Weird Impeller That Works Surprisingly Well - 3D Printed Flexible Impeller Water Pump

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  • Опубліковано 26 жов 2021
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    The flexible impeller is different and way less known than for example centrifugal, piston, or gear pumps. It was really interesting to build something challenging and way different. I also find a real use for TPU.
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  • @LetsPrintYT
    @LetsPrintYT  2 роки тому +16

    Pump files NOW AVAILABLE!!! thangs.com/Lets-Print/Flexible-Impeller-Water-Pump-32286?

    • @lucashunter5443
      @lucashunter5443 2 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much for all the work you put into the video. I really enjoyed the video and I was thinking of a way our robotics team could use this. When you made the hub part of your model is it a circle or a hexagon. And if it is a circle how were you able to sketch on the circle so that you could add the fingers. Great job 👏

    • @no.6243
      @no.6243 2 роки тому

      Listening to you chew up English is an honor and a pleasure cousin. Don't feel bad, your English is better than most native speakers. God knows I chew it up myself. That pump is fucking cool, keep up the good work.

    • @osmacar5331
      @osmacar5331 2 роки тому

      Push the shaft through the what? The baby?

    • @Holy-Terrorist
      @Holy-Terrorist Рік тому

      **=** Look at this video: ua-cam.com/video/MjUVWaCjo98/v-deo.html
      If interested about type of pump shape, if that work very well, idk 😉

  • @sachideshmane5088
    @sachideshmane5088 2 роки тому +307

    Next time put water resistant grease in the pump housing before the first start. This will minimize friction and improve sealing. Many mass-produced flexible vane pumps do this from the factory.

    • @dragosserbanescu8267
      @dragosserbanescu8267 2 роки тому +5

      Isn't all grease water resistant?

    • @kbee225
      @kbee225 2 роки тому +26

      @@dragosserbanescu8267 ever heard of emulsions?

    • @ghosthildebrand3078
      @ghosthildebrand3078 2 роки тому +2

      use dawn dish soap. It's what we use in the marine industry, as this is just a water pump out of an outboard engine

    • @sail4life
      @sail4life Рік тому +6

      @@brad1367 Mayonnaise is the classic example of what you get when water and grease are emulsified.

  • @justarixell4873
    @justarixell4873 2 роки тому +95

    Still waiting for the day when you make a pump that doesn't leak lol

    • @SaajaadeenJeffries
      @SaajaadeenJeffries 2 роки тому +9

      man need to start using gaskets and seals

    • @doanprasmana1444
      @doanprasmana1444 2 роки тому +2

      @@SaajaadeenJeffries or print it with that rubber printing...

  • @GreenEvolutions
    @GreenEvolutions 2 роки тому +200

    White teflon Pipe tape, and print a tpu gasket, for the acrylic front plate, might have been the better way to go... but love the effort and ingenuity ..

    • @maverickstclare3756
      @maverickstclare3756 2 роки тому +18

      came to type same, and maybe the outlet could be a 90 deg elbow instead up straight up - the head pressure was inhibiting the outflow

    • @BenMillen
      @BenMillen 2 роки тому +1

      Came here to say the same too

    • @roxasparks
      @roxasparks 2 роки тому +1

      Was ganna say the same.

    • @mrnlce7939
      @mrnlce7939 2 роки тому +2

      PTFE tape (Polytetrafluoroethylene)

    • @james10739
      @james10739 2 роки тому +2

      I was thinking silicone for the seal but ya he has the printer so tpu makes sense

  • @LetsPrintYT
    @LetsPrintYT  2 роки тому +10

    Free .stl files will be added in early next week!! If u are interested to download these, please revisit this video description next week. Sorry for the delay!

    • @mattweger437
      @mattweger437 2 роки тому +1

      What about step or original files

    • @mattweger437
      @mattweger437 2 роки тому +2

      @RASEL we're trying to science here

  • @Mburin_B
    @Mburin_B 2 роки тому +2

    This style of pump has been used in the boating industry for over 100years its reliable and simple

  • @mozkitolife5437
    @mozkitolife5437 2 роки тому +61

    Great work. You're like the Integza of water pumps.

  • @timplett1
    @timplett1 2 роки тому +45

    When using NPT fittings I have had good success with printing the part with a smooth tapered hole (no thread), then warming the metal fitting just enough to screw it in (don't want to soften too much of the plastic). Then, once everything has cooled down, just tighten the fitting up a little further.

  • @katuchilife5943
    @katuchilife5943 2 роки тому

    I like the way this guy talks. Clearly English is not his first language but he still gets the point across effectively. Would love to see a bloopers video of him missing up a bunch of words.

  • @saltysteel3996
    @saltysteel3996 2 роки тому +25

    Just about all outboard engines use these for the water pump to cool the engine.

    • @rgarito
      @rgarito 2 роки тому +2

      Inboard engines, too, for the raw water pump... Nothing "surprising" about it really.

  • @1320nico
    @1320nico 2 роки тому +2

    Maybe you can use graphite infused filament for decreased friction

  • @kjstudiotv3185
    @kjstudiotv3185 2 роки тому +5

    Nice PUMP bro XD. No kidding an actual good design

  • @joshuaobelenusable
    @joshuaobelenusable 2 роки тому +39

    Today I learned PCBWay does more than PCBs, good to know. Looks like you were losing some water on the bearing at the back, maybe use a water pump bushing? And on the lid, maybe add a recess and a PTFE washer to hold the end? Neat design!

    • @Qwarzz
      @Qwarzz 2 роки тому +1

      I feel like leaking pumps are a thing here :)

  • @DD-DD-DD
    @DD-DD-DD 2 роки тому +11

    Print a TPU gasket for the window seal, and try automotve RTV on the hose barb threads for a sealant.

  • @tee4222
    @tee4222 2 роки тому +6

    Very cool! That’s the most common kind of pump you’ll find in the seawater cooling loops on marine engines and generators. Usually the impellers are made of either neoprene or nitrile.

  • @nedgligich
    @nedgligich 2 роки тому +2

    Hi nice job.. few tips;
    The pump is called a "Flexible Vane Pump".
    The chamber should be round and the impeller shaft ofset from centre.
    3D prints are porus, more then likely why you are getting air in the pump chamber, try spraying the internals with a few coats of enamel paint to seal the chamber and inlets.
    cheers.

  • @unaiagirre7352
    @unaiagirre7352 2 роки тому +1

    3:05 i love how serious this video was till this part haha

  • @cliffordgoehring7146
    @cliffordgoehring7146 Рік тому

    Outboard motors have used those water pump impellers FOREVER!

  • @easymac79
    @easymac79 6 місяців тому +1

    I love flexible filaments. I find myself making even "rigid" parts with flexibles because they are virtually unbreakable.
    They tend to hold items better as well, such as tool holders.
    Bed adhesion seems to be better and can run on a cooler bed and I usually don't use part cooling, really for anything, but it's not needed for TPU.
    All of this lends to a quieter environment with less ambient heat - It's winter time now and I wouldn't mind some of those machines churning out some heat, but in the summer this is a measurable cost savings especially if you are using a large machine to prototype small parts.

  • @jamescunningham541
    @jamescunningham541 2 роки тому +2

    Use some Teflon tape on your threaded fittings, use rtv silicone to seal the clear lid, and get some mercury 2-4-c marine grease for the oring, impeller and bearing. It will prime much better without any air getting in and it will most likely stop leaking. Cool build!! The impeller looks identical to an outboard, same idea. Bravo 👏

  • @loganphillips5142
    @loganphillips5142 2 роки тому +1

    That's a pretty cool water bump you got there

  • @TuttleScott
    @TuttleScott 2 роки тому +3

    You're printing in TPU but it doesnt occur to you to make custom gaskets for your pump?

  • @redeye118
    @redeye118 2 роки тому +1

    Pretty cool water bump

  • @internettoughguy
    @internettoughguy 2 роки тому +12

    That "double sided o-ring" is called a grommet. It's not actually an o-ring. They are not designed to seal around rotating shafts. Yes they'll work okay for a limited amount of time.

  • @HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy
    @HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy 2 роки тому

    Really liking your channel, and I don’t care if you don’t speak perfectly, it’s good enough!

  • @freerideshuttle
    @freerideshuttle 2 роки тому

    I'm using these pumps daily by 10-15 years and exists way before I even knew about them. Good job ecplaining however for the ones that don't know about these type of pumps.

  • @neok1996
    @neok1996 2 роки тому +1

    Making the outlet longer so the water can flow out earlier might help to
    Water needs a place to go before it gets compressed

  • @TLMX722
    @TLMX722 2 роки тому

    Close step to making mechanic hearts

  • @slowguy66
    @slowguy66 2 роки тому +2

    That style of impeller has been used in outboard boat engines for a really long time.

    • @usbcd360
      @usbcd360 2 роки тому +1

      And small inboard engines, like those in sailboats.

  • @thatonecarguy5999
    @thatonecarguy5999 11 місяців тому

    Am I the only one that was mesmerized by the water and Impeller at 10:20

  • @KieranShort
    @KieranShort 2 роки тому +1

    Nice pump!

  • @Gadget-Tree
    @Gadget-Tree 2 роки тому +1

    This is exactly what outboard boat motors use for a .water pump.

  • @backgammonbacon
    @backgammonbacon 2 роки тому +1

    Let's Print is back in the game. Well done great video.

  • @Skibszilla
    @Skibszilla 2 роки тому +1

    Cool project!

  • @13blackg
    @13blackg 11 місяців тому

    man recreates a waterpump found on every outboard boat engine from the 30's to now

  • @cdburner5911
    @cdburner5911 2 роки тому +3

    that is super impressive! In addition to all the other good suggested improvements by others, it looks like the part after the inlet, where the bump/flat part is, transitions too quickly to the normal circular diameter, and at full speed, the ends of the arms dont flick out fast enough, and there isnt a seal maintained. making this a more gentle transition should fix this issue and potentially improve performance at high rpms.
    a tip for sealing the front is you can print in an oring grove in the housing, and then get a large oring, or oring stock and then trim to fit and use super glue to repair the oring.

  • @tomass9235
    @tomass9235 2 роки тому +5

    "How to increase microplastics amount in your water supply" :D trolling aside, nice pump.

  • @duanejohnston8982
    @duanejohnston8982 2 роки тому +3

    Thats fantastic! I also designed a 3D printable Flexible impeller pump however I like some of the things you did with the housing like the double sided o-ring! Keep up the good content.

  • @TheZombieSaints
    @TheZombieSaints Рік тому +1

    I love these videos, it really shows how these impellers 'squeeze' the water out. Excellent work bud 👍

  • @wandersgion4989
    @wandersgion4989 2 роки тому +1

    Nice bump.

  • @tlv1117
    @tlv1117 2 роки тому +1

    Not that weird, there's one like it in just about every boat motor.

  • @electronic7979
    @electronic7979 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent

  • @thee_number_six6227
    @thee_number_six6227 2 роки тому +1

    A suggestion RTV gasket maker. You won't need high temp for a plastic water pump but it should stop the leaks for future could even add it to the threads for the nozzles

  • @boblewis5558
    @boblewis5558 2 роки тому

    Not checked if anyone else has said this already, but ...
    1. Use PTFE plumber's tape to seal your nozzles. Done properly it's gas tight so water is no problem
    2. Large silicone "O" rings of almost any size needed are easily available. online. Modify your design to have a channel just large enough for such an "O" ring on the INSIDE of the screw radii, but close to that radius. Then when you fit your bolts it will tighten down on the cover. If you are using self tapping screws it would probably be better using machine screws and captive nuts.
    Great idea, and keep persevering since self priming pumps are invaluable for ponds rather than a submersible pump. 👍👍👍

  • @blocko_662
    @blocko_662 2 роки тому

    I like when he says "PEPE" instead of bearing

  • @mattwr222
    @mattwr222 2 роки тому +2

    What if you angled the impeller blades, bringing the water in on 1 side and exciting out the backside would that give extra centrifugal force. Any ideas about this comment?

  • @yeetedon
    @yeetedon 2 роки тому +1

    Have you tried the peristaltic pump design? It has much less room for leaking and has very high control over the water. It is highly efficient as well.

    • @platinumsky845
      @platinumsky845 2 роки тому

      Peristaltic pumps are great, but don't have a very high pumping speed. Both use similar concepts of flexible materials to creat the variable sized "chamber".

  • @MyITIGyan
    @MyITIGyan 2 роки тому +1

    Very good👍 pump

  • @anilshirsat4406
    @anilshirsat4406 2 роки тому

    Better idea of flexible impeller is really amusing, only the question how far its ability of flexibility retain .👌👍

  • @joeweb5581
    @joeweb5581 2 роки тому +1

    Very common actually. Outboard boat motor water pumps are made this way.
    Rubber rather than 3d print though.

  • @fmphotooffice5513
    @fmphotooffice5513 2 роки тому

    The impossible quest of getting something from nothing by ignoring what you are insisting. You have to use energy to BEND the blade before it can flick. Impressive IS the modular planetary gear system. WONDERFUL 3d printing has changed practical experimentation forever.

  • @ParametricCPA
    @ParametricCPA 2 роки тому +4

    Love it! I think a lot of friction between the impeller and the housing - what about coating it in graphite? You could crush a bunch of pencil lead and adhere it to the surface.

    • @RayRayGaming-cr3rw
      @RayRayGaming-cr3rw 2 роки тому +2

      @RASEL.. 💋 spam bot

    • @adamdnewman
      @adamdnewman 2 роки тому +2

      @@RayRayGaming-cr3rw keep reporting the spam and maybe youtube will fix it

    • @platinumsky845
      @platinumsky845 2 роки тому +1

      @@adamdnewman it worked, they're gone!

  • @kennethbeal
    @kennethbeal Рік тому

    Thank you! "Nonono, this sentence not working" -- I can relate! :)

  • @Bacon676
    @Bacon676 2 роки тому

    Neat little peristaltic pump concept

  • @hinduwarrior123
    @hinduwarrior123 2 роки тому

    Excellent design👍👍👍

  • @jesusisalive3227
    @jesusisalive3227 2 роки тому +1

    That's just like the impeller on an outboard motor.

  • @Mr.Pidgeon
    @Mr.Pidgeon 2 роки тому +1

    You could get 2 inlets and outlets, maybe 3 if clever, would increase flow

  • @LRC247
    @LRC247 2 роки тому

    Awesome video, you should try making a trash pump style! They generally produce a huge amount of volume

  • @Barteroofficial
    @Barteroofficial 2 роки тому +1

    nice pump

  • @cynic5581
    @cynic5581 Рік тому

    This isn’t “weird” (unusual). This is exactly how a non submergible pump from a hardware store works.

  • @McAwesome1988
    @McAwesome1988 2 роки тому

    Tpu is absolutely perfect materiqal for this application, tpu is flexible but not so flexible as another flexible things, no no no this sentence is not working. Hahaha you got my follow just because of that sentence! Thank you for not editing it out! Hqhahaha love it thank you

  • @shadowcard6923
    @shadowcard6923 2 роки тому +2

    I’d suggest printing a recess to place your calk in, figuring out how to smooth out the inner casing, Teflon taping or caulking the threads, and potentially printing at a slightly higher temp if you can to pack a little more material together in case the threads are cracking and that’s why you’re getting some leak

  • @Anenome5
    @Anenome5 2 роки тому

    That's great, but scroll pumps are the ultimate achievement man, they have sliding contact but nothing flexing, it's genius.

  • @TV-vg8wz
    @TV-vg8wz 3 місяці тому

    foreign bro
    I am also a Korean who is very interested in 3D printed water pumps.
    3D water pumps are not sealed and therefore do not create pressure.
    If you want a little more pressure, apply a thin layer of waterproof silicone to the inside and outside with a brush. Of course, a gasket must be used on the pump cover as standard.

  • @TrillMurray
    @TrillMurray 2 роки тому

    Very interesting design. Really cool

  • @CTMKD
    @CTMKD 2 роки тому

    I love this accent and video

  • @NoobWardenSpammer
    @NoobWardenSpammer 2 роки тому

    you can also add gaskets before the acrylic cover so the water wont leak

  • @crystaldragon141
    @crystaldragon141 2 роки тому +1

    two words o-ring grooves. put an o-ring groove just inside the diameter of the front cover screws. you can also leave a chamfer at the edges of the threads for the fittings that you can tighten the fittings down against. Nice design!

  • @galacticnipple2586
    @galacticnipple2586 2 роки тому

    Your videos are getting better and better, this is so cool!

  • @pulsefel9210
    @pulsefel9210 2 роки тому +4

    I'm curious how long it can last. Will the bending eventually lead to tearing and malfunction?

    • @chrisnorth3458
      @chrisnorth3458 2 роки тому +2

      Yes, even the commercial impellers which are molded from some kind of resin eventually fail but last surprisingly long even in harsh environments. make sure the inlet has some kind of strainer

    • @rgarito
      @rgarito 2 роки тому

      Generally marine pumps that are constructed the same way require impeller replacement once a year or so...

  • @cobrasvt347
    @cobrasvt347 2 роки тому

    Yep. Boat motor water pump impellers work great.

  • @faraday9234
    @faraday9234 2 роки тому +1

    I'd try and match your compression zone with the outlet better so it doesn't leak and the same with the inlet so your have a better pump on both sides maybe even make them square ports?

  • @TheShivABC
    @TheShivABC 2 роки тому

    You can buy these impellers already in the wild, boat motors use this type of pump to cool the cylinders with the lake water

  • @oldwolf9403
    @oldwolf9403 2 роки тому

    Very similar to the westerbeke generator water pumps. Works fairly well, you definitely *need* to have them with water to keep them from wearing out. Fun to be able to see it in operation though, impressed the 3d print is holding water that well.

  • @guipop2614
    @guipop2614 2 роки тому +1

    You could use PTFE tape on the inlet and outlet to improve water tightness and so improve priming for the inlet and avoid flooding your room for the outlet

  • @FPVREVIEWS
    @FPVREVIEWS 11 місяців тому

    It’s a very common type of pump.
    Not weird at all.

  • @justindunlap1235
    @justindunlap1235 2 роки тому

    this reminds me of the pump I used to brine hams when I worked in a butcher shop. it was a brass disc set off center in the housing with thick rubber vanes that slid out with centrifugal force.

  • @brandonwood5510
    @brandonwood5510 2 роки тому

    That's the same exact type of water pump that an outboard marine motor uses been around for a very long time

  • @chell6022
    @chell6022 2 роки тому

    Love your videos

  • @fedo18
    @fedo18 11 місяців тому

    "Weird Impeller That Works weirdly Well" shouldve been the title

  • @gmeast
    @gmeast 2 роки тому +2

    input shaft needs two bearings

  • @thomasgerster8405
    @thomasgerster8405 2 роки тому +1

    Nice!
    But the volume gets smaller inside each chamber in the smaller section, wich increases the pressure instantly.
    what was your thought behind that? 🤔
    Because water isn't compressable.

    • @mrfixite
      @mrfixite 2 роки тому

      To pump the water out?

  • @michaelbigby366
    @michaelbigby366 2 роки тому

    I wonder if you could print a tpu gasket for the rim of the acrylic lid.

  • @MostlyInteresting
    @MostlyInteresting 10 місяців тому

    Exactly the same as the cooling pumps in outboard motors. As the speed increases the pump vanes will lay back and it goes to centrifugal mode.

  • @cybernite99
    @cybernite99 2 роки тому

    This is how the water pump on boats works. Works well, however the rubber wears out even without use.

  • @MDalton10
    @MDalton10 2 роки тому

    I would suggest building the body from stiffer highspeed tpu? Tpu is the easiest filament to make water tight. You could also add some Teflon tape to you metal barbs. Pretty interesting

  • @johncoffey4117
    @johncoffey4117 2 роки тому

    If you have two small diagrams one to your intake one to your outlet would it add more suction to your pump

  • @kalpanagarghate7379
    @kalpanagarghate7379 2 роки тому +1

    Hey I like your vedios :)

  • @jonathangarzon2798
    @jonathangarzon2798 2 роки тому

    Is this worth it when taking into account the significant reduction in longevity/reliability of the vanes?

  • @Creeperboy099
    @Creeperboy099 2 роки тому

    This is the same principle as a vane compressor- interesting how you executed it in this manner with a flexing impeller

  • @carlg3111
    @carlg3111 2 роки тому +1

    Pretty cool design. I haven't read all the comments so this may have already been mentioned. I think your design would work better (leaks aside) if you make the transition at the intake side of the pump a more gradual curve instead of the sharp bend. It looks like the pump is cavitating in that section which I believe is leading to a loss of suction. Thank you for the video

  • @ryankitching5936
    @ryankitching5936 2 роки тому +1

    I get you can use a lub, but it's going to chew through the stuff.
    How does the parts wear cost outweight the efficiency gain?

  • @klave8511
    @klave8511 2 роки тому +5

    Needs another bearing to resist the lateral force from the impeller, plastic housing isn’t really good enough for the force if you want it to last. I have experience in this type of failure.

  • @otisdavies1861
    @otisdavies1861 2 роки тому +1

    That impeller is a water pump from an outboard boat engine

  • @monn9239
    @monn9239 Рік тому

    you could try to 3d print o rings with a really flexible material and use them to seal the inlets and outlets

  • @littleraptor9898
    @littleraptor9898 2 роки тому +1

    you could try an old vacuum pump design. use an inverted impeller, then put springed graphite brushes into the slots, which will create a perfect seal, and make nearly no friction.

    • @platinumsky845
      @platinumsky845 2 роки тому

      Just a regular vaned pump, in other words.

  • @mafosa8519
    @mafosa8519 2 роки тому

    What would happen if the inside was round and the blades where slightly dragging inside the wall?
    “Great share!”
    Larry

  • @mr.kibble1577
    @mr.kibble1577 2 роки тому +1

    Nice work man! love ur video keep up the good work!!!

  • @bepeplia5086
    @bepeplia5086 2 роки тому +1

    Pretty sure pla is flexible enough to use without breaking and it reduces friction

  • @floridacoder
    @floridacoder 2 роки тому

    I also wonder how good TPU would be as a gasket material. To do something about that leaking.