When I come across something that seems to me to be a Universal Truth, like the one you posted above, it always pops up multiple times by different authors. Theres a ton, but here is one: “What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so.” ― Mark Twain
@@JustDoIt12131 Now that's a fanaticism. Our "reality" is an Idea/Opinion/Perception and those should be dynamic. So I think we need to remind our self's - "Shut up and listen what others has to say, maybe you learn something".
@@ulewsjulius What I said is a fanaticism? It's precisely the opposite. Becoming unconditional about a philosophy is the definition of fanaticism and I'm saying you should never become unconditional. Maybe you misread my comment.
@@JustDoIt12131 Nah, you misread my comment. What I meant is - if your opinion is unconditional you starting to smell like a fanatic. For instance - "My God is the only one, everyone else is wrong. My philosophy and the way of life is the only right way, all other philosophies are wrong. How do I know - I JUST KNOW". So, I think we agree on this and there is no dispute between us.
Ha! Ha! Well, he was already married when he was in college and as Jocko said, he was a more mature student(in his late twenties), so it doesn`t seem like he was trying to do what a lot of college kids are trying to do when they`re in college(get laid and have fun). His focus was on learning and getting good grades, not chasing girls(and he already had a girl, anyways). It`s the same for me when I go back to college as a mature student. I`m not going back to school to chase women. I`m going back to school to learn and get good grades, get a good education and invest in a bright future for myself.
@@KuntChitface I watched the first video on your "legendary shit" playlist and it really was legendary that I will check out the rest of the videos in that playlist.
By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest. ~Confucius Hard motherfuckers are hammered out by experience. That doesn’t make it right, better or superior it’s just how the world works.
3:51 - When he really starts answering the question:) For anyone wondering what exactly Stoicism is - "an ancient Greek school of philosophy founded at Athens by Zeno of Citium. The school taught that virtue, the highest good, is based on knowledge; the wise live in harmony with the divine Reason (also identified with Fate and Providence) that governs nature, and are indifferent to the vicissitudes of fortune and to pleasure and pain."
The teachings of Stoicism, and of Zen, are deeply similar to Jocko's mode of being. Does he "follow" or "practice" these philosophies? Who cares. He probably doesn't know all there is to know about them; he lives these philosophies, he came to similar conclusions through his own experience of life, without having to read up on them.
these universal truths can probably be found within ourselves, but learning from the ancients and other people saves years of our time in finding that truth
If you are interested in stoicism, read the meditations of Marcus Aurelius. Or the enchiridion or discourses of Epictetus. Or senecas letters. All ancient Roman stoic philosophers with timeless wisdom.
I love how well educated and developed you are as a person in the school of hard knocks. And yet you can now deeply appreciate the wisdom of the ancients and show a willingness to learn and yet show humility. Love your work mate.
In philosophy there are two types of people. Those that study the history of philosophy, and those that practice it. Jocko is the latter. Jocko is the kind of person academics teach about.
Know Thyself. You can memorize all the answers to the test but that doesn't mean you understand the lesson. The truth is out there and it' sup to you to seek it. I agree with you Jocko and believe that all the paths eventually lead to the same place. Thank you for your perspective.
Reading Meditations started my whole process. Probably I would still be a wow playing degenerate complaining about life, without Marcus Aurelius. Dispite of having read it, I'm doing all the mistakes, but reading it put me in the right mindset so I can learn from the mistakes I make.
It's a shame that modernity has caricatured Stoicism into some emotionless, cold, unsympathetic, and and detached way of not wanting to deal with life. People talk about "empowering" but miss stoicism's most helpful teaching of knowing your capabilities, knowing what is in your control, however small they may seem, is yours to take and enact your will upon, is unknowingly dismissed. Whether you're a veteran with PTSD, a rape victim, an orphan in a foster home in a third world country, with everything you've lost, don't lose your own agency. The youth is taught that things just happen to them wantonly, whether externally with the world around them or internally with one's mind and emotions, that until everything about the world is changed, only then can you do what you will, not realizing the great things that they can make happen, what they can do, however small and insignificant one may initially think they are at the moment. I think that is what's truly "empowering"
Looks like I need to make a small incision in my own lip to allow pouring the bowl effectively. This will take nutrients to repair. Soup has nutrients. GOOD.
The path we wanted to follow as kids, “I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." John Wayne The Shootist. Growing up in the "Old West" these were things that were ingrained in the culture itself.
Thank you Echo & Jocko i am presently listening to you both reading a Dance with a Highlander in Japanese prisoner or War Camp carrying on 12 Much love boys
This is some very sharp philosophical thinking here. It slashes your thoughts about the subject and challenges your current attitude towards things to put it right there on a knife edge ridge.
Jocko may not have subscribed to a particular philosophy or directly credit one for his growth but the people _he_ learned from by example almost certainly did. The self made man is a myth. Not a fan of Western education as he's described for all the reasons he's described: * Race to nowhere * Dogmatic learning and memorization * Too abstracted and sheltered from the real world Very few people can afford an education that dynamically pivots with our experiences, and the internet seems to be teaching us that access to information without guidance is as dangerous as raw ability guided by ignorance and pride. Not sure what the answer is or where we're headed but we seem to discussing more civilly and openly everyday. A lot of credit to Jocko for helping to make the conversations happen.
Ari Ugwu , great insight. It would seem that Jacko learned from the natural world vs. a civil society. We have the ability to learn from both and make the world better.
That shirt Echo is wearing should say "GET AFTER IT" you guys can make both, in bad ass military font, love the idea of the word GOOD being mirrored, I was just thinking exactly that regarding the shirt, looking in the mirror during a work out or where ever, and getting more inspiration and affirmation from the collective of ideas that he represents, NICE!.
If you ask a stoic if they are a stoic they will say no. Stoicism isn't a title you pick up and put on, it's a life style and a set of principles you follow. I would say Jocko is a warrior stoic. He understands the necessity of war but preaches peace and betterment to all that listen.
Stoicism improved my life the past few years where medication, counseling and other methods failed. Part of that is due to time and being ready in the moment to make those changes, but it truly stands out among all other forms "self-help" to me. Voluntary hardship as practiced by Cynics and others is a HUGE part of the lifestyle of elite warriors on and off the battlefield.
Jocko Willink went to college so that he could learn even more by applying it. As well as going through life itself, taught him lessons about ways to think, create, have and maintain relationships, explain things in ways which helped him communicate effectively. AWESOMELY 👍👍😎😀!!
I don't have a lot of faith in modern Academia, that said, the reason the ancients' "wisdom" stands the test of time is the truth it holds. I've always been a 'smartass' student, a non-complier, when I took history class, i was like "Why does Patton have this approach??" not just trivial dates of time... Jocko, banging the nail on the head right now. Good stuff, love this podcast, was behind a grey computer screen for 16 hours yesterday, not employed, but have potential. Fear tends to get conquered quickly by competence. get after it.
I think there are many inspirational quotes, examples in life that can help us to become our best version of ourselves. Make sure that you test your own convictions and principles. That will give you the credibility to lead.
Great interview here. Still, I think it's important to also consider the standpoint of distancing oneself from ''life'' from time to time to see the bigger picture. Being constantly on stage and learning like that is great but only to a certain point. I talk by experience when I say that I learned a lot more about the reality of things by being in the ''bird mode'' if I can say that by being engaged in life itself. But hey, we clearly can't learn everything for the lifespan we all have so let's try to figuring out each of us what can be the best life we can live and then going with it!
I once read that the purpose of life is to find purpose in life. I think its important to expose yourself to as much as possible that is out there. Also, we should not stop at some way of thinking without asking what else is out there for us to explore.
I happened across a video about memento mori only to deep dive and the realisation that what I was watching was aligning with my own experiences and lessons from life made me feel as if I wasn't alone in the universe.i feel if Jocko ever reads more about stoicism he will feel the same way.
Hahaha Jocko is on point. Truth is truth, it doesn't matter where it comes from and universal truths are applicable to life. On a side note, Echo wearing a Jocko shirt is the BEST 😹😹👌💯🔥
Marcus Aurelius was a military leader as well as statesman and shared Jocko's disdain for purely intellectual philosophers, the man needs to read Meditations.
Learning about Albert Camus and reading The Stranger my Senior year changed my life and dominoed into kinda derailing the plans I had after high school, I think for the better, but we’ll see
Love you keeping a blade handy. I like one clipped discretely in each front pocket. One kerambit, one tanto. Tools should be an extension of your body. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
I think everybody should follow their own philosophy and by do that is taking parts from other philosophies and adding it to your arsenal I really enjoyed this video salute to everybody with their self improvement journey to become productive people in society💯
He is right, a solid decade of living life as an adult, not being stubborn, trying new things, paying bills, making money, losing money, failing, succeeding, trying again, focusing on trying to be a good person, be it in the army, business, academia, labor, customer service, or love... it will bring you to a similar philosophical place if you are honest with yourself... hopefully that happens to most ppl by the time they are 30... Sadly it seems like most ppl don't even start that journey now until they are 30... that is also why it seems rather insane to me that society is listening to teenagers for advice now.
I don’t think it’s sad. I think it’s its own blessing to come upon an age where maturity is expected and realize how immature one is. The phrase better late than never really has value to it if a man discovers philosophy at 60 and has but a year left to live and lives that year to his best then ultimately it’s OK. Yes it would’ve been preferable in someways to have found philosophy when I was younger but I turn 30 in less than a year now, and I didn’t really start to understand philosophy until very recently. Would I be upset that my mind isn’t physiologically able to adhere to these messages, perhaps. But so long as I realize in the moment that I could be a better me then that’s all I really need. One of the more important things I’ve been applying is that we only ever have now whether we are children, grown adults or elderly it’s a message that’s been said many times by our greatest philosophers, and most superficial of popstar tweets. You can find it in the writings of Epictetus, Plato, Aurelius, nature, etc. etc. you can find it on those wooden planks that hang on basic white girl dorm room walls, fortune cookies, children’s cartoons, etc. But you never really find that message until you find it and you’ll never find it in that moment… suffice to say I’m rambling. But so long as one can find their truth in philosophy, and live by it for any amount of time, and that is time well spent at any time in their life.
I think a lot of the value you get from the thinkers of the past is both validation as well as acceleration of ideas that would otherwise take years of experience to learn if learned at all.
*_The greatest stoic philosopher may not have been physical warriors, but they were the greatest warriors of the mind who conquered that battlefield. I feel Jocko might relate with Epictetus the most. He was a Roman slave who transformed his life and eventually became one of the most respected people in his field_*
A podcast interview with Jocko Willink and Henry Rollins would be great to hear. Henry's interview on the Joe Rogan podcast was thoughtful, honest, forthright and value added. Joko's podcasts are the same. This is why both, together, would likely be a great interview or just a back and forth discussion on whatever topic they feel like discussing. Please consider making it happen.
Stoicism to me is intertwined with my masculinity. Men of virtue feel guilt and reprisal, the internal calls to duty, I find less to say on it as I age and that is the philosophy. I really don't know what's best or have some enlightened perspective for studying stoicism. You know what is right and should be doing, so do it, I don't want to hear it. That's it. There is no holy virtue or way to behave.
I find you apply certain of its principles in your book.maybe uncounsciously or naturally. In leadership strategies and tactics. I find similarities in your way of observing yourself from a birds eye view , to take a step back and leave a certain emotional state torward things. You persue truth and value honesty torward yourself and others.
Profound: “WHAT YOU SAY SHOULD STAND ON ITS OWN 2 FEET” Until we own the teaching ... it is just words ... the day we own it, it becomes a way of life !!!
The best and in ways worst thing that ever happened to me is the complete dissolving of ego,self importance, etc. Like i literally think "who am i to kill a fly? Who says I'm more important? What if there's something that's the same scale to me as i am to a fly,wouldn't i want that creature to be benevolent?" I'm too logical and compassionate (not saying I'm smart or great) but i almost look at most things TOO openly, TOO MUCH devils advocate where i can never be decisive because there's so many variables. It's hard to explain. It's all good because i try not to be selfish and i can see things through others perspectives and give everything a chance. I don't think I'm better or smarter than anyone. It's bad because nobody else thinks like that, i have almost no self esteem, I'm too reasonable when i should be assertive at times. I feel like i lost my personality (in some ways is good because i no longer have regrets from things done in anger,arrogance or cringe) but I'm not as funny or silly or unique. Idk it's hard to explain my whole existence in a way other people will understand in one paragraph
“It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows.”― Epictetus
When I come across something that seems to me to be a Universal Truth, like the one you posted above, it always pops up multiple times by different authors. Theres a ton, but here is one:
“What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so.”
― Mark Twain
That's a nice one!
thats a good one and so true. a word like this exist only to make people think for themself and act on it
I don't buy that.
Xavier Ryan timeless , universal values and words have always fascinated me greatly 😊
Are you a stoic?
Jocko: No (proceeds to give the most stoic answer ever)
Counterfeit comment alert.
🤣🤣
“Don't explain your philosophy. Embody it.” - Epictetus
Yes, but far important, embody it without becoming unconditional about it. Because as much sure you are about it's rightness, you could be wrong.
@@JustDoIt12131 Now that's a fanaticism. Our "reality" is an Idea/Opinion/Perception and those should be dynamic. So I think we need to remind our self's - "Shut up and listen what others has to say, maybe you learn something".
@@ulewsjulius What I said is a fanaticism? It's precisely the opposite. Becoming unconditional about a philosophy is the definition of fanaticism and I'm saying you should never become unconditional. Maybe you misread my comment.
@@JustDoIt12131 Nah, you misread my comment. What I meant is - if your opinion is unconditional you starting to smell like a fanatic. For instance - "My God is the only one, everyone else is wrong. My philosophy and the way of life is the only right way, all other philosophies are wrong. How do I know - I JUST KNOW". So, I think we agree on this and there is no dispute between us.
@@JustDoIt12131 The Dichotomy of Embodiment
I love the fact Jocko is pointing with a knife instead of a pen like how normal podcasters do.
You're wrong, that is a pen, you just haven't figure it out yet, it's also his natural conducting tool, he is a, conductor.
Just noticed!
👍
What kind of knife is this I want it!
@2.5in Bore Offset Yes, also lets say yes to nuking hurricanes :)
“Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.”
- Marcus Aurelius.
I feel like that was what Jacko was trying to say.
Stoic in house teacher me
lick or rice
Being One Obe can no be , but i'm no Honour tae the Brit-tish Empire Me
is thou i ended up here.
@@scottishrestorian1999 Shut your gob, you drunkard Scot.
That is an amazing quote
Jocko gave that guy the quote
This is the best book-club in disguise I have ever seen.
Lmao damn
Yes, it is. There's even a knife.
Word to your mother
"Do you follow stoicism?"
- "No."
Doesn't get much more stoic than that.
just like any intelligent person would answer "no" if asked "are you smart?" The more you know, the more you understand that you don't
But what about a bit of tisim
That's laconism.
Yeah, exactly. lol
Jocko doesn't follow stoicism, he leads it!
A podcast about Marcus Aurelius's Meditations would be great!
agree
As soon as I saw that this clip was uploaded, I was filled with hope that a Meditations review might be the reason it was.
And Sun Tzu`s The Art Of War would be great,too.
Amazing book
J R check out episode 23 is that what you’re looking for?
Accidental Stoic is still a Stoic. :)
Needs more up votes
That's what he ends up saying and explaining
Yep
Like Cato the younger
I really love these small clips from podcasts, hits a lot of points immediately
I reckon to chop the podcast partially do catch the attention by title and kind of focusing your mind on that specific subject, indeed
"You know what I was trying to do in college...? Get good grades".
I honestly thought that was going somewhere else.
Hahaha, same.
Shows were your mind is.
Ha! Ha! Well, he was already married when he was in college and as Jocko said, he was a more mature student(in his late twenties), so it doesn`t seem like he was trying to do what a lot of college kids are trying to do when they`re in college(get laid and have fun).
His focus was on learning and getting good grades, not chasing girls(and he already had a girl, anyways). It`s the same for me when I go back to college as a mature student. I`m not going back to school to chase women. I`m going back to school to learn and get good grades, get a good education and invest in a bright future for myself.
Simple. He had a goal to work hard.
@@KuntChitface I watched the first video on your "legendary shit" playlist and it really was legendary that I will check out the rest of the videos in that playlist.
Jocko maniacally waving around a knife & waxing philosophical wins the decade. Time to close up shop.
"that's it, internet, you have achieved your purpose"
"Waxing?" Bro, that's pretty cringe, bro.
I love how Echo has a picture of Jocko on his t-shirt
I wonder if Jocko finds it weird to look at someone wearing a shirt with his face on it.
I need one
"We'll do an episode on Marcus Aurelius at some point" - 150 episodes later: still no Marcus Aurelius.
How dare you question the wise way of jocko. Hahaha I agree tho I would love to see it.
I love that Jocko is just casually waving a knife around as he talks.
You don’t?
By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.
~Confucius
Hard motherfuckers are hammered out by experience. That doesn’t make it right, better or superior it’s just how the world works.
Eugh, reflection for the win
3:51 - When he really starts answering the question:)
For anyone wondering what exactly Stoicism is - "an ancient Greek school of philosophy founded at Athens by Zeno of Citium. The school taught that virtue, the highest good, is based on knowledge; the wise live in harmony with the divine Reason (also identified with Fate and Providence) that governs nature, and are indifferent to the vicissitudes of fortune and to pleasure and pain."
The teachings of Stoicism, and of Zen, are deeply similar to Jocko's mode of being. Does he "follow" or "practice" these philosophies? Who cares. He probably doesn't know all there is to know about them; he lives these philosophies, he came to similar conclusions through his own experience of life, without having to read up on them.
Best comment 👌💯🔥
The fact that he didn't study them but still lives them proves that had he been born first the philosophy students would have been studying him.
His life experience 💯💯
Yeah he just said that thanks for the summary
Skinny Pete you're welcome
I think Jocko is a descendent of Kratos, lol
Ray D. Nailer haha I see it 😂
To me he's kinda like the closest thing to a real life Sam Fisher. Former SEAL lifelong military, older, jaded etc.
How does that merit a "lol"?
Jocko seems so convincing in the points he's making whenever he holds a knife
these universal truths can probably be found within ourselves, but learning from the ancients and other people saves years of our time in finding that truth
Agreed
"you focus on the learning. GOOD. you still get your A." - Jocko Wilink
If you are interested in stoicism, read the meditations of Marcus Aurelius. Or the enchiridion or discourses of Epictetus. Or senecas letters. All ancient Roman stoic philosophers with timeless wisdom.
I love how well educated and developed you are as a person in the school of hard knocks. And yet you can now deeply appreciate the wisdom of the ancients and show a willingness to learn and yet show humility. Love your work mate.
Re-watching and I was reminded of this...your own testimony should be solid gold. Thank you both for the inspiration you bring.
Jocko love how you still dedicate so much time to these podcasts I think the more I get your mindset the better I overcome what’s in front of me
In philosophy there are two types of people. Those that study the history of philosophy, and those that practice it. Jocko is the latter. Jocko is the kind of person academics teach about.
The book "Siddhartha" helped me understand many things.
"Once you label me, you negate me" - Søren Kierkegaard
"Do you follow stoicism?"
- "No,
I lead."
Know Thyself. You can memorize all the answers to the test but that doesn't mean you understand the lesson. The truth is out there and it' sup to you to seek it. I agree with you Jocko and believe that all the paths eventually lead to the same place. Thank you for your perspective.
Reading Meditations started my whole process. Probably I would still be a wow playing degenerate complaining about life, without Marcus Aurelius.
Dispite of having read it, I'm doing all the mistakes, but reading it put me in the right mindset so I can learn from the mistakes I make.
DivingDave wow degenerates make millions nowadays... 😂
Alix Ch not the point
Alix Ch Doesn't change them from being degenerates
Get at it bro!
That link between lessons taught by war and ancient philosophy really built a bridge for me in my mind, thank you jocko!
I learn every time I listen to the Jocko podcast. Thank you Jocko and Echo. 🙏
Jocko, you’re the best. No nonsense. Tight and terse. Keep on, all respect.
Man I love these two men. I may not be as tough as them but they make me see what is possible so I try my best to follow in their foot steps.
Wow. I've seen all the podcasts, and so many of these clips, and I think this may be the best clip Echo's ever made
It's a shame that modernity has caricatured Stoicism into some emotionless, cold, unsympathetic, and and detached way of not wanting to deal with life.
People talk about "empowering" but miss stoicism's most helpful teaching of knowing your capabilities, knowing what is in your control, however small they may seem, is yours to take and enact your will upon, is unknowingly dismissed. Whether you're a veteran with PTSD, a rape victim, an orphan in a foster home in a third world country, with everything you've lost, don't lose your own agency. The youth is taught that things just happen to them wantonly, whether externally with the world around them or internally with one's mind and emotions, that until everything about the world is changed, only then can you do what you will, not realizing the great things that they can make happen, what they can do, however small and insignificant one may initially think they are at the moment. I think that is what's truly "empowering"
We want a Jocko Academy!
Fundamental truth is out there. How you learn it doesn’t matter. That you learn it is all that matters. Absolutely spot on as usual Jocko.
My favourite Jocko talk so far, thank you
I love how echo has a picture of jocko on his shirt
Jocko handed a knife to eat soup with "Thank you sir, I look forward to this challenge"
A knife to eat soup? GOOD!
Looks like I need to make a small incision in my own lip to allow pouring the bowl effectively. This will take nutrients to repair. Soup has nutrients. GOOD.
Roger, no factor.
Negative, thats what the soup said Jocko
The path we wanted to follow as kids,
“I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." John Wayne The Shootist.
Growing up in the "Old West" these were things that were ingrained in the culture itself.
Two introductions worth reading: the intro to maimonides' "guide for the perplexed. The intro to chaim luzzato's "path of the righteous."
Being disciplined, making wise decisions and choices is 100% well-worth the effort!
Memento Mori.
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You definitely walk the stoic path regardless. Grateful as always for the inspiration.
These podcasts have so much knowledge.Thank you.
you focus on the learnin, u still get your A!
I love this
Thank you Echo & Jocko i am presently listening to you both reading a Dance with a Highlander in Japanese prisoner or War Camp carrying on 12
Much love boys
Jocko Seneca the Younger is the man. "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity."
"universal truths". Well pointed.
This is some very sharp philosophical thinking here. It slashes your thoughts about the subject and challenges your current attitude towards things to put it right there on a knife edge ridge.
Jocko may not have subscribed to a particular philosophy or directly credit one for his growth but the people _he_ learned from by example almost certainly did. The self made man is a myth.
Not a fan of Western education as he's described for all the reasons he's described:
* Race to nowhere
* Dogmatic learning and memorization
* Too abstracted and sheltered from the real world
Very few people can afford an education that dynamically pivots with our experiences, and the internet seems to be teaching us that access to information without guidance is as dangerous as raw ability guided by ignorance and pride.
Not sure what the answer is or where we're headed but we seem to discussing more civilly and openly everyday. A lot of credit to Jocko for helping to make the conversations happen.
Ari Ugwu , great insight. It would seem that Jacko learned from the natural world vs. a civil society. We have the ability to learn from both and make the world better.
Been reading a lot of Ryan Holiday lately. I feel like it pairs very well with Jocko's writings. Highly recommend.
Thank you for this clip!
Really want that Marcus Aurelius episode Jocko!
2:50 - couldn't agree more! Nice one...
Some things in life you have to learn on your own, through experience 💪🏼
Man the way he talks with the knife is so badass. I’m gonna do that in my next job interview. I’ll for sure get the job 😂
“Well dad, I’m focused on the learning!” No one can pull a fast one on this man. Hahaha
That shirt Echo is wearing should say "GET AFTER IT" you guys can make both, in bad ass military font, love the idea of the word GOOD being mirrored, I was just thinking exactly that regarding the shirt, looking in the mirror during a work out or where ever, and getting more inspiration and affirmation from the collective of ideas that he represents, NICE!.
If you ask a stoic if they are a stoic they will say no. Stoicism isn't a title you pick up and put on, it's a life style and a set of principles you follow. I would say Jocko is a warrior stoic. He understands the necessity of war but preaches peace and betterment to all that listen.
Stoicism improved my life the past few years where medication, counseling and other methods failed. Part of that is due to time and being ready in the moment to make those changes, but it truly stands out among all other forms "self-help" to me. Voluntary hardship as practiced by Cynics and others is a HUGE part of the lifestyle of elite warriors on and off the battlefield.
"When you know The Way broadly, you we see it in everything."
Jocko Willink went to college so that he could learn even more by applying it. As well as going through life itself, taught him lessons about ways to think, create, have and maintain relationships, explain things in ways which helped him communicate effectively.
AWESOMELY 👍👍😎😀!!
I don't have a lot of faith in modern Academia, that said, the reason the ancients' "wisdom" stands the test of time is the truth it holds. I've always been a 'smartass' student, a non-complier, when I took history class, i was like "Why does Patton have this approach??" not just trivial dates of time... Jocko, banging the nail on the head right now. Good stuff, love this podcast, was behind a grey computer screen for 16 hours yesterday, not employed, but have potential.
Fear tends to get conquered quickly by competence. get after it.
I think there are many inspirational quotes, examples in life that can help us to become our best version of ourselves. Make sure that you test your own convictions and principles. That will give you the credibility to lead.
another great one....i really love pod cast...
Great interview here. Still, I think it's important to also consider the standpoint of distancing oneself from ''life'' from time to time to see the bigger picture. Being constantly on stage and learning like that is great but only to a certain point. I talk by experience when I say that I learned a lot more about the reality of things by being in the ''bird mode'' if I can say that by being engaged in life itself. But hey, we clearly can't learn everything for the lifespan we all have so let's try to figuring out each of us what can be the best life we can live and then going with it!
I once read that the purpose of life is to find purpose in life. I think its important to expose yourself to as much as possible that is out there. Also, we should not stop at some way of thinking without asking what else is out there for us to explore.
I happened across a video about memento mori only to deep dive and the realisation that what I was watching was aligning with my own experiences and lessons from life made me feel as if I wasn't alone in the universe.i feel if Jocko ever reads more about stoicism he will feel the same way.
Correcting yourself and changing the negative behaviors and thoughts you have will help tremendously IF you take action snd apply it.
Hahaha Jocko is on point. Truth is truth, it doesn't matter where it comes from and universal truths are applicable to life.
On a side note, Echo wearing a Jocko shirt is the BEST 😹😹👌💯🔥
Jocko almost certainly follows the same tenets as stoicism, or at least learned from people who are stoics
Marcus Aurelius was a military leader as well as statesman and shared Jocko's disdain for purely intellectual philosophers, the man needs to read Meditations.
my favorite image ever is jock holding a knife saying "how learned and well read i am". can someone please make this a meme?
Learning about Albert Camus and reading The Stranger my Senior year changed my life and dominoed into kinda derailing the plans I had after high school, I think for the better, but we’ll see
Good one echo. Outstanding
Love you keeping a blade handy. I like one clipped discretely in each front pocket. One kerambit, one tanto. Tools should be an extension of your body. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
I think everybody should follow their own philosophy and by do that is taking parts from other philosophies and adding it to your arsenal I really enjoyed this video salute to everybody with their self improvement journey to become productive people in society💯
1)When the stoics congregate on this chat....
2)Jocko is basically a stoic who has varied it slightly to produce a modern day philosophy unwittingly
He is right, a solid decade of living life as an adult, not being stubborn, trying new things, paying bills, making money, losing money, failing, succeeding, trying again, focusing on trying to be a good person, be it in the army, business, academia, labor, customer service, or love... it will bring you to a similar philosophical place if you are honest with yourself... hopefully that happens to most ppl by the time they are 30... Sadly it seems like most ppl don't even start that journey now until they are 30... that is also why it seems rather insane to me that society is listening to teenagers for advice now.
I don’t think it’s sad. I think it’s its own blessing to come upon an age where maturity is expected and realize how immature one is. The phrase better late than never really has value to it if a man discovers philosophy at 60 and has but a year left to live and lives that year to his best then ultimately it’s OK. Yes it would’ve been preferable in someways to have found philosophy when I was younger but I turn 30 in less than a year now, and I didn’t really start to understand philosophy until very recently. Would I be upset that my mind isn’t physiologically able to adhere to these messages, perhaps. But so long as I realize in the moment that I could be a better me then that’s all I really need.
One of the more important things I’ve been applying is that we only ever have now whether we are children, grown adults or elderly it’s a message that’s been said many times by our greatest philosophers, and most superficial of popstar tweets. You can find it in the writings of Epictetus, Plato, Aurelius, nature, etc. etc. you can find it on those wooden planks that hang on basic white girl dorm room walls, fortune cookies, children’s cartoons, etc.
But you never really find that message until you find it and you’ll never find it in that moment… suffice to say I’m rambling. But so long as one can find their truth in philosophy, and live by it for any amount of time, and that is time well spent at any time in their life.
I think a lot of the value you get from the thinkers of the past is both validation as well as acceleration of ideas that would otherwise take years of experience to learn if learned at all.
*_The greatest stoic philosopher may not have been physical warriors, but they were the greatest warriors of the mind who conquered that battlefield. I feel Jocko might relate with Epictetus the most. He was a Roman slave who transformed his life and eventually became one of the most respected people in his field_*
I’ve totally had the same thoughts about teaching history
I thoroughly enjoyed watching jocko wave his knife around while talking
A podcast interview with Jocko Willink and Henry Rollins would be great to hear. Henry's interview on the Joe Rogan podcast was thoughtful, honest, forthright and value added. Joko's podcasts are the same. This is why both, together, would likely be a great interview or just a back and forth discussion on whatever topic they feel like discussing. Please consider making it happen.
"6 mo ago I kinda considered myself a kid". Endearing.
Love how he is holding a knife the whole time
I agree with everything Jocko says when he has a knife in his hand.
I believe that's a an old teaching as well. All paths lead to enlightenment. You're proof of that
Stoicism to me is intertwined with my masculinity. Men of virtue feel guilt and reprisal, the internal calls to duty, I find less to say on it as I age and that is the philosophy. I really don't know what's best or have some enlightened perspective for studying stoicism. You know what is right and should be doing, so do it, I don't want to hear it. That's it. There is no holy virtue or way to behave.
"If there's nothing you can do, do nothing" - Me, the last 10 plus years
The ultimate podcast. A four way conversation about overcoming challenges between Jocko Willink, David Goggins, Wes Watson and Chuck Norris.
I find you apply certain of its principles in your book.maybe uncounsciously or naturally. In leadership strategies and tactics. I find similarities in your way of observing yourself from a birds eye view , to take a step back and leave a certain emotional state torward things. You persue truth and value honesty torward yourself and others.
Profound: “WHAT YOU SAY SHOULD STAND ON ITS OWN 2 FEET”
Until we own the teaching ... it is just words ... the day we own it, it becomes a way of life !!!
The best and in ways worst thing that ever happened to me is the complete dissolving of ego,self importance, etc. Like i literally think "who am i to kill a fly? Who says I'm more important? What if there's something that's the same scale to me as i am to a fly,wouldn't i want that creature to be benevolent?"
I'm too logical and compassionate (not saying I'm smart or great) but i almost look at most things TOO openly, TOO MUCH devils advocate where i can never be decisive because there's so many variables. It's hard to explain.
It's all good because i try not to be selfish and i can see things through others perspectives and give everything a chance. I don't think I'm better or smarter than anyone.
It's bad because nobody else thinks like that, i have almost no self esteem, I'm too reasonable when i should be assertive at times. I feel like i lost my personality (in some ways is good because i no longer have regrets from things done in anger,arrogance or cringe) but I'm not as funny or silly or unique.
Idk it's hard to explain my whole existence in a way other people will understand in one paragraph
Enjoyed that