This is the most memorable subplot of the entire show! With one of the most satisfying conclusions! I've been looking for her outburst on youtube for years, and now it's finally here!
The contingency plan was updated in the mid-1960s... I think Cyrus Vance, then Deputy Secretary of Defense (later Secretary of State under Jimmy Carter) was involved in reviewing the plans.
As someone born and raised in Ohio, why do I have the distinct impression that, if the United States won the War of 1812-14, as we are told on this side of Lake Erie, Ohio lost the same war? I ask this in light of the fact that, had the war gone the other way, Ohio would now be the third-largest province in Canada and, consequently, Ohio wouldn’t necessarily be in its current mess. In retrospect, the only benefit to what happened during that war is the fact that, because of Ohio, the Union won the War of the Southern Rebellion 1861-65.
@@thomash.schwed3662 Yeah, I've never understood the perspective taught in American schools. Americans claim victory in the war of 1812? You guys invaded York (now Toronto) in a surprise attack and assured your populace that you would be greeted as liberators and that "Canadians" ( by which I mean colonists living there at the time, understand that Canada would not really exist for 50 years, this was really an attack on Great Britain, launched out of opportunity presented by the Napoleonic Wars in Europe) were crying out for freedom of British rule. Americans resoundingly get their ass kicked. Canada certainly doesn't become annexed and join the Union. The Brits burn down the white house. You guys almost have to hang Admiral Hull for cowardice when he surrenders Detroit because he's scared of Indigenous People. When the armistice is called the fighting is going on in New Orleans. I understand you won nearly every naval battle and got Maine out of the deal, but still, seems like a resounding loss to me.
@@blaketreleaven1993I actually agree. There's no way the United States can say that it "won" the War of 1812-14. Furthermore, it was post facto an even greater defeat for Ohio! Granted, Ohio has supplied seven presidents (second only to Virginia) as well as the generals (Grant and Sherman) without whom the Union would never have won the War of the Southern Rebellion fifty years later. Additionally, to be sure, Ohio contributed to the economic engine of the United States during the postwar period of 1945-80. But, really, what has Ohio received in return from Washington for those contributions? Since 1964, Ohio's influence on the Federal scene has diminished. For instance, in 1964, Ohio sent 24 members to the House of Representatives (23 districts and one at-large); today, Ohio has only fifteen congressional districts. Yet, the population is roughly the same. And, don't even get me started on the incoming vice president. He is, quite frankly, the sorriest excuse for someone from my home state I have ever seen. In the final analysis, Ohio would have been better off had the War of 1812-14 not turned out as good as it did for the United States. As I mentioned in my initial response, Ohio would now be the third-largest province in Canada (behind only Ontario and Quebec), with a large number of MP's. And, Ohio would now be reaping the benefits of that contribution in the form of single-payer health care and proportional representation, among other vital services desperately needed in the United States. And, an advantage for the United States, albeit perhaps the only advantage, would be no Vance as incoming vice president. In such a case, I would actually still be living there. I wouldn't have had to leave. As much as the United States gained by losing the War of 1812-14, yet, in retrospect, Ohio truly lost with the signing of the armistice!
@@thomash.schwed3662 I think your analysis has a great deal of merit. You seem to take a lot of pride in your home state and understand the negative impact losing Ohio would have had for the US. That's a great thing, because people taking real pride in their home, not jingoistic chest pounding, but genuine pride, is the first step in wanting to take responsibility for and make that place better. Still, hard to play the "What if" game with 200 years of history, and say anyone would be truly better or worse off today if America lost a pivitol territory to the Brits way back when. So let's just agree on the easy fact that Vance is a shoddy excuse for a human being, Ohian or otherwise. Thanks for injecting some intellectual stimulus into my day. Hope you have a good one.
He really doesn't. Not really. I am often told when I am in the States that I have a British accent...We don't all sound like guys from the U.P. in MI!
@@Sylvander1911 It's what used to be called a "mid-Atlantic" accent, which sixty-ish years ago was the accent affected by some upper class types (in both the US and Canada) and a fair few actors in order to sound posh. It's out of fashion now, but the ambassador probably picked it up from a professor or mentor of that era.
"These guys don't fool around with hunting!"
LOL! That is an understatement!
You dont mess with Kate when her blood is up! Great character played by a wonderful actress
Say what you will……..but the calligraphy is quite beautiful. 😊
This is the most memorable subplot of the entire show! With one of the most satisfying conclusions!
I've been looking for her outburst on youtube for years, and now it's finally here!
Commander Harper single-handedly stopping a war between Alberta and Montana.
This is one of my favorite sub plots lol
It is hilarious. The first time i watched this episode and the officer says "Would you like to be briefed?" i lost it.
One of the best minor characters of TWW. 🔥
The contingency plan was updated in the mid-1960s... I think Cyrus Vance, then Deputy Secretary of Defense (later Secretary of State under Jimmy Carter) was involved in reviewing the plans.
there is always War Plan Orange.
...unless we elect them to office.......
Harper for the Win!
She has to fix everything by herself, and then go protect people in WITSEC while dealing with her dysfunctional family. Kate/Mary deserves a break.
I understood that reference. 😁
And that was after she divorced Howard Stern
@@pcf9909 I have to admit I had forgotten she was in "Private Parts".
Don't mess with us Canadians, or it'll be 1814 all over again!! 😆 🍁
As someone born and raised in Ohio, why do I have the distinct impression that, if the United States won the War of 1812-14, as we are told on this side of Lake Erie, Ohio lost the same war? I ask this in light of the fact that, had the war gone the other way, Ohio would now be the third-largest province in Canada and, consequently, Ohio wouldn’t necessarily be in its current mess. In retrospect, the only benefit to what happened during that war is the fact that, because of Ohio, the Union won the War of the Southern Rebellion 1861-65.
@@thomash.schwed3662 Yeah, I've never understood the perspective taught in American schools. Americans claim victory in the war of 1812? You guys invaded York (now Toronto) in a surprise attack and assured your populace that you would be greeted as liberators and that "Canadians" ( by which I mean colonists living there at the time, understand that Canada would not really exist for 50 years, this was really an attack on Great Britain, launched out of opportunity presented by the Napoleonic Wars in Europe) were crying out for freedom of British rule. Americans resoundingly get their ass kicked. Canada certainly doesn't become annexed and join the Union. The Brits burn down the white house. You guys almost have to hang Admiral Hull for cowardice when he surrenders Detroit because he's scared of Indigenous People. When the armistice is called the fighting is going on in New Orleans. I understand you won nearly every naval battle and got Maine out of the deal, but still, seems like a resounding loss to me.
@@blaketreleaven1993I actually agree. There's no way the United States can say that it "won" the War of 1812-14. Furthermore, it was post facto an even greater defeat for Ohio! Granted, Ohio has supplied seven presidents (second only to Virginia) as well as the generals (Grant and Sherman) without whom the Union would never have won the War of the Southern Rebellion fifty years later. Additionally, to be sure, Ohio contributed to the economic engine of the United States during the postwar period of 1945-80.
But, really, what has Ohio received in return from Washington for those contributions? Since 1964, Ohio's influence on the Federal scene has diminished. For instance, in 1964, Ohio sent 24 members to the House of Representatives (23 districts and one at-large); today, Ohio has only fifteen congressional districts. Yet, the population is roughly the same. And, don't even get me started on the incoming vice president. He is, quite frankly, the sorriest excuse for someone from my home state I have ever seen.
In the final analysis, Ohio would have been better off had the War of 1812-14 not turned out as good as it did for the United States. As I mentioned in my initial response, Ohio would now be the third-largest province in Canada (behind only Ontario and Quebec), with a large number of MP's. And, Ohio would now be reaping the benefits of that contribution in the form of single-payer health care and proportional representation, among other vital services desperately needed in the United States. And, an advantage for the United States, albeit perhaps the only advantage, would be no Vance as incoming vice president. In such a case, I would actually still be living there. I wouldn't have had to leave. As much as the United States gained by losing the War of 1812-14, yet, in retrospect, Ohio truly lost with the signing of the armistice!
@@thomash.schwed3662 I think your analysis has a great deal of merit. You seem to take a lot of pride in your home state and understand the negative impact losing Ohio would have had for the US. That's a great thing, because people taking real pride in their home, not jingoistic chest pounding, but genuine pride, is the first step in wanting to take responsibility for and make that place better. Still, hard to play the "What if" game with 200 years of history, and say anyone would be truly better or worse off today if America lost a pivitol territory to the Brits way back when.
So let's just agree on the easy fact that Vance is a shoddy excuse for a human being, Ohian or otherwise. Thanks for injecting some intellectual stimulus into my day. Hope you have a good one.
@@blaketreleaven1993You're welcome. You can take the person out of Ohio, but you can't take Ohio out of the person. You have a good day as well.
Glinda working her magic…
I think you have the wrong actress.
The audio is out of synch
Why, exactly, does the Canadian Ambassador have a British accent?
He really doesn't. Not really. I am often told when I am in the States that I have a British accent...We don't all sound like guys from the U.P. in MI!
@jonap5740 Well it certainly wasn't a Canadian one
He sounded very American to me, but I'm English so the nuances in North American accents might be lost on me.
@@Sylvander1911 It's what used to be called a "mid-Atlantic" accent, which sixty-ish years ago was the accent affected by some upper class types (in both the US and Canada) and a fair few actors in order to sound posh. It's out of fashion now, but the ambassador probably picked it up from a professor or mentor of that era.
She's just so joyless.
@@heddalee 100+ comments on a channel showing clips of a TV show you clearly hate....either a troll or you need professional help...or both
She has a stressful job. How often did you see McGarry laugh?