Weird Impeller That Works Surprisingly Well - 3D Printed Flexible Impeller Water Pump
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- Опубліковано 26 жов 2021
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The flexible impeller is different and way less known than for example centrifugal, piston, or gear pumps. It was really interesting to build something challenging and way different. I also find a real use for TPU.
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Thank you so much for all the work you put into the video. I really enjoyed the video and I was thinking of a way our robotics team could use this. When you made the hub part of your model is it a circle or a hexagon. And if it is a circle how were you able to sketch on the circle so that you could add the fingers. Great job 👏
Listening to you chew up English is an honor and a pleasure cousin. Don't feel bad, your English is better than most native speakers. God knows I chew it up myself. That pump is fucking cool, keep up the good work.
Push the shaft through the what? The baby?
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If interested about type of pump shape, if that work very well, idk 😉
Next time put water resistant grease in the pump housing before the first start. This will minimize friction and improve sealing. Many mass-produced flexible vane pumps do this from the factory.
Isn't all grease water resistant?
@@dragosserbanescu8267 ever heard of emulsions?
use dawn dish soap. It's what we use in the marine industry, as this is just a water pump out of an outboard engine
@@brad1367 Mayonnaise is the classic example of what you get when water and grease are emulsified.
Still waiting for the day when you make a pump that doesn't leak lol
man need to start using gaskets and seals
@@SaajaadeenJeffries or print it with that rubber printing...
White teflon Pipe tape, and print a tpu gasket, for the acrylic front plate, might have been the better way to go... but love the effort and ingenuity ..
came to type same, and maybe the outlet could be a 90 deg elbow instead up straight up - the head pressure was inhibiting the outflow
Came here to say the same too
Was ganna say the same.
PTFE tape (Polytetrafluoroethylene)
I was thinking silicone for the seal but ya he has the printer so tpu makes sense
Free .stl files will be added in early next week!! If u are interested to download these, please revisit this video description next week. Sorry for the delay!
What about step or original files
@RASEL we're trying to science here
This style of pump has been used in the boating industry for over 100years its reliable and simple
Great work. You're like the Integza of water pumps.
When using NPT fittings I have had good success with printing the part with a smooth tapered hole (no thread), then warming the metal fitting just enough to screw it in (don't want to soften too much of the plastic). Then, once everything has cooled down, just tighten the fitting up a little further.
I like the way this guy talks. Clearly English is not his first language but he still gets the point across effectively. Would love to see a bloopers video of him missing up a bunch of words.
Just about all outboard engines use these for the water pump to cool the engine.
Inboard engines, too, for the raw water pump... Nothing "surprising" about it really.
Maybe you can use graphite infused filament for decreased friction
Nice PUMP bro XD. No kidding an actual good design
Today I learned PCBWay does more than PCBs, good to know. Looks like you were losing some water on the bearing at the back, maybe use a water pump bushing? And on the lid, maybe add a recess and a PTFE washer to hold the end? Neat design!
I feel like leaking pumps are a thing here :)
Print a TPU gasket for the window seal, and try automotve RTV on the hose barb threads for a sealant.
Very cool! That’s the most common kind of pump you’ll find in the seawater cooling loops on marine engines and generators. Usually the impellers are made of either neoprene or nitrile.
Hi nice job.. few tips;
The pump is called a "Flexible Vane Pump".
The chamber should be round and the impeller shaft ofset from centre.
3D prints are porus, more then likely why you are getting air in the pump chamber, try spraying the internals with a few coats of enamel paint to seal the chamber and inlets.
cheers.
3:05 i love how serious this video was till this part haha
Outboard motors have used those water pump impellers FOREVER!
I love flexible filaments. I find myself making even "rigid" parts with flexibles because they are virtually unbreakable.
They tend to hold items better as well, such as tool holders.
Bed adhesion seems to be better and can run on a cooler bed and I usually don't use part cooling, really for anything, but it's not needed for TPU.
All of this lends to a quieter environment with less ambient heat - It's winter time now and I wouldn't mind some of those machines churning out some heat, but in the summer this is a measurable cost savings especially if you are using a large machine to prototype small parts.
Use some Teflon tape on your threaded fittings, use rtv silicone to seal the clear lid, and get some mercury 2-4-c marine grease for the oring, impeller and bearing. It will prime much better without any air getting in and it will most likely stop leaking. Cool build!! The impeller looks identical to an outboard, same idea. Bravo 👏
That's a pretty cool water bump you got there
You're printing in TPU but it doesnt occur to you to make custom gaskets for your pump?
Pretty cool water bump
That "double sided o-ring" is called a grommet. It's not actually an o-ring. They are not designed to seal around rotating shafts. Yes they'll work okay for a limited amount of time.
Really liking your channel, and I don’t care if you don’t speak perfectly, it’s good enough!
I'm using these pumps daily by 10-15 years and exists way before I even knew about them. Good job ecplaining however for the ones that don't know about these type of pumps.
Making the outlet longer so the water can flow out earlier might help to
Water needs a place to go before it gets compressed
Close step to making mechanic hearts
That style of impeller has been used in outboard boat engines for a really long time.
And small inboard engines, like those in sailboats.
Am I the only one that was mesmerized by the water and Impeller at 10:20
Nice pump!
This is exactly what outboard boat motors use for a .water pump.
Let's Print is back in the game. Well done great video.
Cool project!
man recreates a waterpump found on every outboard boat engine from the 30's to now
that is super impressive! In addition to all the other good suggested improvements by others, it looks like the part after the inlet, where the bump/flat part is, transitions too quickly to the normal circular diameter, and at full speed, the ends of the arms dont flick out fast enough, and there isnt a seal maintained. making this a more gentle transition should fix this issue and potentially improve performance at high rpms.
a tip for sealing the front is you can print in an oring grove in the housing, and then get a large oring, or oring stock and then trim to fit and use super glue to repair the oring.
"How to increase microplastics amount in your water supply" :D trolling aside, nice pump.
Thats fantastic! I also designed a 3D printable Flexible impeller pump however I like some of the things you did with the housing like the double sided o-ring! Keep up the good content.
I love these videos, it really shows how these impellers 'squeeze' the water out. Excellent work bud 👍
Nice bump.
Not that weird, there's one like it in just about every boat motor.
Excellent
A suggestion RTV gasket maker. You won't need high temp for a plastic water pump but it should stop the leaks for future could even add it to the threads for the nozzles
Not checked if anyone else has said this already, but ...
1. Use PTFE plumber's tape to seal your nozzles. Done properly it's gas tight so water is no problem
2. Large silicone "O" rings of almost any size needed are easily available. online. Modify your design to have a channel just large enough for such an "O" ring on the INSIDE of the screw radii, but close to that radius. Then when you fit your bolts it will tighten down on the cover. If you are using self tapping screws it would probably be better using machine screws and captive nuts.
Great idea, and keep persevering since self priming pumps are invaluable for ponds rather than a submersible pump. 👍👍👍
I like when he says "PEPE" instead of bearing
What if you angled the impeller blades, bringing the water in on 1 side and exciting out the backside would that give extra centrifugal force. Any ideas about this comment?
Have you tried the peristaltic pump design? It has much less room for leaking and has very high control over the water. It is highly efficient as well.
Peristaltic pumps are great, but don't have a very high pumping speed. Both use similar concepts of flexible materials to creat the variable sized "chamber".
Very good👍 pump
Better idea of flexible impeller is really amusing, only the question how far its ability of flexibility retain .👌👍
Very common actually. Outboard boat motor water pumps are made this way.
Rubber rather than 3d print though.
The impossible quest of getting something from nothing by ignoring what you are insisting. You have to use energy to BEND the blade before it can flick. Impressive IS the modular planetary gear system. WONDERFUL 3d printing has changed practical experimentation forever.
Love it! I think a lot of friction between the impeller and the housing - what about coating it in graphite? You could crush a bunch of pencil lead and adhere it to the surface.
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Thank you! "Nonono, this sentence not working" -- I can relate! :)
Neat little peristaltic pump concept
Excellent design👍👍👍
That's just like the impeller on an outboard motor.
You could get 2 inlets and outlets, maybe 3 if clever, would increase flow
Awesome video, you should try making a trash pump style! They generally produce a huge amount of volume
nice pump
This isn’t “weird” (unusual). This is exactly how a non submergible pump from a hardware store works.
Tpu is absolutely perfect materiqal for this application, tpu is flexible but not so flexible as another flexible things, no no no this sentence is not working. Hahaha you got my follow just because of that sentence! Thank you for not editing it out! Hqhahaha love it thank you
I’d suggest printing a recess to place your calk in, figuring out how to smooth out the inner casing, Teflon taping or caulking the threads, and potentially printing at a slightly higher temp if you can to pack a little more material together in case the threads are cracking and that’s why you’re getting some leak
That's great, but scroll pumps are the ultimate achievement man, they have sliding contact but nothing flexing, it's genius.
foreign bro
I am also a Korean who is very interested in 3D printed water pumps.
3D water pumps are not sealed and therefore do not create pressure.
If you want a little more pressure, apply a thin layer of waterproof silicone to the inside and outside with a brush. Of course, a gasket must be used on the pump cover as standard.
Very interesting design. Really cool
I love this accent and video
you can also add gaskets before the acrylic cover so the water wont leak
two words o-ring grooves. put an o-ring groove just inside the diameter of the front cover screws. you can also leave a chamfer at the edges of the threads for the fittings that you can tighten the fittings down against. Nice design!
Your videos are getting better and better, this is so cool!
I'm curious how long it can last. Will the bending eventually lead to tearing and malfunction?
Yes, even the commercial impellers which are molded from some kind of resin eventually fail but last surprisingly long even in harsh environments. make sure the inlet has some kind of strainer
Generally marine pumps that are constructed the same way require impeller replacement once a year or so...
Yep. Boat motor water pump impellers work great.
I'd try and match your compression zone with the outlet better so it doesn't leak and the same with the inlet so your have a better pump on both sides maybe even make them square ports?
You can buy these impellers already in the wild, boat motors use this type of pump to cool the cylinders with the lake water
Very similar to the westerbeke generator water pumps. Works fairly well, you definitely *need* to have them with water to keep them from wearing out. Fun to be able to see it in operation though, impressed the 3d print is holding water that well.
You could use PTFE tape on the inlet and outlet to improve water tightness and so improve priming for the inlet and avoid flooding your room for the outlet
It’s a very common type of pump.
Not weird at all.
this reminds me of the pump I used to brine hams when I worked in a butcher shop. it was a brass disc set off center in the housing with thick rubber vanes that slid out with centrifugal force.
That's the same exact type of water pump that an outboard marine motor uses been around for a very long time
Love your videos
"Weird Impeller That Works weirdly Well" shouldve been the title
input shaft needs two bearings
Nice!
But the volume gets smaller inside each chamber in the smaller section, wich increases the pressure instantly.
what was your thought behind that? 🤔
Because water isn't compressable.
To pump the water out?
I wonder if you could print a tpu gasket for the rim of the acrylic lid.
Exactly the same as the cooling pumps in outboard motors. As the speed increases the pump vanes will lay back and it goes to centrifugal mode.
This is how the water pump on boats works. Works well, however the rubber wears out even without use.
I would suggest building the body from stiffer highspeed tpu? Tpu is the easiest filament to make water tight. You could also add some Teflon tape to you metal barbs. Pretty interesting
If you have two small diagrams one to your intake one to your outlet would it add more suction to your pump
Hey I like your vedios :)
Is this worth it when taking into account the significant reduction in longevity/reliability of the vanes?
This is the same principle as a vane compressor- interesting how you executed it in this manner with a flexing impeller
Pretty cool design. I haven't read all the comments so this may have already been mentioned. I think your design would work better (leaks aside) if you make the transition at the intake side of the pump a more gradual curve instead of the sharp bend. It looks like the pump is cavitating in that section which I believe is leading to a loss of suction. Thank you for the video
I get you can use a lub, but it's going to chew through the stuff.
How does the parts wear cost outweight the efficiency gain?
Needs another bearing to resist the lateral force from the impeller, plastic housing isn’t really good enough for the force if you want it to last. I have experience in this type of failure.
That impeller is a water pump from an outboard boat engine
you could try to 3d print o rings with a really flexible material and use them to seal the inlets and outlets
you could try an old vacuum pump design. use an inverted impeller, then put springed graphite brushes into the slots, which will create a perfect seal, and make nearly no friction.
Just a regular vaned pump, in other words.
What would happen if the inside was round and the blades where slightly dragging inside the wall?
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Nice work man! love ur video keep up the good work!!!
Pretty sure pla is flexible enough to use without breaking and it reduces friction
I also wonder how good TPU would be as a gasket material. To do something about that leaking.