Is this Europe's Shortest Branch Line?

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  • @LeeCorne
    @LeeCorne 11 місяців тому +68

    The train is powered by an onboard flywheel which is spun up to full speed at either end

    • @Jotherando
      @Jotherando 11 місяців тому +2

      No it’s not

    • @LeeCorne
      @LeeCorne 11 місяців тому +29

      @@Jotherando thanks for your informative insight

    • @UncleBearski
      @UncleBearski 11 місяців тому +28

      @@Jotherando - "The Class 139 units are typical of the Parry People Mover concept, in that they utilise flywheel energy storage to recapture and supply the motive force for moving the vehicle.[9] The flywheel captures the vehicle's kinetic energy when the brakes are used,[9] and re-uses the energy for acceleration. This eliminates the need for a large diesel engine. The small onboard engine (fuelled by LPG) is used to initially bring the flywheel up to speed, to add speed to the flywheel after the vehicle is started in motion, and to provide power for the onboard systems.[9]"
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_139

    • @chuckmaddison2924
      @chuckmaddison2924 11 місяців тому

      Many thanks i will look.​@unclebearski3048

    • @thegardensentinel
      @thegardensentinel 11 місяців тому +6

      ​@@Jotherando
      Like all good truths,,,
      Never let the facts get in the way of a short, tall story
      😅

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 11 місяців тому +13

    When it comes to short lines in North America, the Franklin Ave Shuttle is the most interesting of the NYC shuttles considering unlike the other NYC shuttles, it has a station that's only served by a shuttle service, Park Place (also the only station to have a single-track that's NOT a terminal station). It's just over 2 km long but not a branch line as it connects the IND Fulton Street Line with the BMT Brighton Line. Its original purpose was as part of a line to Coney Island, but extending the D to Coney Island ultimately made it a shuttle. The line was home to the deadliest crash in NYC subway history in November 1918 when over 90 people lost their lives because a speeding train derailed in a sharply curved tunnel when it approached Prospect Park. Basically there was a labor strike and they got a non-union dispatcher with NO experience operating the line.
    But a favorite short branch line of mine is the MTR's Disneyland Resort Line in Hong Kong which is 3.8 km. Not only because it has special cute rolling stock with Mickey windows and Mickey handholds, but also the designs of the two stations are meant to be like a time machine, as in you're going from the futuristic city of Hong Kong at Sunny Bay, to the fantasy world of the Disneyland Resort (with Victorian-themed Disneyland Resort station). Because taking a trip to a theme park is like going back to your childhood. And not to mention, the line had the first automated MTR trains before the South Island Line

  • @chatwithmichael
    @chatwithmichael 10 місяців тому +5

    I believe, there’s a shorter branch line in the south of Germany between „Friedrichshafen Stadt“ and „Friedrichshafen Hafen“. It‘s a very similar situation with also just one train serving the line but I think it’s even a bit shorter with the branch being only about 700m long.

  • @pbsteamatspeed7683
    @pbsteamatspeed7683 11 місяців тому +23

    The line's a bit shorter than it used to be because twice trains crashed through the buffers and were suspended over the road below. They built the bus station on the site of the original station.

    • @chriswithhiscamera2454
      @chriswithhiscamera2454  11 місяців тому +4

      I think there are at least couple of examples of trains crashing through the buffers. It was interesting to see how slowly the train I travelled on approached the Town station platform

    • @LittleNala
      @LittleNala 11 місяців тому +4

      Yes, I remember when that happened - I used to walk past Stourbridge Town Station every day on my way to school. The photos got into the national press!

  • @lawrence18uk
    @lawrence18uk 11 місяців тому +4

    John Parry died Feb 2023 - RIP! May your inventions live on for many years to come...

    • @paulketchupwitheverything767
      @paulketchupwitheverything767 9 місяців тому +1

      Sadly it also appears that Parry People Movers Ltd is in liquidation as of December 2023 and are presumably no longer developing these trains.

  • @toscanatrains
    @toscanatrains 11 місяців тому +12

    Enjoyed this! Another very short branch line is the Vatican Railway, which runs from Roma San Pietro into the Vatican. Despite being an international railway, it is in fact only 0.42miles long!

  • @shazrahman8556
    @shazrahman8556 11 місяців тому +4

    My office used to be in nearby Kingswinford and this used to be the highlight of my commute.

  • @stephenbunn2150
    @stephenbunn2150 11 місяців тому +1

    It’s had some fun over the years, forgetting to stop at the end of the line ,at one time the crew had a pint on the bar of local pub, did the run returning back to finish pint and have another 😂

  • @lancastrian123
    @lancastrian123 11 місяців тому +1

    I remember the old station at Stourbridge Town. When I work at Birmingham New Street in the early 1970's, I used to travel in from Stourbridge Junction. I lived only 5 minutes walk from there on Ham Lane. But for an early shift before trains started, I used to have to walk to the Bus Station which was by the Town Station and catch a Bus into the Bus Station by New Street, then just walk through the Parcels area to my job there. I would also use the shuttle to do shopping in Stourbridge Town Centre.

  • @EamonnMooney
    @EamonnMooney 8 місяців тому +1

    If you eat your sandwiches on the train you can have Europes shortest brunch time on Europes shortest branch line.

  • @Teddini
    @Teddini 11 місяців тому +4

    There is a short 300m branch that even crosses international border between Rome/Italy and the Vatican. It's not regularly in service though.
    In Germany, between Friedrichshafen Stadt and Friedrichshafen Hafen, there is a shorter route which does have regular trains.

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 11 місяців тому +6

    The Vatican Railway is a branch line, although it doesn't get regular service! The railway is 300 meters or 980 feet long, making it the shortest national railway system in the world. You can take a train from there seasonally as since 2015, during Spring and Summer on weekends, they offer service to Castel Gandolfo which is the Pope's vacation retreat. The Vatican has a railway because it was guaranteed in the Lateran Treaty in 1929. The construction of its viaduct was paid for by the Italian government! The first locomotive entered the Vatican in March 1932, and the station was opened officially in October 1934. However, the first Pope to use it was Pope John XXIII in 1962. The railway station was actually the only thing bombed in Vatican City during WWII as in March 1944, the Vatican discovered that the Germans actually parked a munitions train there!
    And an interesting short branch line in North America is SEPTA's Cynwyd Line. The line has just three stations, Wynnefield Ave, Bala, and Cynwyd. The Cynwyd Line is a fully grade-separated truncated remnant of the Pennsylvania Railroad's Schuylkill Branch, which ran from Philadelphia to Pottsville. Passenger service ended between Manayunk and Norristown in 1960. In 1980, SEPTA extended service from Manayunk to Ivy Ridge. However, service to Ivy Ridge was suspended in 1986 because of poor track conditions and concerns about the Manayunk Bridge. Thus, service was truncated to Cynwyd. The track between Cynwyd and Ivy Ridge was dismantled between 2008 and 2010 for conversion as an interim rail trail.

  • @Anonymoususer_8823
    @Anonymoususer_8823 Місяць тому

    This is why I want to go to Stourbridge to ride on the Stourbridge shuttle. I really want to go there and to see the shuttle train going between Stourbridge Junction and Stourbridge Town stations. Mind you the Class 139 diesel train is somewhat weird but incredible. I’m so interested in taking a ride it.

  • @genoobtlp4424
    @genoobtlp4424 10 місяців тому +2

    Friedrichshafen to Friedrichshafen Hafen in Germany used to be the shortest regular scheduled train, but it’s probably legally not a branch line

  • @johnson941
    @johnson941 11 місяців тому +14

    This is an adorable little branch line. I could imagine, that this form of very short lines could be quite efficient public transport though.

    • @G6JPG
      @G6JPG 11 місяців тому +4

      Well, somebody somewhere must like it - six times an hour, and even four on Sundays, is more than a lot of (I'd say most) 'bus services!

    • @Neldot
      @Neldot 11 місяців тому +3

      Branch lines like this can be very efficient if they are run with energy efficient vehicles, like the PPM60 that currently run on this line. In fact they are way more cheap and faster to run than any bus service, so that the line can generate a profit or at least it can avoid heavy losses.

  • @dominicbarden4436
    @dominicbarden4436 11 місяців тому +6

    Ah, the shuttle. Brings back memories of being absolutely crammed into the Parry People Mover with other students trying to get to King Edward VI College at half-eight in the morning! Not to mention trying to get back and either squeezing on the 16:20 or being stuck at the back of the queue and having to wait for the 16:30! Absolute madness. Eventually I just started walking to and from college straight from the Junction!
    Nice little train though. Albeit it was a bit of a bumpy ride!

  • @LittleNala
    @LittleNala 11 місяців тому +2

    I was the tea boy on the track-laying gang that used to maintain that line, in about 1973. Although we were usually working on the line to Brum between Cradley Heath and Old Hill.
    The guys hated my tea, but because I was youngest in the gang, I had to do the job - it was the law!

  • @ffrancrogowski2192
    @ffrancrogowski2192 11 місяців тому +1

    Just an ideal railbus for a job on any short branch line.

    • @tsl56
      @tsl56 10 місяців тому

      Yes, but unfortunately the Parry Peoplemover Company, based fairly close, is no longer in business. However, I recently saw a news item that one of the two PPMs had broken down. But no problem, as the technology involved is very easy to deal with. Apparently it was back in action the next day, as they just replaced the flywheel. Parry once made a longer version prototype of this PPM, and I notice that is now used on the heritage Severn Valley Railway. I imagine in future, the PPM technology will be copied by light rail manufacturers. And there is now a national light-rail testing centre at nearby Dudley. Oh, and the tracks of this branch were renovated a couple of years back, so it probably has a long-term function. I image the PPMs will eventually be replaced by some more up to date PMs; but I am sure the Parry spirit will live on, nevertheless.

  • @oliverbriggs7356
    @oliverbriggs7356 11 місяців тому +1

    Woah, idc if its the smallest branch line, 4 times per hour is insane for where i live!

  • @norbitonflyer5625
    @norbitonflyer5625 11 місяців тому +1

    I think the Aldwych branch of the Piccadilly line was shorter, but that closed in 1994.

  • @AndrewofWare
    @AndrewofWare 11 місяців тому +5

    The Pisa to Pisa Airport branch is very short. It takes five minutes, including a stop at an intermediate station for the car park.

  • @lewis72
    @lewis72 11 місяців тому +7

    This must be prime candidate for HS3.
    - Easy win.

  • @felixw19
    @felixw19 11 місяців тому +8

    0.8 miles? I'm sorry but the Friedrichshafen Stadt to Friedrichshafen Hafen branchline in Germany is much shorter with just 800 meters

    • @martin.brandt
      @martin.brandt 11 місяців тому

      Does it really have 800 meters after forking off? That must include the platforms at either end.

    • @felixw19
      @felixw19 11 місяців тому

      @@martin.brandt yes, look it up

    • @flipmo9579
      @flipmo9579 11 місяців тому

      Yes it is​@@martin.brandt

  • @CoxallK
    @CoxallK 11 місяців тому +1

    Still makes me wonder how this survived the Beeching Axe considering many more important lines closed.

  • @iaingardener9268
    @iaingardener9268 11 місяців тому +1

    Perhaps my minds playing tricks with me but I’m sure in the old days there was a connection between the Seven Valley line that ran to Stourbridge Town?

  • @herbypumpkin1256
    @herbypumpkin1256 11 місяців тому +3

    I used to live opposite the Junction, and when I heard they were closing the line circa 1975, I made some late calls to Sir Stanley Yapp, Chairman of WMCC (If my memory serves me well.) He didn't take to me an ordinary person phoning him but he apparently found the money to keep the line open. Maybe I saved the line. Or maybe other considerations came into play. So thanks for the video reminding me that the line is flourishing. (PS I used it a lot and often got a ride with the driver up front in the old 'Bubble Car' Class 121 .)

  • @BurningJonas
    @BurningJonas 11 місяців тому +1

    Friedrichshafen Stadt to Friedrichshafen Hafen is probably about the same length or shorter.

  • @pizzaipinya2442
    @pizzaipinya2442 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm sorry but you're wrong on that one. In Spain we've got Ramal in Madrid's metro (1.1km), but if you don't consider this a branch line (it's a launcher like the Waterloo and City line more than a branch) there are still other options.
    L12 in Barcelona is a branch of L6, and, until the extend it (which I assure you won't happen before 2040 xd) it is only 600m long!!!
    Still, the video was really interesting, good job :)

    • @chriswithhiscamera2454
      @chriswithhiscamera2454  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for letting me know about these two lines in Spain ,which I will investigate. I'm pleased you found the video interesting

  • @Ro99
    @Ro99 11 місяців тому +1

    Cute little people mover and actually not bad frequencies

  • @tobiasjenkins2427
    @tobiasjenkins2427 11 місяців тому +1

    This will be part of tram network soon

    • @chriswithhiscamera2454
      @chriswithhiscamera2454  11 місяців тому

      It is a possibility. I have heard that the freight line between Stourbridge Junction and Brierley Hill could be be used for passengers again using a train similar to the Class 139, perhaps connecting with the tram extension to Merry Hill

  • @FormallyknownasE100
    @FormallyknownasE100 11 місяців тому +1

    Wrexham General and Wrexham Central must be shorter?

  • @makro-hesse8571
    @makro-hesse8571 11 місяців тому

    Well, there is a branch line in southern Germany, from Friedrichshafen Stadt to Friedrichshafen Hafen. This Link between the Harbour and the Train station is double-tracked and only 792 meters long

    • @danielrodding8522
      @danielrodding8522 11 місяців тому

      Correct, but usually the passenger trains on that branch line continue their ride on the main line beyond Friedrichshagen Stadt. The one shown in the video is being operated as a two-station-only line all the time.

  • @chrisgironde6669
    @chrisgironde6669 11 місяців тому +8

    There’s a lot of places that could do with little branch lines like this

  • @robinhillyard6187
    @robinhillyard6187 11 місяців тому

    Perhaps I wasn't paying attention but I don't recall you mentioning the length of Europe's shortest branch line--and I don't see it in the notes either.

  • @andrewbutler6477
    @andrewbutler6477 11 місяців тому

    Another is the Cardiff queen street to the bay may be even shorter !!

    • @tsl56
      @tsl56 10 місяців тому +1

      I doubt it is much shorter, as they are currently in the process of adding an intermediate station at Loudon Square, and an additional platform at the terminus. I believe it will be tram-trains eventually.

  • @johnfry1011
    @johnfry1011 10 місяців тому

    Hope you managed to say hello to the customer meet and greet agent, also known as George the Stourbridge Junction Cat (who has his own Twitter/X profile).

  • @lordmuntague
    @lordmuntague 11 місяців тому +2

    I would guess that a close challenger for this title could be the link between Wrexham General and Wrexham Central. Can't find a confirmed distance but it barely takes a minute or so between them, on the Wrexham to Bidston line.

  • @chuckmaddison2924
    @chuckmaddison2924 11 місяців тому

    Thought it was Harrods at Christmas.

  • @eaglesfly5236
    @eaglesfly5236 9 місяців тому

    Hope you dropped in to say hi to George The Stourbridge Station Cat in town.

  • @highdownmartin
    @highdownmartin 11 місяців тому

    I wouldn’t like a days work on that shuttle! Repetitive work alright

  • @paulc5453
    @paulc5453 11 місяців тому

    have travelled this line, sadly no McDonalds in town!

  • @flipmo9579
    @flipmo9579 11 місяців тому

    Friedrichshafen Hafen to Friedrichshafen stadt in germany is way shorter at 800m

  • @Fchops11
    @Fchops11 11 місяців тому

    I live there and the branchline is such cutr

  • @pacificostudios
    @pacificostudios 11 місяців тому +5

    Are you sure the shortest branchline isn't the track that goes from Italy to Vatican City? Although, maybe it doesn't count because the branch doesn't offer regular passenger service.

    • @chriswithhiscamera2454
      @chriswithhiscamera2454  11 місяців тому +3

      I will look at the Vatican City line but believe it doesn't have a regular passenger service, as you suggested

  • @juliaperry2812
    @juliaperry2812 9 місяців тому

    you should have gone down to the ticket office at the junction and met george the station cat,

  • @Bungle2010
    @Bungle2010 11 місяців тому +5

    Didn't you get to meet George?

    • @chriswithhiscamera2454
      @chriswithhiscamera2454  11 місяців тому +2

      I didn't spot George while I was at Stourbridge Junction as I did want to see him

    • @Bungle2010
      @Bungle2010 11 місяців тому

      @@chriswithhiscamera2454 😥

  • @lionelmarytravels6003
    @lionelmarytravels6003 11 місяців тому

    I've never seen or heard of that class of loco before. But it's smart and performs an important service. Long may it continue.

  • @send2gl
    @send2gl 11 місяців тому

    A staffed ticket office 🤔

  • @BBVE1
    @BBVE1 11 місяців тому

    its just like the Waterloo & City 😂

  • @passaggioalivello
    @passaggioalivello 11 місяців тому

    I love this short line. In Milan there is MeLA, it's 682 meters, but it's more like an elevated urban train, I guess it doesn't count.

  • @harrierjames7727
    @harrierjames7727 11 місяців тому +1

    Viva the Parry People Mover

  • @louiseogden1296
    @louiseogden1296 11 місяців тому +1

    Home of an ex of mine

  • @davidbull7210
    @davidbull7210 11 місяців тому

    What other country than the UK would contain the smallest of anything? 😂

  • @oldtechnobodycaresabout
    @oldtechnobodycaresabout 11 місяців тому +1

    Wrexham general to central is shorter

    • @grahamsmith9541
      @grahamsmith9541 11 місяців тому

      Not a branch line trains run to other destinations.

  • @andrews0208
    @andrews0208 10 місяців тому

    Uk shortest line not Europe we no longer in Europe

  • @markjosephbudgieridgard
    @markjosephbudgieridgard 10 місяців тому

    Omg can you believe anyone would use this service unless they have some serious disability?.... Just walk it's good for your health... And I practice what a preach.... I catch a bus daily.... Destination chesterfield, Derbyshire... But what do I do? I get off the bus 6 mile from my destination and walk the 6 mile into town racking up 30mile + over 5 days if more people followed my example the NHS would not be under so much pressure treating obese people... Any reasonably fit person who uses this ridiculous branch line should be ashamed of themselves 😮

  • @interestedidiot1886
    @interestedidiot1886 11 місяців тому +2

    I don't quite get it. Is England part of Europe? AFAIK, a few years ago, Britain voted to no longer be part of Europe. That makes this video very, very incorrect. There must be a shortest branch line in Europe but it is most definitely NOT in England.

    • @johnevans2044
      @johnevans2044 11 місяців тому +6

      Britain voted to no longer be part of the "European Union" - a political/trading entity. "Europe" is a physical geographical region of the world; the islands of Great Britain and Ireland are part of it. England is a political entity on the island of Great Britain and is therefore physically in Europe. But lazy politicians and journalists use the term "Europe" to mean "European Union" - this is what causes the confusion. So England remains in Europe but is no longer part of the European Union. And it's therefore perfectly valid to ponder the question of whether this branch line is (geographically) the shortest in Europe.
      Unless a new tectonic plate boundary opens up between Great Britain and the Continent and that plate drifts way westwards, Great Britain will remain part of Europe for a good few million more years, long after the political entities called England and the UK have been replaced by something else.
      BTW Iceland , which straddles the North Atlantic rift dividing two tectonic plates (the cause of its existence and its volcanism) is geographically considered to be part of Europe and not part of North America (and it isn't in the European Union either).

    • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
      @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 11 місяців тому +1

      Your handle checks out. England didn't vote to leave Europe, it voted to leave the European Union. Europe is a geographical continent, and the UK is very much still a European country

    • @tsl56
      @tsl56 10 місяців тому

      ​​@@johnevans2044 And to think that the tory rag, the Daily Express is now all incensed because it backed Brexit and now those rotters in the EC forgot to include the UK in its fast rail network plans. Also conveniently ignoring the fact that the EC completed those projects it made a commitment to in advance of Brexit. There was a time when we used to hear endless talk about the looney left, but since we haven't really had much other than right wing governments for decades (including Blair), I think we are now perfectly entitled to talk about the reactionary right. And the UK media are as dreadful as ever.