Do You Follow Stoicism? - Jocko Willink

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    Excerpt from JOCKOPODCAST 49

КОМЕНТАРІ • 460

  • @williamdiaz2645
    @williamdiaz2645 4 роки тому +791

    “It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows.”― Epictetus

    • @xavierryan4602
      @xavierryan4602 4 роки тому +28

      When I come across something that seems to me to be a Universal Truth, like the one you posted above, it always pops up multiple times by different authors. Theres a ton, but here is one:
      “What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so.”
      ― Mark Twain

    • @stopspammingmesrsly
      @stopspammingmesrsly 4 роки тому +4

      That's a nice one!

    • @richardsrensen4219
      @richardsrensen4219 4 роки тому +3

      thats a good one and so true. a word like this exist only to make people think for themself and act on it

    • @GreyRock100
      @GreyRock100 4 роки тому

      I don't buy that.

    • @Saber23
      @Saber23 4 роки тому +1

      Xavier Ryan timeless , universal values and words have always fascinated me greatly 😊

  • @iceberg227
    @iceberg227 3 роки тому +332

    Are you a stoic?
    Jocko: No (proceeds to give the most stoic answer ever)

  • @ulewsjulius
    @ulewsjulius 4 роки тому +492

    “Don't explain your philosophy. Embody it.” - Epictetus

    • @JustDoIt12131
      @JustDoIt12131 4 роки тому +5

      Yes, but far important, embody it without becoming unconditional about it. Because as much sure you are about it's rightness, you could be wrong.

    • @ulewsjulius
      @ulewsjulius 4 роки тому +1

      ​@@JustDoIt12131 Now that's a fanaticism. Our "reality" is an Idea/Opinion/Perception and those should be dynamic. So I think we need to remind our self's - "Shut up and listen what others has to say, maybe you learn something".

    • @JustDoIt12131
      @JustDoIt12131 4 роки тому +1

      @@ulewsjulius What I said is a fanaticism? It's precisely the opposite. Becoming unconditional about a philosophy is the definition of fanaticism and I'm saying you should never become unconditional. Maybe you misread my comment.

    • @ulewsjulius
      @ulewsjulius 4 роки тому +5

      @@JustDoIt12131 Nah, you misread my comment. What I meant is - if your opinion is unconditional you starting to smell like a fanatic. For instance - "My God is the only one, everyone else is wrong. My philosophy and the way of life is the only right way, all other philosophies are wrong. How do I know - I JUST KNOW". So, I think we agree on this and there is no dispute between us.

    • @danielday3374
      @danielday3374 4 роки тому

      @@JustDoIt12131 The Dichotomy of Embodiment

  • @IowanLawman
    @IowanLawman 4 роки тому +1420

    I love the fact Jocko is pointing with a knife instead of a pen like how normal podcasters do.

  • @licandres01
    @licandres01 4 роки тому +702

    “Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.”
    - Marcus Aurelius.
    I feel like that was what Jacko was trying to say.

  • @brandonstanley9125
    @brandonstanley9125 4 роки тому +443

    This is the best book-club in disguise I have ever seen.

    • @FarP321
      @FarP321 4 роки тому +3

      Lmao damn

    • @kaylag5043
      @kaylag5043 4 роки тому +6

      Yes, it is. There's even a knife.

    • @johncain1624
      @johncain1624 3 роки тому

      Word to your mother

  • @shawarmageddonit
    @shawarmageddonit 4 роки тому +616

    "Do you follow stoicism?"
    - "No."
    Doesn't get much more stoic than that.

    • @germanrud9904
      @germanrud9904 4 роки тому +37

      just like any intelligent person would answer "no" if asked "are you smart?" The more you know, the more you understand that you don't

    • @supersteve2040
      @supersteve2040 4 роки тому +2

      But what about a bit of tisim

    • @vandal1523
      @vandal1523 4 роки тому +4

      That's laconism.

    • @HelderP1337
      @HelderP1337 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, exactly. lol

    • @libertarious
      @libertarious 4 роки тому +16

      Jocko doesn't follow stoicism, he leads it!

  • @rvanderstaak3328
    @rvanderstaak3328 4 роки тому +558

    A podcast about Marcus Aurelius's Meditations would be great!

    • @Piexus_
      @Piexus_ 4 роки тому +2

      agree

    • @billyjack42
      @billyjack42 4 роки тому +4

      As soon as I saw that this clip was uploaded, I was filled with hope that a Meditations review might be the reason it was.

    • @JR-ju3kj
      @JR-ju3kj 4 роки тому +9

      And Sun Tzu`s The Art Of War would be great,too.

    • @jtlegionnaire6310
      @jtlegionnaire6310 4 роки тому +5

      Amazing book

    • @ThePatches72
      @ThePatches72 4 роки тому +3

      J R check out episode 23 is that what you’re looking for?

  • @patricklemire9278
    @patricklemire9278 4 роки тому +177

    Accidental Stoic is still a Stoic. :)

  • @kazmix2321
    @kazmix2321 4 роки тому +281

    I really love these small clips from podcasts, hits a lot of points immediately

    • @UranusAnalyst
      @UranusAnalyst 4 роки тому

      I reckon to chop the podcast partially do catch the attention by title and kind of focusing your mind on that specific subject, indeed

  • @docbaztardyt2342
    @docbaztardyt2342 4 роки тому +132

    "You know what I was trying to do in college...? Get good grades".
    I honestly thought that was going somewhere else.

    • @liteknight
      @liteknight 4 роки тому +2

      Hahaha, same.

    • @KuntChitface
      @KuntChitface 4 роки тому +2

      Shows were your mind is.

    • @JR-ju3kj
      @JR-ju3kj 4 роки тому +11

      Ha! Ha! Well, he was already married when he was in college and as Jocko said, he was a more mature student(in his late twenties), so it doesn`t seem like he was trying to do what a lot of college kids are trying to do when they`re in college(get laid and have fun).
      His focus was on learning and getting good grades, not chasing girls(and he already had a girl, anyways). It`s the same for me when I go back to college as a mature student. I`m not going back to school to chase women. I`m going back to school to learn and get good grades, get a good education and invest in a bright future for myself.

    • @swesleyc7
      @swesleyc7 4 роки тому

      Simple. He had a goal to work hard.

    • @bunderbah
      @bunderbah 4 роки тому

      @@KuntChitface I watched the first video on your "legendary shit" playlist and it really was legendary that I will check out the rest of the videos in that playlist.

  • @grizzlywidow
    @grizzlywidow 4 роки тому +166

    Jocko maniacally waving around a knife & waxing philosophical wins the decade. Time to close up shop.

  • @danielreardon6453
    @danielreardon6453 4 роки тому +61

    I love how Echo has a picture of Jocko on his t-shirt

    • @kaylag5043
      @kaylag5043 4 роки тому +9

      I wonder if Jocko finds it weird to look at someone wearing a shirt with his face on it.

    • @mykelmellen2378
      @mykelmellen2378 4 роки тому +1

      I need one

  • @DaviMourao
    @DaviMourao 4 роки тому +178

    "We'll do an episode on Marcus Aurelius at some point" - 150 episodes later: still no Marcus Aurelius.

    • @tysonvh1393
      @tysonvh1393 4 роки тому +4

      How dare you question the wise way of jocko. Hahaha I agree tho I would love to see it.

  • @kaylag5043
    @kaylag5043 4 роки тому +25

    I love that Jocko is just casually waving a knife around as he talks.

  • @reborn2152
    @reborn2152 4 роки тому +36

    By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.
    ~Confucius
    Hard motherfuckers are hammered out by experience. That doesn’t make it right, better or superior it’s just how the world works.

  • @johnmichaeladelman
    @johnmichaeladelman 4 роки тому +13

    3:51 - When he really starts answering the question:)
    For anyone wondering what exactly Stoicism is - "an ancient Greek school of philosophy founded at Athens by Zeno of Citium. The school taught that virtue, the highest good, is based on knowledge; the wise live in harmony with the divine Reason (also identified with Fate and Providence) that governs nature, and are indifferent to the vicissitudes of fortune and to pleasure and pain."

  • @Mas0o0n
    @Mas0o0n 4 роки тому +125

    The teachings of Stoicism, and of Zen, are deeply similar to Jocko's mode of being. Does he "follow" or "practice" these philosophies? Who cares. He probably doesn't know all there is to know about them; he lives these philosophies, he came to similar conclusions through his own experience of life, without having to read up on them.

    • @ParadymShiftVegan
      @ParadymShiftVegan 3 роки тому +1

      Best comment 👌💯🔥

    • @PrivatePrivate-do2on
      @PrivatePrivate-do2on 3 роки тому +2

      The fact that he didn't study them but still lives them proves that had he been born first the philosophy students would have been studying him.

    • @tytsam72
      @tytsam72 3 роки тому

      His life experience 💯💯

    • @skinnypete8928
      @skinnypete8928 3 роки тому

      Yeah he just said that thanks for the summary

    • @Mas0o0n
      @Mas0o0n 3 роки тому

      Skinny Pete you're welcome

  • @rayreyes364
    @rayreyes364 4 роки тому +178

    I think Jocko is a descendent of Kratos, lol

    • @nickdrumheller7293
      @nickdrumheller7293 4 роки тому +1

      Ray D. Nailer haha I see it 😂

    • @summocommentaction3273
      @summocommentaction3273 4 роки тому +7

      To me he's kinda like the closest thing to a real life Sam Fisher. Former SEAL lifelong military, older, jaded etc.

    • @shawarmageddonit
      @shawarmageddonit 4 роки тому +3

      How does that merit a "lol"?

  • @Under_Growth
    @Under_Growth 4 роки тому +10

    Jocko seems so convincing in the points he's making whenever he holds a knife

  • @HumansOfVR
    @HumansOfVR 4 роки тому +31

    these universal truths can probably be found within ourselves, but learning from the ancients and other people saves years of our time in finding that truth

    • @ariban
      @ariban 4 роки тому

      Agreed

  • @tommy11sixorozco9
    @tommy11sixorozco9 4 роки тому +43

    "you focus on the learning. GOOD. you still get your A." - Jocko Wilink

  • @michaelmcqueeferton6911
    @michaelmcqueeferton6911 4 роки тому +33

    If you are interested in stoicism, read the meditations of Marcus Aurelius. Or the enchiridion or discourses of Epictetus. Or senecas letters. All ancient Roman stoic philosophers with timeless wisdom.

  • @jarrodloidl3762
    @jarrodloidl3762 4 роки тому +7

    I love how well educated and developed you are as a person in the school of hard knocks. And yet you can now deeply appreciate the wisdom of the ancients and show a willingness to learn and yet show humility. Love your work mate.

  • @bludog4657
    @bludog4657 Рік тому

    Re-watching and I was reminded of this...your own testimony should be solid gold. Thank you both for the inspiration you bring.

  • @Tp-wf1gm
    @Tp-wf1gm 3 роки тому

    Jocko love how you still dedicate so much time to these podcasts I think the more I get your mindset the better I overcome what’s in front of me

  • @AngryOscillator
    @AngryOscillator 4 роки тому +58

    In philosophy there are two types of people. Those that study the history of philosophy, and those that practice it. Jocko is the latter. Jocko is the kind of person academics teach about.

  • @grantkeller8024
    @grantkeller8024 4 роки тому +9

    The book "Siddhartha" helped me understand many things.

  • @Firerose101
    @Firerose101 3 роки тому +4

    "Once you label me, you negate me" - Søren Kierkegaard

  • @bmxtwins5685
    @bmxtwins5685 3 роки тому +8

    "Do you follow stoicism?"
    - "No,
    I lead."

  • @TheWordofYAGA
    @TheWordofYAGA 4 роки тому +12

    Know Thyself. You can memorize all the answers to the test but that doesn't mean you understand the lesson. The truth is out there and it' sup to you to seek it. I agree with you Jocko and believe that all the paths eventually lead to the same place. Thank you for your perspective.

  • @divingdave2945
    @divingdave2945 4 роки тому +106

    Reading Meditations started my whole process. Probably I would still be a wow playing degenerate complaining about life, without Marcus Aurelius.
    Dispite of having read it, I'm doing all the mistakes, but reading it put me in the right mindset so I can learn from the mistakes I make.

  • @Benjamenho
    @Benjamenho 3 роки тому

    That link between lessons taught by war and ancient philosophy really built a bridge for me in my mind, thank you jocko!

  • @patrickoduinn4787
    @patrickoduinn4787 4 роки тому +1

    I learn every time I listen to the Jocko podcast. Thank you Jocko and Echo. 🙏

  • @lyndao7356
    @lyndao7356 Рік тому

    Jocko, you’re the best. No nonsense. Tight and terse. Keep on, all respect.

  • @glitzandgratitude1170
    @glitzandgratitude1170 2 роки тому

    Man I love these two men. I may not be as tough as them but they make me see what is possible so I try my best to follow in their foot steps.

  • @connorsmith4518
    @connorsmith4518 4 роки тому

    Wow. I've seen all the podcasts, and so many of these clips, and I think this may be the best clip Echo's ever made

  • @HaIsKuL
    @HaIsKuL 4 роки тому +27

    It's a shame that modernity has caricatured Stoicism into some emotionless, cold, unsympathetic, and and detached way of not wanting to deal with life.
    People talk about "empowering" but miss stoicism's most helpful teaching of knowing your capabilities, knowing what is in your control, however small they may seem, is yours to take and enact your will upon, is unknowingly dismissed. Whether you're a veteran with PTSD, a rape victim, an orphan in a foster home in a third world country, with everything you've lost, don't lose your own agency. The youth is taught that things just happen to them wantonly, whether externally with the world around them or internally with one's mind and emotions, that until everything about the world is changed, only then can you do what you will, not realizing the great things that they can make happen, what they can do, however small and insignificant one may initially think they are at the moment. I think that is what's truly "empowering"

  • @thomasreiter2367
    @thomasreiter2367 4 роки тому +9

    We want a Jocko Academy!

  • @mark11145
    @mark11145 2 роки тому

    Fundamental truth is out there. How you learn it doesn’t matter. That you learn it is all that matters. Absolutely spot on as usual Jocko.

  • @danielmccarthy2445
    @danielmccarthy2445 4 роки тому

    My favourite Jocko talk so far, thank you

  • @elravel7770
    @elravel7770 3 роки тому +1

    I love how echo has a picture of jocko on his shirt

  • @ciaagentsextillerson3857
    @ciaagentsextillerson3857 4 роки тому +45

    Jocko handed a knife to eat soup with "Thank you sir, I look forward to this challenge"

    • @spade2you
      @spade2you 4 роки тому +8

      A knife to eat soup? GOOD!

    • @eisenwerks6388
      @eisenwerks6388 4 роки тому +2

      Looks like I need to make a small incision in my own lip to allow pouring the bowl effectively. This will take nutrients to repair. Soup has nutrients. GOOD.

    • @Irishcream216
      @Irishcream216 4 роки тому

      Roger, no factor.

    • @hellodarkness5644
      @hellodarkness5644 4 роки тому

      Negative, thats what the soup said Jocko

  • @45obiwan
    @45obiwan 4 роки тому +5

    The path we wanted to follow as kids,
    “I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." John Wayne The Shootist.
    Growing up in the "Old West" these were things that were ingrained in the culture itself.

  • @user-pf4px2cn9e
    @user-pf4px2cn9e 3 роки тому +1

    Two introductions worth reading: the intro to maimonides' "guide for the perplexed. The intro to chaim luzzato's "path of the righteous."

  • @jenniferdana5665
    @jenniferdana5665 4 роки тому +2

    Being disciplined, making wise decisions and choices is 100% well-worth the effort!

  • @existentialhangover1124
    @existentialhangover1124 4 роки тому +32

    Memento Mori.

  • @InteGritti
    @InteGritti 4 роки тому +1

    You definitely walk the stoic path regardless. Grateful as always for the inspiration.

  • @zachryanband5241
    @zachryanband5241 3 роки тому

    These podcasts have so much knowledge.Thank you.

  • @berkoyt6397
    @berkoyt6397 4 роки тому +2

    you focus on the learnin, u still get your A!
    I love this

  • @scottishrestorian1999
    @scottishrestorian1999 4 роки тому

    Thank you Echo & Jocko i am presently listening to you both reading a Dance with a Highlander in Japanese prisoner or War Camp carrying on 12
    Much love boys

  • @0xHannibal
    @0xHannibal 4 роки тому +1

    Jocko Seneca the Younger is the man. "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity."

  • @ptmr
    @ptmr 4 роки тому +5

    "universal truths". Well pointed.

  • @viktormedina4631
    @viktormedina4631 4 роки тому

    This is some very sharp philosophical thinking here. It slashes your thoughts about the subject and challenges your current attitude towards things to put it right there on a knife edge ridge.

  • @AriUgwu
    @AriUgwu 4 роки тому +43

    Jocko may not have subscribed to a particular philosophy or directly credit one for his growth but the people _he_ learned from by example almost certainly did. The self made man is a myth.
    Not a fan of Western education as he's described for all the reasons he's described:
    * Race to nowhere
    * Dogmatic learning and memorization
    * Too abstracted and sheltered from the real world
    Very few people can afford an education that dynamically pivots with our experiences, and the internet seems to be teaching us that access to information without guidance is as dangerous as raw ability guided by ignorance and pride.
    Not sure what the answer is or where we're headed but we seem to discussing more civilly and openly everyday. A lot of credit to Jocko for helping to make the conversations happen.

    • @schertz8
      @schertz8 4 роки тому +2

      Ari Ugwu , great insight. It would seem that Jacko learned from the natural world vs. a civil society. We have the ability to learn from both and make the world better.

  • @BenSemisch
    @BenSemisch 4 роки тому +3

    Been reading a lot of Ryan Holiday lately. I feel like it pairs very well with Jocko's writings. Highly recommend.

  • @MaidenIron
    @MaidenIron 4 роки тому +5

    Thank you for this clip!

  • @Varlwyll
    @Varlwyll 4 роки тому +7

    Really want that Marcus Aurelius episode Jocko!

  • @tad2936
    @tad2936 2 роки тому +1

    2:50 - couldn't agree more! Nice one...

  • @freemind2025
    @freemind2025 4 роки тому

    Some things in life you have to learn on your own, through experience 💪🏼

  • @maybe3xcesive742
    @maybe3xcesive742 4 роки тому +2

    Man the way he talks with the knife is so badass. I’m gonna do that in my next job interview. I’ll for sure get the job 😂

  • @GrowStronger25
    @GrowStronger25 4 роки тому +3

    “Well dad, I’m focused on the learning!” No one can pull a fast one on this man. Hahaha

  • @ciaagentsextillerson3857
    @ciaagentsextillerson3857 4 роки тому

    That shirt Echo is wearing should say "GET AFTER IT" you guys can make both, in bad ass military font, love the idea of the word GOOD being mirrored, I was just thinking exactly that regarding the shirt, looking in the mirror during a work out or where ever, and getting more inspiration and affirmation from the collective of ideas that he represents, NICE!.

  • @Morbid_God
    @Morbid_God Рік тому +1

    If you ask a stoic if they are a stoic they will say no. Stoicism isn't a title you pick up and put on, it's a life style and a set of principles you follow. I would say Jocko is a warrior stoic. He understands the necessity of war but preaches peace and betterment to all that listen.

  • @1John3.8
    @1John3.8 2 роки тому

    Stoicism improved my life the past few years where medication, counseling and other methods failed. Part of that is due to time and being ready in the moment to make those changes, but it truly stands out among all other forms "self-help" to me. Voluntary hardship as practiced by Cynics and others is a HUGE part of the lifestyle of elite warriors on and off the battlefield.

  • @nickmason4651
    @nickmason4651 4 роки тому +1

    "When you know The Way broadly, you we see it in everything."

  • @jenniferdana5665
    @jenniferdana5665 4 роки тому

    Jocko Willink went to college so that he could learn even more by applying it. As well as going through life itself, taught him lessons about ways to think, create, have and maintain relationships, explain things in ways which helped him communicate effectively.
    AWESOMELY 👍👍😎😀!!

  • @Usertrappedindatabase
    @Usertrappedindatabase 4 роки тому +1

    I don't have a lot of faith in modern Academia, that said, the reason the ancients' "wisdom" stands the test of time is the truth it holds. I've always been a 'smartass' student, a non-complier, when I took history class, i was like "Why does Patton have this approach??" not just trivial dates of time... Jocko, banging the nail on the head right now. Good stuff, love this podcast, was behind a grey computer screen for 16 hours yesterday, not employed, but have potential.
    Fear tends to get conquered quickly by competence. get after it.

  • @hethinkshesfunny
    @hethinkshesfunny 4 роки тому +2

    I think there are many inspirational quotes, examples in life that can help us to become our best version of ourselves. Make sure that you test your own convictions and principles. That will give you the credibility to lead.

  • @christianbonilla7256
    @christianbonilla7256 4 роки тому

    another great one....i really love pod cast...

  • @natureswhisper1397
    @natureswhisper1397 4 роки тому

    Great interview here. Still, I think it's important to also consider the standpoint of distancing oneself from ''life'' from time to time to see the bigger picture. Being constantly on stage and learning like that is great but only to a certain point. I talk by experience when I say that I learned a lot more about the reality of things by being in the ''bird mode'' if I can say that by being engaged in life itself. But hey, we clearly can't learn everything for the lifespan we all have so let's try to figuring out each of us what can be the best life we can live and then going with it!

  • @franciscodiaz3028
    @franciscodiaz3028 4 роки тому

    I once read that the purpose of life is to find purpose in life. I think its important to expose yourself to as much as possible that is out there. Also, we should not stop at some way of thinking without asking what else is out there for us to explore.

  • @Damien-qk7in
    @Damien-qk7in Рік тому

    I happened across a video about memento mori only to deep dive and the realisation that what I was watching was aligning with my own experiences and lessons from life made me feel as if I wasn't alone in the universe.i feel if Jocko ever reads more about stoicism he will feel the same way.

  • @jenniferdana5665
    @jenniferdana5665 4 роки тому

    Correcting yourself and changing the negative behaviors and thoughts you have will help tremendously IF you take action snd apply it.

  • @ParadymShiftVegan
    @ParadymShiftVegan 3 роки тому +1

    Hahaha Jocko is on point. Truth is truth, it doesn't matter where it comes from and universal truths are applicable to life.
    On a side note, Echo wearing a Jocko shirt is the BEST 😹😹👌💯🔥

  • @theneonpython
    @theneonpython 4 роки тому +44

    Jocko almost certainly follows the same tenets as stoicism, or at least learned from people who are stoics

  • @user-jt6sc4sj8w
    @user-jt6sc4sj8w 4 роки тому +6

    Marcus Aurelius was a military leader as well as statesman and shared Jocko's disdain for purely intellectual philosophers, the man needs to read Meditations.

  • @robmershant9491
    @robmershant9491 4 роки тому +8

    my favorite image ever is jock holding a knife saying "how learned and well read i am". can someone please make this a meme?

  • @teleportsaroundyou4629
    @teleportsaroundyou4629 4 роки тому +1

    Learning about Albert Camus and reading The Stranger my Senior year changed my life and dominoed into kinda derailing the plans I had after high school, I think for the better, but we’ll see

  • @mandolore_the_glorious7049
    @mandolore_the_glorious7049 4 роки тому +1

    Good one echo. Outstanding

  • @handy1arnwald947
    @handy1arnwald947 4 роки тому +1

    Love you keeping a blade handy. I like one clipped discretely in each front pocket. One kerambit, one tanto. Tools should be an extension of your body. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.

  • @Sosablocc
    @Sosablocc Рік тому

    I think everybody should follow their own philosophy and by do that is taking parts from other philosophies and adding it to your arsenal I really enjoyed this video salute to everybody with their self improvement journey to become productive people in society💯

  • @iteor7320
    @iteor7320 3 роки тому +2

    1)When the stoics congregate on this chat....
    2)Jocko is basically a stoic who has varied it slightly to produce a modern day philosophy unwittingly

  • @kylen4701
    @kylen4701 4 роки тому +3

    He is right, a solid decade of living life as an adult, not being stubborn, trying new things, paying bills, making money, losing money, failing, succeeding, trying again, focusing on trying to be a good person, be it in the army, business, academia, labor, customer service, or love... it will bring you to a similar philosophical place if you are honest with yourself... hopefully that happens to most ppl by the time they are 30... Sadly it seems like most ppl don't even start that journey now until they are 30... that is also why it seems rather insane to me that society is listening to teenagers for advice now.

    • @mw9688
      @mw9688 10 місяців тому

      I don’t think it’s sad. I think it’s its own blessing to come upon an age where maturity is expected and realize how immature one is. The phrase better late than never really has value to it if a man discovers philosophy at 60 and has but a year left to live and lives that year to his best then ultimately it’s OK. Yes it would’ve been preferable in someways to have found philosophy when I was younger but I turn 30 in less than a year now, and I didn’t really start to understand philosophy until very recently. Would I be upset that my mind isn’t physiologically able to adhere to these messages, perhaps. But so long as I realize in the moment that I could be a better me then that’s all I really need.
      One of the more important things I’ve been applying is that we only ever have now whether we are children, grown adults or elderly it’s a message that’s been said many times by our greatest philosophers, and most superficial of popstar tweets. You can find it in the writings of Epictetus, Plato, Aurelius, nature, etc. etc. you can find it on those wooden planks that hang on basic white girl dorm room walls, fortune cookies, children’s cartoons, etc.
      But you never really find that message until you find it and you’ll never find it in that moment… suffice to say I’m rambling. But so long as one can find their truth in philosophy, and live by it for any amount of time, and that is time well spent at any time in their life.

  • @tubbytoad
    @tubbytoad 4 роки тому

    I think a lot of the value you get from the thinkers of the past is both validation as well as acceleration of ideas that would otherwise take years of experience to learn if learned at all.

  • @HumansOfVR
    @HumansOfVR 4 роки тому +5

    *_The greatest stoic philosopher may not have been physical warriors, but they were the greatest warriors of the mind who conquered that battlefield. I feel Jocko might relate with Epictetus the most. He was a Roman slave who transformed his life and eventually became one of the most respected people in his field_*

  • @FireGuy90
    @FireGuy90 4 роки тому

    I’ve totally had the same thoughts about teaching history

  • @kaiyote4717
    @kaiyote4717 4 роки тому +1

    I thoroughly enjoyed watching jocko wave his knife around while talking

  • @RedondoBeach2
    @RedondoBeach2 3 роки тому

    A podcast interview with Jocko Willink and Henry Rollins would be great to hear. Henry's interview on the Joe Rogan podcast was thoughtful, honest, forthright and value added. Joko's podcasts are the same. This is why both, together, would likely be a great interview or just a back and forth discussion on whatever topic they feel like discussing. Please consider making it happen.

  • @playswithsquirrels3799
    @playswithsquirrels3799 4 роки тому +5

    "6 mo ago I kinda considered myself a kid". Endearing.

  • @zvikisegal2845
    @zvikisegal2845 4 роки тому +2

    Love how he is holding a knife the whole time

  • @333crt
    @333crt 4 роки тому +10

    I agree with everything Jocko says when he has a knife in his hand.

  • @Eddy-dn1jx
    @Eddy-dn1jx 4 роки тому

    I believe that's a an old teaching as well. All paths lead to enlightenment. You're proof of that

  • @gradualpull2171
    @gradualpull2171 4 роки тому +9

    Stoicism to me is intertwined with my masculinity. Men of virtue feel guilt and reprisal, the internal calls to duty, I find less to say on it as I age and that is the philosophy. I really don't know what's best or have some enlightened perspective for studying stoicism. You know what is right and should be doing, so do it, I don't want to hear it. That's it. There is no holy virtue or way to behave.

  • @NoelWesley
    @NoelWesley 4 роки тому +5

    "If there's nothing you can do, do nothing" - Me, the last 10 plus years

  • @adudewatchingyoutubevids
    @adudewatchingyoutubevids 4 роки тому +3

    The ultimate podcast. A four way conversation about overcoming challenges between Jocko Willink, David Goggins, Wes Watson and Chuck Norris.

  • @fred7705
    @fred7705 2 роки тому

    I find you apply certain of its principles in your book.maybe uncounsciously or naturally. In leadership strategies and tactics. I find similarities in your way of observing yourself from a birds eye view , to take a step back and leave a certain emotional state torward things. You persue truth and value honesty torward yourself and others.

  • @jeanmichelpecorella8278
    @jeanmichelpecorella8278 4 роки тому +1

    Profound: “WHAT YOU SAY SHOULD STAND ON ITS OWN 2 FEET”
    Until we own the teaching ... it is just words ... the day we own it, it becomes a way of life !!!

  • @tobe1207
    @tobe1207 2 роки тому

    The best and in ways worst thing that ever happened to me is the complete dissolving of ego,self importance, etc. Like i literally think "who am i to kill a fly? Who says I'm more important? What if there's something that's the same scale to me as i am to a fly,wouldn't i want that creature to be benevolent?"
    I'm too logical and compassionate (not saying I'm smart or great) but i almost look at most things TOO openly, TOO MUCH devils advocate where i can never be decisive because there's so many variables. It's hard to explain.
    It's all good because i try not to be selfish and i can see things through others perspectives and give everything a chance. I don't think I'm better or smarter than anyone.
    It's bad because nobody else thinks like that, i have almost no self esteem, I'm too reasonable when i should be assertive at times. I feel like i lost my personality (in some ways is good because i no longer have regrets from things done in anger,arrogance or cringe) but I'm not as funny or silly or unique.
    Idk it's hard to explain my whole existence in a way other people will understand in one paragraph

  • @stopspammingmesrsly
    @stopspammingmesrsly 4 роки тому

    Enjoyed that