Will Gåte FINALLY Get Norway Jury Points? | Eurovision 2024
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2024
- Norway has a track record for choosing songs that become fan favourites and often reach the Top 10 in the Eurovision Song Contest grand final. But their recent entries have been much more popular with the public than the juries. Will veteran folk-metal group Gåte be the ones to break that pattern?
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I think Gåte has chances to even win Eurovision this year. Not, like, big chances, but definitely a chance, especially if they are able to translate the performance over to Eurovision and the singers vocals stay as good as they were in the national final! The televote would be giving this major points, while it would receive probably the biggest jury score Norway has had in a while!
I get that feeling too! Would love to see it!
HELLPP the level of delusion
@@reislayahelp. Someone shut this one up🤩
Unfortunately juries don't usually like any songs which have non-mainstream/classic elements (other than classic), and non-mainstream singing styles especially tend to get at best mediocre points. Just look at Spain last year.
Or to put it another way: juries suck and wouldn't notice quality if it bit them in the face. Ulveham absolutely should get top jury points, but probably won't.
Gåte is just amazing, fantastic power and energy. The voice from Mother Earth! ❤️ Beautiful Gunnhild - this is what Eurovision (the world) needs right now! 12 points 🥇
the way i would have died if they almost sent keiino instead of this masterpiece...
Well... as I'm typing, Gåte has yet to confirm their Eurovision participation, so if they were to boycott due to Israel, it is not unlikely that NRK would replace them with KEiiNO.
@@kennet7837L NRK honestly
@@kennet7837 Keiino members have also spoken about their own hesitations of participating because of Israel's presence
@@alex5623 Possibly, but they seemed eager to go at the same time.
@@kennet7837they've already confirmed
I think Gåte should win the whole thing in Malmø. Nothing could possibly be any better than this.
What happens to the song, when it comes to results, is really secondary to me. Music is primarily not competition in the first place. So if it does good, then great. If it doesn't do that good, then What Ever. There are too many people who think "we" shouldn't choose this or that song, because it will not do well in ESC. But the response should be So What?
Not going to the final is the only big loss.
Being a Norwegian who have experienced some of the nill points, this is not devastating.
So if Europe doesn't like it, either the juries or the televoters, that is their problem.
Well spoken! As a Norwegian, I totally agree.
i think that this song is such a beautiful representative of your culture. the people who like it absolutely love it and feel the connective tissues to Norway. 12 points from Finland
Epic. Raw. Breathtaking. Best entry from Norway in ages :) For the first time since Rybak I am getting winner vibes from a Norwegian entry, except Margaret Berger in 2013. I have not been happy with all the cheap generic pop songs we've sent the past years - although they have appealed to the televise. This is really something else, and I cannot wait to see Gåte kill, destroy and deliver it in Malmø :):):)
I think Gåte will win Eurovision! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻 also I love their last song Alvedansen which is also sung in Norwegian, folk and folklore inspired from 2006! 🩷
They took the Aurora borealis with them. A never ending story as prop to a song with a story that has been in the making for a 1000 years ❤
my top 3 tradicional folk music and rock
My analyze is that everyone has to step up one level form last years win with the Loreen performance on stage. Loreen created an own space on stage between the sandwich panels and performed both visually and vocally. The feeling was that one was stuck in awe from the beginning to the end of the song.
This contribution, by Gåte, also makes a suiting space for the singer on the stage with stage props and light. The singer also both performs and has good vocal abilities. Also this contribution has this spellbound effect and you have to see this performance from start to end.
I think this is the recipe to win or get a top position in Eurovision 2024.
Interesting analyses. I think this is the best Norwegian entry for many years.
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This track is an example of a genre I don’t really like: kind of prog rock/ folk rock. It’s a type of rock that I don’t enjoy and does not resonate with me. It’s therefore lying close to the bottom of my personal rankings. However I can see that it is authentic, genuine and well performed and staged. So despite it not being my taste I can see its appeal and that it deserves its place on the Eurovision stage, perhaps more so than the standard Euro bop that is so commonplace. It has its audience and in terms of Eurovision can only add to the changing perspective of the contest as a quality musical show rather than a factory for throwaway forgettable pop. It’s not an entry that I want but an entry that needs to be there and despite my tastes, I am glad it is.
I've never undestood how people can just not like a whole genre. I can't think of a single genre that has no songs I enjoy.
@@realmarsastro good point. And the truth is that there are always exceptions of course. I am allowed to have my tastes ( just as you are). Just because I don’t like it doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate it, which I hope I indicated.
@@realmarsastrothey don't find them pleasing to the ear. Like this one for me. Wailing.
It will be very polarizing for juries based on how they've been voting.
Non-English, Folk, Rock. Many hurdles sadly.
Norway again will do better with televote I think
I really don't care if the song wins or not, I'm just happy we're sending something I feel proud of, something that represents what I'd like Norway to be.
Thanks for this analysis!
Concerning juries prefer popsongs - esc 2022 the winner Maaneskin got 206 points and a 4th place by the juries. So no catastrophe jurywise with a rock song. Ulveham is folkrock - so.....
Anything between that and what the juries gave Go_A is possible I think. It really depends on what other songs are going to be jury score magnets.
Juries might be Norways achilles heel once again this year. Gåte didn't win the juries in their own NF, in fact they ironically lost to Keiino who themselves had zero jury appeal the last time they were in ESC and Norway hasn't gone up in the odds like Alessandra did by this time last year.
I think Gåte will do well with the juries but not good enough to win Eurovision.
In fairness, I think what Keiino brought to MGP this year was their best vocal performance, best staging and biggest earworm. I wouldn't say that about their previous two songs. I found them to be especially weak from a visual point of view.
I would have preferred to see Gåte win the jury vote because they excelled in all those areas more in my view, but I think Keiino should see this as a sort of win and just move on to other things from Eurovision. I doubt that their song this year would have received a better result than their last one.
But yes, there's a big question about how this will be received by the juries. Fingers crossed! 🤞
@@stu_makes_vids Interesting. If Keiino would've gotten a good jury score with Damdiggida then maybe it wouldn't have been such a bad idea to send them because that's the area Norway has struggled in.
I am ofc putting on my Eurovision tactician cap here and looking at it from a perspective of which song could give Norway a Eurovision win. I do prefer Gåte winning MGP over Keiino though.
I don’t think you can compare the juries that MGP have and the juries that will be in ESC. Last year Alessandra won the jury in MGP and everyone saw how that went down in ESC.
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Im really worried for the jury this year, I feel the jury has bad taste.... They always screws us over.
Norway Gate is the best i am from Poland but i live in Germany
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I don't know how the juries are supposed to weigh their scores, but I imagine that lyrics is a major component they focus on, and those are actually the weakest aspect of this song. It's not relatable to anything real or current, and extremely fragmented because they had to shorten it - They even had to drop the ending. The maiden doesn't break the curse in this version, because there's no time for it 🤣
Don't get me wrong. I absolutely love the song, I think it's the best song we've ever sent. The composition, presentation, the vocal delivery is all perfection. They do a phenomenal job of conveying the drama of the story, but a coherent story simply isn't there anymore in a literary sense. All that doesn't matter to an audience which by and large won't understand the words anyway, but if they lose jury points over it, then that is perfectly fair imo.
So surprisingly, lyrics are not a criteria. If the juror understands them and wants to take them into account there's nothing stopping them, or if the broadcaster provides them with translated subtitles it might affect their opinion of the song.
The bigger concern for most people is that some songs that veer far away from pop music standards are not widely appreciated. There have been a few examples of songs that were quite outside the box and creative getting high televote scores and middling jury support. My hope is that won't be a factor here, but I think it might be tough to get higher than 5th with the jury score.
This makes me want to go dance naked in a forest in a fairy ring around a bonfire, woooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!
I have a feeling Ukraine will vote Norway and Norway will vote Ukraine.
Well to answer this video’s title, no. The real question is why the fuck not
France etc for me is boring. It is good but boring
Your objections are all invalid. The ESC is a composer contest, where only the composer receives a prize. Therefore, staging, vocals, and performance are entirely irrelevant if the m o r o n i c jury and voters were able to adhere faithfully to the concept of the ESC.
I'd argue if both televoters and the jury vote that way, that's how it works. It's a bit like language, the rules follow what people are actually doing, not the other way around. And for a contest this old, it's bound to evolve with the times. Maybe it started out as a composer contest, but that's not what it is today.
@@tangent5What in this did you not understand? "only the composer receives a prize"
@@UA-cam_Stole_My_Handle_Too I missed that part when replying. But from my very quick and limited research, it seems like the performer wins the main prize (trophy), and songwriters and composers get a smaller one. Maybe I'm confused on what you're referring to as the "prize".
@@tangent5 Of course you aren't. If you found the rules, you're fully aware of what 'prize' refers to.
@@UA-cam_Stole_My_Handle_Too If that's the case I stand by what I said. I'm just not sure what prize only the composer receives. I'm interested to know.
Such a horrible choice 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah imagine actually sending a representation of your culture, traditional music, based on a 1000 year old folk lore poem, creative and original music, instead of some mind numbing TikTok pop!
@@feffe_ I don’t care if it represents the countries culture if the song is fucking boring
@@reislaya as I see it Eurovision is a stage to represent your culture and nation, which I see this as a perfect example of. And if there is one thing this song is it definitely isn’t boring there’s so much happening in the soundscape and etc. But it might not be your taste and that I respect
I agree. Awful.
They would've won the juries in 2020 🥲