Why is Your Freezer Frosting & Fridge Freezing
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2019
- Roger has some problems with his Haier fridge. The freezer is frosting up and the fridge is freezing over. He has a solution and it's not cheap sadly.
Refrigerator repair is very hit and miss and the engineers are far too quick to replace random parts, so Roger has some very good fridge troubleshooting advice, which is to buy a decent twin cooling fridge in the first place!
#FridgeFreezer #TwinCooling #Frozen
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Great video as usual Roger, thanks for taking the time to share. good luck with the new one, I hope it works perfect for many years. All the best mate..
Never thought id enjoy a fridge video so much! Great stuff again Roger.
Me too 😌
Thank you, only video I found to explain how the side by side fridge really works. Well explained with knowledge: "borrows the cold from the freezer".
Thank you Roger for your most common sense explanation of why the fridge and freezer can impact each other. NJ. USA
Misleading title there Roger, should be titled "I don't know why my fridge freezer isn't working so I'm buying a new one".
PMSL
Ikr guy had me thinking he was gonna fix the Damm fridge.
Lol yup I wasted my time here
Yes you wasted your time because you failed to understand the problem is not something you can fix but something you can only avoid by buying a fridge that doesn't have this design fault.
I went back and check the title, he hit the nail right on the head, he explained it according to the title.
This episode together with the others is much appreciated
Thank you Roger. Fantastic sharing. I was having a over freezing freezer on my 13 year old Sharp refridgerator.
Well, that was much more interesting than I expected!
Absolutely amazing analysis and description. Really appreciated.
Stakker where are you? We miss your 'First' and your wisdom.
This was the most simple and easy to understand video of how these things work and how they can fail. Thank you from Oz.
Roger is a crafty devil, creating this whole story for an opportunity for extra product placement. Im sure Captain Birdseye, Findus and McCain will look after him lol
The endorsement message is "Eat this and you will end up like me" hardly a good advert.
no Findus will give him a copyright strike ! PMSL
@@SkillBuilder you put yourself down. you're a good looking bloke according to my dog....
"So he throws a new part in here, then comes back and throws a new part in there". Rectification by trial and error is the hallmark of a head scratching "I dont know what the trouble is really"!
I wish I had such a well stocked fridge.
Cheers Roger, i knew the borrowing type system was what is coursing all the problems but i had no idea there was twin cooling systems.. il be looking into that. Thanks alot.
Excellent video Roger
THank you!
We have exactly the same problem, engineer was never able to fix it.
Tks again.
coz like 90% of them, he isn't an engineer; he's merely a fitter. He knows next to nothing about the technology and design considerations so is unable to do fault finding/tracing as a real engineer would be able to do.
The title 'engineer' is waaaaaay overused; seems to apply to anyone weilding a screwdriver during their day job.
Seems like many modern appliances (and cars!) are all about gadgets and fancy looks rather than robustness, solid performance over time and ease of repair.
I always think of the Numatic Henry vs Dyson vacuum argument. The Numatic is such a simple, but incredibly effective design at an excellent price point.
EU regulations demanding better energy efficiency is the biggest reason for problems like this. Better energy efficiency usually requires added complexity.
I've found that overloading/filling up your fridge, creates a restricted air flow, hence a delayed and or inconsistent temp through out your fridge, sensors over compensating, thus erratic cooling and performance ... answer ! Dont be greedy 👍
Surely being greedy is emptying your fridge not filling it.
😄😄😄😄👍👍👍👍
I recall 25 plus years ago being told those fake usa style fridges are crap , due to all the reasons you stated .the engineer said they need two pumps but only fit one for cost cutting, again what you said. Cheers Rodger
My 1971 frost free still working fine. No mechanical motor to move air from freezer to refrigerator. (Whirlpool brand USA) 2023 now.
These newer models are Over Engineered.
omg this video is brilliant my f/freezer is 3yrs old and i thought same thing dont want to just buy and have same thing happen. never heard of twin cooling before just order two separate appliances
Thanks a bunch for this info... just what I needed to know - cool!
Interesting, thanks for your insight Roger.Cheers
a classic example of money saving tech.. sharing the cold air and having to make something else to stop it malfunctioning. Freezers Icing up is a problem all over the internet as I have found in my own searches. Thanks
good too know! never knew how they worked!
Roger, I have a Logic fridge freezer small size. I have it set on it's lowest temperature it freezes all my veg and other food contents. I'm at the point now I believe the thermostat is probably faulty. I've had the fridge more than two years what should I do?
Defrosted at least several times same problem.
My inverter samsung fridge/freezer is brill had it years now
Had no idea there was twin cooling. My 7 year old Frigidaire runs too cold. Now I know why. Thanks
5:30 look for twin cooling to prevent one legacy reason for your fridge getting too hot or cold.
I have a Hotpoint fridge freezer that uses a similar idea of borrowing the cold. I bought it in 1995 and it is still working without a single problem all these years. Just goes to show, sometimes you get unlucky things just go wrong.
'Happy wife , happy life'.
If only
MGTOW
Happy spouse happy house
Hi Roger we have the exact same fridge freezer that you have sorry had and we have had it 3years and no problems,and her indoors rams it with every thing,but if it does go we will get a twin cool 👍
Anthony
That makes me feel like a victim. I wouldn't mind if the guy had fixed it but he never did.
Thanks for this, I didn’t know any of that. An integrated fridge freezer I fitted in a kitchen kept frosting up one. I called technical support and they said I needed to give the gaskets a warm water massage! I shit you not, I had to ‘massage’ the seals. Needless to say it made no difference and the unit went back
🤣 love it! 🤣
The crazy things companies will say to try wriggle out of having to pay an engineer to come out or collect the product!
@@benchippy8039 and like Roger said keep changing multiple parts until warranty runs out!
Scandalous!
Thank you
I like your Lowry magnet!
My wife buys a magnet every time she goes to an art exhibition. That lot represents a big investment day out, lunch, drinks. The magnet is the cheap bit.
Just out of curiosity, I've got a cheap fridge freezer but with the freezer below. Similar problems to you, would it also be using a similar system?
Without a doubt, same old crap different brand
What's the name of that part that was replaced?
Thanks
I had a similar problem, check where the temp sensor is in the fridge and make sure nothing is too close to it, so that the air can flow to it.
Also, my samsung cool air fridgefreezer needs a 50mm air gap on both sides as it dissipates the heat through the sides and not the back.
Your fridge looked as though it was tight on both sides. Nice video Roger.👍👍
Look forward in 2 years time for your next fridge failure video Roger...see yaaaah
I am not wishing to tempt fate but the new one seems to be in a different league
@@SkillBuilder I bet my mortgage dear Roger that it will be exactly down the same road again and honestly i do not really want neither to tempt fate or taking the piss by saying that...Now go ahead and ask me why i am that sure and confident about that.....
@@dkaloupis75 why?
@@SkillBuilder Let me tell you a story my son (😅i am 15 years ish younger than you) of the once upon a time in 1 single line. Consumers and mass production makes sales$ in order to make money with new delicate models with tablets and futures and not the 50 years old fridge that needs a capacitor every 20years. Are you with me my son?
@@SkillBuilder Roger i want to have a picture with you boss. You look like my uncle in Greece and no he is not a skill builder....copy paste you or him...hard to tell who is who...
I had this exact problem with a Hisense caused by the drain on the auto de-ice on the heat exchanger (freezer) being blocked! The heat exchanger was seriously frozen up because moisture couldn't escape causing the components to ice up in turn.
We had similar with an auto-deice freezer icing up after about 6 months (well known make, but can't recall it for sure now). Warranty engineer said we needed to deice it occasionally ... ?!?
I took the relevant section apart and found the drain hole was partially obstructed by some of the foam insulation - poor assembly. I trimmed it back so the hole was full-bore. It then ran for many years after with no problems, and I was happy to send it on to a charity shop when we revamped our kitchen with a built in freezer.
The moral of this story is not to cover the fridge freezer with many magnets.
Very useful indeed. I live in China currently and I have rented a flat. The fridge provided is so bad that the freezer even freezes the fan inside the fridge 😂😂😂😂 hence, the fridge isn’t working at all and it’s so humid. I ask the landlord to change it but he always repairs it. It has become such a big problem
Hope u get it sorted I hav similar problem in England
I have a 30 year old side by side maytag with the majik little cold air hole. Found out that the hole draft shutter would not allow enough cold air into fridge so I left it wide open . In your case open all the way and disconnect power connector. Then I adjust fridge thermostat to desired temperature for fridge. Had to get a 2 dollar thermostat for fridge and freezer to set it up .
Fridge is now perfect.
That is a great idea. I have got rid of the fridge now so a bit too late for me.
Good video, I have the same problems, but still you or your engineering friend did not gave any solution to the problem nor know say what's causing it. Except to change to a knew fridge. 😅😅. Now that anyone can tell u to do. Is there any real solutions to that problem?
X Roger, this older video appeared in my feed because I watched ‘my mate Vince’ on YT wrestling for over an hour trying to fix his fridge/freezer - the power of the algorithm. Vince was ultimately successful but had an interesting and painful journey that is way out of scope for most homeowners. After watching both videos (and being a ‘real engineer’ myself) I draw the following conclusions:
(1) There is nothing fundamentally wrong with the design of your old fridge/freezer.
(2) These appliances are very simple bits of kit but they have electrical, electronic and mechanical parts and they can and do go ‘wrong’.
(3) The ‘professional’ who came round to sort out your fridge freezer did not know what he was doing and did not have any diagnostic skills and was unable to work from first principles, but as you say throwing parts in out of desperation (and to get on to the next job asap).
(4) If you watch Vince - he starts off from a zero knowledge base and just perseveres until he gets to the bottom of it - he stumbles around, gets as confused as fuck sometimes - but gets there in the end. It is painful to watch.
(5) The biggest challenge for the homeowner is obviously understanding the principles and actually where the key components are located BUT much more important how to access them and remove the various covers without breaking any of the quite fragile plastic mouldings - beyond that knowing how to work safely and measuring continuity and resistance on a multi meter.
( 6). All design is a compromise, design choices may improve reliability or reduce it and while your refrigeration engineer recommended the twin evaporator design choice - from a reliability perspective it may not actually be more robust than the fan transfer design (reliability studies are a science in their own right).
(7). I think you got unlucky, a Friday afternoon production model colliding with a service tech who did not have a clue.
Great video Roger! Do the planet a favour though and don't scrap it when it still works;)
Hi
My kenwood fridge also builds up with ice although there was part replacement. Please tell me what is that device called the one that opens and closes. Thanks
Wind gate
Damper vent
I would of probably said fridge sensor because of the irratic temperature, but if you load your fridge up too much or keep opening the door how will the fridge temperature stay accurate 😉
All the magnets on the front are unbalancing your flux discombobulator.
For sure for sure, especially when the moon is in the first quarter and the wind is easterly at 10 knots.
@@albertkleyn111 🤣🤣
Any idea why my indesit ff (normal top bottom design) is freezing everything in the fridge section? thx
It is the same problem. Icing up of the flap
Gosh, I have never seen such a Heath Robinson system in all my life. 😳
Your sensor on the refrigerator side can be bad. That's why it gets colder then it's suppost to
What I would do is replace the flap with a toilet roll size plastic tube with a cut out on one half and rotate the tube on a quadrant gear off the motor, The flap is too flimsy
Why dont you take the flap between the fridge and freezer out completely and turn it into a double door freezer
Can it be fixed with the elements board 🤔
Of course, everything can be fixed with Elements board. You know it, I know it and all we have to do is tell the world.
what's an elements board?
@@DeepakKumar-lv4te come on dude
You must have some type of Consumer Affairs in the UK? Did you explore that avenue?
They are not going to get Haier to conceed that the technolgy is flawed. They send out the service engineer until the warranty runs out. The new fridge has a 10 year warranty.
@@SkillBuilder There is a fit for purpose law, it lasts for i think 6 years, but folks don't realise, though you do have to show it's the product at fault.
That aside I bought the curry's 5 yr warranty for my sister's fridge, they reckon they would replace it or put the cost price towards a new one if necessary.
thank you Robbert,
now we know that we must buy a new freeser, this is just the problem we have over 3 years now.
thank you a1000times.
germany sends greetings and subsribed.
you are the greatest😃
How much the price for fridge freezer.
That's interesting. I didn't know there were fridges that shared the evaporator. Having said that, we've had an American style Samsung for about 8 years and it's a nightmare - the defrosting system doesn't work properly so the evaporator and fan constantly get clogged with ice.
On top of that, the insulation in the cover over the evaporator is unsealed expanded polystyrene, which gets saturated with water, losing its insulating properties in the process making the problem even worse (or, more likely being the cause of the problem in the first place).
Utter junk. Next time, I'll go for a Bosch or Liebherr - saving a few hundred quid on something you plan to last years just isn't worth the hassle.
Oh, and another warning to folks thinking about buying one of these new style fridges that don't have the conventional flat heat exchanger on the back, but instead use a coiled-up hear exchanger with a fan is they are a nightmare to clean, as you can't get to most of it and so you need a compressor to blow the dust off, which is needed every six months as they are mounted at floor level with the fan constantly blowing all the muck over it.
I got a 16 year old Bosch that works as well as the day I got it, looks like a piece of scrap though lol
I got one frig freezer combine but the lower part of the freezer freezes to mutch
How to fix your fridge: buy a better one.
I know what's wrong with your fridge........it's not got enough cold beers in it😁😁. Trust me Rodger my fridge was always fine when it was full of beer👍👍👍🍺🍺🍺.
Thanks for the tip How did I miss that?
Named and shamed!
And so rightly so! I hope hairer watch this and compensate you substantially enough for the time and trouble this cooler bag has cost you.
You'll be alright with Samsung, i've never had one problem nor my wife from there phones, our washer is fantastic but still only a couple of years old (touch wood)
And our samy fridge must be nearly years old! And still working great! Were waiting on it to break then we will certainly look into buying another Samsung.
hi roger,looks like the fridge/freezer you have now is also samsung,what a crappy idea to use a port like system to cool both spaces,i've learned my lesson,some brands are super for tv's (samsung,lg),and others (aeg,liebherr,siemens and top notch,miele) are good for fridge/freezer,washing machines and dryers,after my metal brushed samsung machine gave up after two years,i bought a miele,expensive but reliable,and this machine uses the two compressor mode,but as it is a machine from 5 years ago,i have no no-frost
anyway,great vid roger
Problem with Miele though is their designs look like machines from the late 70s.
@@DPJOINERY yes,but at least they work correctly and have a fair lifespan,i would rather have something that works than something that looks good
@@ronnyb5890 very true, but i just think it's strange they look like old models, thinking about it maybe they do it for that particular era because of the age range they sell to, knowing most of us youngens🤣 who was born after the 80s can't afford Miele.
what's the flap board called ?
flippy Mcflipface
If you paid via credit card I’d ask for a refund, and if they dont issue you one speak to your credit card company, The Sale of Goods Act offers protection against faulty goods even when the manufacturer's guarantee has run out. The act says goods must last a reasonable time - and that can be anything up to six years from the date of purchase. Worth a look into pal
Too late it is gone.
Too many moving parts and too much focus on cost. The best fridge freezers are those with the freezer at the top. These effectively have twin evaporators and no air mixing. Only one extremely reliable moving part, the compressor. The whole lining of the freezer gets cold and the back of the fridge. Mine is Beko (so cheap) but will outlast these things with a thousand moving parts ten times over!
my fridge has more ice than me, thats how much drip my fridge has
Sir I always eat this foggy ice
Is it's bad for health?
It may not do you any harm but there are no positives benefits. It is essentially distilled water that has been frozen. It contains nothing to fight microbes and it is a mistake to think that microbes can't live in ice. That said there are plenty of more risky things out there.
@@SkillBuilder ok thank you so much sir for your kind reply 🙏🙏
I always eat it but my father scold me that it's harmful for your health bcz it's made from the gas of fridge😂
Three or so decades ago I had a refrigerator/freezer made in the former YUGOSLAVIA --
The brand being GORENJE ( pronounced GOREN YEAH - for those that have zero knowledge of foreign languages)
This refrigerator had two separate systems - and -- 2 compressors -
The idea of separate systems - for the Freezer and refrigerator is not new.
It is something that Western Manufacturers did do to maximize profits
by reducing manufacturing costs - and just keeping the engineering to 'satisfactory' rather than superb.
I put a small strip electrical tape on the vent coming from freezer and it worked.
lol nice done
And the moral is don’t buy a cheap shit fridge/freezer, and don’t buy a Samsung because they catch fire
Never been a fan of that type of fridge freezer. Waste of time and space. IMO.
Separate fridge/separate freezer and if one fails you don't have to pay double
i have one of them roger i got rid off her o the peace and quite fridge is still f though
I’ve been advised by people in the appliance repair business that parts for both Samsung and LG appliances are near impossible to get if yours is more than 5-6 years old.
Hi
And what was the cause of the problem?
jamming, it didn't like the bump fire.
2 years old - Haier that's a disgrace.
China?
But how can you fix a freezer
give it to an Eskimo
My new fridge will be magnet and kids school picture proof
Ha! we love a bit of grumps. When one of your kids or grand kids becomes the next Damien Hurst or whoever and those pictures are fetching a million quid a go you will regret the fact that you were such a philistine.
@@SkillBuilder but i will have a good clean fridge 😉
Sounds like a sales video for new refrigerators. You're making a bad decision buying those new ones. You'll have a lot more problems than you think and you'll wish you would've kept that side x side refrigerator. Good luck!
Thanks for your doom and gloom, the fridge is working perfectly. I love it so that is cool
You won't go wrong with a Samsung Roger... They're in a league of their own. Up to Japanese standards and more in some respects. Had one for some years now, and its been moved around when I've done kitchen improvements and all sorts. No problems... Same with their washing machines.
Samsungs are trash
Well maybe you had a bad one... it happens... 😂
You could just buy a separate fridge and freezer like normal folk.
Normal folk? Who are they, where do they live?
@@SkillBuilder They normally live in houses lol. but seriously for a moment, a twin cooler unit has the same amount of working parts as two separate units. But has the disadvantage of being tied together, so one side dies and you end up replacing the whole unit, where if you have separates you can get matching units and if one dies you just replace one. you can even get double high fridges and freezers. Of course it spoils the ' american fridge' look a bit.
@@billystead4598 Only the one compressor needed in a twin system
@@peepiepo you're right, i didn't differentiate between twin cooling and twin compressor, my bad.
No need to keep your eggs in the fridge, Roger.
Tell my wife, I wouldn't dare.
Where's the 🍺🍺🍺🍺's
I am English I prefer my beer at room temperature. Cooling beer kills the flavour and that is a scientific fact
You get what you pay for with refrigeration, the cheap fridges use unbranded Chinese compressors and electrics that generally last long enough to go just out of warranty and I would never buy a fridge with a plastic back plate 🔥
He looks like gordon ramsay
What the hell is a quid
Now come on fella we know you are joking with us. A quid is a squid without the 's'
@@SkillBuilder ah yes
If it fails out of the wrapper, get a replacement. Letting an engineer come within a week of purchase - especially more than once - is being very generous to the shop. After that, a refund is in order.
By the way, a bowl of salt in the bottom of the fridge can completely clear odour.
or a sliced onion in half
You can do a easy fix, but Samsung and don’t be tight!
This is an advertisement not a fix.
Nobody paid for this, it is merely pointing out a design fault
Refrigerators Do not make cold air. comment please
Samsung never let me down either
Avanti RM413655
I’d just love to be s service engineer coming to your house Roger,!!! NOT!!
Worst nightmare for some newbie coming in your house suggesting what was wrong?
Just go and join the foreign legion newbie engineer.
Yer FUCKED!!! END!
buy cheep buy twice.
Acting up? We don’t know what a Quid is???
A quid is a squid that has lost its s