I have an etwow/Uscooters sport and with folding handlebars portability can’t be beaten, however it has 8 inch solid tyres, no indicators or IP rating, and a single 350 watt 500 peak motor so it’s noisy on rough surfaces despite having suspension and can’t be used in any wet conditions and of course grip with solid tyres isn’t as good anyway. The Apollo go literally solves all of these problems be it not quite as portable due to fixed handlebars but they are still narrow anyway. Glad you pointed out all these good things in your review Tim! I hope the stem light gets added to future versions of the Apollo air and city! I do however think the white plastic cover of the rear lights mean the indicators at the back aren’t very visible in the day so surely transparent plastic would improve this, we are seeing lots of scooters with handlebar indicators that are protected on the ends (vmax, Segway, niu etc) and think Apollo should implement this. But overall such a great product and I agree I like the consistent design language and aesthetics, I mean you can tell if a scooter is an Apollo. It’s so competitive now in the commuter scooter segment, choosing one isn’t easy!
Awesome @e-scooterguy, you nailed it. I literally have a UScooter hung on the wall of my apartment. I use it all the time for short hops in the city...light folds up so small...love it. But it does have shortcomings as you outlined. So does the GO replace the UScooter? I'm not sure it does...I have a City and love it...the only thing is..that in the dark and wet the GO is far superior to both...I"m so torn :( What would you do?
@ is the Go better than the city in the wet with smaller thinner tyres? Lighting definitely the Go wins so i definitely think next city iteration and air have to have this stem light bar. In the dry for short journeys on smooth cycle ways if you have them a uscooter is unbeatable, however in a country with lots of wet and changing weather, bad surfaces as a whole the Go is a better option. If you commute and use a scooter a lot I’m not sure my uscooter is better than a GO. Though there is a big price discrepancy having said that to consider. I think the Go caters for short/medium commuting and those who want just one scooter that does most things well. If you are able to own more than one then perhaps a uscooter and a city is a great option! do you think the GO is better than the vmax2 pro mind Tim??
Awesome reply...thank you...I think you're bang on...I think the GO is a better fit for me than the VMax 2 ...I like the suspension on the GO but the range on the VMax (GT) is longer....both excellent quality...probably the GO for me...or City...if the lighting was like the GO on the city then that's probably the one for me ;)
Already 500 miles on my GO! If you are regularly going to put the scooter in the trunk/hatch of a car. Do NOT use the stem locking feature. Minimal multi direction forces will take a massive toll on that small pin on the latch. You will need to replace the whole handlebar assembly when it breaks. The rubber strap on mine has broken and am awaiting a replacement. Neither of these negitives will really impact the riding of the scooter. This is what is making Apollo the best scooter brand. When they miss, they miss small. Other scooter brands overtly miss on large elements of riding that reduce usability, quality, control, safety etc... Apollo, keep up the good work!
Great review Tim as always - The Go really packs a punch, made for the commuter that wants a little extra power to get over hills or for a heavier rider! Glad it blew you away ☺
Tim: When you deploy the drum brake, the regen brakes also engage. So, no need to press both. Just got mine yesterday. If I see you around town, I will most certainly say hello. 👋
I’m a pretty big guy myself (220 lbs) would you prefer the go or city pro? I like to ride casually on weekends with the family around the city or on trails
Awesome question @Londonbridge978, I need to do a proper comparison :) Probably go for the City to get some more range...I like the GO for commutes :) Hope that helps :) Cheers Tim
Hi Tim. Just found your channel, and I was so impressed by your amazing, down to earth, reality driven reviews and other video's. I'm over in the UK where e scooters are illegal! But they're doing research! (for six years WTF). I think the GO looks great, I'm also a bigger guy bit lighter and shorter than yourself but do consider my weight a factor. I liked one of your old videos on "are e scooters illegal"? And I've cut and copied the link and sent it to our ministry of transport.... you said everything I also believe. Whilst I like the look of the GO I'm also looking at the City Pro, dual motors, more oomph and range. Would you do a comparison sometime? The problem we have over the water in the UK is the illegality of the scooters, the idiot politicians say an e scooter's nearest like is a car, and therefor you can't register or insure an e scooter as it isn't a car... I know stop the insanity. The problem we have is that if your caught riding the police are "encouraged" to warn you, and from that point you have to walk home or take your scoot on public transport! If it's a "jobsworth copper" then they can fine you hundreds of pounds/Dollars, six points on your car license (12 points is you banned!) and confiscate your scooter and crush it, or if they're feeling kind impound it and you have to pay hundreds to get it released! So every time I ride I have an element of discomfort regarding our police. Sorry for the long winded reply, but I am really impressed by your approach and reviews and logic... great stuff. I'm hooked and subscribed! Have a great Christmas. Years ago (I'm 65) I was at sea and spent a great deal of time in your beautiful BC and also on Vancouver Island. Great memories of a lovely place and lovely people.
Lovely to hear from you @PhilKay-vp6qi, I was originally from England...lived there until 3rd form...but I must admit I am confused by your politicians. If I fly into heathrow and get a taxi into the city I can rent an electric scooter...but if live in London and buy an electric scooter I can't ride it on the public streets...seems absurd to me ...love the idea of a comparison video...I think it needs to happen...perhaps early in the New Year :) Personally I think I'll stick with my City...but the GO is amazing at night...depends on the range and hills in your part of the world...and if you do decide on one do let me know and I hope the plod don't nick it from you :) Cheers
I noticed in this video that you didn't mention the wait requirements or a top so however you put it in here I know your big guy like me but what I'm saying is is it a limit of 400 to 800 lb US or what
It's a great scooter, but you'll have to decide if it's the right fit for you! If you're in Victoria let me know ...could pop by and try it out :) @Westcoast_Kyle
If you reside in a hilly region, this scooter might not be the most suitable choice, considering its difficulty on that particular hill? If you had to estimate the slope measurement, what would you guess it to be?
Awesome question @JulianKovalsky, it's very steep...I need to have some text on the screen that shows the length and slope angle...I'll endeavour to pop out today and measure it and let you know but will add the info to future videos as I do the "Hill of Death" test regularly :) Thanks for asking :)
@@TimsElectric Thanks for measuring but 12 is not very steep where I live :) Another thing I don't see in reviews, is how easy is it to walk each scooter when you're not riding it. If I have to push it up a hill or take it into a store, are all scooters easy to walk?
totally understand...in that case I'd look at the City...it eats the steeper hills up :) I have no issues walking it...I think there might even be a walking setting...I'll take a peek next time I'm on it :)
Awesome question @anjilu7057, I think they're different scooters for different riders. But I also think I need to do a comparison....but the VX4 that I have has a massive battery so the range is amazing. Similar in power...similar in ride...but if you need to fold it up and carry it then the Apollo. I find the GO more zippy if that makes sense...also the ergonomics are just a bit better on the GO. For example the indicator...I'm never sure if they're on with the VMAX but with the GO I can hear it...and it shuts off after a few secs. Bottom line I think I need to do a video...I'll ask Eric and see if he can help with one soonest :)
Tim has been kind enough to let me try out both for an extended period of time, as I was asking myself the same question. I've putting together my thoughts on this and I'm sure Time will want to do a follow-up head-to-head comparison of these two top commuters.
My only worry as a big guy myself is how does it handle hills. If this can climb at least a 7% grade for about 25m, then I'm sold. Other than that, solid looking product
Awesome question @asrecords8451, A 7% grade hill is a hill with a slope of 4.0° and a ratio of 1 in 14.3. This means that for every 100 feet of horizontal distance on the hill, the vertical rise is 7 feet...I really don't see this being an issue for myself. I've been all over the city...it does slow down on longer steeper hills ...but it did get up the hill of death...just ...so I think if you're similar size to me then it should be fine...otherwise look at the City.....I have a decision to make now...do I keep it or stay with my City...I'm not sure...the lighting is extraordinary :)
My 7 reasons not to own an Apollo Go. 1) No disc brakes so hence a poor stopping distance in emergencies. 2) extremely narrow handlebars. 3) Underpowered for price 4) No back sweep or upsweep on handlebars so bad ergonomics for riding. 5) Tyre size too small 6) Poor quality suspension for the price 7) No room for handlebar accessories
I think it's good to have different opinions, everyone has their own needs, and what might not work for you might work perfectly for someone else. For your needs....what are you thinking would check all the boxes? @mnc303
Thanks for your feedback here! Keep in mind for every con, there's a pro ;-) This scooter it made for a portable commuter, hence having wide handlebars for example doesn't work..! Not worth going to Ferrari and saying don't buy this car because it doesn't fit your golf clubs!
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11:38 That dog was surprised, but excited to see you, it looks like he thought you were going to walk him
I think you're right....happy doggy :) @chronometer9931, Cheers
he was so cute :) :) @chronometer9931, happy dogo :)...odd I thought I replied to you...but maybe you'll see two replies lol :)
I have the go and its an amazing scooter...very light but fast and strong and sturdy...climbs up hills with ease...i highly recommend!
Totally agree @onlygod5667
I have an etwow/Uscooters sport and with folding handlebars portability can’t be beaten, however it has 8 inch solid tyres, no indicators or IP rating, and a single 350 watt 500 peak motor so it’s noisy on rough surfaces despite having suspension and can’t be used in any wet conditions and of course grip with solid tyres isn’t as good anyway. The Apollo go literally solves all of these problems be it not quite as portable due to fixed handlebars but they are still narrow anyway. Glad you pointed out all these good things in your review Tim! I hope the stem light gets added to future versions of the Apollo air and city! I do however think the white plastic cover of the rear lights mean the indicators at the back aren’t very visible in the day so surely transparent plastic would improve this, we are seeing lots of scooters with handlebar indicators that are protected on the ends (vmax, Segway, niu etc) and think Apollo should implement this. But overall such a great product and I agree I like the consistent design language and aesthetics, I mean you can tell if a scooter is an Apollo. It’s so competitive now in the commuter scooter segment, choosing one isn’t easy!
Awesome @e-scooterguy, you nailed it.
I literally have a UScooter hung on the wall of my apartment.
I use it all the time for short hops in the city...light folds up so small...love it.
But it does have shortcomings as you outlined. So does the GO replace the UScooter?
I'm not sure it does...I have a City and love it...the only thing is..that in the dark and wet the GO is far superior to both...I"m so torn :(
What would you do?
@ is the Go better than the city in the wet with smaller thinner tyres? Lighting definitely the Go wins so i definitely think next city iteration and air have to have this stem light bar. In the dry for short journeys on smooth cycle ways if you have them a uscooter is unbeatable, however in a country with lots of wet and changing weather, bad surfaces as a whole the Go is a better option. If you commute and use a scooter a lot I’m not sure my uscooter is better than a GO. Though there is a big price discrepancy having said that to consider. I think the Go caters for short/medium commuting and those who want just one scooter that does most things well. If you are able to own more than one then perhaps a uscooter and a city is a great option! do you think the GO is better than the vmax2 pro mind Tim??
Awesome reply...thank you...I think you're bang on...I think the GO is a better fit for me than the VMax 2 ...I like the suspension on the GO but the range on the VMax (GT) is longer....both excellent quality...probably the GO for me...or City...if the lighting was like the GO on the city then that's probably the one for me ;)
I have a Dualtron Togo and it’s amazing
I haven't tried the Togo @owenbarkin, I'll check it out :)
Already 500 miles on my GO!
If you are regularly going to put the scooter in the trunk/hatch of a car. Do NOT use the stem locking feature. Minimal multi direction forces will take a massive toll on that small pin on the latch. You will need to replace the whole handlebar assembly when it breaks.
The rubber strap on mine has broken and am awaiting a replacement.
Neither of these negitives will really impact the riding of the scooter.
This is what is making Apollo the best scooter brand. When they miss, they miss small. Other scooter brands overtly miss on large elements of riding that reduce usability, quality, control, safety etc...
Apollo, keep up the good work!
Thanks for the detailed feedback. That's very helpful. Awesome @AustinF516!
Great review Tim as always - The Go really packs a punch, made for the commuter that wants a little extra power to get over hills or for a heavier rider! Glad it blew you away ☺
I think it's definitely a great option for those who need a little more power! Cheers @chrismhrey
So awesome 👏
Glad you liked it! @EbikesBros
@ glad you sharing these with us 💪
🔥🔥🔥Glad you enjoyed our best seller Tim! Thanks for the fantastic review!
It's awesome! Thanks for making such a great product. @ApolloScooters
Tim: When you deploy the drum brake, the regen brakes also engage.
So, no need to press both.
Just got mine yesterday.
If I see you around town, I will most certainly say hello. 👋
Awesome @JimLaddie, thanks for letting me know :) :) Happy trails and hope to see you on them soon :) Cheers
Concern about the screws coming lose in the hub wheel
Is that a thing? I've never seen or experienced anything like that before @oreharleyman5, let me know :)
I’m a pretty big guy myself (220 lbs) would you prefer the go or city pro? I like to ride casually on weekends with the family around the city or on trails
Awesome question @Londonbridge978, I need to do a proper comparison :)
Probably go for the City to get some more range...I like the GO for commutes :)
Hope that helps :)
Cheers
Tim
Hi Tim. Just found your channel, and I was so impressed by your amazing, down to earth, reality driven reviews and other video's. I'm over in the UK where e scooters are illegal! But they're doing research! (for six years WTF). I think the GO looks great, I'm also a bigger guy bit lighter and shorter than yourself but do consider my weight a factor. I liked one of your old videos on "are e scooters illegal"? And I've cut and copied the link and sent it to our ministry of transport.... you said everything I also believe. Whilst I like the look of the GO I'm also looking at the City Pro, dual motors, more oomph and range. Would you do a comparison sometime? The problem we have over the water in the UK is the illegality of the scooters, the idiot politicians say an e scooter's nearest like is a car, and therefor you can't register or insure an e scooter as it isn't a car... I know stop the insanity. The problem we have is that if your caught riding the police are "encouraged" to warn you, and from that point you have to walk home or take your scoot on public transport! If it's a "jobsworth copper" then they can fine you hundreds of pounds/Dollars, six points on your car license (12 points is you banned!) and confiscate your scooter and crush it, or if they're feeling kind impound it and you have to pay hundreds to get it released! So every time I ride I have an element of discomfort regarding our police. Sorry for the long winded reply, but I am really impressed by your approach and reviews and logic... great stuff. I'm hooked and subscribed! Have a great Christmas. Years ago (I'm 65) I was at sea and spent a great deal of time in your beautiful BC and also on Vancouver Island. Great memories of a lovely place and lovely people.
Lovely to hear from you @PhilKay-vp6qi, I was originally from England...lived there until 3rd form...but I must admit I am confused by your politicians. If I fly into heathrow and get a taxi into the city I can rent an electric scooter...but if live in London and buy an electric scooter I can't ride it on the public streets...seems absurd to me ...love the idea of a comparison video...I think it needs to happen...perhaps early in the New Year :) Personally I think I'll stick with my City...but the GO is amazing at night...depends on the range and hills in your part of the world...and if you do decide on one do let me know and I hope the plod don't nick it from you :) Cheers
Cheers Tim. I left early too but wound up in New Zealand. Looking. Fwd to next Video.
@@TimsElectric
Cheers and thank you :)
Lets gooo 💪🏻
Awesome @eloipecquet, thank you...sorry if I mispronounced your name in the review :) Cheers
@@TimsElectric Haha no worries, My name is flexible mate
I've been called worse :)
I noticed in this video that you didn't mention the wait requirements or a top so however you put it in here I know your big guy like me but what I'm saying is is it a limit of 400 to 800 lb US or what
Awesome that you noticed....my bad :) @mrfireclaw, 265lbs is the weight limit :)
@TimsElectric yeah but with a backpack I it is about 450 all together so it's pointless for me to get something like that I'm still looking
I understand....let me know what you decide :)
Ohh man, Tim being looking at this scooter still haven't pulled the trigger yet.😊
It's a great scooter, but you'll have to decide if it's the right fit for you! If you're in Victoria let me know ...could pop by and try it out :) @Westcoast_Kyle
@TimsElectric ok yeah still have to try your City..lol😉
If you reside in a hilly region, this scooter might not be the most suitable choice, considering its difficulty on that particular hill? If you had to estimate the slope measurement, what would you guess it to be?
Awesome question @JulianKovalsky, it's very steep...I need to have some text on the screen that shows the length and slope angle...I'll endeavour to pop out today and measure it and let you know but will add the info to future videos as I do the "Hill of Death" test regularly :) Thanks for asking :)
Eric and I measured it today...12 degrees! Very steep :)Appox 150 feet
@@TimsElectric Thanks for measuring but 12 is not very steep where I live :)
Another thing I don't see in reviews, is how easy is it to walk each scooter when you're not riding it. If I have to push it up a hill or take it into a store, are all scooters easy to walk?
totally understand...in that case I'd look at the City...it eats the steeper hills up :)
I have no issues walking it...I think there might even be a walking setting...I'll take a peek next time I'm on it :)
That scooter 🛴 looks impressive,I am currently riding the ausom gallop.i get stares when I ride it because of it's great features and beefyness.😊
It's great to hear you're enjoying your scooter! 😉I haven't heard of the Gallop....where did you buy it?
That light bar on the front looks great! I ride an Inmotion RS and whilst that machine is sensational, the lighting is terrible.
I think it's definitely a game-changer for riding at night! Do you like the Inmotion otherwise? @bencoelho3
Do you prefer the comfort on the go or the vmax vx4? Since they are priced around the same, im debating which one to get.
Awesome question @anjilu7057, I think they're different scooters for different riders.
But I also think I need to do a comparison....but the VX4 that I have has a massive battery so the range is amazing.
Similar in power...similar in ride...but if you need to fold it up and carry it then the Apollo.
I find the GO more zippy if that makes sense...also the ergonomics are just a bit better on the GO.
For example the indicator...I'm never sure if they're on with the VMAX but with the GO I can hear it...and it shuts off after a few secs.
Bottom line I think I need to do a video...I'll ask Eric and see if he can help with one soonest :)
Tim has been kind enough to let me try out both for an extended period of time, as I was asking myself the same question. I've putting together my thoughts on this and I'm sure Time will want to do a follow-up head-to-head comparison of these two top commuters.
looking forward to it Eric
My only worry as a big guy myself is how does it handle hills. If this can climb at least a 7% grade for about 25m, then I'm sold. Other than that, solid looking product
Awesome question @asrecords8451, A 7% grade hill is a hill with a slope of 4.0° and a ratio of 1 in 14.3. This means that for every 100 feet of horizontal distance on the hill, the vertical rise is 7 feet...I really don't see this being an issue for myself. I've been all over the city...it does slow down on longer steeper hills ...but it did get up the hill of death...just ...so I think if you're similar size to me then it should be fine...otherwise look at the City.....I have a decision to make now...do I keep it or stay with my City...I'm not sure...the lighting is extraordinary :)
@@TimsElectriclmk if you ended up keeping the city or go
My 7 reasons not to own an Apollo Go.
1) No disc brakes so hence a poor stopping distance in emergencies.
2) extremely narrow handlebars.
3) Underpowered for price
4) No back sweep or upsweep on handlebars so bad ergonomics for riding.
5) Tyre size too small
6) Poor quality suspension for the price
7) No room for handlebar accessories
I think it's good to have different opinions, everyone has their own needs, and what might not work for you might work perfectly for someone else. For your needs....what are you thinking would check all the boxes? @mnc303
Thanks for your feedback here! Keep in mind for every con, there's a pro ;-) This scooter it made for a portable commuter, hence having wide handlebars for example doesn't work..! Not worth going to Ferrari and saying don't buy this car because it doesn't fit your golf clubs!
yes indeed..get the EV for your needs :)
Nami Klima for me.@@TimsElectric
omg ...what a beast :)