtx 700 series introduces too much of a driver overhead. That cpu will do good with 8800 gtx though.
Thanks for this, I definitely will! I love the features of this MB.
@@TheRetroRecall Yeah these asus boards are really decent. Will need some new paste on north and south bridge. North bridge can get a little toasty specially while overclocking. Xp is perfect for early retro gaming.
Ok, that's great to know. I'll make that part of the cleanup process, thanks!
@@TheRetroRecall If the heatsink does not easily come off, do it really slow and not use lots of force. Many of the asus boards have thermal pads on the north and south bridge instead of paste that has turned into concrete. I have seen people ripp the chips right off the board.
Another great tip, thanks. It's funny as I've seen these Thermal pads around and used but I always use the mx4 - I guess I am old school. Thanks again, very much appreciated!
It was a shit card for it's time though - today it'd be comparable to something like the new rtx 3050 6gb model.
Yeah. I'm wondering if a gtx 260 / 750 would make all the difference in this system, opening up even more possibilities.
@@TheRetroRecall gtx 260 is like 3-4 times faster while the 750ti is 7-8 times if not even more.
Appreciate it, thank you!!
this is fairly close to the stock specs on the work pc my dad brought home when they closed. it even came out around the same time. sure it didn't have a floppy, had 2 gigs of ram, and no surround sound or dedicated video card, but other than that it was pretty close to this. after i made some upgrades to it, it became capable of running crysis at a reasonable fps. even the heaven benchmark runs fairly well all things considered. yes it still works under xp believe it or not although i needed to specifically search for a version that would
Nice!!! It was always fun trying to squeeze as much performance as possible out of these machines.
You Should Install A SSD In That 2008 Windows XP Retro Gaming Desktop Computer
Yes that would definitely give it a speed boost.
My best XP rig was a Phenom 2 x4 with a gtx 760. Overkill really
Yes for sure.. 'the best' can be quite subjective.
Mostly a very nice machine, but I think the GPU does disqualify it a bit from being the "perfect" Windows XP box ;-)
A 9400 GT was really more of an Office card when it came out, as also indicated by using DDR2 instead of GDDR3 like all cards from the 9500 GT up to the 9800 GTX.
Nvidia Cards come with Windows XP drivers all the way up to the GTX 780 Ti or GTX 950.
Even getting something like a used GTX 750, which still comes with no need for PCIe power, and outperforms the 9400 GT by roughly 3000% would be an enormous upgrade for this machine, and can probably be done for around 10 to 15 of your favourite currency units.
Edit: Just realized that I randomly stumbled over your Video, and don't actually know if you are focused on Gaming like most Channels I follow. Maybe you are entirely happy with an Office classe GPU for your own needs, in which case kindly ignore my irrelevant ramblings ...
Edit2: Continued to watch the video, and you brought up the question yourself. So yeah: Definitely go for something along the lines of a GTX 750. I'm curious about the card you quickly showed, because a GTX 700 doesn't really exist, according to Nvidia / Wikipedia? Anything from a 710 to a 780 Ti, but no 700 ...
And the 780 Ti marks the absolute top-end of what an XP PC can achieve, but it's probably overkill, and you'll have to check if the PSU will be happy with that many PCIe-Cables being required. It didn't look like it to me at first glance ;-)
A GTX 950 with a single 6-Pin may be a good alternative, or maybe a 760. But honestly, the 750 is generally more than enough for anything that you really want to run on a Windows XP PC and a DVI-connected monitor. Anything that wants more GPU power probably loves a bigger screen as well.
Plus the cost of a used 750 doesn't turn the free PC into a money-sink immediately.
Haha indeed. I guess perfect is quite subjective and has generated quite a bit of discussion (which was the goal). I did mention the video card in the video for that reason being a weaker point. Heck, we could say put an SSD in there and more memory - it doesn't end haha. I do like the idea of a GPU upgrade as it would open the door to a wider range of compatibility without it being 'too much hardware' for the machine.
I have a custom built Windows XP PC with these specs:
MSI P35 Neo Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 2.00 GHz Processor
Transcend 5 GB of DDR2 RAM (2x2 GB and 2x512 MB)
Western Digital 500 GB SATA II HDD
nVidia GeForce 8600 GT 256 MB
Pioneer DWR-111D DVD-RW Drive
Chieftec GPS-350EB-101 A PSU
APEX PC-115 (Beige/Blue) Case
Now that's a great build! Thanks for sharing!
Or Running Windows XP PROFESSIONAL 64 bit SP2 in 2024
Yeah! I feel like some people are cautioning against 64bit version. Was this due to compatibility?
@@TheRetroRecall Is still a good operating system in 2024
You’re making me sorry I gave away my core 2 duo XP machine years ago! You probably know Nvidia stopped supporting 9xxx cards with new drivers some years ago. You might be able to find a driver for Windows 7 but Windows 10 is almost certainly off the table. I also suggest you stay with 32 bit operating systems as many I/O cards, especially parallel, are not 64 bit compatible.
For sure, 64 bit has always caused some sort of issues in the past with various hardware setups. The fun of retro systems!
GTX 960 970 980 with supported drivers and Core2 Extreme...best gaming for XP.
Thanks!
Weak GPU for the time. An 8800GT would be more appropriate for this hardware generation, and way more powerful. I could be wrong, but I think the GTX 700 would be overkill, since you're not likely to find many (if any) games that can run on XP and stress it out at all.
Agreed. I may have something in the middle - just need to go through the stash lol.
1:41 “Normally my core2 machines have vista or 7 on them depending on the cpu” there is literally no practical reason to run vista over 7 except nostalgia. 7 is compatible with all vista drivers and windows 7 even performs the same or better as vista in most if not all instances. With vista You’re just suffering with worse support for modern programs like browsers for no reason.
Nostalgia and testing :)
Leave the system as is, but change the graphics card to the one you showed in the video. By the way cool memories from seeing quake 4 or is it doom 3 ? , they very simular.
For sure and Doom3 :)
You Should Install A NVidia Card And A Sound Blaster Card
For sure.
Had some nasty tearing in Doom 3 with that card. Probably could set the options to vsync and fix that though.
Yes I noticed after and adjusted it. Either way a better card would make a world of difference
Wow, that's quite an XP machine! And very professionally assembled too. I would add the Soundblaster Live, but I wouldn't change the 9400 video card
Thanks! And yes, we'll built.
I’d look for a single slot 8800 GT or 9800 GT, would be a night and day difference between the 9400 GT in performance.
For sure.
Swap out that codegen powersupply, they tend to explode & kill anything that's on the 12v rail.
Will do.! I have 2 new PSUs sitting here I can use. I don't want anything to happen to this MB. Thank you!
I think the ivy bridge processors are the best windows xp machines
I think by that time I was running a later OS.
The "perfect* xp:
I7 3770k
GTX960
4GB of the fastesr possible
Ssd
It's funny how subjective 'perfect' is.
@@TheRetroRecall These are the fastest last "officially supported" Windows XP components
My retro PC is from 2008 too! It contains:
1. Core 2 Duo E8600 @2.80 GHz (OC to 3.00GHz)
2. Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L
3. 4 GB DDR2 @800 Mhz
4. 1TB Seagate HDD 7200 RPM
5. Nvidia GeForce GT 710 (Was put into it recently in 2023)
It was originally with Windows Vista... Upgraded to Windows 7 in 2013...
its pretty awesome! I always wanted either Core 2 Duo E8500 or E8600 since they came unlocked, realistically speaking was a LOT cheaper than Intel Xeon Processor X3380 (good luck with BIOS upgrading although your Motherboard can support Xeon E5450) or the Extreme 9770 (the power starved). my friend had the Q9650 which cost him his entire salary with 8800GTX!
710 is more efficient than 8600GT with 4X the ram. You just need an SSD with a newer "lite" version operating system(10 or 8.1) then you are good to go for another 5 years.
I haven't tried linux with graphics cards so I don't know about Nvidia compatibility
@@EslamNawito That's Cool to know! Thanks for your suggestion...
Awesome build!
@@TheRetroRecall Thank You!
No problem. I love seeing these systems still in action and seeing the community interact. This is exactly why I do this channel :)
Leave it as is, to enjoy those old retro games on... RA-2...
I like the build for sure.
if you adjust your FSB to 333 and core voltage to 1,3625V you can run your CPU at 3,33Ghz no problem with this board. I actually have one of these motherboards and pretty much have my OC PB with it getting a CPU to run over 150% of it´s stock speed and had a GTX260 and XP on it. However being Asus this specific board can be sooooo temperamental and flaky when it feels like it for no obvious reason but it is worse when you want FSBs above 1600mhz so I don´t think you would notice that many problems with 1333 but mine gives issues out of nowhere every now and then even on lower speeds. I used mine with a Raid 0 configuration and used it for playing music in my old garage before I moved out and it mostly worked. I suggest you try running it overclocked because the gain you get is absolutely insane and it probably even work with the stock cooler too. but I recommend one of the bigger anyway.
Thanks for this! I have had nothing but excellent experiences with ASUS boards which is awesome. I think this board will also support a Core2 Quad cpu which could possibly be a nice addition.
@@TheRetroRecall Yeah it will run pretty much any cpu you put in it. For me I have never owned a completely perfect Asus ever. At one point it was not even compatible with a cpu that was even stated on the box the board came in. In my 4790K system the system randomly freezes during boot and not every time but when it does it freezes for up to 2 minutes and then resumes again and it did this from the first day I got this brand new and still does it today
Good to know about the cpu. As for your experience, that's unfortunate. Did you say for any ASUS board you have owned that you have never had one work correctly?
@@TheRetroRecall yes. That is correct. None ever did work perfectly for me in the 30 years I been a heavy computer enthusiast. There always been either a hardware or software related issue with everything computer part related Asus.
But I got a 27” 144HZ Asus screen I been very happy with so this been good at least and if it breaks now most other brands would too after 10+ years of use.
i has one time xp amd fx 8320 8 gt ram nivdia gtx 660 ti 2gt
Nice build!
Damn, that's almost my old box, which was my daily driver for about a decade or so... The gfx card will hold you back, that's for sure, had a 9600GS and even that wasn't all that much. If you have anything better, it's worth it. You can get a bit more out of the 7300, 2.9-3.0 should be easy, anything over that might need a non stock cooler. The P5Q was a bit "touchy" as far as RAM goes, if you loaded all slots, but... XP is limited to 4GB so shouldn't be too hard hitting at least 3Ghz on a 2x2GB.
p.s. i still got it in a box (mobo/cpu/ram), even if i don't have a use for it, it just seemed rotten to throw it in the bin...
Thanks for the tips, and dig it out - get it going again haha! :)
@@TheRetroRecall Not much use and even less "real estate". Have 2 i5-2500's "office pcs" that i got for 40 bucks or so, one for XP and the other for W7. Great boxes because they can be BRUTALLY underclocked for testing purposes while having lots of RAM.
vorrei veramente vedere una versione di questo pc con windows vista prima e poi con windows 7 per paragonare le prestazioni dei giochi 2002 / 2013 (leggeri) per vedere quale os da Piu fps / soddisfazione... voglio dire 7 e buono ma xp non scherza. invece vista è... vista. ( cmunque la supporta una nvidia 750 ?
Interesting. I think it would support an Nvidia 750 as long as there are drivers. They are really good at supporting their hardware. I'll add your request to the list and maybe sometime I'll do the video :)
I ran window XP on a first gen core 2 E6300 1.6ghz with an 6600GT graphics card, happy days. IMO, win XP is at the moment the newest O/S which should be considered Retro.
Nice and agreed. Windows Vista for me is almost knocking on that door.
a core 2 duo could handle a 700 series card just fine. heck if that is a 750ti that would be perfect
I just checked and it is a 750 :)
@@TheRetroRecall that would be perfect
Send it to me lol I miss win xp
Lol, it's a pretty neat system.
CAN IT RUN CRYSIS?
😂😂😂 I'm waiting for this comment on every video lol!
I've got an old Medion brand XP Pro laptop running all my ham radio software, never misses a beat
That's awesome! I know quite a few businesses that still run systems win with XP pro and have been since 2004. They do so for legacy software and real mode serial compatibility.
What a great machine. This comes from a unique place in time when average PCs were finally fast enough to run Windows and anything else, with a satisfactory experience rather than struggling. Definitely worthy of preserving. The ONLY change I would make is clone both drives to SATA SSDs. Those drives have a lot of years behind them and will probably be the first things to fail. So swap in two SSDs and keep it in RAID for fun.
I was thinking the same thing!!! Thank you!
My first pc build was in the summer of 2007. Great times! Had a Core 2 Duo E6320, 2GB DDR2 667MHz, and an MSI 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI-E. Absolutely massive upgrade from my Pentium 3 1GHz machine I struggled with until then. Went straight from Win 2K to Vista and back to XP because Vista ran like crap 😂 solid mid range pc for only $650 back then. Now it would be like $1800...
Haha that's great and yes the prices have definitely changed! Thanks for watching
I need to pull it back out again to finish it, but my XP rig is insane overkill, being a Asus Sabertooth Z77 board, i7-3770K, 16GB DDR3-2133, 512GB SSD, and a EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti Classified 6GB for graphics (of which only 4GB of the 6GB vram is seen by windows xp) So yeah, it’s a ridiculous machine. Hoping one day to get it finished, but I’d like a more airflow-focused case for it that still has a DVD drive, I rebuilt it into a different one than what was shown in my prior videos, and thermals are poor, so I’ve held off for now until I make my mind up on what I want to do with it.
Now that sounds like a beast of a system!!