I love the fact that this channel is full of SP videos. It’s frustrating when I go to a channel & the videos I’m looking for are scattered all over for the equipment I’m learning. Some channels make a series but most don’t. I like that this channel is dominated by SP videos. Thanks
For the sx user it is easier to reverse the sample that you hear the bass drum as a „whoop“. Cut that of and reverse again. So you dont have to listen to longer loops till the end.
Nice video mate. Maybe this is helpfull: When you press "ROLL" when you're into the start/end screen it will play a small piece before your end marker. If you put "LOOP" on, you can easily hear if it is in time!
Great idea, this should work for anything your sampling in. I've always tried to rush my finger up to the record button, which is kind of awkward and not always a great loop. 🙌🙏
Don’t forget to use “roll” for the end point of your loops which previews the loop just before it reaches its end point to catch the up beat kick/sound for bar 2 to chop before.
Hi and thank you for your great channel! Here my 2 cents about looping: You don’t have to worry about the end point! Just nail the start point of your pad, and then trigger it at the first step of the pattern sequencer. Make the pattern as many bars as you want, no Gate and no Loop on the pad et voilà ! It’s the best way to perfectly sync several loops I think : taking advantage of the pattern sequencer clock. Maybe not obvious for everyone, so I hope this is helpul. Cheers!
I guess what could make things easier is to be able to set the lenght of a pad by bars. This would loop perfectly 2 bars for example. Without having to use a pattern. Or else to be able to launch different patterns at the same time. In a Ableton way, to launch clips in sync.
I guess what you could do to make it easier for looping samples is having another pad with a kick (or anything else) that's in the same mute group as the samples. Probably best to use a sound that has a slow attack that way it's easier to identify in the waveform. You could even use a "silence sample" instead of the kick, probably even better.
I still find that it is very difficult to cut clean loops that communicate with each other. I often have to go back to Abelton and prepare the loops there.Human sounding loops are ok but quantization in the sample area would be really appreciated. Anyway. Your channel is great!
ye perfectly looping samples that keep in sync, was possible on the older 404s and useful in the 99bars/40bmp workflow. just had a petty tedious workaround. u had to first chop samples in the same length approximately, del + mark, then check that their bpm is the same (ex 88). then trim one of them perfectly and and see how many number steps on the end/start function are needed to go to 89 (each time you hit the end/start u get 30steps right 30 left but you only do just a few and keep count) now you know how many steps are needed to get from 88 to 89 in ur main loop. go trim the other one the same lenght in steps. i have done it many times and it works. i suppose it works because of the limited resolution it has. i hope i didnt confuse you heh. maybe you find how to transfer this trick on the mkii.
this is my one and only complaint with this device so far! it’s so good at so many things but i find the lack of precision looping to be kind of a drag :/ i’m sure as i learn to work the 404 a bit better i may come up with some work around but for now it’s a bit of a bummer.
The stopping after recording a loop is really hard to take, instead of … looping. This tut was a actually great and the sample flip is sick, it’s just the SP itself. I’ve just realised this limitation in the device and it’s really annoying. Stopping after recording loops is insane 😂
yeah thats the way it is with the SPs really. There's little things that make it tricky for putting beats together. I use mine as and FX unit now and make the rest of the beat in a DAW
@@spvidz I see, I’m hoping to go dawless and I figure an SP would be a good device to loop drum breaks and a couple one-shots synced to my A4mk2 synth. The alternative is an Octatrack but I don’t see why the SP wouldn’t work for some dawless sample looping, would you recommend it for this?
I’m gonna ask the question before finishing the video even tho it might be answered lol. I have a 4 bar drum loop which I have been trying to record onto a pattern but it never seems to record properly. In the pattern which I trigger the drum loop (which has loop active) once the pattern repeats itself the drum loop stop playing. And then comes back around when the pattern repeats. So strange. Wonder what’s going on?
That usually happens when the sample is slightly too long I think. I have the same happen when I try and run noise/texture underneath a beat. In the end I realised its just easier to have a pad on loop and then play the pattern over it. In terms of drums I'd suggest programming them in if you can instead. The sequencer can be a little temperamental
My only problem with this device after 3 days is the mark functionality being different. I'm praying it gets an option change in an update like the sub pad has options. Am I missing something because nobody else seems to be hurt about this? I was just personally able to mark up loops way faster on the sx than using the wave viewer. And it feels like for longer loops I'm listening over and over where with mark it's like 2 tries maybe 3. Other than that this thing feels like a dream
Yeah a few people have complained about this. Personally as soon as I moved to this device I started using the dials and the wave form editor instead so I've not had the headache of it!
I don't see anyone using midi on this device wuss good I wanna sequence this from my ASR 10 because it has a song mode can you trigger sounds on all banks?
u can trigger the first 11 sounds of the selected bank by using a tr-8 buttons over midi. so it is possible for any midi device to send the right messages but likely limited
how do you adjust the volume of samples on a pad? I find that my drums feel way too loud and I don't want to keep normalizing the sample to match it I'd rather bring the drums down a touch so everything isn't peaking once I bounce it into a DAW?
I use old school samplers. Can I play a sample back in different notes using a midi keyboard? Does that take alot of setup or pretty instant in a certain mode?
Not sure about that one sorry man I've never really used MIDI on the SP series. I imagine you can only trigger samples via midi but could be wrong with the latest release and it having Chromatic mode. Sorry I can't be more help on this one
Hey i'm new to this. Say my project is 93bpm and i sample a faster track. Do i need to figure out the bpm of that track before chopping it up ? Say i want to lower the pitch would that not also lower the bpm which would then make it out of sync ?
You can sync if you like or just make the chops work with the different time. It depends what genre you are sampling. You could also just match the drums to the tempo of the sample too....lots of options!
Hi I was messaged on insta for some help . However I guess you are busy . It be great if you have structured lesson for this . I am from mpc live 2 and I just got this device for effects mainly . Let me know if you planning to have a structured
I love the fact that this channel is full of SP videos. It’s frustrating when I go to a channel & the videos I’m looking for are scattered all over for the equipment I’m learning. Some channels make a series but most don’t. I like that this channel is dominated by SP videos. Thanks
For the sx user it is easier to reverse the sample that you hear the bass drum as a „whoop“. Cut that of and reverse again. So you dont have to listen to longer loops till the end.
Yes that was the tip! I should have actually said in the video that it was similar not the same. I kinda adapted it from that but thanks a lot!
mind blowing tip how did I not think of that damn
@@samjones3433 I rode about that some weeks before I sold my sx. Really helpful
Nice video mate. Maybe this is helpfull: When you press "ROLL" when you're into the start/end screen it will play a small piece before your end marker. If you put "LOOP" on, you can easily hear if it is in time!
Will have to try that, thanks!
@@spvidz no problem it’s a life saver and definitely sped up my workflow.
Super helpful. I'm just scratching on the surface but it's so much fun.
Great idea, this should work for anything your sampling in. I've always tried to rush my finger up to the record button, which is kind of awkward and not always a great loop. 🙌🙏
With the new update I believe this isn’t necessary anymore. And you can use Roll to play a part of the end so you don’t have to play the whole sample.
Thanks man! Yeah I need to look into the new update. I've got a bit behind after the christmas break!
Don’t forget to use “roll” for the end point of your loops which previews the loop just before it reaches its end point to catch the up beat kick/sound for bar 2 to chop before.
Hi and thank you for your great channel! Here my 2 cents about looping:
You don’t have to worry about the end point! Just nail the start point of your pad, and then trigger it at the first step of the pattern sequencer. Make the pattern as many bars as you want, no Gate and no Loop on the pad et voilà !
It’s the best way to perfectly sync several loops I think : taking advantage of the pattern sequencer clock.
Maybe not obvious for everyone, so I hope this is helpul. Cheers!
Thats a great idea, thanks for that!
I guess what could make things easier is to be able to set the lenght of a pad by bars. This would loop perfectly 2 bars for example.
Without having to use a pattern. Or else to be able to launch different patterns at the same time. In a Ableton way, to launch clips in sync.
I guess what you could do to make it easier for looping samples is having another pad with a kick (or anything else) that's in the same mute group as the samples. Probably best to use a sound that has a slow attack that way it's easier to identify in the waveform. You could even use a "silence sample" instead of the kick, probably even better.
Smart!!!
Thank you sir! Another helpful video. Keep trucking bro.
I still find that it is very difficult to cut clean loops that communicate with each other. I often have to go back to Abelton and prepare the loops there.Human sounding loops are ok but quantization in the sample area would be really appreciated. Anyway. Your channel is great!
You can do metronome now which can definitely help. Quantise would be very useful though!
ye perfectly looping samples that keep in sync, was possible on the older 404s and useful in the 99bars/40bmp workflow. just had a petty tedious workaround. u had to first chop samples in the same length approximately, del + mark, then check that their bpm is the same (ex 88). then trim one of them perfectly and and see how many number steps on the end/start function are needed to go to 89 (each time you hit the end/start u get 30steps right 30 left but you only do just a few and keep count) now you know how many steps are needed to get from 88 to 89 in ur main loop. go trim the other one the same lenght in steps. i have done it many times and it works. i suppose it works because of the limited resolution it has. i hope i didnt confuse you heh. maybe you find how to transfer this trick on the mkii.
this is my one and only complaint with this device so far! it’s so good at so many things but i find the lack of precision looping to be kind of a drag :/ i’m sure as i learn to work the 404 a bit better i may come up with some work around but for now it’s a bit of a bummer.
Studio lookin fresh. 🤌
Keep up giving us great content!
Amazing stuff, thanks for sharing this!!!
The stopping after recording a loop is really hard to take, instead of … looping.
This tut was a actually great and the sample flip is sick, it’s just the SP itself. I’ve just realised this limitation in the device and it’s really annoying. Stopping after recording loops is insane 😂
yeah thats the way it is with the SPs really. There's little things that make it tricky for putting beats together. I use mine as and FX unit now and make the rest of the beat in a DAW
@@spvidz I see, I’m hoping to go dawless and I figure an SP would be a good device to loop drum breaks and a couple one-shots synced to my A4mk2 synth. The alternative is an Octatrack but I don’t see why the SP wouldn’t work for some dawless sample looping, would you recommend it for this?
great video and technique! I can't wait to get mine!
I just received my SP MK2 this week, honestly need help on a good tutorial to start making beats and sequences
Great Tipp!
You’re a life saver homie, where’d you get the skin from?
Its my custom skin but its sold out now unfortunately!
If at least one day this machine will become widely available....
Hopefully man!
SPVIDZ!!
Chillin.
Great video but still waiting for mine to arrived. Ordered early Nov and still no sign of it!
damn it sucks they are taking so long
Is there a way when playing back patterns to allow the audio tail of one to continue into the next pattern?
Found it on this same channel in the video "5 SP404-MK2 Pattern tips for easier beat making!", chapter 3
can you go over the new update features, Roland isn't doing it.
Thank you for the great tutorial. I have a question, i have a wav files which i want to program on buttons and play in loop - how to do that ?
Just import them using your SD card then set them to loop and they will loop seamlessly
I’m gonna ask the question before finishing the video even tho it might be answered lol. I have a 4 bar drum loop which I have been trying to record onto a pattern but it never seems to record properly. In the pattern which I trigger the drum loop (which has loop active) once the pattern repeats itself the drum loop stop playing. And then comes back around when the pattern repeats. So strange. Wonder what’s going on?
That usually happens when the sample is slightly too long I think. I have the same happen when I try and run noise/texture underneath a beat. In the end I realised its just easier to have a pad on loop and then play the pattern over it. In terms of drums I'd suggest programming them in if you can instead. The sequencer can be a little temperamental
@@spvidz ok cool thanks for the feedback 🙌🏾
My only problem with this device after 3 days is the mark functionality being different. I'm praying it gets an option change in an update like the sub pad has options. Am I missing something because nobody else seems to be hurt about this? I was just personally able to mark up loops way faster on the sx than using the wave viewer. And it feels like for longer loops I'm listening over and over where with mark it's like 2 tries maybe 3.
Other than that this thing feels like a dream
Yeah a few people have complained about this. Personally as soon as I moved to this device I started using the dials and the wave form editor instead so I've not had the headache of it!
I don't see anyone using midi on this device wuss good I wanna sequence this from my ASR 10 because it has a song mode can you trigger sounds on all banks?
u can trigger the first 11 sounds of the selected bank by using a tr-8 buttons over midi.
so it is possible for any midi device to send the right messages but likely limited
What skin is that? Looks dope!
It’s from Crema caffe. Check them out on Instagram 👍
how do you adjust the volume of samples on a pad? I find that my drums feel way too loud and I don't want to keep normalizing the sample to match it I'd rather bring the drums down a touch so everything isn't peaking once I bounce it into a DAW?
On the mk2? Hit the pad > hit pitch/speed and use the far right dial which is ‘volume’
@@spvidz Thanks for your response!
What phone are you using? Dope shit btw
thanks bro, its the iPhone 13 pro
I use old school samplers. Can I play a sample back in different notes using a midi keyboard? Does that take alot of setup or pretty instant in a certain mode?
Not sure about that one sorry man I've never really used MIDI on the SP series. I imagine you can only trigger samples via midi but could be wrong with the latest release and it having Chromatic mode. Sorry I can't be more help on this one
Hey i'm new to this. Say my project is 93bpm and i sample a faster track. Do i need to figure out the bpm of that track before chopping it up ? Say i want to lower the pitch would that not also lower the bpm which would then make it out of sync ?
You can sync if you like or just make the chops work with the different time. It depends what genre you are sampling. You could also just match the drums to the tempo of the sample too....lots of options!
Thought about replaceing the right upper poti to a step poti. For better adjusting the fx. But, not 100% sure about it..🤷♂️
As long as you are not planning on using it live as I can imagine that would be quite limiting
@@spvidz maybe there are poties witch can do both via push. I will looking for it..
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Are you going to do a video for the 1.14 update?
I need to check where I'm up to with the updates. I'm a bit lost after the break over Christmas. I'll look into it
try pushing the roll button , it plays the last few bars pre end point
Still waiting on my SP to come in the mail 😭😭
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Channel name: SpAce
Ooh thanks, I'll add that to the suggestions list!
It’s been so long i’m considering canceling my order lol
man that sucks, its bad to see these units taking so long to ship I don't understand it
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Hi I was messaged on insta for some help . However I guess you are busy .
It be great if you have structured lesson for this . I am from mpc live 2 and I just got this device for effects mainly . Let me know if you planning to have a structured
Yeah its not easy trying to answer everyone's questions sorry
How are you finding the mpc and so combo so far? I've got an MPC one and wanna get a MK2 to pair with it as well
can it not just stop recording at the end of chosen amount of bars and bpm?
Not that I'm aware of no - unless you use the pattern mode instead
should have quantisation features
just keep the name d
do what you want 2
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